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| leseb_ | dtroyer: ping | 16:10 |
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| dtroyer | leseb_: hi | 16:12 |
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| leseb_ | dtroyer: hey, one quick question about devstack ceph, will you still accept patches? or will you encourage me to put it outside devstack? | 16:13 |
| leseb_ | (thing that I'm currently doing anyway, but I was just curious :)) | 16:14 |
| leseb_ | to hear your thoughts about this | 16:14 |
| dtroyer | I would prefer it be moved to an external plugin, but if there are blocking bugs we'll take them | 16:14 |
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| leseb_ | I believe this should work, hitting a bug on project infra at the moment for setting up the new project, but once it's done I'll perform some test | 16:15 |
| leseb_ | and then will send a PR to remove ceph | 16:15 |
| dtroyer | ok, good to hear, thanks | 16:15 |
| leseb_ | ;) | 16:15 |
| dhellmann | dtroyer: if you still want a cliff release, I can do that today | 16:16 |
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| dtroyer | dhellmann: that would be great, thanks | 16:17 |
| dhellmann | dtroyer: which sha? | 16:17 |
| dhellmann | head is fine, if you're OK with that | 16:17 |
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| dhellmann | sdague: can I get you to take a look at some requirements updates when you have a few minutes today? https://review.openstack.org/#/q/owner:%22Doug+Hellmann%22+status:open+project:openstack/requirements,n,z | 16:17 |
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| dtroyer | checking…yes, that looks good to me | 16:18 |
| dhellmann | dtroyer: ok, coming up | 16:18 |
| dtroyer | tnaks | 16:18 |
| dtroyer | or thanks even ;) | 16:18 |
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| dhellmann | dtroyer: I thought you were using some hip new form ;-) | 16:19 |
| dtroyer | me hip? ha! | 16:19 |
| dhellmann | dtroyer: does 1.13 sound right to you? | 16:20 |
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| dtroyer | dhellmann: yup | 16:20 |
| dhellmann | dtroyer: done! | 16:20 |
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| sdague | dhellmann: will do | 16:37 |
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| sdague | dhellmann: ok, we need need someone from the ceilometer team to write up UpgradeImpact from this change - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/178265/ - the oslo_middleware release just broken grenade given that we can no longer use kilo configs on liberty code with the compat layer removed (because it was not handled in kilo) | 16:45 |
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| dhellmann | sdague: does that mean we need to write more code somewhere, or documentation? | 16:48 |
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| sdague | well, the combination of timing on the ceilometer changes and the middleware release, means that ceilometer is in violation of the upgrate policy of new code works with old configs | 16:49 |
| sdague | dansmith has a work around to make grenade work again | 16:49 |
| dhellmann | dims, gordc: we'll need to do something with this ^^ | 16:50 |
| sdague | however, we only land those if there is documented release notes in the project affected about "breaking change, you must modify config the following way...." | 16:50 |
| sdague | this is the work around change - https://review.openstack.org/189808 | 16:50 |
| sdague | but this will break real people | 16:50 |
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| dhellmann | k | 16:50 |
| dhellmann | sdague: for my edification, where are these instructions written up? I can just keep asking you questions, but it'd be faster for me to read... | 16:51 |
| * dhellmann finds no hits on UpgradeImpact with wiki search | 16:52 | |
| sdague | they aren't, it's about 30 on my list for an upgrade compat set of tags | 16:52 |
| dhellmann | ah, ok | 16:52 |
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| dhellmann | so who's policy are you referring to about not landing changes until they are documented? I want to help enforce that one :-) | 16:52 |
| sdague | oh, sorry, it's in the grenade tree now | 16:53 |
| dhellmann | are those docs published somewhere? | 16:53 |
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| sdague | https://github.com/openstack-dev/grenade/blob/master/README.rst#theory-of-upgrade | 16:53 |
| dhellmann | that's not super discoverable as a global project policy, but at least it's written down | 16:54 |
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| sdague | yeh, well, it is what it is | 16:54 |
| dhellmann | sdague: sure. Where are we keeping liberty release notes? | 16:54 |
| sdague | each project is typically responsible for their own | 16:54 |
| dansmith | someone just clones the releasenotes page early in the cycle I think right? | 16:55 |
| dansmith | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ReleaseNotes/Liberty | 16:55 |
| dansmith | not there yet | 16:55 |
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| dhellmann | dansmith: thanks | 16:57 |
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| dhellmann | dansmith, sdague: is this the sort of detail you would expect here? https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ReleaseNotes/Liberty#Upgrade_Notes | 17:06 |
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| sdague | dhellmann: yeh, that seems sufficient | 17:06 |
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| sdague | ok, approving the grenade change now | 17:07 |
| dhellmann | sdague: ty | 17:07 |
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| sdague | so, in future, the best way to approach this is if that change in ceilometer landed in kilo, so kilo wasn't using the deprecated thing this cycle. Which then lets us cull off the deprecated bits without impact. | 17:08 |
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| dhellmann | yeah, if this had to wait another cycle I'd probably just give up on the whole idea of dropping the namespace package | 17:11 |
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| thingee | dhellmann: do you remember the reason glance needs the cinderclient version bump? just want to note it in the requirements bump commit message. | 17:15 |
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| kragniz | thingee: pbr breakage | 17:16 |
| thingee | kragniz: bug? | 17:16 |
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| xbret | Hello there! Anyone knows if the Tap-as-a-service neutron-plugin (or PoC) presented by Ericsson has been released anywhere? It was pressented at the Vancouver summit. | 17:17 |
| kragniz | thingee: https://bugs.launchpad.net/glance-store/+bug/1462276 | 17:17 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1462276 in glance_store "glance_store py27 and py26 unit tests are currently broken" [Undecided,New] | 17:17 |
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| thingee | kragniz: thanks | 17:18 |
| kragniz | thingee: no problem | 17:18 |
| kragniz | thingee: thanks for the release | 17:18 |
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| krotscheck | ttx: Hey, do I need to put the CORS thing on the TC agenda? | 18:50 |
| krotscheck | ttx: Oh, nevermind, already on there. | 18:51 |
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| rcrit | sdague, ping re https://review.openstack.org/#/c/187346/ | 19:03 |
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| rcrit | ok | 20:15 |
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| krotscheck | lifeless: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/189924/ | 20:35 |
| lifeless | thanks | 20:35 |
| krotscheck | HOw's that? | 20:36 |
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| lifeless | will look after meetings | 20:36 |
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| sdague | rcrit: ok, tc meeting winding down. | 20:48 |
| sdague | mostly, I'm kind of concerned that we go down a path where the answer for using tls is to manage a ton of hard coded urls throughout your cluster | 20:48 |
| sdague | when... we've got the service catalog | 20:49 |
| rcrit | and I share your concerns | 20:49 |
| sdague | we have a central source of truth | 20:49 |
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| sdague | it's what the clients are using | 20:49 |
| rcrit | What I'd propose is to open a slew of bugs against the affected services to properly advertise their metadata | 20:49 |
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| sdague | can't we come up with a way to reconsume that? | 20:49 |
| rcrit | because it's really a server problem, they are using config values rather than dynamic ones | 20:49 |
| sdague | right | 20:50 |
| rcrit | the context of this is that I'm making another run at having SSL/TLS as a gate job. | 20:50 |
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| sdague | sure, and I appreciate that | 20:51 |
| rcrit | I've got 2 or 3 blockers left and a bunch of minor changes | 20:51 |
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| sdague | however, I'm affraid we'll do so with a very hard coded approach instead of getting to the root of the problem | 20:51 |
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| sdague | and it would be really nice to get to the root of this problem, because it also hits us with things like putting services behind haproxy | 20:51 |
| rcrit | it's true, but by the time the services get around to do it I could have another 99 bugs to fix | 20:51 |
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| rcrit | since I'm just a consumer of those options that already exist, can we use those in the short term while they fix the long term, then we can revert? | 20:52 |
| rcrit | in devstack? | 20:52 |
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| rcrit | and I agree that short term comes with a humongous asterisk | 20:53 |
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| sdague | so, I'd like to at least get the discussion rolling about what the long term solution is here before we do the quick hack | 20:53 |
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| rcrit | ok, how do we start that? By filing bugs against the services? Blueprint? | 20:54 |
| sdague | lets start with an ML discussion | 20:54 |
| sdague | and figure out what artifacts flow from it | 20:55 |
| rcrit | Ok, I'll get somethign going on openstack-devel | 20:55 |
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| sdague | rcrit: cool, thanks much | 20:55 |
| rcrit | yw | 20:55 |
| sdague | sorry for hanging you up on this a bit, but I do really want to figure out a better long game here | 20:55 |
| rcrit | that's fine, we're all working towards the same goal | 20:56 |
| sdague | yep, thanks again | 20:56 |
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