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| dims | dhellmann : looks like designate folks have some csharp code http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/designate-msdnsagent/tree/OpenStack.Designate.MicrosoftDNS.Console | 13:05 |
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| dhellmann | dims : interesting, I wonder how they test that | 13:07 |
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| dims | dhellmann : logs show that there was just one import and no changes since | 13:12 |
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| dims | notmyname : so, longer question - docker seems to be doing this https://github.com/docker/docker/blob/master/hack/vendor.sh https://github.com/docker/docker/tree/master/vendor/src | 13:14 |
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| dims | and go folks seem to be driving GO15VENDOREXPERIMENT https://github.com/golang/go/wiki/PackageManagementTools as "official" way to do dependencies | 13:14 |
| dims | notmyname : have you all experimented with what works? | 13:15 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/governance: [sahara] change release scheme of sahara-tests https://review.openstack.org/308883 | 13:19 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/governance: Update reference list for Neutron projects - addendum https://review.openstack.org/309618 | 13:22 |
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| mordred | dims: they're actually recommending vendoring code as the official way to handle depends? | 13:41 |
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| dims | mordred : yep, some details here https://medium.com/@freeformz/go-1-5-s-vendor-experiment-fd3e830f52c3 | 13:43 |
| mordred | oh - so what this is is just toolchain support for people who _wnat_ to vendor things | 13:43 |
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| mordred | not go saying that the only way to do deps is to vendor things | 13:43 |
| mordred | that's way more sane | 13:44 |
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| dims | mordred : what's the alternative :) | 13:46 |
| sdague | I was pretty sure go was all about vendoring | 13:46 |
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| sdague | given the whole "this github url is my library" | 13:47 |
| dims | sdague : right | 13:47 |
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| * dims dreads a go-incubator for sharing code :) | 13:49 | |
| mordred | so - godep seems to be more in-line with declaring dependencies and not commiting them to the local tree | 13:50 |
| mordred | using git as dependency managemnet != vendoring code into your own tree | 13:51 |
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| dims | mordred : right, so where will godep get the code from... random HEAD of libraries? | 13:51 |
| mordred | nope | 13:51 |
| mordred | it saves specific shas | 13:51 |
| mordred | lemme post an example | 13:51 |
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| mordred | http://paste.openstack.org/show/496070 | 13:52 |
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| mordred | thats a godeps file I just made for consul | 13:52 |
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| mordred | then to build consul using that godeps file, you do "godeps go install" and godeps will fetch those versions of those repos | 13:52 |
| dims | mordred : so we maintain that for each project? | 13:52 |
| mordred | yah | 13:52 |
| dims | and rely on github's infra i guess | 13:53 |
| mordred | well, that'll be the next step | 13:53 |
| mordred | figuring out if/how to hook in to something like that to point at local mirrors should we make thenm | 13:53 |
| mordred | but if we have files | 13:53 |
| dims | right | 13:53 |
| mordred | then it should be pretty easy to scan our repos and figure out what repos we need to mirror | 13:53 |
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| mordred | also - should we wind up with openstack go libs | 13:54 |
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| mordred | it would be a potential point for zuul-cloner to interact with to make sure that depends-on works | 13:54 |
| dims | sounds reasonable | 13:55 |
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| dims | will help us from a "left-pad" like disaster if repos go awol | 13:56 |
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| sdague | mordred: specifying a specific sha from a git tree is very close to vendoring | 14:01 |
| sdague | because you don't take any updates | 14:01 |
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| sdague | so you own the entire security surface | 14:01 |
| mordred | yes. but that's true no matter what in go because it's all build-time depends | 14:02 |
| sdague | mordred: sure | 14:02 |
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| mordred | godeps vs. vendoring is just about copy vs. reference | 14:02 |
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| sdague | sure | 14:03 |
| jroll | I think in the openstack go world, I'd want to use a godeps file like that, and the proposal bot does a proposal to latest HEAD | 14:03 |
| jroll | and if there's something in between that one wants to depend on, they can pull that in manually | 14:03 |
| jroll | (just random thoughts, I am not well educated on this) | 14:04 |
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| mordred | it's also possible that just giving up and vendoring is the 'right' choice | 14:11 |
| mordred | although it will make me very uninterested in working on any go related tooling | 14:12 |
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| dims | sdague : mordred : i am curious about what the swift folks think about this topic (cc @notmyname) | 14:12 |
| sdague | dims: sure | 14:12 |
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| dims | sdague : so far it seems like if we use godep then we can't apply a local security fix and need to wait till the project has been updated (and we'll pull in whatever else was in the git tree) | 14:14 |
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| mordred | dims: that's true of all of our dependencies though | 14:26 |
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| mordred | dims: we have no ability to apply local security fixes to any of our python dependencies withouth upstream making a new release | 14:26 |
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| dims | mordred : right, that's the tradeoff | 14:27 |
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| mordred | us applying code to a vendored thing is actually exactly the thing I would worry about if we drank the vendor-the-code koolaid | 14:27 |
| dims | between the choices | 14:27 |
| mordred | I mean, us applying fixes to upstream code locally I think is a TERRIBLE idea - so the fact that we can't do it is a vote in favor of godep to me ;) | 14:27 |
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| mordred | but, as I am not a go developer, my opinion is perhaps steeped in wrongthink | 14:28 |
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| dims | mordred : packagers and downstream folks will pick up what we do here.. | 14:30 |
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| mordred | dims: yah. I'm very interested in feedback from jamespage and folks on what they've learned as downstream packagers dealing with things | 14:32 |
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| dims | mordred : ++ | 14:34 |
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| mugsie | mordred: I know I asked zigo about it in Austin - he asked us to look at C :) | 14:37 |
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| mordred | mugsie: heh. | 14:37 |
| mordred | I mean, it turns out C is pretty awesome ... but that doesn't really solve the question at hand | 14:37 |
| mugsie | designate is alos looking at Go - we have a POC of one of our components | 14:38 |
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| mugsie | yeah | 14:38 |
| openstackgerrit | Kirill Zaitsev proposed openstack/governance: Mark murano deliverables as stable:follows-policy https://review.openstack.org/312572 | 14:38 |
| mugsie | vendoring feels dirty. at least with godep we can tie to a commit, so if we want a security fix, we can get the fix as soon as it is commited. | 14:39 |
| mordred | I wish people were looking at rust instead of go - their build system and dependency management is exceptional | 14:39 |
| mordred | mugsie: ++ | 14:39 |
| mugsie | only reason we looked at go was one of the devs did a weekend project to test something | 14:39 |
| mordred | mugsie: I'd like us to try godep unless there is something we learn that really makes it untennable | 14:39 |
| mugsie | and it was a crazy pref improvement | 14:39 |
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| mugsie | but then again writing DNS packets in python was always going to slow | 14:40 |
| jroll | go is definitely easier to onboard, coming from python | 14:40 |
| mugsie | from designate's side godep seems fine to us | 14:40 |
| jroll | onboard/pick up | 14:40 |
| mordred | jroll: really? rust feels much more like python to me whereas go feels more like java | 14:40 |
| mugsie | but I need to dig in a bit deeper to see if it has anything that would cause us issues down the line | 14:40 |
| mordred | but again, I'm potentially weird | 14:41 |
| mordred | mugsie: cool. | 14:41 |
| mugsie | mordred: potentially? | 14:41 |
| mordred | :) | 14:41 |
| jroll | mordred: huh, it has been a year or two since I looked at rust, but the syntax was... fun | 14:41 |
| jroll | I'm also weird, so it isn't that :) | 14:41 |
| mordred | mugsie: I _think_ we want to commit the Godeps.json and git ignore the _workspace dir, yeah? | 14:41 |
| jroll | to me go feels like a more pythonic java | 14:41 |
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| mugsie | I think so - it feels ... cleaner ... i think | 14:42 |
| guitarzan | jroll: are you just trying to make everyone disagree by saying that? :) | 14:42 |
| jroll | lol | 14:42 |
| jroll | yeah I'll stay out of this :D | 14:43 |
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| guitarzan | haha | 14:43 |
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| mugsie | one other question we had was docs. do we use godoc, sphinx, $other_doc_tool | 14:46 |
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| mordred | mugsie: that's an excellent question | 14:47 |
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| dims | mugsie : what's "normal" in go projects? | 14:48 |
| mordred | godoc feels more appropriate for go things ... but we'd have more tooling integratoin work to do | 14:48 |
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| mugsie | godoc seems the be the standard | 14:48 |
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| mugsie | but - I am not sure if we should break with the rest of the eco system | 14:48 |
| mugsie | how do JS do it? | 14:48 |
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| mordred | I think there are two different things | 14:49 |
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| mordred | godoc is programmer documentation and is written in-line | 14:49 |
| mordred | I think we should definitely do that | 14:49 |
| mugsie | inline docs + dev docs ? | 14:49 |
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| dims | krotscheck : around for a "how do JS folks do documentation"? | 14:49 |
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| mugsie | s/dev/user/ | 14:49 |
| krotscheck | dims: 5 minutes? This may require coffee :) | 14:50 |
| mordred | but godoc does not seem to be attempting to cover the narrative form that sphinx does | 14:50 |
| mordred | so maybe we stick with sphinx for narrative documentation about a thing | 14:50 |
| mugsie | mordred: ++ | 14:50 |
| mordred | and use godoc for programmer-level "this is documentation of the code itself" | 14:50 |
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| dims | krotscheck : trying to pull folks into this "new languages" conversation. no hurries | 14:53 |
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| mordred | krotscheck: don't listen to dims. HURRY! It's urgent and an asteroid is going to kill us all if you don't respond quickly | 14:53 |
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| dims | LOL | 14:53 |
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| dims | mordred : found csharp code in one of the designate repos this morning! | 14:55 |
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| dims | mugsie : how | 14:56 |
| dims | mugsie : how's that working? logs show just an initial import | 14:56 |
| mugsie | dims: dont talk to me about that damn plugin | 14:56 |
| dims | LOL. | 14:56 |
| dims | sorry :) | 14:57 |
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| mordred | to be fair - csharp is totally buildable and testable with mono | 14:57 |
| mugsie | it doesn't really work any more, _ am going to retire it soon | 14:57 |
| mordred | \o/ | 14:57 |
| krotscheck | Riiiight | 14:57 |
| krotscheck | dims | 14:57 |
| dims | mugsie : ++ | 14:57 |
| mugsie | mordred: not back then | 14:57 |
| krotscheck | dims: So, most of the "good" (i.e. well maintained, documented, etc) tools for JS doc generation are written in javascript. | 14:57 |
| krotscheck | There's a JSDoc extension for sphinx, but from playing around with it it's not really that great. | 14:57 |
| mugsie | it was an internal thing that we decided to give to the comunity, then a cycle later totally changed our plugin model | 14:58 |
| krotscheck | In addition, there are extension tools that specifically address framework constructs and patterns (such as angularjs) that use JSDoc's extensibility to do all kinds of weird crazy things. | 14:58 |
| dims | mugsie : ack. thanks for the info | 14:58 |
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| krotscheck | So, those, for instance, aren't really supported by the sphinx pieces. | 14:58 |
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| krotscheck | It doesn't help that the nature of javascript (functional) doesn't lend itself to a predictable code structure that says "Yes, this is a public exposed method that needs to be documented" as opposed to "This here is a function that exists entirely in a user inaccessible scope" | 14:59 |
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| krotscheck | dims: ^^ So in general: using sphinx is possible, and has infra things already built, but leaves us with lots of gaps. Using JS tools covers those gaps, but does not address the infra gaps, as well as styling things that have already been figured out. | 15:01 |
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| dims | krotscheck : ack. thanks | 15:02 |
| krotscheck | Personally, I'd prefer to use JS tools, because those will actually keep up with what's happening in the JS community. Otherwise we have to maintain that. | 15:02 |
| mordred | krotscheck: do the jsdoc tools cover both sides of the coin I was mentioning above wrt godoc? | 15:02 |
| mordred | krotscheck: or are they more like the godoc documentation of the code? | 15:02 |
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| krotscheck | mordred: I'd have to doublecheck, but from my experience the narrative is entirely contained in the top level file comments. | 15:03 |
| mordred | ah - gotcha | 15:03 |
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| anteaya | so if I understand correctly, vendoring means copying your dependencies in your repo, so should 3 separate repos all have the same dependencies that code is present * 3? | 15:04 |
| mordred | anteaya: yes. if you had three repos with the same depends, you'd have three copies of the code they depended on | 15:04 |
| anteaya | mordred: okey dokey | 15:04 |
| anteaya | thank you | 15:04 |
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| mordred | anteaya: the plusses are that everything you need comes from the git clone and is completely self-contained | 15:05 |
| mordred | so devs don't have to think about dependency management much | 15:05 |
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| mordred | the downsides are that you have all of that copying, and could wind up with local patches to vendored code that you might not know about | 15:05 |
| mordred | which makes tracking security things in redistributed things potentially more complex to deal with | 15:06 |
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| krotscheck | mordred: Looks like the jsdoc tools have two separate ways of handling things - the api doc thing I mentioned, and then some form of markdown processing that generates HTML pages. | 15:06 |
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| krotscheck | So the narrative pieces would be the latter. | 15:06 |
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| mordred | krotscheck: seems like we 100% want to use the javascript tools (and the go tools) for the api doc processing | 15:06 |
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| clarkb | jroll rust memory management has been simplified quite a bit in their run up to 1.0 worth another look if the last time you looked was more than 9 months ago | 15:07 |
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| anteaya | mordred: there are pros and cons, yes | 15:07 |
| anteaya | morning clarkb | 15:07 |
| mordred | krotscheck: and the discussion about using sphinx or the other thing is a worthwhile one to have as it relates to narrative->html stuff | 15:07 |
| clarkb | morning | 15:07 |
| krotscheck | mordred: Seems that way. | 15:07 |
| mordred | although I'd lean more towards using sphinx across the board for that | 15:07 |
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| mordred | especially since the go parts of designate and swift are parts of a larger thing that exists in a python context already | 15:08 |
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| krotscheck | mordred: As long as we can invoke sphinx without creating lots of python things in my javascript project, I'm good :) | 15:08 |
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| mordred | krotscheck: yah - for your entirely self-contained javascript projects, I think there is a slightly different discussion | 15:08 |
| mordred | like, if it's a javascript library that's standalone, putting a sphinx dir in its git repo seems ... weird | 15:09 |
| mordred | but then the other tooling concerns from before - like infra and styling hook ins and stuff | 15:09 |
| jroll | clarkb: yeah, so I've heard, just haven't taken the time to play :) | 15:09 |
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| aurelien__ | Hello there | 15:19 |
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| aurelien__ | I'm trying to make an ICLA | 15:20 |
| anteaya | aurelien__: have you followed all the steps at http://docs.openstack.org/infra/manual/developers.html#account-setup | 15:20 |
| aurelien__ | And keep getting 412 Session expired errors when submitting the form | 15:20 |
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| anteaya | are you behind a firewall? | 15:21 |
| aurelien__ | Surely | 15:21 |
| aurelien__ | But I can't administrate it | 15:21 |
| anteaya | then the firewall is the issue | 15:21 |
| jroll | seems like if there's a response from the server, firewall wouldn't be in play | 15:21 |
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| jroll | (but I suppose anything is possible) | 15:22 |
| krotscheck | mordred: I think we can start with places where we agree, use that as a way to learn more about the tooling, and then revisit the discussion once we actually know what's going on. | 15:22 |
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| ygbo | anteaya: our firewall permits everythong out | 15:22 |
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| anteaya | jroll: of all the "I can't sign the cla" issues I've ever seen this is my first 412 session expired | 15:23 |
| jroll | anteaya: I agree, seems like server issues | 15:23 |
| jroll | the only other thing I can think of... | 15:23 |
| jroll | aurelien__: do you have cookies enabled? (maybe needs third-party cookies?) | 15:24 |
| ygbo | anteayaour firewall is not blocking aurelien__ , the firewall is fully permissive for outbound traffic. | 15:24 |
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| aurelien__ | Yes, I have cookies enabled | 15:26 |
| jroll | hm | 15:26 |
| jroll | anteaya: I think this needs to be escalated to someone with more server knowledge/access, not sure who the best person is | 15:27 |
| fungi | aurelien__: ygbo: i just tested the contact information update form and it seems to be contacting the foundation member backend successfully for me, at least | 15:27 |
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| fungi | aurelien__: have you tried logging out of gerrit and back in again? maybe your gerrit session expired? | 15:27 |
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| anteaya | jroll: fungi to the rescue :) | 15:28 |
| jroll | \o/ | 15:28 |
| anteaya | fungi: he just had to finish a conversation in -infra | 15:28 |
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| ygbo | anteaya, jroll: thanks for your help, there was a problem with the account itself, aurelien__ managed to solve it in his account settings. | 16:10 |
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| anteaya | ygbo: okay good to know | 16:12 |
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| anteaya | glad aurelien__ got the issue fixed | 16:12 |
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| aurelien__ | I got the issue fixed by checking the gerrit account I use | 16:14 |
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| aurelien__ | And tried with another browser | 16:15 |
| aurelien__ | Only then I saw that many accounts were created | 16:15 |
| aurelien__ | Cleaned it all | 16:15 |
| aurelien__ | And started from scratch by making a new ICLA | 16:16 |
| aurelien__ | Glad it worked out just fine | 16:16 |
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| aurelien__ | Many thanks to you guys for your help. | 16:16 |
| aurelien__ | Although I'm still unsure about those 412 errors. | 16:16 |
| aurelien__ | But yeah, thank you again. | 16:17 |
| aurelien__ | And yeah | 16:17 |
| aurelien__ | Logging out of every session helped I guess | 16:17 |
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| mordred | krotscheck: ++ | 16:19 |
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| anteaya | aurelien__: what do you mean many accounts were created? | 16:21 |
| krotscheck | mordred: btw, where is the cloud config documentation that you mentioned needed new work? | 16:21 |
| anteaya | aurelien__: what email or emails did you use? | 16:21 |
| anteaya | fungi: we may have to clean up the gerrit db ^^ | 16:21 |
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| mordred | krotscheck: ah! | 16:23 |
| mordred | krotscheck: http://docs.openstack.org/developer/os-client-config/ | 16:23 |
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| mordred | krotscheck: there are things here: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/os-client-config/tree/os_client_config/defaults.json that are not documented | 16:24 |
| fungi | anteaya: thanks for the heads up | 16:24 |
| mordred | krotscheck: there are things that http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/os-client-config/tree/os_client_config/schema.json and http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/os-client-config/tree/os_client_config/vendor-schema.json don't fully cover | 16:24 |
| fungi | i'll see if i can spot an "aurelien" with duplicates | 16:24 |
| mordred | krotscheck: and there are some things that os-client-config does with the contents of those files or transforms that it performs that are just not covered anywhere | 16:24 |
| anteaya | fungi: welcome and thank you | 16:25 |
| mordred | krotscheck: I think adding a second language is a great time to find all of those | 16:25 |
| krotscheck | mordred: That... is a lot. | 16:25 |
| mordred | krotscheck: btw - we made the vendor files json http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/os-client-config/tree/os_client_config/vendors/rackspace.json in anticipation that they might be useful for other things | 16:25 |
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| mordred | krotscheck: and have discussed potentially breaking them into their own repo once there is actually another thing that cares about them | 16:26 |
| krotscheck | mordred: Yes, that seems sane. | 16:26 |
| mordred | krotscheck: turns out actually supporting interoperable openstack clouds takes a lot of a-priori knowledge about things and a bunch of workarounds for stuff | 16:26 |
| krotscheck | Ok, it's on my todo list. I'm trying to clear my plate of CORS, NPM Mirror, and eslint things at the moment, will probably take another week. | 16:27 |
| mordred | woot | 16:27 |
| krotscheck | mordred: Yeah, I remember your talk in Vancouver. | 16:27 |
| mordred | krotscheck: fwiw, I'm highly motivated to help you a lot with this | 16:27 |
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| krotscheck | mordred: Sweeeeeeet | 16:27 |
| mordred | as I'd like to get the stuff here into a place where we can point all of the languages at it and say "just use this" | 16:27 |
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| openstackgerrit | David Lyle proposed openstack/governance: Adding tempest-horizon repo https://review.openstack.org/312640 | 17:07 |
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| openstackgerrit | David Lyle proposed openstack/governance: Adding tempest-horizon repo https://review.openstack.org/312640 | 17:08 |
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| bswartz | mtreinish: can I ask you as question about https://github.com/openstack-dev/specs-cookiecutter/commit/8738f58981da3ad9c0f27fb545d61747213482a4 | 17:22 |
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| bswartz | mtreinish: ^ this change didn't modify https://github.com/openstack-dev/specs-cookiecutter/blob/master/%7B%7Bcookiecutter.repo_name%7D%7D/setup.cfg or https://github.com/openstack-dev/specs-cookiecutter/blob/master/%7B%7Bcookiecutter.repo_name%7D%7D/README.rst -- they both still stay Apache | 17:24 |
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| jamespage | mordred, hey - just reading my backscroll ... | 18:08 |
| jamespage | go in distro and challenges right? | 18:08 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ryan Hallisey proposed openstack/governance: Kolla-kubernetes repo https://review.openstack.org/312707 | 19:19 |
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| dims | mordred : BUT BUT, folks did tell us ""oh hai, I've written a Go version of Nova/Magnum/Ironic and y'all should bring it in to the big tent"" :) | 19:49 |
| mordred | dims: who did? | 19:50 |
| jroll | wat | 19:51 |
| mordred | dims: clearly you're not talking about the intel thing - because that was a VP standing on stage pointing at work done in a corner and attempting to publically shame the openstack project in some strange way at an openstack summit | 19:51 |
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| jroll | oh wow, I need to watch that talk | 19:52 |
| dims | mordred : so they did throw the code out into the open https://github.com/01org/ciao | 19:52 |
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| mordred | dims: I would not consider that "y'all should bring it in to the big tent" as much as "screw you guys, you're all assholes and we're not really sure why we became platinum members of this foundation since clearly 5 guys in a back room inside of one of our facilities can duplicate things better than you can" | 19:52 |
| mordred | dims: I have no intention of ever looking at that repo | 19:53 |
| dims | mordred : i know taking out my frustration as well | 19:53 |
| mordred | dims: that someone thought announcing it on the keynote stage at an openstack summit was anything other than HIGHLY insulting amazes me | 19:53 |
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| * jroll remembers "maas > ironic" on a keynote stage | 19:54 | |
| dims | jroll : they said that openstack is at an "inflection point" without a unified scheduler and if not written in go | 19:54 |
| jroll | dims: watching now | 19:55 |
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| mordred | dims: you konw what would be great? actually engaging with the community on the topic | 19:56 |
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| dims | mordred : want me to roll the dice on -dev? | 19:56 |
| mordred | but I categorically reject that premise that rewriting openstack in go will solve anything that rewriting from scratch in python would not also solve | 19:56 |
| mordred | which is to say - almost noting | 19:56 |
| mordred | nothing | 19:56 |
| mordred | and it would NOT be a service to our existing users | 19:57 |
| dims | right | 19:57 |
| mordred | dims: if you do, I'll wind up responding in some way that won't make anyone happy | 19:57 |
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| dims | hence holding back :) | 19:57 |
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| dims | not just you, i've heard from others too | 19:57 |
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| dstufft | mordred: the obvious solution is to just rewrite openstack in a new language once every year or two | 19:58 |
| dims | mordred : while i am at it. another one - the coreos demo was based on kolla, specifically on kolla-mesos, by intel engineers from poland and was passed off as a independent "stackenetes" effort | 20:00 |
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| dims | dstufft : LOL | 20:00 |
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| jroll | dims: funny enough, that repo's scheduler appears to only do VMs :) | 20:00 |
| dims | jroll : lol - tiny implementation details | 20:02 |
| dims | https://github.com/intelsdi-x/kolla-mesos/tree/k8s_lightweight for those who are interested | 20:02 |
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| jroll | "we have 3 schedulers - nova, magnum, and ironic" um. | 20:02 |
| jroll | this is hilarious | 20:02 |
| dims | told ya | 20:02 |
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| mordred | dstufft: tree of liberty. blood of tyrants. blah blah? | 20:04 |
| mordred | jroll: the best part is that the scheduler problem seems to be news to them | 20:04 |
| mordred | as opposed to being something that people have been working on for years | 20:05 |
| mordred | and the proposed solution fails at the same things the other proposed solutions failed at ... | 20:05 |
| mordred | EXISTING USER BASE | 20:05 |
| dims | mordred : oh, saved the best for last....remember the gartner presentation. one of the analyst ended up saying this - | 20:05 |
| jroll | heh | 20:05 |
| dims | mordred : https://twitter.com/cloudpundit/status/726075685878521856 | 20:05 |
| mordred | dims: that's so great | 20:06 |
| dims | so essentially that's 3 keynotes down the drain in my books | 20:06 |
| jroll | there's a reason I don't go to keynotes anymore | 20:06 |
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| mordred | jroll: ++ | 20:10 |
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| stewie925_ | hello guys | 20:35 |
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| stewie925_ | I have a question on an issue with my mock test | 20:35 |
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| kiranv | Hello All, | 21:04 |
| kiranv | I am trying to bring up a multi-region setup | 21:04 |
| kiranv | I am using the docs at http://docs.openstack.org/liberty/install-guide-ubuntu/ to setup my nodes | 21:05 |
| kiranv | I am able to bring up 2 regions.. but from my dashboard, when I try to create a network on region2, it gives me the following error | 21:05 |
| kiranv | RemoteRestError: Error in REST call to remote network controller: None | 21:06 |
| kiranv | can anyone help me with this? Thanks | 21:06 |
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| thingee | johnthetubaguy: hey I remember you mentioning something about nova exposing capabilities so users can discover them. do you know which spec that is? | 22:26 |
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| auggy | thingee: johnthetubaguy: it might be this one: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/289405/ | 22:32 |
| thingee | auggy: thanks. That one is on policy. I thought I heard something about hypervisor capabilities | 22:32 |
| auggy | ah ok sorry, i was thinking you were referring to API stuff :) | 22:33 |
| * auggy has API discoverability on the brain | 22:33 | |
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| thingee | auggy: yeah it would be discovering what deployed n-cpu's are capable of doing and exposing that via the API. I heard I think from johnthetubaguy about this idea, but wasn't sure if a spec surfaced about this | 22:46 |
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| thingee | auggy: similar to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/270980 which exposes upload methods via glance api | 22:47 |
| auggy | thingee: ahh ok yeah makes sense | 22:48 |
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| thingee | auggy: well, I don't necessary agree with it myself. I think it makes lives difficult for defcore and client/users to deal inconsistencies across different openstack clouds. | 22:49 |
| auggy | thingee: i feel like i was in the room when that came up but my brain is such oatmeal ;) | 22:49 |
| thingee | auggy: ha, mine was definitely oatmeal on tuesday | 22:49 |
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| auggy | thingee: you're pacific time right? if so, johnthetubaguy is usually around before noon our time | 22:50 |
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| thingee | auggy: yeah, I figured I'd leave the ping now and get an answer later :) | 22:50 |
| auggy | ahh right he's not PTL anymore so it's probably not as bad for him as before ;) | 22:50 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/governance: Add js-openstack-registry-hooks (openstack-registry-hooks) to openstack-infra https://review.openstack.org/308663 | 23:34 |
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| stewie925_ | hello guys, I am having an issue with assertion error in mock test | 23:40 |
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| stewie925_ | and would like some help in getting that assertion error issue fixed | 23:40 |
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| anteaya | stewie925_: very of all I'm not a guy | 23:49 |
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| anteaya | secondly which project are you testing when you experience the error? | 23:50 |
| anteaya | s/very/first | 23:51 |
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