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| dtroyer | tonyb: in and out | 00:09 |
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| tonyb | dtroyer: I just wanted to check on the state of os-client-config and python-neutronclient. I've drpped a review comment on you release request | 00:10 |
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| dtroyer | I don't know the state of the neutornclient bits there, this is all for OSC. | 00:12 |
| dtroyer | But I've also worked around all of the brokenness in OSC itself anyway because I can't use anythign there until this release hits g-r | 00:12 |
| dtroyer | so eh, I just wanted to throw a stake in the sane | 00:12 |
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| dtroyer | mordred was working the neutron stuff there and probably knows a lot mre than I do about that | 00:14 |
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| mordred | tonyb: neutronclient should work with occ for reading clouds.yaml and responding to --os-cloud and friends ... | 00:15 |
| mordred | oh - wait - is this about getting a neutronclient release out with the occ fix? | 00:15 |
| dtroyer | mordred: the context is my release request for o-c-c 1.21.0 | 00:15 |
| dtroyer | so something like that, ya | 00:15 |
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| tonyb | mordred: Yeah you fix landed but post client release freeze IIUC | 00:16 |
| mordred | oh for the love of | 00:16 |
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| mordred | sigh | 00:16 |
| mordred | can we get an exception to that? | 00:16 |
| dtroyer | I thought client freeze was this week? | 00:17 |
| mordred | we're currently blocking occ releases from the gate | 00:17 |
| tonyb | mordred: I can't and wont speak for dhellmann but an exception may be a thing ... I dunno | 00:17 |
| mordred | because without that patch released neutronclient will break literally everything | 00:17 |
| tonyb | mordred: Yeah I get that, which is why I queried doign anothr release that'd just get ban hammer :( | 00:17 |
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| tonyb | mordred: Oh you're right neutron client this week. | 00:18 |
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| tonyb | occ is probably in the same boat | 00:18 |
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| mordred | armax: ^^ any plans for a neutronclient release? | 00:20 |
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| armax | mordred: we plan for one | 00:20 |
| armax | we’re wrapping up a few more changes | 00:21 |
| mordred | armax: woot! | 00:21 |
| mordred | tonyb: I'll do another requirements "block occ" patch real quick | 00:22 |
| mordred | tonyb: then we can lift it when neutronclient releases | 00:22 |
| armax | mordred: do you want to added for review when that happens? | 00:22 |
| mordred | armax: nah. I'll just be a fanboi on the side cheering you on | 00:23 |
| armax | mordred: nice! | 00:23 |
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| mordred | tonyb: https://review.openstack.org/362499 | 00:24 |
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| dhellmann | mordred , tonyb, armax : the client release freeze is Thursday of this week, so just do a release when ready. Multiple even, if that's useful. | 00:32 |
| armax | dhellmann: ack | 00:33 |
| dhellmann | mordred, tonyb, armax : and yes, if an exception is needed in a case like this we can do it. | 00:33 |
| dtroyer | dhellmann: so clarification, are osc-lib and os-client-config considered client libraries? | 00:33 |
| armax | I’ll sync up with hrachys in the morning | 00:33 |
| dhellmann | we'd want it to be a real need, and not just 'but we missed the deadline" | 00:33 |
| dhellmann | dtroyer : you and your edge cases. :-) I don't know what to call those things. Maybe clients? maybe not? | 00:34 |
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| dtroyer | I think client library fits it exactly, they are libraries consumed by other client libraries, clients and applications | 00:34 |
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| dtroyer | This is why branching osc-lib today caught me off guard | 00:34 |
| dhellmann | well, some of the clients use oslo libs (or used to) so... | 00:34 |
| dhellmann | ah | 00:35 |
| dhellmann | yeah, I assumed stevemar knew what he was talking about there | 00:35 |
| dtroyer | but these are exclusively client-side | 00:35 |
| dhellmann | ok | 00:35 |
| dhellmann | maybe we need a type tag to keep this straight, because it's no longer as easy as looking for the word "client" in the name | 00:36 |
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| dtroyer | I'll put some thinking to that | 00:36 |
| dhellmann | we have type:library so we just need type:library-client | 00:36 |
| dhellmann | then I can go update all of the tools that care about the type | 00:37 |
| dtroyer | to qualify for the tag, they are client-side only then, right? | 00:37 |
| dtroyer | that's the bit I want to think through with a fresh brain | 00:37 |
| dhellmann | that would rule out all of our existing python-fooclient libraries that are used inside of a service | 00:37 |
| dtroyer | some of oslo is used in clients too | 00:38 |
| dhellmann | ideally we'd just stop doing this and have all of the libraries freeze at the same time | 00:38 |
| dhellmann | I'm trying to remember why we didn't do that before | 00:38 |
| dhellmann | maybe ttx will know | 00:38 |
| dhellmann | but if we did that, we could freeze the requirements list a week ahead of feature freeze | 00:39 |
| dhellmann | maybe that's something to think about for ocata | 00:39 |
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| stevemar | dtroyer: dhellmann: yeah, that is very much my bad, i didn't see any interesting changes in osc-lib, and i figured the password prompt change was solved since it was in occ and osc. with that said, i overstepped :\ | 01:59 |
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| mdurrant | I've been looking at extending the LBaaSV2 protocols and lb methods for a while and keep hitting the same brick wall - those are validated in the API against a list of constants. Trying to avoid modifying the neutron-lbaas code as obviously these other methods and protocols aren't supported by all LB providers | 15:38 |
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| mdurrant | Having said that, putting those things in a DB table behind an API seems like the right idea. | 15:40 |
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| mdurrant | Hey, thinkin of crazy stuff and Mr Orlando shows up, surely that is not a coincidence. | 15:41 |
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| anteaya | mdurrant: hello, so we are in feature freeze week of our release schedule: https://releases.openstack.org/newton/schedule.html | 15:44 |
| anteaya | I'm not sure how many takers you will get this week on your proposed topic of discussion | 15:44 |
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| anteaya | you might consider waiting for the rush to subside a bit and trying again? | 15:45 |
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| mdurrant | Thanks anteaya | 15:46 |
| anteaya | welcome | 15:46 |
| mdurrant | I will most definitely do so | 15:46 |
| anteaya | good idea | 15:46 |
| anteaya | sometimes timing is the most important thing | 15:46 |
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| mdurrant | Yeah - I was thinking today would be good because of the visibility, but failed to consider that most folks are probably heads-down getting in last-minute features before freeze. :) | 15:48 |
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| anteaya | mdurrant: thanks for listening :) | 16:02 |
| anteaya | anyone who isn't heads down is staying out of the way of those who are | 16:03 |
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| trevormc | Hey sorry to interrupt. I was trying to use the new oslo type Range released in 3.16 but I don't see it in the list of available types in run time. | 16:43 |
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| trevormc | Pdb) dir(types) ['Boolean', 'ConfigType', 'Dict', 'Float', 'Hostname', 'IPAddress', 'Integer', 'List', 'MultiString', 'Number', 'Port', 'String', 'URI', '__builtins__', '__doc__', '__file__', '__name__', '__package__', 'abc', 'netaddr', 'operator', 're', 'rfc3986', 'six', 'warnings'] | 16:44 |
| trevormc | I'm using oslo.config 3.17 and when I import types and use types.Range I get an AttributeError when using Range even though the docs say it was included in 3.16 | 16:44 |
| trevormc | The problem is my py27 packages are not updating, I changed the requirements.txt file in my project but the repository doesn't include all the changes. It's weird because a class in the same version release is there but not the one i want to use. | 16:45 |
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| clayg | yo! Swift has a feature branch going and we occasionally merge master onto - but everytime we do every bug that's been fixed/closed gets updated in launchpad and tons of emails fill up everyones inbox :\ | 18:48 |
| clayg | Does anyone know where that integration works/lives? | 18:48 |
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| clayg | I can't imagine those bug updates RE the feature branch are useful to anyone? the developers working on the feature branch don't really need them - and no one except the developers working on the feature branch should really be aware of or concerned with the feature branch AFAIK? | 18:49 |
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| openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/governance: propose approval policy for goal responses https://review.openstack.org/356699 | 18:56 |
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| njohnston | This may be a quick and stupid question, but it is something I don't see written down. There seems to be - at least for neutron - some sort of convention when you say 'recheck' on a patch to re-run tests to indicate the source of the issue. Like if the problem was a POST_FAILURE for a test, you're supposed to say 'recheck POST_MERGE'. Where is this convention documented? I don't see it in http://docs.openstack. | 19:19 |
| njohnston | org/infra/manual/developers.html#automated-testing | 19:19 |
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| clarkb | there really isnt a convention so nothing to document | 19:25 |
| clarkb | the zuul config just ignores the trailing text so some people use it to be more verbose | 19:25 |
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| njohnston | clarkb: Thanks. So if I say "recheck bug 1618599", for example, the only value to that is that gerrit makes "bug 1618599" a link to that bug in the comment display? | 19:27 |
| openstack | bug 1618599 in Cinder "test_backup_create_attached_volume fails in tempest" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1618599 | 19:27 |
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| clarkb | correct | 19:28 |
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| njohnston | clarkb: Thanks much! | 19:28 |
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| amrith | <cross posted to infra as well> is this the right place to ask a question about being unable to install packages for a project? Trying to install packages for tempest and I get a failure that there's no version of hacking that meets requirements. See: https://gist.github.com/amrith/d55b648b3a9f0d836e67ec9290af7b3a | 21:10 |
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