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| dolphm | ttx: i'm reading your review on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/404361/ and wondering if you would distinguish your use of the term "controlled resource" as something distinct from my use of "cloud workload" in the current patchset? | 15:00 |
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| dolphm | ttx: i'm interpreting it as being slightly broader, in that a controlled resource might be a glance image, whereas an image is not really a "workload" | 15:01 |
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| ttx | dolphm: It might be broader yes... I'm not sure how to interpret "cloud workloads" in that sentence | 15:07 |
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| ttx | i.E. when do you start to consider your "cloud workload" to be "affected" ? I know cloud workloads that are specifically not affected by VMs being rebooted :) | 15:08 |
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| ttx | (which is why I prefer "controlled resource" terminology: I find it clearer than "data plane" or "cloud workload". But maybe with some examples any term can be made clear) | 15:10 |
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| dolphm | ttx: i'm primarily concerned about mass reboots, in that case, but i'd consider *some* workload to be affected whether one VM is unexpectedly rebooted or all of them | 15:11 |
| dolphm | (unexpectedly from the end user perspective) | 15:11 |
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| dolphm | ttx: i like that reasoning for controlled resource | 15:11 |
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| ttx | to me a VM being rebooted creates two separate issues -- availability and... modification? | 15:12 |
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| dolphm | ttx: so then, the amendment to the basic upgrade tag becomes just "The upgrade procedure does not result in any state changes to controlled resources." | 15:12 |
| ttx | right, and that catches the VM-reboot case | 15:12 |
| dolphm | ttx: right, you fail both if you have to reboot | 15:12 |
| ttx | without saying "not a single packet must be dropped" which is kind of a red herring | 15:13 |
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| ttx | We could add taht access to the controlled resource must be possible at all times, but that sounds like a higher requirement than the base one | 15:15 |
| ttx | and one that some of the current tag holders would fail | 15:15 |
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| dolphm | right, so i'm also drafting a subsequent tag, sort of as a parallel to zero-downtime upgrades | 15:18 |
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| dolphm | currently calling the tag supports-accessible-upgrades | 15:19 |
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| dolphm | but i'm leery of confusion | 15:19 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dolph Mathews proposed openstack/governance: Disallow downtime of controlled resources during upgrades https://review.openstack.org/404361 | 16:29 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dolph Mathews proposed openstack/governance: Generalize tag application processes https://review.openstack.org/410322 | 17:06 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dolph Mathews proposed openstack/governance: Remove tag application process for accessible upgrade https://review.openstack.org/410329 | 17:22 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dean Troyer proposed openstack/governance: Add Golang CTI (WIP) https://review.openstack.org/410355 | 18:39 |
| pghmt | Hi, i am having a problem with Devstack. I could launch horizon but can't see the images. | 18:39 |
| pghmt | In horizon log: File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/django/views/i18n.py", line 207, in get_javascript_catalog | 18:39 |
| pghmt | 2016-12-13 18:35:57.987284 path = os.path.join(os.path.dirname(upath(p.__file__)), 'locale') | 18:39 |
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| openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/governance: escape the PTL IRC nick to avoid rst rendering issues https://review.openstack.org/410371 | 19:42 |
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| portdirect | Hi I am trying to create an account on the wiki, but have been unable to do so, as I get the error: "OpenID error, An error occurred: an invalid token was found." | 21:55 |
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| clarkb | fungi: ^ we allow new users agin right? | 21:55 |
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| portdirect | this is regardless of the browser, computer or network I attempt to create the account from - and i need access as otherwise I am unable to to contibute to team meeting agendas | 21:56 |
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| clarkb | portdirect: ya fungi should know if there are any current gotchas with the wiki | 22:03 |
| clarkb | lets wait a minute and see if he can inform us | 22:03 |
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| portdirect | clarkb: cheers, thank you for pointing me in the right direction :) | 22:05 |
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| clarkb | for a time we had disabled new account creation because it was being abused to spam the wiki, we have since relaxed those rules I think but we continue to get spam so maybe the rules were put back in place or soemthing | 22:06 |
| clarkb | fungi has been doing much of the work though so should know | 22:06 |
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| fungi | clarkb: portdirect: sorry, i'd stepped away to get some dinner. yes as far as i know new account creation has been enabled since july | 22:51 |
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| fungi | i just double-checked the mediawiki settings on the production wiki.openstack.org server and they look like they should still be allowing new account creation | 22:56 |
| portdirect | fungi: cheers, we all need to eat! :) I've tried several times from several different devices since the Barcelona Summit without any luck, who would be the best person to contact to get this resolved? It is starting to affect by ability to effectily participate in work on kolla-kubernetes, as I'm having to use people to add items to the ajenda via proxy at the moment. | 22:56 |
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| portdirect | I'm not sure if its related, but I also notice that jQuery does not seem to be loading correctly on the "Log in / create account with OpenID" page and launchpad seems to be using "https://wiki.openstack.org/w" as the Serivce Provider URL, though these may just be cosmetic? | 23:00 |
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| clarkb | portdirect: there is a redirect from w/index.html to the openid provider (login.launchpad.net) | 23:06 |
| clarkb | er index.php? | 23:06 |
| clarkb | but that portion of the setup is expected/normal | 23:06 |
| clarkb | I am able to login so its not a general login issue | 23:06 |
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| portdirect | clarkb: fungi, For full context, I'm consistently getting from the "Log in / create account with OpenID" to "Personal Data Request" and then back to the wiki to select a username "Username and account choice", it it at the point of clicking "Log in / create account with OpenID" that the process fails. | 23:13 |
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| clarkb | portdirect: I wonder if there is a collision with an existing username? | 23:13 |
| clarkb | and its reporting that error poorly | 23:13 |
| portdirect | I've tried several different combinations so far without any luck | 23:14 |
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| fungi | portdirect: i can go hunting in the backend db to look for any evidence supporting clarkb's theory if you let me know what username you're using | 23:17 |
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| portdirect | fungi: cheers, my launchpad username is also portdirect | 23:18 |
| fungi | portdirect: cool, will take me a few to infer the db schema | 23:19 |
| portdirect | awesome cheers :) | 23:19 |
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| fungi | definitely no rows in the user table where user_name in ("Portdirect","portdirect") | 23:20 |
| fungi | do you also have a gerrit account on review.openstack.org? if so, i can use it to cross-reference the openid url | 23:20 |
| fungi | aha, yep, found one with username:portdirect in gerrit at least | 23:21 |
| portdirect | thas me o/ | 23:22 |
| portdirect | *thats | 23:22 |
| fungi | gerrit account created in late october | 23:22 |
| portdirect | yes | 23:22 |
| fungi | confirmed there's no row in the uoi_openid table for the wiki matching the openid url associated with your gerrit account | 23:25 |
| fungi | i'll check for collisions on your e-mail address too, comparing against the address used with your gerrit account | 23:26 |
| fungi | no match there either, so no evidence of any collision on username, e-mail address or any existing account corresponding to your launchpad sso openid | 23:27 |
| fungi | i'll see if i can get anything useful from the logs | 23:28 |
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| portdirect | fungi: dont know if it's relevant in any way, but if you are using the mediawiki OpenID extension, it would appear that it's the tests here (https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-OpenID/blob/5e01a5a05b63cd28634422458d757e7cf3142258/SpecialOpenID.body.php#L226-L229), that are potentially failing, as this is the only one that would produce the output I'm seeing. | 23:31 |
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| fungi | yeah, we are | 23:31 |
| fungi | from the apache logs it looks like mediawiki reports successfully getting your openid url reference to login.launchpad.net (i was able to identify it based on the openid we have recorded for you in gerrit's db) | 23:32 |
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| portdirect | whoops or here (more likely): https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-OpenID/blob/5e01a5a05b63cd28634422458d757e7cf3142258/SpecialOpenIDServer.body.php#L133-L136 | 23:36 |
| fungi | portdirect: out of curiosity, when did you first try to create an account? there was an outage for login.launchpad.net earlier in the day where it was presenting a month-expired ssl cert so i'm wondering if something from that timeframe could have gotten cached (client side? server side even?) | 23:37 |
| fungi | i'm going to try creating a throwaway lp sso account and logging into the wiki with it as a new user | 23:38 |
| portdirect | I first tried a few weeks ago, but assumed it was at my end then - tried a couple of days ago and then today from a couple of different devices | 23:40 |
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| fungi | portdirect: indeed, i'm getting the same behavior attempting to set up a new wiki account. OpenID error... An error occurred: an invalid token was found. | 23:46 |
| fungi | most perplexing | 23:47 |
| portdirect | whoop! for the first time ever its not just me :) thanks fungi, you made my day, I just hope I didn't ruin yours in the proccess! | 23:49 |
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| fungi | nah, we can almost certainly run this down just may take some time. we've had no end of issues with spammers/scammers creating accounts and vandalizing the service so are waging an ongoing war of escalation trying to make it harder for them to succeed | 23:55 |
| fungi | portdirect: disturbing detail, i see tons of spammers who have created accounts successfully with login.launchpad.net openids as recently as half an hour ago, so it seems to be working for someone :/ | 23:56 |
| portdirect | fungi, cheers for your help, now I know it's being triaged, I'll let you get on with it - no major rush, but if you could ping me when I should try again that really be appriciated :) | 23:58 |
| fungi | portdirect: i'll be happy to, and apologies for the inconvenience | 23:58 |
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| portdirect | np, I just really want an outlet for all these off brand meds I've got in the garage.... | 23:59 |
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