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| eezhova | ianw, Hi! Could you please take a look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/201914/9 ? The author has resolved all comments so perhaps this change is ready to be merged? | 11:40 |
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| mtreinish | ttx: I had a question about the deprecation tag, for a bunch of qa projects we follow the policy in the tag doc | 15:16 |
| mtreinish | but one of the requirements was automated testing to verify forward compat | 15:17 |
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| mtreinish | is that necessary for libs too? | 15:17 |
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| mtreinish | because something like tempest-lib is kinda tricky to do that with since it's mostly consumed by tempest which is branchless | 15:18 |
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| mrkz | "ERROR: License 'Muddy-MIT' is not an allowed SPDX license ID" | 15:48 |
| mrkz | duh, sorry for the spam | 15:48 |
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| ttx | mtreinish: policy doesn't apply to libs yet | 15:49 |
| ttx | mtreinish: there is a provision for that in the tag doc | 15:49 |
| ttx | mtreinish: at this stage we are looking at applying it to type:service things only | 15:50 |
| mtreinish | ttx: ah, ok. I must of missed that when I skimmed through it | 15:50 |
| ttx | mtreinish: we'll refine what it means for libs afterwards and reuse it, hopefully | 15:50 |
| mtreinish | ok, then I'll hold off on pushing a patch to apply it to anything qa | 15:50 |
| ttx | mtreinish: but there is a longer discussion to be had about backward-compat in libs first | 15:50 |
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| ttx | which lifeless started in an openstack-secs if you're interested | 15:51 |
| mtreinish | cool, I'll take a look at that | 15:51 |
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| jlvillal | dhellmann: Is there still a freeze on global-requirements? | 17:01 |
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| jlvillal | dhellmann: In regards to: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/220268/ | 17:02 |
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| ayoung | flaper87, trying to move a packstack deployment from using the [default] setion values for messaging to the [oslo_messaging_amqp] values. There any docs on that? | 17:26 |
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| jroll | jlvillal: you'll know it's unfrozen when you see a stable/liberty branch existing on g-r, which a few hours ago did not exist | 17:54 |
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| jlvillal | jroll: Ah, thanks for the pointer. | 17:54 |
| jroll | np | 17:55 |
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| AJaeger | Hi everyone, I have a question on repository layout. do we have any convention on where to place the python files? I see them in nova repo in nova directory - and similar in others. But I just found networking-hyperv repo and hyperv directory. Is that ok - or should this get changed? | 18:00 |
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| clarkb | AJaeger: the clients do it to by removing the python- prefix, its ok as long as the setup.py name is configured correctly (from a technical standpoint) | 18:01 |
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| AJaeger | clarkb: setup.py looks fine | 18:01 |
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| AJaeger | clarkb: you mean setup.cfg | 18:02 |
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| AJaeger | thanks, clarkb | 18:05 |
| clarkb | ya | 18:05 |
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| lifeless | mtreinish: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/226157/ | 18:46 |
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| penick | alaski: Hey, so on that ‘compute api | 19:26 |
| penick | alaski: Hey, so on that ‘compute api’ thread: When you reference VM, do you mean VM and other forms of compute. Or are you thinking about Nova only in terms of VMs? | 19:27 |
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| alaski | penick: oh, I mean all forms of compute | 19:28 |
| alaski | containers, baremetal, the whole shebang | 19:28 |
| penick | Cool. Just making sure :) I noticed everyone was saying VM, wanted to make sure I didn’t misstate my point | 19:28 |
| penick | danke | 19:28 |
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| alaski | yeah, we should probably say 'instance' these days | 19:32 |
| penick | that’s what I do inside of Yahoo. I say ‘instance’ or ‘compute resource’ to help break the mental barrier people have between VMs and Baremetal | 19:33 |
| penick | Re: drawing the line between services. You raise a good point. some places seem obvious. Nova should ask Neutron to create a port in a provider network, but it shouldn’t ask Neutron to create a provider network. That wouldn’t make sense. | 19:34 |
| penick | The cinder boot from volume case is weird. But, i suspect that if there was an API call in cinder for “create a volume and associate it with this instance”, then that would probably cover that case. | 19:35 |
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| alaski | yeah, the boot from volume case is odd. it does seem that some of this is due to historical accident with how the projects evolved out of Nova and a reluctance to remove the proxy bits | 19:45 |
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| dhellmann | jlvillal: yes, we're still in freeze for another day or two | 20:23 |
| jlvillal | dhellmann: Thank you | 20:23 |
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| dhellmann | jlvillal: we'll announce the thaw on the dev list, and I'll remove my -2s on those patches | 20:23 |
| jlvillal | dhellmann: Great :) | 20:24 |
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| dims | dhellmann: sdague: the python3 devstack patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/181165/ seems to be working :) Sirushti has a review that tests heat with it | 20:37 |
| dhellmann | dims: wonderful! | 20:38 |
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| sdague | dims: ok, there is one clever bit in there I think we should either comment or do less clever | 20:47 |
| sdague | let me figure out if there is a simpler thing | 20:47 |
| dims | sdague: ack, it's a | 20:47 |
| xarses | With regards to projects moving into big tent, is it necessary for it to require CLA? | 20:48 |
| dims | community patch :) so feel free to update it directly or leave me notes. dhellmann started it and Sirushti and i have been trading reviews | 20:48 |
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| dims | xarses: CLA is an artifact of how the infrastructure is setup up currently. there is an effort sdague and others are leading to switch over to DCO | 20:50 |
| dims | (from what i understand) | 20:50 |
| anteaya | dims: which has not yet gone through | 20:50 |
| dhellmann | xarses: projects that want to eventually become official projects will have an easier time if they use the CLA from the beginning. as dims says we're trying to remove it, but it's still necessary for now. | 20:50 |
| dims | anteaya: right | 20:50 |
| anteaya | so current CLA is required | 20:50 |
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| dhellmann | anteaya: only for official projects, iiuc | 20:50 |
| anteaya | s/current/currently | 20:50 |
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| xarses | and how are we supposed to deal with a project without CLA moving in? | 20:51 |
| anteaya | dhellmann: yes, my reading of xarses was for projects moving into the big tent | 20:51 |
| dhellmann | anteaya: big tent != official status, though | 20:51 |
| anteaya | xarses: so far I don't know of a work flow | 20:51 |
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| dims | xarses: is the project under Apache License 2.0? | 20:51 |
| xarses | yes | 20:51 |
| dhellmann | xarses: do you have any contributors who have not signed the cla for some other reason? | 20:51 |
| dims | xarses: that will work per terms of Apache License | 20:51 |
| xarses | https://github.com/stackforge/puppet-ceph | 20:51 |
| anteaya | dhellmann: oh? I have been understanding that people mean becoming an official openstack project when they use the slang "move into the big tent" | 20:52 |
| xarses | dhellmann: wasn't required so, its possible | 20:52 |
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| xarses | anteaya: ya, that was part of my understating | 20:52 |
| anteaya | dhellmann: my read of "move into the big tent" == become an official openstack project | 20:52 |
| dhellmann | anteaya: ah, maybe it's how others are using it | 20:52 |
| anteaya | dhellmann: how are you using it? | 20:53 |
| dhellmann | xarses: check, because if that's not the case it'll be easier to retroactively apply it, but you may also want to bring this up on the legal-discuss mailing list http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/legal-discuss | 20:53 |
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| dhellmann | anteaya: it seems a bit vague to me, so I prefer to be explicit when talking about official projects | 20:54 |
| dhellmann | esp. now that we're not using the stackforge prefix | 20:54 |
| anteaya | dhellmann: oh no argument from me on being explict | 20:54 |
| xarses | dhellmann: my understanding with the repo is just because its in openstack/* its not official | 20:55 |
| anteaya | folks take phrases out of context all the time and reuse them confusing the meaning | 20:55 |
| dhellmann | xarses: that's correct | 20:55 |
| xarses | but moving to big-tent means you are becoming official | 20:55 |
| xarses | the two are separate | 20:55 |
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| anteaya | xarses: dhellmann's point is that how you are using "big-tent" | 20:55 |
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| anteaya | xarses: and that dhellmann is finding folks using that term when he would prefer they be more explicit | 20:56 |
| xarses | ya, mine is submitting to become an official project | 20:56 |
| anteaya | so accurate information is conveyed | 20:56 |
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| sdague | dims: ok, review comments added | 20:59 |
| dims | thanks sdague | 20:59 |
| sdague | I tried to be pretty specific on the only blocker for me | 20:59 |
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