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dimszaitcev : hello, following up on the email thread "Embracing new languages in OpenStack", you realize that there's a bunch of things that can be done from all the etherpads and the todo lists from all the email discussions. And that the only lever that TC has right now is to allow a repo to be added to the governance or not. right?18:43
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dimszaitcev : which implies that one can work with infra, create repos, add jobs etc to show good faith and forward progress. dunno why that's not happening.18:44
dimscdent : ^18:45
cdentthanks dims. I think people frequently forget where these etherpads are and they are completely undiscoverable18:45
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zaitcevdims: I indicated there that it's possible that Swift in Go may be sharing more than could be possible historically in the old code. So my job is not cry how regressive everything is, but implement helpful code.18:46
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dimszaitcev : understood. did you get the concerns expressed by dhellmann? or do you still believe what you stated? "the talk about the community is mostly there to heal psychologically."18:48
dimszaitcev : i really don't want more people to spread that kind of stuff or think that way. it's not helpful at all18:49
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zaitcevdims: Sorry but I have no choice but to eyeroll hard at this point.18:50
dimszaitcev : sure, that's your prerogative18:50
kashyapcdent: Randomly chiminmg in, I agree, we've now arrived at "Etherpad Hell"18:51
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kashyap(While at it: my major kudos (understatement!) to mriedem for patiently writing up all Nova summaries from Summit to the list")18:52
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dimskashyap : notmyname pasted the link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/golang-infra-issues-to-solve18:52
kashyapIt captures almost everything one needs to know who's not present18:52
cdentkashyap: it's like we need a weekly etherpad index, ordered by whether we should care or not ;)18:52
cdentkashyap: yeah, totally on the summit write ups mriedem++18:53
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openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/governance: remove release team tags  https://review.openstack.org/39636018:59
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dimszaitcev : don't get me wrong, if you and ash do get going and need some help i will step up as well. an oslo.log may be a simpler thing to start than oslo.config. just a wrapper around glog. if we start there and set things up in the CI and do some of the stuff in the etherpad, we can show some momentum and progress (and then others will join)19:07
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zaitcevdims: there problem with log is that Swift typically has a ton of processes that are not children of the same one. It's difficult for them to write into the same file together. So Swift mostly uses syslog. For this reason I'm not sure how to go about incorporating a common log thingie.19:09
dimsah. makes sense19:09
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dimszaitcev : let's do this!19:14
zaitcevdims: I'll keep thinking about it and look at what Designate people have to offer19:15
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dimszaitcev : sounds good.19:16
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openstackgerritAlex Schultz proposed openstack/governance: Acknowledge remove-incubated-oslo-code for Puppet  https://review.openstack.org/39640521:31
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trevormcdoes anyone know how to use the item_type option from oslo_config.cfg.ListOpt? I can't seem to get it to do the conversion or validation on my list items...22:52
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