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anteayatonyb: I would like to have the yaml file include a line for identifying that the meetings the week of summit will be cancelled, as well as having them not appear on the ical feed for that week: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/#Third_Party_Meeting13:27
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anteayatonyb: I'm open to suggestions on how to achieve that goal13:27
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sdaguegordc: I actually removed it from project config instead16:33
sdaguebecause it should be in the grenade plugin, so that it can be used locally16:33
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gordcsdague: was just looking at your code... a little behind on my debugging. :)16:36
sdagueyep, no worries16:37
sdaguecdent did a good job of narrowing this all down yesterday16:37
sdagueso I wanted to see if we could get it across the finish line today16:37
sdagueit's close16:37
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gordcsdague: yeah, he's off the next few days16:38
gordcsdague: thanks for the help.16:38
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sdagueah, ok, I didn't realize16:39
sdagueyeh, there is a good chance with this last round of changes it will work16:39
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sdagueI guess we'll know in about an hour16:39
gordcsdague: sounds good. i'll track it as well (after i get some food)16:40
sdaguecool, enjoy16:40
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sdaguegordc: this looks very promissing - https://jenkins03.openstack.org/job/gate-grenade-dsvm-ceilometer/176/console17:37
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sdagueit got through shutdown correctly17:37
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gordcsdague: \o/17:50
gordcwill fast approve once it clears.17:50
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sdagueit depends on a grenade patch, let me make sure we land that17:50
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gordcsdague: yep.17:51
sdagueare you folks also going to enforce kilo -> liberty?17:51
sdaguebasically, should I backport the grenade bit17:51
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sdagueit just passed completely, now in artifact upload17:52
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gordcsdague: we're discussing the scope of what to test once we have everything enabled in-tree17:52
gordcwe don't have firm plans yet to do kilo -> liberty specifically17:52
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sdagueok17:53
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sdaguemaybe I'll hold off on the backport until you or another team pushes for it17:53
sdaguejust to reduce churn17:53
gordcsdague: we'll probably copy over what we had originally... which i believe was very minimal17:53
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gordcsdague: sounds good to me.17:53
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sdaguegordc: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/230984/ is in the gate now18:54
sdaguethe ball is in your court18:55
gordcsdague: cool stuff. thanks again for the help18:55
sdagueno prob18:55
sdaguemost of the credit goes to cdent for pushing through on all of this18:55
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stevemar_ttx: sdague have the topics for the fishbowl sessions been selected?19:37
sdaguestevemar_: for what?19:37
sdaguecross project?19:37
stevemar_sdague: ugh, yes. i forgot to mention that19:37
sdagueno, that's next monday19:37
ttxstill being collecetd at odsreg.openstack.org19:37
sdagueflaper87 set a really late date on it19:37
sdaguestevemar_: you considering a submission?19:39
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stevemar_sdague: yep, i created http://odsreg.openstack.org/cfp/details/2519:52
stevemar_good to see the catalog one is there too19:52
stevemar_how many x-project slots are there?19:52
sdaguettx ^^^ ?19:52
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ttxlet me check19:53
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ttxhttps://mitakadesignsummit.sched.org/overview/type/cross+project+workshops shows 2119:54
stevemar_ttx: so i just edit the http://design-summit-prep.openstack.org/ and it gets mirrored on sched?! that is awesome19:54
stevemar_nice19:54
ttxstevemar_: I know, right19:54
stevemar_thats sweet19:54
stevemar_expect the keystone ones by end of day, we more or less decided at our meeting today19:55
ttxsdague: the 3 at 2pm have no ops sessions against them so we should schedule things that could be interesting to them as well on those slots19:55
sdaguettx: yeh, sounds reasonable19:56
stevemar_ttx: so last summit, each project had a dedicate ops fishbowl, are we doing that again?19:56
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sdaguestevemar_: I hope not, the nova one was 10 nova core and 3 operators. Not very helpful.19:56
ttxstevemar_: that was opt-in19:56
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ttxsdague: apparently some ops sessions (on the ops track) in YVR only had 3 people show up, so not sure that was personal19:57
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ttxwe have taken steps to make sure they find their way this time19:57
stevemar_sdague: ttx okay, yeah - last summit was 12 devs vs 2 ops19:57
ttxand by we I mean fifieldt19:57
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sdaguettx: right, I'm just saying that from the last time around, those sessions just weren't attended19:58
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sdagueand because of that we should not do them unless we think we know why and it will change19:58
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lifelessflaper87: ttx: I'm very interested in the cross project selection21:01
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lifelessflaper87: ttx: can we do it basically at the time of our normal meeting?21:01
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annegentlelifeless: ttx: flaper87: I'd like that also if possible21:02
flaper87lifeless: I guess we could, I think that should work for all TC memers (to some definition of work since it's 5 am here).21:02
ttxI'm fine deferring to you guys if I'm the only one making it eu-friendly21:02
dhellmannsure, that works for me21:02
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lifelessflaper87: I can do up to 2 hours earlier21:02
lifelessflaper87: or later21:03
lifelessflaper87: the tc meeting was my 090021:03
ttxI have a bunch of proposals there, so me voting on them feels a bit weird anyway21:03
flaper87later would be bad for ttx21:03
dhellmannI have a conflict 2 hours before our usual time but could do it 1 hour before21:03
ttxflaper87: don't take me into account21:03
ttxI'll be there if I can21:03
flaper87ok, lets do it 1h later if that works21:03
flaper87dhellmann: lifeless annegentle ^21:04
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dhellmann1 hour later than our usual time?21:04
flaper87yes21:04
lifelessso e.g. now ?21:04
dhellmannI think that works21:04
lifelessbut on monday ?21:04
flaper87yes21:04
flaper87yes21:04
lifelessworks for me21:04
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flaper87nice!21:05
ttxflaper87: post time to openstack-tc21:05
flaper87ttx: yup, almost on it21:05
ttxI'll join if I can, or I'll heavily use mental waves to influence you from my sleep.21:05
ttxboth work21:05
annegentleok, monday works, thanks21:05
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jlvillalsdague: Any chance you could release a new version of the amt library?21:10
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tonybanteaya: Hmm that's an interesting idea.  I'll see if I can free up some time to enable that in yaml2ical.  If that dosn't happen then the fallback would be to just add somethign to the description..21:41
anteayahi21:42
anteayatonyb: yeah, thought as much but wanted to see if we could take a run at removing canceled meetings from the ical21:42
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anteayatonyb: tried to look at the repo today but kept getting distracted21:43
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tonybanteaya: Well my (half implemented) idea is to allow us to add an enddate to a meeting.21:43
tonybanteaya: (oh and a startdate)21:43
anteayawould that remove the meeting entirely from the ical?21:43
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tonybanteaya: then one yaml file could contain multiple schedules21:44
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anteayaI just would like to remove one date21:44
anteayayou know the design best21:44
tonybanteaya: all instance after end date would go.21:44
tonybanteaya: it would allow use to21:44
anteayabut I want the message to be, meetings are continuing, just not this one21:44
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tonyb1) keep historical records21:44
tonyb2) put meeting scheuleing changes in place without a "race" ; and21:45
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anteayaI think I am concerned enddate would send the wrong message21:45
tonyb3) allow us to skip a week (or several)21:45
anteayacan I have cancelleddate?21:45
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* anteaya is picky21:45
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tonybanteaya: that's waaaay harder with the current implementation and I'd need to look at ical to see if that's supported.21:46
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tonybanteaya: let me mock up a yaml file for you.21:46
anteayaunder no circumstances do I want anyone to think the meetings are not continuing21:46
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* anteaya let's tonyb mock up a yaml file21:46
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tonybanteaya: Somethign like: http://paste.openstack.org/show/475520/21:49
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* anteaya clicks21:49
tonybanteaya: so to consumers of the iCal feed it'll just look like the meetings the week of summit were deleted21:49
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tonybanteaya: note I made up the dates and they could be wrong but I hope you get the idea21:50
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anteayaright21:51
anteayay'know what I think will happen21:51
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anteayafolks will submit patches, they will get merged and then they will be upset because they made a mistake21:51
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anteayaI totally see so much room for mistake in this approach21:51
anteaya:(21:51
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anteayaand either wiped themselves off of ical21:52
anteayaor removed meetings they didn't mean to remove21:52
tonybYeah I can see that but I figure it's part of my role to make sure that doesn't happen.21:53
anteayawow21:53
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anteayabig shoulders you have21:53
anteayaokey dokey21:53
anteayayou are the ptl21:53
tonybno that's ttx21:53
anteayaah big shoulders he has21:53
tonybI'm a drone from sector 7G21:53
anteayagood call21:54
tonyb:D21:54
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anteayaso what needs to happen so I can submit what you gave me as a patch21:54
* anteaya will make tonyb co-author21:54
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tonybanteaya: I'll go read up on the iCal RFC and see if there is a way to skip a given instance21:54
tonybanteaya: well right now yaml2ical doesn't support that21:54
tonybanteaya: sorry if I implied it did.21:54
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tonybanteaya: I need to tidy my half implementation and publish it.21:55
anteayathanks21:55
anteayayes, that was what you said21:55
anteayayou had a half implementation21:55
tonybanteaya: okay21:55
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anteayaso cool21:55
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anteayalet me know if I can review anything21:55
anteayathank you21:55
anteaya:)21:55
tonybanteaya: Thanks I will :)21:56
anteaya:)21:56
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* tonyb opens the iCal RFC21:56
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tonybanteaya: Oh look at that there is an iCal tag to do what you want.  Let me see if I can expose that.21:58
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anteayawoooooo21:58
anteayasomeone thought of me!21:58
tonybanteaya: so what shoudl the yaml tag be? "skip_date", "cancel_date", somethign else?22:00
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anteayaskip_date is my vote22:01
anteayanice and friendly like22:01
anteayalike children playing in the back yard22:01
anteayaor at your house22:01
anteaya:)22:01
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tonybanteaya: cool.22:01
* tonyb writes the implementation.22:02
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anteayathank you22:03
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