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| sumedh | hello devs, need your help! I'm trying to find a way to see if nova-api response can return utf-8 encoded strings instead of unicode for non-ascii entity names (e.g. instance name) - I tried to send the header "Accept: application/json;charset=UTF-8" but the response still contains unicode values | 02:46 |
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| sumedh | and please pardon me if this question should be asked in #openstack instead of here... | 02:48 |
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| clarkb | as client I think you need to set accept-charset | 02:57 |
| clarkb | charset is what the server sets to tell thr client what it did send | 02:57 |
| sumedh | @clarkb, excellent, will try this | 02:59 |
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| sumedh | @clarkb, I did try this : set 'Accept-Charset' header, but it doesn't change anything - response still contains unicode for the instance name | 03:35 |
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| dhellmann | sdague: what's the current state of the service catalog standardization work? I'm having trouble finding a list of service name conventions in google :-/ | 16:00 |
| dhellmann | I did find https://specs.openstack.org/openstack/openstack-specs/specs/service-catalog.html | 16:01 |
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| dhellmann | cdent, you're involved with the api wg, right? maybe you know ^^? | 16:02 |
| mordred | dhellmann: my understanding was the service _name_ was considered for removal/ignoring as part of standardized catalog stuff | 16:02 |
| mordred | dhellmann: since there is already service_type which should always be the well-known value | 16:03 |
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| dhellmann | is there a list of the service types documented somewhere? | 16:03 |
| cdent | dhellmann: we started work on a service type authority | 16:03 |
| cdent | but we never got too far on it | 16:03 |
| cdent | let me find some artifacts | 16:03 |
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| * mordred would welcome a service type authority | 16:03 | |
| dhellmann | cdent : thanks | 16:03 |
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| cdent | (it ended up being dropped in favor of more pressing concerns (the usual story) but it is still on my and others' list of hope to dos) | 16:04 |
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| mordred | dhellmann, cdent: fwiw, we have a tiny one in http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/os-client-config/tree/os_client_config/constructors.json | 16:04 |
| cdent | dhellmann: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/service-types-authority | 16:05 |
| dhellmann | cdent : hrm, ok. maybe we can find someone interested in reviving that work | 16:05 |
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| dhellmann | mordred : we need a de facto -> de jure convertor | 16:06 |
| mordred | dhellmann: I'd be happy to be involved in that - I have to ad-hoc it in my world in the absence of it existing | 16:06 |
| cdent | dhellmann: the api-wg had talked about taking it on, but when both elmiko and etoews and I all got distracted for a while it seemed like a bad idea | 16:06 |
| cdent | but we know have edleafe on board and I'm a bit more free to do more api-wg stuff, so housing there could work | 16:07 |
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| mordred | rosmaita: so - I was just working on implementing support for glance image pagination - and I experienced a "bug" | 16:07 |
| dhellmann | cdent : a bad idea for the api wg to own it, or to have one at all? | 16:08 |
| cdent | dhellmann: for api-wg to own it, because we didn't have free resources. We know do.Everyone (in that group) agrees it is a good idea. | 16:08 |
| dhellmann | cdent : ok, that's what I thought you meant but I wanted to be sure | 16:09 |
| mordred | rosmaita: I'm using version discovery to get the versioned endpoint and then setting that endpoint in the keystoneauth Adapter ... let's call the versioned endpoint https://image.example.com/v2 | 16:09 |
| mordred | rosmaita: but then the next link from glance is /v2/images/marker={uuid} | 16:09 |
| mordred | so if I do adapter.get(next) - it tries to do a get on https://image.example.com/v2/v2/images/marker={uuid} | 16:10 |
| mordred | rosmaita: now that I'm saying that in that sequence, it sort of sounds like a bug in keystoneauth adapter, actually | 16:10 |
| mordred | jamielennox|away: ^^ | 16:10 |
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| cdent | dhellmann: I'll stick it on next week's agenda | 16:12 |
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| sdague | dhellmann: yeh, it stalled out last spring once we hit the issue that we needed to actually figure out api docs | 16:16 |
| dhellmann | cdent : EmilienM will be interested in that discussion | 16:17 |
| dhellmann | sdague : overwhelmed by yaks? | 16:17 |
| sdague | well, when you realize you need a minimum of 4 basic things about a service | 16:17 |
| sdague | and one is their API docs by url | 16:18 |
| sdague | and we couldn't even get a consistant answer for that from the computer starter kit projects | 16:18 |
| dhellmann | yep | 16:18 |
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| sdague | but, that should be in a much better place now | 16:18 |
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| cdent | dhellmann: will bring him in | 16:20 |
| sdague | cdent: I can restart the initial patch series and figure out what we can all agree on | 16:20 |
| EmilienM | o/ | 16:20 |
| sdague | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/286089/4 is still hanging out there | 16:20 |
| cdent | dangling in the breeze | 16:20 |
| dhellmann | EmilienM : regarding service catalog standardization ^^ | 16:20 |
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| EmilienM | indeed, it reminds me this discussion about nova placement API port | 16:21 |
| dhellmann | EmilienM : yes, that's what triggered my question above | 16:21 |
| * cdent gives EmilienM a cookie, a hug, a small bottle of wine and a gift token for a back rub | 16:21 | |
| * dhellmann needs to go buy wine before he gets snowed in for the weekend | 16:22 | |
| * EmilienM takes the wine and runs | 16:22 | |
| cdent | i think fixing service types, service catalog, service ports is all of a piece | 16:23 |
| cdent | if I remember right service-types and sevice catalog, while related, were not dependent? | 16:23 |
| sdague | well service-types was standardizing the lookup in the catalog with known names | 16:25 |
| dhellmann | cdent: based on mordred's comment earlier about having this in os-client-config, I wonder if it would be useful to publish the standard as some sort of tiny library that could be used by os-client-config (and other projects) to validate names | 16:25 |
| mordred | dhellmann: ++ | 16:25 |
| dhellmann | wrap a little get() function around that yaml file or something, it doesn't have to be fancy | 16:26 |
| cdent | doesn't that have to mean that people follow the rules when populating their catalogs? I've understood that has presented a problem in the past? | 16:26 |
| mordred | I'd LOVE to be able to move that constructor list out of occ and in to the api-wg too - but I understand that may be specific to me | 16:27 |
| mordred | cdent: most of the time people are consistent with type (with a few exceptions) - however, if there is a known key, it makes it easy for someone to say "the service type for the compute service on this cloud is foo:compute" | 16:27 |
| dhellmann | cdent : yeah, we probably want to work with hogepodge, markvoelker, and the rest of the interop group on a path forward for addressing that | 16:28 |
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| mordred | rather than "there is a service called "foo:compute" that I want to use, and because it's called foo:compute nothing else knows what the heck it is | 16:28 |
| mordred | the only extant 'bad' service type in the wild I am aware of is rackspace trove which has a service type of rax:database since it pre-dates trove existing in openstack | 16:29 |
| mordred | everybody else who wants to be different tends to do it in serviceName | 16:29 |
| cdent | that's a relief | 16:29 |
| mordred | cdent: you can see in http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/os-client-config/tree/os_client_config/vendors/rackspace.json#n15 | 16:30 |
| dhellmann | mordred : could that rackspace example not be fixed by adding an extra entry to the catalog that does match the well-known-type? | 16:30 |
| mordred | cdent: we set: "database_service_type": "rax:database", | 16:30 |
| mordred | dhellmann: yes | 16:30 |
| dhellmann | mordred : ok, so if we can agree on a standard upstream then they can implement it downstream | 16:30 |
| mordred | where we're using the well known key "database" to identify what the key is in the cloud in question | 16:30 |
| * cdent nods | 16:30 | |
| mordred | dhellmann: ++ | 16:31 |
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| dhellmann | wfm, then, let's get this done | 16:31 |
| mordred | dhellmann: while we're on the topic of catalogs ... | 16:32 |
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| mordred | the second region bringup at dreamhost made me realize that nowhere had we documented "please make every region in your cloud have a unique regionName even if they have different auth_urls" | 16:32 |
| mordred | dhellmann: the issue in this case being that the second region had a different auth url since it was a different cloud, but the region name in both cloud was "regionOne" - making selection of a "region" on "dreamhost" very difficult | 16:33 |
| mordred | but I can't blame anybody, since we make that _really_ easy for people to do and have no docs to the contrary | 16:33 |
| dhellmann | mordred : have you mentioned that to cleverdevil? | 16:34 |
| mordred | (in fact, I'd really love it if we could get people to stop naming any regions of their cloud regionOne, but that's a whole other thing) | 16:34 |
| mordred | dhellmann: yah, I did | 16:34 |
| mordred | unfortunately, the cat was already out of the bag when I found it, and the old region was marked for removal anyway | 16:34 |
| * dhellmann tries to imagine where we would even document that | 16:34 | |
| mordred | dhellmann: I know - we need a place where we can say "hey, we know you can do anything, but please do the following" | 16:35 |
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| dhellmann | install guide? config guide? | 16:35 |
| persia | I would expect it to be part of the e.g. http://docs.openstack.org/project-deploy-guide/newton/ | 16:35 |
| mordred | dhellmann: the dreamhost solution was just to actually treat them as separate clouds, so in occ there is a vendor called 'dreamhost' and one called "dreamcompute" | 16:35 |
| dhellmann | yeah, I wondered about that when I set up my cloud.yaml for some ansible playbooks recently | 16:36 |
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| mordred | persia: but those are per-deployment method - we need a small top-level conceptual guide | 16:36 |
| dhellmann | I guess we assumed people would use meaningful region names | 16:36 |
| dhellmann | mordred : ++ | 16:36 |
| persia | mordred: Hrm. Indeed, and looking harder, there are also per-distro install guides, which some people might use as guides for new deployments. | 16:36 |
| persia | http://docs.openstack.org/arch-design/ ? | 16:37 |
| mordred | "if you have floating ips, make sure users have read access to the network object they come from, otherwise network discovery becomes difficult" | 16:37 |
| mordred | persia: yah. maybe there | 16:37 |
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| sdague | based on all the early research here, I think it probably comes down to actually putting in defcore tests for service catalog conformity | 16:42 |
| sdague | it's mostly not that people are intentionally doing weird things to make people's lives difficult, it's that we didn't provide people with basic validation on what we expect in the catalog | 16:43 |
| sdague | I think if we did, people would be happy to run that and conform in most cases | 16:43 |
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| mordred | sdague: I agree with that assessment | 16:53 |
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| tuanla_ | Morning openstack-dev | 16:54 |
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| markvoelker | mordred: sdague: dhellmann: YEah, my sense is nobody is super-religious about catalog key names and creating some tests around that would be both useful & unlikely to ruffle many feathers | 17:00 |
| markvoelker | Seems like a thing we could discuss a bit at the PTG | 17:01 |
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| dhellmann | markvoelker : ++ | 17:55 |
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| viks | hi it is regarding https://bugs.launchpad.net/cinder/+bug/1569554 . When I am submitting the patch for python-cinderclient, do I need to say "This is a follow up patch of <change_id>" in the git check-in comment or just upload the patch set with a different change ID? | 23:16 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1569554 in python-cinderclient "cinder snapshot listing does not work with metadata" [Wishlist,New] - Assigned to Vivek Agrawal (vivek-agrawal) | 23:16 |
| clarkb | viks: if you want to create a new change with new review history you change the change id. If you want to create a new patchset within an existing change with existing review history do not change the change id | 23:16 |
| clarkb | viks: the change id is what gerrit uses to tie multiple commits over time to a single change | 23:17 |
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| viks | clarkb: ok...thanks.. | 23:18 |
| viks | clarkb: I will put a new change ID. | 23:19 |
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| openstackgerrit | Anne Gentle proposed openstack/governance: Retire api-tools from Docs governance https://review.openstack.org/417535 | 23:28 |
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