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openstackgerritAlexandra Settle proposed openstack/governance master: Add a "docs:install-guide-verified" tag  https://review.openstack.org/44553609:56
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openstackgerritJens Rosenboom proposed openstack/governance master: Add Chef OpenStack response to Pike community goals  https://review.openstack.org/43700610:09
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/governance master: [goals/pike] Response of the WSGI goals for I18n  https://review.openstack.org/44576611:35
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openstackgerritAlexandra Settle proposed openstack/governance master: Add a "docs:install-guide-verified" tag  https://review.openstack.org/44553612:47
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openstackgerritAlexandra Settle proposed openstack/governance master: Add a "docs:install-guide-verified" tag  https://review.openstack.org/44553613:38
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openstackgerritAlexandra Settle proposed openstack/governance master: Add a "docs:install-guide-verified" tag  https://review.openstack.org/44553613:41
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andreykurilindims: hi! Can you point me to releases team irc channel or the place where I can ask questions related to it?13:57
dimsandreykurilin : #openstack-release13:57
andreykurilinoh. thanks! (I put "s" to the end of channel name and found empty channel :))13:58
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dmsimarddhellmann, ttx: Is it possible to get an estimated release date for pike on https://releases.openstack.org/ ?14:00
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jrolldmsimard: https://releases.openstack.org/pike/schedule.html14:01
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jroll(via clicking "under development" in the pike row on that page you linked)14:01
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dmsimardjroll: yup, I just meant adding it to the actual table at the top14:05
dmsimardjroll: unless mistaken, it was usually there for prior releases14:06
jrollah14:06
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dmsimardwith a *planned* asterisk or something14:06
ttxdmsimard: I doubt that, we are very DRY14:06
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ttxdmsimard: maybe dhellmann knows some magic we can use to extract the date from the right file and show it on te index without requiring copy of information14:07
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mordredzaneb: when you do a stacks.get in heatclient on a stack by name, it will do a GET /stacks/{name} then a GET /stacks/{name}/{id} ... does the second GET do something important?14:43
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mordred(similar pattern if you do a get by id, it'll do GET /stacks/{id} then GET /stacks/{name}/{id})14:44
zanebmordred: unfortunately yes, the first one only does a lookup to get the ID and then redirects you to the actual URL14:44
zanebmordred: we'd like to fix it, but we don't want to do a v2 API and break the world :/14:45
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mordredzaneb: so the first one doesn't actually get stack content back then?14:46
zanebcorrect, it's just a redirect14:46
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mordredgotcha14:46
zanebif you already know both the name and the ID you can skip ahead14:46
dimsjaypipes : ping about the grpc gateway for etcd and os-lively14:47
mordredoh - so but since it's a redirect, from an end-user call perspective GET /stacks/{name} should wind up 'returning' the content that's actually the result of GET /stacks/{name}/{id} yeah? (as long as the http lib follows redirects)14:47
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zanebmordred: exactly14:48
dimsjaypipes : do you have some time to try an experiment with https://github.com/dims/etcd3-gateway ?  see if that works for you14:48
mordredcool. thanks!14:48
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zanebnp14:49
dimsjaypipes : kragniz came up with a brilliant idea as well, essentially custom backends in python-etcd3 itself (one for grpc and one for the /v3alpha api)14:49
dimsjaypipes : what do you think?14:49
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thervedims, It's unclear if there is much code sharing to be done that way14:51
dimstherve : which way?14:51
thervedims, Having different backends of the same lib14:51
mordredzaneb: also - thank you for _not_ doing a v2 api to "fix" this14:52
dimskragniz : ^14:52
* dims invoking kragniz :)14:52
kragniztherve: you get to use the same python api for both14:53
kragnizso switching between the two isn't a pain14:54
thervekragniz, Right that's pretty much it.14:54
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therveI guess that's fine if we want to maintain the compatibility long term14:55
therveBut it will also be annoying from dep management POV14:55
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jaypipesdims: good idea AFAICT14:58
jaypipesdims: though frankly, probably a better idea to just fix the grpc/async thing.14:58
dimsjaypipes : right, totally14:58
kragniztherve: I guess so14:59
dimsjaypipes : i did push a 0.0.2 of the etcdgw to pypi, so will try it against tooz14:59
kragnizI'd rather there was one good python client than two rather similar ones, though14:59
jaypipesagreed.15:00
jaypipesand I'm sure dims does too.15:00
therveThat's a fair point15:00
therveIt's mostly just annoying work, not a blocker :)15:00
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mordredsdague: do you know off the top of your head - should I expect devstack to have a single AZ named 'nova' in a default config?16:34
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sdaguemordred: yes... I'm pretty sure that is correct16:38
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sdaguemordred: that's a nova default if you never create azs16:38
sdagueit's not even a devstack thing16:38
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mordredsdague: ok. cool16:39
mordredsdague: (adding a functional test and that was my assumption, but thought I'd ask)16:39
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mordredzaneb: "stack_user_project_id" ... what does that mean?18:30
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mordredthe docs say "The project UUID of the stack user." - but users do not have projects - users are given roles on projects - so I'm wondering if I'm just overparsing the english or if there is a specific meaning or whatnot18:31
zanebmordred: so we create a user (the "stack user") for each stack, in a separate domain, that has permission to signal back to heat18:32
zanebform this point I'm making stuff up, but...18:32
zanebs/form/from/18:32
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zanebpresumably they need a role in some project, so there's one project in that domain that they get a role on18:33
mordredgotcha18:33
zaneband its id is the stack_user_project_id18:33
mordredor maybe you create a project in that domain too?18:33
zanebmaybe ;)18:33
mordrednod18:33
mordredso - the stack isn't created in that project, but the stack user might create notifications in that project or something *handwave*18:34
zanebyeah, it's not the stack's project18:34
mordredok. cool! I believe I understand as much as I need to for now :)18:34
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zanebmordred: gory details if you want 'em: http://hardysteven.blogspot.com/2014/04/heat-auth-model-updates-part-2-stack.html18:35
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* mordred has it open now for comfy bedtime reading18:35
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zaneb"We create a new "stack domain project" in the "heat" domain, if the stack contains any resources which require creation of a "stack domain user""18:36
zanebok, so each stack gets it's own project in that domain if it needs one18:36
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mordredcool18:40
mordredzaneb: oh - that's actually not bad at all18:41
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openstackgerritMichal Jastrzebski (inc0) proposed openstack/governance master: Apply for stable:follows-policy for Kolla  https://review.openstack.org/34645522:41
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