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| openstackgerrit | Jesse Pretorius (odyssey4me) proposed openstack/governance: Rename openstack-ansible-ironic to openstack-ansible-os_ironic https://review.openstack.org/299208 | 08:53 |
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| vsaienko | Hello here, please review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/298446/ it is one line change that allow to pass TEMPEST_OS_TEST_TIMEOUT to Ironic jobs | 09:14 |
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| vsaienko | devstack-gate core please review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/298446/ this is one line patch, that adds ability to override TEMPEST_OS_TEST_TIMEOUT for jobs with Ironic virt_driver | 10:42 |
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| vsaienko | project-config cores, please review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/298569/ this patch inscrease TEMPEST_OS_TEST_TIMEOUT for ironic-multitenant-network job. It already has +1 from Ironic cores and PTL | 10:44 |
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| degorenko | ddellav, hi, is here any progress with sahara package? | 10:55 |
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| -openstackstatus- NOTICE: Gate on project-config is currently broken due to IRC tests. The problem has been detected and we are working to fix the issue as soon as possible. | 11:13 | |
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| ddellav | degorenko i was unable to reproduce the error, looking at the package source all those files are there so im not sure what the issue is but i've pulled in some other people to look at it so I'll update you when we know more. In the meantime, EmilienM might want to try to upgrade to the RC1 package when it's released later this week. | 12:18 |
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| EmilienM | ddellav: I think zigo updated something | 12:26 |
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| EmilienM | coreycb: can I ask you if you updated sahara ? | 12:26 |
| ddellav | EmilienM coreycb is out for the week, sahara is updated to RC1 but it's still in staging. | 12:27 |
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| ddellav | there are some issues with barbican that are holding up the rc1 release but those should be taken care of today and then we'll get rc1 regression tested and moved to proposed. | 12:28 |
| zigo | ddellav: EmilienM: I did fix Sahara missing json files in Debian, if that's what you're talking about. | 12:29 |
| ddellav | zigo awesome | 12:29 |
| zigo | ddellav: So, you're syncing it? | 12:29 |
| zigo | EmilienM: I'm slowly adding stuff to my CI, but it really eats a lot of time to do so. | 12:30 |
| zigo | EmilienM: Currently working on Trove. | 12:30 |
| ddellav | zigo it's already been sync'd by coreycb last week and our files aren't missing so thats what i was confused. | 12:30 |
| ddellav | *why | 12:30 |
| EmilienM | I just asked if ubuntu/proposed was updated for sahara | 12:31 |
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| ddellav | EmilienM http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/ubuntu-server/cloud-archive/mitaka_versions.html | 12:32 |
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| EmilienM | ddellav: well, it's still failing: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/297415/ | 12:34 |
| EmilienM | http://logs.openstack.org/15/297415/1/check/gate-puppet-sahara-puppet-beaker-rspec-ubuntu-trusty/f4aaab4/logs/sahara/sahara-api.txt.gz | 12:34 |
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| EmilienM | using 4.0.0~b3-3ubuntu1~cloud0 | 12:34 |
| EmilienM | maybe I can try again | 12:34 |
| ddellav | can you try using rc1? it's available in universe EmilienM | 12:34 |
| EmilienM | ddellav: it's in proposed? | 12:35 |
| EmilienM | it seems like yes | 12:35 |
| EmilienM | 'updates' repo is really in bad shape | 12:35 |
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| degorenko | ddellav, ok, thanks | 12:48 |
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| coreycb | EmilienM, I just synced sahara 1:4.0.0~rc1-3. | 13:18 |
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| coreycb | EmilienM, fyi, launchpad wasn't seeing it yesterday when I tried. too early I guess. | 13:20 |
| EmilienM | coreycb: ok, thx | 13:20 |
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| dims_ | lifeless : so jroll identified a flaw in upper-constraints.txt, projects that don't get tested in the bot proposed review in openstack/requirements repo are likely to break if projects subscribe to constraints | 14:14 |
| jroll | uh oh, what have I done :) | 14:14 |
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| cdent | jroll: troublemaker | 14:15 |
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| dims_ | jroll : we kinda knew it, but since another script was proposing changes to project requirements etc, we may have kind of forgotten about it :) | 14:15 |
| dims_ | jroll : definitely a great point | 14:15 |
| jroll | dims_: ya | 14:15 |
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| jroll | the thing is, it's going to be a gate explosion there if we put everyone's jobs on that repo | 14:16 |
| dims_ | right | 14:16 |
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| dims_ | dhellmann : ^^ | 14:16 |
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| jroll | even with unit tests, if we assume unit test gates are 1% broken, with 50 projects we'll end up with requirements gate broken 50% of the time | 14:16 |
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| jroll | so I'm not sure this is solvable, was just trying to make folks aware that u-c isn't a magic "my gate never breaks" thing | 14:17 |
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| cdent | I think we overstate the damage of the gate breaking. | 14:17 |
| cdent | When the gate breaks that's a good thing | 14:17 |
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| cdent | We know there are problems and have signals that can lead us to fix them. | 14:17 |
| cdent | The problem happens when we take the short hop to resolving those problems rather than the hard work. | 14:17 |
| jroll | not when most people refuse to help debug the gate :/ | 14:18 |
| cdent | that's because they are able to get away with it | 14:18 |
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| cdent | we're encouraging brittleness on many dimensions | 14:20 |
| jroll | how so? | 14:20 |
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| cdent | jroll: I have to get on the phone in a couple minutes so I'm not sure I can give that question a proper response. | 14:21 |
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| jroll | fair enough :) | 14:22 |
| cdent | I keep telling myself that I'm going to write it up, but keep applying bandaids instead. | 14:22 |
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| EmilienM | coreycb: I still have the issue with 4.0.0~rc1-1~cloud0 | 14:35 |
| EmilienM | http://logs.openstack.org/15/297415/1/check/gate-puppet-sahara-puppet-beaker-rspec-ubuntu-trusty/75e9c95/logs/sahara/sahara-api.txt.gz | 14:36 |
| EmilienM | ddellav: ^ | 14:36 |
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| dhellmann | dims_ , jroll, cdent: yeah, that's a known issue with the current system. It doesn't apply for basic requirements changes, because those are synced into projects. We don't want that for constraints for other reasons, and I'm not sure if lifeless has a plan to address it centrally. | 14:59 |
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| jroll | dhellmann: yeah, I understand it's mostly unsolvable, I just wanted to point it out | 15:00 |
| dhellmann | jroll : it's another reason to reconsider our whole approach to global requirements | 15:00 |
| dhellmann | the requirements that made us develop what we have now are changing | 15:01 |
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| jroll | dhellmann: I'll always advocate that what we've done with u-c should be what is in g-r :) | 15:01 |
| jroll | strictly pinning deps is the only way to live | 15:01 |
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| vsaienko | devstack-gate cores please review one line patch that allows to pass TEMPEST_OS_TEST_TIMEOUT for Ironic jobs https://review.openstack.org/#/c/298446/ | 15:27 |
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| jroll | vsaienko: might have better luck in -qa | 15:28 |
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| clarkb | jroll that doesnt play nice with distros though | 15:55 |
| clarkb | so we have both the "this probably works" and the "use this if you want to use what we use list" | 15:56 |
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| jroll | clarkb: sure, I know, distro packaged python makes me sad | 15:58 |
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| mriedem | ttx: sdague: fungi: tonyb: should we have maybe done the stable team session from thurs on the tuesday xp session since it's really cross-project, but not in the normal sense? | 16:15 |
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| mriedem | but it is multiple teams (stable/release/infra/qa/security) | 16:15 |
| sdague | mriedem: that might be a reasonable call | 16:16 |
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| sdague | mriedem: what is the session about though? | 16:16 |
| mriedem | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/stable-branch-eol-policy-newton | 16:16 |
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| mriedem | if there is a xp session on backward compat for lifeless, i could see ^ piggy backing on that | 16:17 |
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| fungi | ttx: sdague: fungi: tonyb: i'm fine with it moving to the cross-project day. we've waffled from time to time as to how many projects make something cross-project | 16:18 |
| fungi | heh, i replied to myself there. whee! | 16:18 |
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| sdague | fungi: we have, I'd rather make that a decision in the selection process instead of self censoring | 16:19 |
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| openstackgerrit | Shamail Tahir proposed openstack/governance: Fix projects.yaml path in validate_tags https://review.openstack.org/298534 | 17:18 |
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| annegentle | sdague: auggy: whew, finally figured out how to get all 223 operations migrated, I think | 17:59 |
| annegentle | patching now | 17:59 |
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| sdague | annegentle: nice | 18:00 |
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| auggy | hooray! | 18:01 |
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| auggy | yeah i showed her the magic of the visual debugger ;D | 18:01 |
| annegentle | :) | 18:01 |
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| mylu | Hi guys I have some questions regarding to tempest.lib.services can someone point me a direction of who should I talk to? Thanks! | 18:02 |
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| lifeless | dims_: jroll: dhellmann: So the intent is to have projects vote on constraints changes | 18:16 |
| lifeless | it just turned out to need some infra work to define jobs that don't assume their project is the one changing | 18:16 |
| lifeless | (like devstack, but for non devstack tests) | 18:17 |
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| dims_ | lifeless : ah interesting, anyone picking up that work lifeless ? | 18:27 |
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| annegentle | sdague: and auggy: ok, looking at how many WADLs have to change, it might be better to modify fairy-slipper to output the RST and directives we want. It's nearly there, and Karen sees it's possible. Would fairy-slipper be a better substitute than wadl2rst? | 18:36 |
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| auggy | annegentle: i'm not really sure at this point since i don't know much about fairy-slipper | 18:37 |
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| annegentle | darn I wish Karen was on IRC.... hm | 18:38 |
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| auggy | annegentle: if it's nearly there, then that's probably the best option | 18:38 |
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| auggy | at least for first pass | 18:38 |
| annegentle | auggy: I'm looking at fairy-slipper code to see if I see the path to show it to you | 18:38 |
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| auggy | the point of this is to get a sense of the workflow and then identify any rough spots | 18:38 |
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| auggy | so i am cool with sticking with fairy-slipper, at least we'll have an idea of how difficult it would be to further modify it if we find we need to beyond our first pass requirements | 18:39 |
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| annegentle | auggy: basically just make this script so that it outputs the RST that fits sdague's directives https://github.com/openstack/fairy-slipper/blob/master/fairy_slipper/cmd/swagger_to_rst.py | 18:40 |
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| auggy | what's the input to the fairy-slipper script? it looks like it expects swagger? | 18:42 |
| annegentle | auggy: it takes wadl+docbook | 18:42 |
| auggy | ah ok | 18:42 |
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| annegentle | auggy: and outputs "swagger-ish" plus "actual swagger" and RST | 18:42 |
| auggy | annegentle: i can poke around and see if it would work | 18:43 |
| annegentle | auggy: plus you get openstack patches :) | 18:43 |
| annegentle | auggy: if you could take a look it would be great, I'll send an email to you and Karen outlining the idea | 18:43 |
| auggy | kk | 18:43 |
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| auggy | annegentle: also include sdague on that | 18:45 |
| annegentle | auggy: yeah | 18:45 |
| annegentle | auggy: oh cool she just wrote me back on another thread saying she's nearly got it with the yaml | 18:45 |
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| annegentle | danggg :) | 18:45 |
| annegentle | now really need to synch up :) | 18:45 |
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| sdague | annegentle: does karen do hangouts? it might be nice to just quick sync tomorrow or friday if so | 18:49 |
| sdague | because all the pieces are definitely starting to converge here | 18:50 |
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| annegentle | sdague: yeah sure can, just sent an email and hopefully we can meet tomorrow or Friday | 18:50 |
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| annegentle | sdague: reply back with some suggested times and we can do it | 18:50 |
| sdague | honestly, at this point, I would suggest once the generated files are starting to look good, to dump them into the nova api-ref tree | 18:50 |
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| sdague | which will demonstrate them getting rendered | 18:50 |
| annegentle | yeah I think that's a good diea | 18:50 |
| annegentle | idea even | 18:50 |
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| auggy | thanks annegentle ! | 18:59 |
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| lifeless | dims_: not yet, fungi had a brief stab, I had a brief stab, but noone has had time to follow all the way through | 19:28 |
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| fungi | Nakato and jesusaur have been hacking on getting post pipeline support into zuul-cloner, which is the main missing piece | 19:28 |
| fungi | oh, wait, on the running more projects' jobs front you mean, not the running constraints-based jobs in other pipelines thing | 19:29 |
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| fungi | yeah, we need different versions of those jobs which can run changes proposed to another repo (in this case the requirements repo) | 19:30 |
| lifeless | fungi: yeah, on openstack/requirements changes | 19:30 |
| lifeless | fungi: the post pipeline support is also constraints related and very important | 19:30 |
| lifeless | but separate | 19:30 |
| fungi | our typical job templates for things like unit tests naively assume the change being tested determines the project being tested | 19:30 |
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| lifeless | yeah | 19:30 |
| lifeless | I'd kindof like to just change the typical templates | 19:31 |
| lifeless | but - shrug, one thing at a time | 19:31 |
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| clarkb | I think there is a much simpler solution here | 19:40 |
| clarkb | just add the nova unittests and neutron unittests to requirements | 19:40 |
| clarkb | as long as they already use constraints this should just work (tm) | 19:41 |
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| clarkb | which is sort of what I tried to explain a little while back, the cross testing of requirements and something that uses requirements is mostly done. Its just the extra transitive leap to testing additional libs all together in one go | 19:44 |
| clarkb | er its just that additional transitive leap that isn't done | 19:45 |
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| jasond | hi, how often does olso.service release a new version? i'm interested in using https://github.com/openstack/oslo.service/commit/c2e647876126e7860b2cbdbc423d7583b42b7451 in heat, but it hasn't been released yet | 21:06 |
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| clarkb | harlowja: dims_ ^ | 21:13 |
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| rockyg | jasond, usually the libs come out fairly frequently, but we're in the midst of the Mitaka final bits for release, so lots of stuff is frozen. As soon as the release happens, it's likely to be released. Think somewhere soon after 4/7 | 21:13 |
| dims_ | rockyg : he's dropped off | 21:13 |
| rockyg | Dang. Did I get the answer right, though, dims_ ? | 21:14 |
| dims_ | rockyg : nope. 10 seconds late :) | 21:14 |
| dims_ | oh. yes of course | 21:14 |
| dims_ | rockyg : answer is right i mean | 21:15 |
| rockyg | Oh, good. I try to be helpful and offload from you guys when I can. | 21:15 |
| dims_ | thanks rockyg | 21:16 |
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| coreycb | EmilienM, sahara 1:4.0.0~rc1-3 failed to build earlier as it needed a new dependency. I've just uploaded that dependency so it should be ok shortly. | 22:33 |
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| tonyb | mriedem, ttx: Just tell me where and when the bus will be and I'll be there :) | 22:35 |
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