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greghaynes | morgan: O_o | 01:21 |
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greghaynes | That's... Unfortunate | 01:21 |
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morgan | greghaynes: yeah. :( | 01:22 |
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morgan | greghaynes: known issue with this laptop. Guess I'll have to wait for my x1c | 01:22 |
greghaynes | I can confirm that the x1c works pretty well with tumbleweed :0 | 01:23 |
greghaynes | Er, :( | 01:23 |
greghaynes | :), GAH, emoticons on phone are fail | 01:23 |
morgan | Hah. | 01:23 |
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morgan | greghaynes: do you run tumbleweed with gnome or cinnamon? | 01:33 |
greghaynes | morgan: I use i3wm | 01:33 |
morgan | Ah | 01:34 |
greghaynes | I think I have it install xfce as default | 01:34 |
morgan | I might take a gander at your setup at the summit if you're not opposed. | 01:34 |
morgan | (And you're there) | 01:34 |
greghaynes | yea, its pretty straightforward, just i3wm, suckless-tools, dmenu | 01:34 |
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greghaynes | and defaults | 01:34 |
greghaynes | but yep, i'll be there | 01:35 |
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coreycb | degorenko, that's correct, murano is at 2.0.0 which maps to the latest upstream release | 11:54 |
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annegentle | hey sdague questions re: openstackdocstheme when you get a moment | 13:10 |
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sdague | sure | 13:11 |
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agentleweb | sdague: sorry, network changed | 13:28 |
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agentleweb | sdague: so you have two fixes: allow CSS from extensions, and then allow more JS https://review.openstack.org/#/c/298677/ -- what else needs to happen? TOC work is one I believe. | 13:31 |
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sdague | agentleweb: that's all I pushed so far | 13:50 |
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agentleweb | sdague: ok, I'd like to log bugs for the remaining issues | 13:52 |
agentleweb | sdague: put a new bullet in the etherpad https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/api-site-in-rst feel free to add there | 13:53 |
sdague | agentleweb: honestly, I gave up entirely on going any further with it | 13:53 |
sdague | the way the theme is integrated is so very different from oslo.sphinx, I'm not even sure how to reconcile | 13:53 |
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agentleweb | sdague: ok, I'll add it to the Summit discussion on docs tools. | 13:56 |
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agentleweb | sdague: honestly my ask would be for web development/ design for the whole developer.openstack site... | 13:56 |
sdague | agentleweb: sure | 13:56 |
agentleweb | sdague: it's not navigable now, not very useful | 13:56 |
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sdague | I think part of the challenge is though that the openstack manuals theme was done without understanding the sphinx implications | 13:57 |
agentleweb | sdague: yeah that's the issue -- what I'm trying to capture | 13:57 |
agentleweb | sdague: but I don't understand how to redo or reverse those effects? | 13:57 |
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sdague | agentleweb: it needs someone to own that space | 14:00 |
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agentleweb | sdague: we need that overall for all docs | 14:01 |
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agentleweb | sdague: what's your idea? | 14:01 |
sdague | agentleweb: honestly, that's all my ideas. Someone needs to own that theme and redo it as sphinx compatible. Otherwise it can't be used for anything that has sphinx extensions | 14:02 |
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sdague | I don't know who that someone would be | 14:02 |
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agentleweb | sdague: just to be sure I understand, your js and css patches aren't enough then. | 14:02 |
sdague | agentleweb: I don't know if they are enough | 14:03 |
agentleweb | sdague: how would some one learn enough to understand sphinx compatible? | 14:03 |
agentleweb | sdague: or test? | 14:03 |
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sdague | try to make it all work | 14:03 |
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sdague | I proposed fixes for the problems I found up until I realized that this was potentially a never ending pit of changes | 14:03 |
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sdague | then stopped | 14:03 |
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sdague | the dueling jquery versions issue is a real issue | 14:04 |
agentleweb | sdague: ok | 14:04 |
sdague | and comes from the fact that openstack docs theme isn't a sphinx theme | 14:04 |
sdague | it's a random collection of html / js | 14:04 |
agentleweb | sdague: okay that's useful | 14:04 |
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ameade | dtroyer: near trivial devstack patch that's been hanging out awhile. thanks! https://review.openstack.org/#/c/300585/ | 14:05 |
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sdague | the moment you enable the "scripts" feature of sphinx, you get a version of jquery embedded in sphinx core | 14:05 |
agentleweb | sdague: so the task would be: keep working on changes to get api ref working, fix issues as they come up? Or is it: Sphinx-ify the theme? | 14:05 |
sdague | agentleweb: well, it depends on what the end game is | 14:05 |
agentleweb | sdague: heh right | 14:05 |
agentleweb | sdague: for me, it's dev docs | 14:06 |
agentleweb | sdague: not sure it matters to others | 14:06 |
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sdague | then you need sphinx compatible theme | 14:06 |
agentleweb | sdague: as in, it's "good enough" as-is | 14:06 |
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sdague | it should act like oslo.sphinx I think | 14:06 |
agentleweb | sdague: or we totally revamp developer.openstack | 14:06 |
agentleweb | sdague: due to the differing requirements anyway | 14:06 |
sdague | and just be an ext include | 14:06 |
agentleweb | sdague: ok this is helpful | 14:06 |
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agentleweb | sdague: thanks | 14:08 |
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openstackgerrit | Emilien Macchi proposed openstack/governance: Update release tags for some Puppet OpenStack modules https://review.openstack.org/297382 | 14:25 |
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EmilienM | coreycb, jamespage: I found an error in our CI jobs lately: http://logs.openstack.org/33/303933/1/gate/gate-puppet-neutron-puppet-beaker-rspec-ubuntu-trusty/c701f37/console.html.gz#_2016-04-15_20_13_05_850 | 14:47 |
EmilienM | should I just recheck? | 14:47 |
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kamal2 | Hello.. I'm trying to understand what framework is used to implement OpenStack APIs. Any documentation pointers? | 14:55 |
coreycb | EmilienM, is that just an install of neutron-sriov-agent from mitaka? or is there more to it to recreate? | 14:55 |
EmilienM | coreycb: mitaka | 14:56 |
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jroll | kamal2: it depends on the project, I'd recommend looking at code mostly | 14:56 |
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kamal2 | jroll: i'm particularly interested about Neutron APIs. Isn't there a single API framework that is used across projects? | 14:57 |
coreycb | EmilienM, are you doing an upgrade or anything other than just apt-get install? | 14:57 |
EmilienM | coreycb: let me check | 14:57 |
jroll | kamal2: no, some projects use flask, some use pecan, etc | 14:58 |
* jroll looks at neutron | 14:58 | |
EmilienM | coreycb: just fresh install https://github.com/openstack/puppet-neutron/blob/stable/mitaka/spec/acceptance/basic_neutron_spec.rb#L75 | 14:58 |
EmilienM | coreycb: I ran recheck to see if it happens again | 14:58 |
jroll | kamal2: looks like neutron specifically uses webob https://github.com/openstack/neutron/search?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=webob | 14:58 |
jroll | kamal2: I believe nova does as well | 14:58 |
coreycb | EmilienM, ok. a general install seems to work for me, but let me bang on it a little. | 14:59 |
kamal2 | jroll: thanks .. I am doing a new project and was wondering how to start with the API implementation. | 14:59 |
jroll | kamal2: I see. some options worth looking at are webob, pecan (but not with wsme, wsme is dead), falcon, flask | 15:01 |
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kamal2 | jroll: ok I will take a look. Aware about any discussion on which framework the community is converging on? | 15:04 |
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jroll | kamal2: there was some discussion here but I don't think we ended up choosing a winner http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-March/088658.html | 15:04 |
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p1l3t | can someone send me a link on how to write a vendor plugin for cinder? | 15:05 |
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kamal2 | jroll: looks like that discussion didn't much further.. whats your opinion about using flask? | 15:07 |
jroll | kamal2: I like flask, personally | 15:08 |
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cdent | jroll, kamal2: I've made commitments to flask, despite not liking it, because it has all the signs of having a long life | 15:09 |
jroll | ++ | 15:10 |
cdent | sigmavirus24: shall we set a time, but not now, to have a small confab called "we need to talk about httplib2"? | 15:10 |
smcginnis | p1l3t: Hey, here's a good starting point: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Cinder#How_To_Contribute_A_Driver | 15:11 |
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kamal2 | cdent: thanks for the feedback | 15:13 |
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cdent | kamal2: my own personal preference is to avoid the frameworks and just use WSGI directly, except for uri dispatching, for which I use selector | 15:15 |
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cdent | but I acknowledge that doing so is problematic in a complex many-contributors environment | 15:15 |
cdent | so something that is generic, well-documented, popular (like flask) gets big points | 15:15 |
sigmavirus24 | cdent: definitely. Our best bet for me not forgetting it and being able to make it this week will be between the hours of 9 and 5 CDT though | 15:17 |
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cdent | sigmavirus24: I'm flexible | 15:17 |
sigmavirus24 | (GMT-5 that is) | 15:18 |
* cdent nods | 15:18 | |
sigmavirus24 | cdent: yeah, any time this week. I can probably do earlier | 15:18 |
sigmavirus24 | (maybe 7 or 8 - 5) | 15:18 |
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cdent | I'm not really super smart in the morning anyway, so your midday-ish is very palatable to me | 15:19 |
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coreycb | EmilienM, I wonder if the mitaka cloud archive isn't enabled when the install of neutron-sriov-agent is installed | 15:19 |
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EmilienM | coreycb: oh it is, let me show | 15:19 |
coreycb | EmilienM, ok no need to show, just trying to think of what could cause it | 15:20 |
EmilienM | coreycb: let me double check, you might be right | 15:20 |
EmilienM | coreycb: you are right I think :è) | 15:21 |
EmilienM | coreycb: I found in logs the UCA repo were installed after | 15:21 |
EmilienM | coreycb: and this is happening since our bump to "updates" repo, I think I think why... sorry for noise | 15:21 |
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cdent | sigmavirus24: pretty much any time after 1pm your time is open for me this week. earlier than that there are various meetings to negotiate around. Friday is wide open all day. | 15:22 |
coreycb | EmilienM, ok, cool. hopefully that's all it is. | 15:23 |
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sigmavirus24 | cdent: I just have one ~30 min meeting on Friday. Shall we schedule for Friday then? | 15:23 |
EmilienM | coreycb: we also re-enabled some components that were disabled only on ubuntu testing, and all is fine | 15:23 |
EmilienM | coreycb: like sahara | 15:23 |
cdent | sigmavirus24: sure, you pick | 15:23 |
sigmavirus24 | 10 CDT sound good? | 15:24 |
coreycb | EmilienM, that's good | 15:24 |
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cdent | sigmavirus24: yup, that will work just fine | 15:24 |
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stevemar | sdague: oh noes, no more keystoneauth session | 15:27 |
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stevemar | sdague: i would be happy to transform one of keystone's working group sessions to a ksc->ksa session | 15:28 |
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sdague | stevemar: I think that moving it to a bootstrapping session is going to help more people | 15:30 |
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stevemar | sdague: fair enough | 15:30 |
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morgan | sdague: ++ | 16:57 |
morgan | sdague: i think it's the best of the outcomes based on schedule-y thing. | 16:57 |
morgan | s | 16:57 |
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openstackgerrit | Mike Perez proposed openstack/governance: Grant Cross-Project Spec Team Voting in Specs https://review.openstack.org/306244 | 17:11 |
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sdague | stevemar / morgan do either of you have an opinion on this - https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1567694 ? | 17:28 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1567694 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "nova's neutron client auth_uri uses admin" [Undecided,New] | 17:28 |
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sdague | we've got quite a few bugs which are basically about the keystone auth registered bits in the nova.conf, that are failing for folks | 17:28 |
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morgan | sdague: looking | 17:32 |
morgan | sdague: i am sure i have an opinion | 17:32 |
morgan | ;) | 17:32 |
morgan | sdague: so, v3 doesn't care if it's admin or public | 17:33 |
morgan | sdague: the routes are the same. | 17:33 |
morgan | sdague: it should be 100% safe to use either endpoint in all cases (unless someone breaks keystone) | 17:33 |
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morgan | sdague: if someone is breaking keystone, i will have other words for them ... and it starts with "Defcore" (or similar) | 17:33 |
morgan | i will comment on the bug | 17:34 |
stevemar | sdague: yeah, shouldn't matter if it's public or admin port | 17:34 |
morgan | sdague: commented. | 17:35 |
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sdague | ok, thanks | 17:36 |
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morgan | happy to help. | 17:37 |
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dmsimard | jamespage: o/ Will you be attending http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-April/092505.html ? | 20:06 |
jamespage | dmsimard, oh yes indeed | 20:07 |
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dmsimard | Great. Folks from RDO and zigo will be there as well. | 20:08 |
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zigo | dmsimard: There's lots of stuff in "Issues with current system" which are non-issues, and for which the release team is doing completely useless work. | 20:12 |
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zigo | dmsimard: For example, checking that all projects have up-to-date dependencies. | 20:12 |
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zigo | dmsimard: When it's for 3rd party libs, that's important, for but for oslo, the clients and all, that's IMO useless, as we (distro) will anyway package the latest from the global-reqs ... | 20:13 |
zigo | Not sure if I should reply that to the thread or what ... | 20:13 |
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dmsimard | That thread is weird to me, I think there are more deployments that are using packaging from RDO, UCA, Debian and SUSE than people may realize. I understand upstream wanting to try and make it more convenient to install from source and maintain dependencies. I guess this is the whole point of discussing it. The status quo might not be ideal idea either, got to see in which direction it is best to go | 20:15 |
dmsimard | in. | 20:15 |
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anteaya | I think dhellmann is interested in gathering data on that | 20:36 |
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anteaya | so if you have information or data on how many deployments are using which packages that would be helpful information | 20:37 |
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anteaya | adding that to the etherpad would be great as it would help others prepare for the session | 20:37 |
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dmsimard | anteaya: aye, we'll participate | 20:39 |
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ihrachys | dhellmann: I don't know exactly how, but https://review.openstack.org/#/c/296701/ works fine without origin/ prefix | 20:42 |
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dhellmann | ihrachys : are you running it locally? | 20:42 |
ihrachys | yes. but it checks out repos with zuul into tmp itself | 20:42 |
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dhellmann | is zuul-cloner using your cache? | 20:43 |
anteaya | dmsimard: wonderful, thank you | 20:44 |
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ihrachys | dhellmann: which cache exactly? it creates a new temp dir for every call. | 20:45 |
dhellmann | ihrachys : the reason I have it using zuul-cloner is that you can tell zuul-cloner to use a local repo as a cache and then update it from the remote repo | 20:45 |
dhellmann | it doesn't sound like you're doing that, though | 20:45 |
ihrachys | those checkouts are short lived (removed after tool exits) | 20:45 |
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dhellmann | yeah | 20:45 |
dhellmann | I'm not sure why it's working, I'll have to play with it | 20:45 |
ihrachys | dhellmann: no, I don't know I can cache for zuul, so probably I don't :) | 20:46 |
dhellmann | yeah, you would have had to set an environment variable for that to work :-) | 20:46 |
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ihrachys | dhellmann: thanks for looking at it. I am ok to change if you think it's needed, I just felt it's worth telling you that it actually works as-is. | 20:52 |
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dhellmann | ihrachys : given that this is a release tool, I would be more comfortable being pedantic | 20:53 |
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dims | lifeless : dhellmann/ttx and i were reviewing tarballs and saw that setup.cfg and pbr.json was not always the same everytime. logged a PR in setuptools (https://github.com/pypa/setuptools/pull/553) and a review in pbr (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/307405/) if you can take a peek | 21:52 |
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dims | lifeless : want to get to a point where we can run md5sum and get consistent results | 21:53 |
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clarkb | dims: ordereddcit is new in py27, officially we don't support py26 but I think lifeless wanted to keep py26 for pbr? | 21:54 |
clarkb | dims: in any case +2 from me but lifeless may objcet on those grounds | 21:54 |
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dims | clarkb : thanks, i can catch ImportError(s) if needed | 21:55 |
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anteaya | agentleweb: great background singer in your video bit | 22:04 |
anteaya | agentleweb: what bird is that? | 22:04 |
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lifeless | dims: clarkb: yes, 2.6 support for pbr is a thing, because the rest of the world hasn't deep-sixed 2.6 yet, and pbr well, it has users. | 22:06 |
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agentleweb | anteaya: I think it's a very chirpy cardinal :) | 22:07 |
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anteaya | it is lovely | 22:07 |
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anteaya | agentleweb: such a lovely studio you have | 22:08 |
anteaya | great acoustics | 22:08 |
lifeless | dims: reviewed both - tl;dr needs tests and 2.6 support for pbr. | 22:08 |
agentleweb | anteaya: aw, thanks. backyard in a canyon (sorta, limestone creekbed I guess) | 22:08 |
anteaya | agentleweb: ah, sounds beautiful | 22:08 |
anteaya | and sounds beautiful | 22:08 |
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dims | lifeless : ack. just wanted to see if you are ok with the approach. will fix both in a bit | 23:07 |
dims | lifeless thanks! | 23:07 |
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