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| rebase33 | Looking at DevStack - is it really a virtualized Openstack dev environment? | 04:27 |
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| mzoo | Hi there. My git review command pop ups this message: "We don't know where your gerrit is. Please manually create a remote". Can somebody help? Thanks in advance, | 05:43 |
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| mzoo | Can someone help? | 05:49 |
| rebase33 | ohhh shit | 05:50 |
| rebase33 | gotcha | 05:50 |
| rebase33 | sorry wrong room | 05:50 |
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| mzoo | The error message I got when run git review: We don't know where your gerrit is. Please manually create a remote". | 05:52 |
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| Mzoo | Hi there. I executed git review command but I got an error: "error: failed to push some refs to ..." How can I fix it? | 06:14 |
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| sdague | jgriffith: it wasn't a challenge thing, it was just a realization it really didn't need to be in the minimal set | 11:19 |
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| sdague | and, on ramping it as an expansion later is pretty straight forward. So no real concerns in not having it in the starter kit, as the expand into that function later is quite straight forward | 11:20 |
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| pelix | where someone is submitting a change not originally authored by them, but with the authors permission (author has not signed contributors agreement), is there anything we need from the author? | 13:28 |
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| jgriffith | sdague: ahh, ok... that makes sense | 14:57 |
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| sdague | jgriffith: yeh, just trying to sort out the smallest viable seed corn that's expandable into more of openstack from there. Poking at lot at a single node test system around this using what we give to our users for documentation. Been an interesting experience. | 14:59 |
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| jgriffith | sdague: I think that's a good perspective personally | 15:00 |
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| jgriffith | sdague: agree on the smallest viable aspect of it. | 15:01 |
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| sdague | right, especially when the expansion is pretty straight forward. That's where the nova-net vs. neutron for network base gets complicated, because there is no move strategy that works inline. So a minimal neutron setup, like I think we have in the provider + LB, fits better. Just all the ducks aren't quite in a row there. | 15:02 |
| mriedem | mordred: can you give me auth to create releaes and milestones in launchpad for sqlalchemy-migrate? https://launchpad.net/sqlalchemy-migrate | 15:02 |
| jgriffith | sdague: the conflict though is networking is pretty darn essential.. but the solution we're driving towards isn't exactly "smallest viable" solution there | 15:03 |
| sdague | but addind cinder later, pretty straight forward | 15:03 |
| sdague | as is swift, heat, and just about all the rest of it | 15:03 |
| jgriffith | sdague: I would agree with that | 15:03 |
| jgriffith | sdague: I've also been thinking more about my thoughts on neutron/nova-net | 15:03 |
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| jgriffith | sdague: I still have issues with neutron, but the reality is that's the future. The longer we stay in this limbo the worse, and I'm probably doing more harm than good by raising objections and questions about it | 15:04 |
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| jgriffith | s/thoughts/position/ | 15:04 |
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| sdague | yeh, complexity is definitely a concern. I think that a bunch of folks did a lot of great work over the last 6 months documenting out the provider network + LB model, which is a much more minimal complexity add. | 15:05 |
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| sdague | anyway, I need to rereplicate my env with that too to kick the tires a bit. Just for educational purposes. | 15:07 |
| jgriffith | sdague: I tried it last night and still hit the same issues I typically run into. | 15:07 |
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| jgriffith | sdague: it is much easier to follow (emphasis on "ier") and is great progress | 15:07 |
| jgriffith | sdague: but for non-networking people it's still pretty easy to mess up | 15:08 |
| jgriffith | sdague: I have a networking engineer in the office that knows nothing about OpenStack; I've asked him to take a look as a "test subject" to see if he can get it working and it makes sense | 15:08 |
| jgriffith | since it's honestly a bit out of my strength area | 15:09 |
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| sdague | jgriffith: that's fair | 15:11 |
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| sdague | I'll admit I hadn't gone through the manual instructions in forever, because I'm nearly always doing devstack oriented stuff | 15:12 |
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| sdague | been pretty interesting | 15:12 |
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| jgriffith | sdague: manual has improved over the releases as well | 15:13 |
| jgriffith | sdague: it's still "not easy" but it's much improved over say Havana | 15:13 |
| sdague | so one thing that I realized in going through it, was that at the end of every component install there is a section on verifying that component is working | 15:14 |
| jgriffith | right? | 15:14 |
| sdague | it would be kind of nice if every component shipped a $foo-status cli program | 15:14 |
| jgriffith | sdague: that's a great idea | 15:14 |
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| jgriffith | sdague: so that section become "run foo" | 15:14 |
| sdague | yep | 15:14 |
| jgriffith | I'm on board with that | 15:14 |
| sdague | that would also make for a basis of nagios scripts or the like | 15:15 |
| jgriffith | Happy to make it happen in Cinder for Liberty | 15:15 |
| jgriffith | sdague: yeah, hadn't even thought of things like nagios monitors | 15:15 |
| jgriffith | sdague: neat idea | 15:16 |
| sdague | yeh, it's probably worth figuring out some parameters to make these useful. I'm sort of buried today, but later in the week do you want to hack out an etherpad with some guidelines on scripts like this, and we can see if we can get more people to bite | 15:16 |
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| jgriffith | sdague: maybe friday? if not early next week works | 15:17 |
| sdague | friday sounds good, I'll find you in the morning | 15:17 |
| jgriffith | sdague: sounds good... thanks, catch ya then | 15:17 |
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| kashyap | sdague: Was reading the scroll a bit here, the "manual instructions" part you say above | 15:24 |
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| kashyap | . . .is laboriously configuring each component by hand I presume? | 15:24 |
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| sdague | kashyap: it's following the install guide - http://docs.openstack.org/ | 15:25 |
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| kashyap | sdague: Yeah, noted. When I began I used to do something like that. Setup minimal OpenStack in VMs with nested virt -- https://kashyapc.fedorapeople.org/virt/openstack/rdo/Minimal-OpenStack-IceHouse-setup.rst.txt | 15:26 |
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| kashyap | sdague: Purely for the purpose of gaining a little insight into debugging the darn thing by myself :-) | 15:26 |
| kashyap | And, indeed as you said above, since I began using DevStack heavily, never tried the othery way again. | 15:27 |
| sdague | sure, I've used packstack before, and puppet raw, and obviously devstack. But there is something about following the base instructions we give in the community. Lots of people do try to use those. | 15:27 |
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| kashyap | sdague: Absolutely. In fact that's what I argued as one of the best ways for new folks to try. Hand configure everything, every config attribute | 15:28 |
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| mriedem | TrevorV: zigo: sdague: bombs away on sqla-migrate 0.9.7 | 15:45 |
| TrevorV | Thank you so much mriedem | 15:45 |
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| zigo | mriedem: Did you just release 0.9.7? | 15:51 |
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| zigo | mriedem: Since it supports SQLA 1.0, it should have been called 1.0 as well, at least this was the policy for the last few years. | 15:52 |
| zigo | Thanks a lot for this release though. | 15:52 |
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| mriedem | zigo: yeah i released 0.9.7, did'nt think about the uncapped sqlalchemy | 15:54 |
| mriedem | zigo: i could do a 1.0 | 15:54 |
| zigo | As you like. | 15:54 |
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| mriedem | i guess in my mind i was thinking we do 1.0 when we drop support for like sqla 0.7/0.8 | 15:54 |
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| mriedem | if that ever happens | 15:55 |
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| sdague | mriedem: sounds good to me | 15:58 |
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| johnthetubaguy | thingee: hi, are you still free for a quick sync up? | 16:17 |
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| med_ | ttx how is Meiji pronounced and is it the final selection for "M"? Conflicting reports on the interweb. | 16:24 |
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| ryansb | med_: it seems the choice to use Meiji has been retracted (according to http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-July/068935.html ) | 16:26 |
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| thingee | johnthetubaguy: yes, but I believe we have 42 mins before then? 17:00 utc | 16:28 |
| med_ | thanks ryanb | 16:28 |
| med_ | so I'll "stay tuned" | 16:28 |
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| thingee | johnthetubaguy: if we need to start now though, I can wrap some stuff up. | 16:29 |
| johnthetubaguy | thingee: ah, yes, sorry, that explains why my reminder didn't pop up yet, cool | 16:29 |
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| johnthetubaguy | thingee: no problems, just ping when it makes sense, doing some doc stuff that I can drop when its easiest | 16:29 |
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| ttx | med_: it was officially recalled by the naming official. | 16:39 |
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| med_ | understand. I was pointed to the thread. My apologies for the confusion. Too many streams of info this a.m. | 16:40 |
| med_ | (a.m. here) | 16:40 |
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| sigmavirus24 | jogo: ping | 16:43 |
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| jogo | sigmavirus24: pong | 16:57 |
| sigmavirus24 | Is there a reason why the localization check requires a string and won't accept a variable? | 16:58 |
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| sigmavirus24 | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/199595/ was me trying to consolidate some logic in cinderclient but it raises a H701 since it isn't using a string-literal with text | 16:59 |
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| shaleh | for instance, openstack service list --help does not show the --format option | 17:21 |
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| shaleh | it shows the possible list of commands and the --os-* parameters | 17:21 |
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| jogo | which line? | 17:43 |
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| jogo | I don't think i18n is smart enough to handle variables? not sure | 17:43 |
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| jogo | sigmavirus24: there is no 701 in trunk hacking hmm | 17:44 |
| jogo | woops github search si bad | 17:45 |
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| jdandrea | Trying to launch devstack and getting a update clouds.yaml file error. Any thoughts? http://paste.openstack.org/show/356120/ | 19:08 |
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| jdandrea | Looks like --os-password has nothing specified but I don't get why. | 19:08 |
| jdandrea | Ah, adding ADMIN_PASSWORD. | 19:10 |
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| mriedem | bknudson: jecarey: totally called it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ueR6_ipaw4g | 19:39 |
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| bknudson | mriedem: you did. I don't know if that's a good thing. | 19:52 |
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| whitebyte | I am good with python and databases. Can you point me to the projects which require Python and database skills ? | 20:02 |
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