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| jhesketh | vkmc: Just caught up on this mornings infra meeting and wanted to reach out and say that I'm happy to help provide advise and mentor you but given the timezone differences it might be tricky | 01:44 |
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| jhesketh | vkmc: certainly happy to take questions on email or whenever I'm around though :-) | 01:45 |
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| vkmc | jhesketh, morning! :) | 01:45 |
| vkmc | jhesketh, thanks for that | 01:45 |
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| jhesketh | no trouble :-) | 01:46 |
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| vkmc | extra hands to help newcomers are always appreciated :) | 01:47 |
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| jhesketh | vkmc: did you have any thoughts on what you were hoping to work on? | 01:47 |
| vkmc | jhesketh, oh, I'm not an applicant... I'm one of the Outreachy coordinators | 01:47 |
| vkmc | I was looking for a mentor for someone else :D | 01:48 |
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| jhesketh | ah, my apologies | 01:48 |
| vkmc | working on Infra sounds cool though heh, I might ping you someday | 01:48 |
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| jhesketh | haha | 01:48 |
| jhesketh | contributors always welcome :-) | 01:48 |
| vkmc | yay! | 01:49 |
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| deepakcs | When i delete an entity (volume, snapshot etc) in openstack cinder (as an ex) I see that in the DB the record is present but with deleted=1. Is this the norm and if yes, why don't we just delete the record entirely ? | 09:26 |
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| jordanP | deepakcs, it's normal | 09:52 |
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| jordanP | that's called soft-delete | 09:52 |
| jordanP | we keep the record in DB for auditing purpose | 09:52 |
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| deepakcs | jordanP, and when does it actually get deleted ? | 10:02 |
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| jordanP | deepakcs, never, it's up to you :) I least I am not aware of a mechanism in openstack cinder to delete this rows automatically | 10:03 |
| deepakcs | jordanP, ok, thanks for the info | 10:03 |
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| jordanP | with nova you have "nova-manage db archive_deleted_rows" but I heard bad thing about it | 10:04 |
| jordanP | mostly bugs | 10:04 |
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| deepakcs | jordanP, for cinder its cinder-manage db purge [-h] age_in_days | 10:15 |
| jordanP | deepakcs, thanks. I didn't know that | 10:15 |
| deepakcs | :) | 10:15 |
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| chmouel | dtroyer: it's idle :( | 11:28 |
| chmouel | didn't find a way to get people interested by it | 11:29 |
| chmouel | and it's overlapping with docker-compose/fig | 11:29 |
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| dhellmann | breton: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/release-tools/tree/release_notes.py#n29 | 13:02 |
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| rlrevell | does anyone know if https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nova-compute/+bug/1352579 is ubuntu specific or an upstream nova-compute issue? | 13:47 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1352579 in nova-compute (Ubuntu) "lxc instance termination error: permission denied when killing a process" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 13:47 |
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| rlrevell | the root cause seems to be that nova-compute is not using rootwrap to kill the dhclient process | 13:47 |
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| dtroyer | chmouel: thanks, I wondered if that might have been the case | 14:09 |
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| chmouel | dtroyer: i think there may be useful use case if it was a direct translation from tox.ini targets to run, so instead of running virtualenvs we run in containers | 14:10 |
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| chmouel | and metadatas of how to run under a container engine could be specified as well directly in tox.ini without having to reinventing its own format for that (dox.yml) | 14:11 |
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| jdandrea | Is anyone aware of devstack not working with Heat in the master branch? (I inquired with the Heat team as well.) http://paste.openstack.org/show/205102/ | 14:12 |
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| dtroyer | chmouel: I'm looking for the 'right' way to do Go testing in the gate and build+test containers is already their pattern | 14:17 |
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| dtroyer | plus it might open the door to re-using CI VMs in some instances, cutting down on the churn | 14:18 |
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| chmouel | dtroyer: ah i see, yeah it is and it would be nice if we can re-use that with other python based tests , | 14:18 |
| chmouel | from what i saw on kube and docker it is indeed launching containers but the way those containers get built is pretty manual and specific | 14:19 |
| chmouel | (i.e: there is no tox.ini) | 14:19 |
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| dtroyer | for nowI'm using the pre-built google/golang containers, but to do python testing we'd need to make an equivalent | 14:19 |
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| chmouel | dtroyer: there is the official python image on docker but not sure what does google/golang contain, i guess just extra binaries for testings? | 14:21 |
| dtroyer | yeah, also with variants for specific releases | 14:22 |
| dtroyer | it's actually a pretty thin image | 14:22 |
| clarkb | I'm not sure using containers makes nodes more reusable for things like unittests as containers require escalated privs to run but tox does not (just throwing that out there as it is something to consider if this is a goal) | 14:22 |
| dtroyer | clarkb: secondary goal if doable, primary goal needs doing anyway | 14:22 |
| clarkb | yup | 14:22 |
| clarkb | I just think primary goal prevents seconday goal :) | 14:23 |
| chmouel | clarkb: in atomic (obv rh specific but i guess this can be generalised) the thing can get pretty confined with selinux | 14:23 |
| dtroyer | within the same project though? a job that does two test sets? | 14:23 |
| dtroyer | for example, running golang 1.2, 1.3 and 1.4 builds back-to-back | 14:24 |
| clarkb | aure that could be one job today without containers | 14:24 |
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| dtroyer | I wouldn't want tandom jobs doubled up | 14:24 |
| clarkb | we can run python 2.7 then 3.4 for example | 14:24 |
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| chmouel | I think there is other advantages than just optimising the runs to use containers | 14:25 |
| clarkb | yes I am not saying dont use containers | 14:25 |
| clarkb | all I am saying is that if your intent is to run multiple jobs on one node containers dont help | 14:25 |
| dtroyer | right, I'm still thinking through other benefits and that was an early one in my mind | 14:25 |
| clarkb | because the job runner needs escalted privs to start containers typically | 14:26 |
| chmouel | clarkb: it can just connect via the API | 14:26 |
| clarkb | and thats the basic criteria for single use throwaway node | 14:26 |
| chmouel | i.e: tcp | 14:26 |
| chmouel | and not having to run via the socket (and need sudo) | 14:26 |
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| clarkb | chmouel you can still start a priveleged container in root user namespace right? | 14:27 |
| chmouel | clarkb: yes you can | 14:27 |
| clarkb | then tcp doesnt help :) | 14:27 |
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| chmouel | well you could provide only docker images that doesn't have root access | 14:28 |
| chmouel | *i think* | 14:28 |
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| chmouel | and pulling images only from your priv reg | 14:28 |
| chmouel | registry | 14:28 |
| dtroyer | I don't think that's the problem though, the job itself has root access | 14:28 |
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| dtroyer | so another job can't trust what the previous one left behind | 14:29 |
| clarkb | dtroyer correct | 14:29 |
| chmouel | yeah true, i think we just diverging to *docker and security* in general, topic | 14:29 |
| clarkb | but containers are useful for other things so definitely use hem | 14:29 |
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| dtroyer | where I was headed was in isolating things that make system-level changes | 14:29 |
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| chmouel | i think containers would make multi distro testing easier as well | 14:30 |
| chmouel | for the system level testing as you said dtroyer | 14:30 |
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| clarkb | it can also help for local process cleanup if say you need to start external services (mysql rabbit whatever) | 14:35 |
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| chmouel | it would be nice if we can have a wiki page to details the pro and cons | 14:39 |
| chmouel | dtroyer: are you plannign to have a summit session about it ? | 14:39 |
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| dtroyer | no butI'm not against talking about it. I'm focusing on OSC this summit, although the Go bits come from attempting to revive golang-client and build a useful statically linked client | 14:40 |
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| clarkb | there is also a spec up to use containers to do integration testing of infra itself, basically deploy infra to a set of containers otherwise the puppet isnt isolated enough so helps isolate those bits | 14:41 |
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| dtroyer | good to know, I'll go look that up | 14:41 |
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| chmouel | dtroyer: nice i may propose one then, | 14:42 |
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| chmouel | reading thru the spec (written by actually the guy sitting on my right :)) I think it's pretty specific for infra and lxc, and the actual functional/unit test jobs can be more generics | 14:55 |
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| jdandrea | Hmm. Trying to get devstack to work on a fresh VM, to no avail. Issues with six. Then I noticed this: http://paste.openstack.org/show/205114/ | 14:58 |
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| jdandrea | How can pip have two versions at once? :-o | 14:58 |
| jdandrea | (I mean six) | 14:58 |
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| dtroyer | jdandrea: are you on Fedora or RHEL or similar? | 14:59 |
| jdandrea | dtroyer: Ubuntu. | 14:59 |
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| dtroyer | is python-six installed? if so, remove it and uninstall pip's six also, let DevStack re-install it via pip from the project requirements, see if that helps | 15:00 |
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| rlrevell | so after digging into https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nova-compute/+bug/1352579 some more it's not as simple as just using rootwrap. nova-compute calls libvirtmod.virDomainDestroy as user nova but that function needs privileged access. can anyone recommend a clean way to do this? | 15:06 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1352579 in nova-compute (Ubuntu) "lxc instance termination error: permission denied when killing a process" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 15:06 |
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| jdandrea | dtroyer: You got it. python-six 1.5.2 IS installed. | 15:07 |
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| jdandrea | dtroyer: Ok. apt-get remove python-six (1.5.2), then pip uninstall six (1.9.0), then unstack and stack. Same errors with six. Something in devstack (or elsewhere?) is putting back python-six 1.5.2 *and* pip's six (1.9.0). Hmm ... | 15:10 |
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| jordanP | jdandrea, what I would do : | 15:11 |
| jdandrea | Running Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS. *scratches head* | 15:11 |
| dtroyer | when you ininstall python-six, did it list any prereqs that also needed to be uninstalled? | 15:11 |
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| jordanP | python -c "import six; print six.__file__" | 15:12 |
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| dtroyer | something is pulling it in indirectly, you might be able to get a clue searching through /opt/stack/logs/stack.sh.log | 15:12 |
| jordanP | you usually can't uninstall python-six on ubuntu because it's a dependency | 15:13 |
| jdandrea | dtroyer: Good q. Here's what I see. http://paste.openstack.org/show/205118/ | 15:13 |
| jdandrea | jordanP: Ohhhh. Interesting. | 15:13 |
| dtroyer | what did you start with for a base? | 15:13 |
| * jdandrea is still learning handy Python tricks. | 15:13 | |
| jdandrea | dtroyer: 14.04 with the latest devstack. | 15:13 |
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| jdandrea | I did *not* run apt-get autoremove. | 15:14 |
| dtroyer | what 14.04? self-installed? I use the UEC images and they have far fewer pre-installed dependencies | 15:14 |
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| jordanP | jdandrea, what's the ouput of python -c "import six; print six.__file__ | 15:14 |
| jordanP | ? | 15:14 |
| jdandrea | jordanP: /usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/six.pyc | 15:15 |
| dtroyer | should be /usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/six.pyc | 15:15 |
| jordanP | yep | 15:15 |
| jdandrea | Not sure how to change that though. Odd. | 15:15 |
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| jdandrea | Local should override, agreed. | 15:16 |
| jordanP | jdandrea, the ugly way is to remove /usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/six.pyc and /usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/six.py | 15:16 |
| jordanP | then it will fallback to the "local" version of six | 15:16 |
| jordanP | which should be 1.9 | 15:16 |
| jdandrea | Right. | 15:16 |
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| jdandrea | Naive question: How does anyone develop when this sort of thing happens? Does everyone have to remove the /usr/lib versions of six? I feel like I'm still doing something wrong but I have no clue what. | 15:17 |
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| jordanP | jdandrea, I used to have some pb with by ubuntu 14.04 desktop edition with python-six | 15:18 |
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| jdandrea | jordanP: Ah. | 15:18 |
| jordanP | I switched to ubuntu 14.10 which comes with python-six 1.7 | 15:18 |
| jdandrea | Oh! | 15:18 |
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| jdandrea | I could do that. If it's a matter of bumping up Ubuntu I am totally fine with that. | 15:19 |
| jordanP | but, otherwise just develop in a VM (which is what I do) | 15:19 |
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| jdandrea | jordanP: That's what I'm doing. Using a VM. | 15:19 |
| jdandrea | So I can build a new 14.10 image. | 15:19 |
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| dtroyer | you shouldn't need to do that, the entire gate is still 14.04 (except for the 12.04 that remains) but if that works, go for it | 15:19 |
| jdandrea | I'd much rather have the installers do their thing and not make special changes. | 15:19 |
| jdandrea | dtroyer: That's why I stayed on 14.04, because I thought the gate was 14.04. | 15:19 |
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| dtroyer | download the UEC images though, they're a great starting point without too much extra installed | 15:20 |
| jordanP | dtroyer, I suspect he has ubuntu 14.04 desktop not UEC | 15:20 |
| dtroyer | right | 15:20 |
| jdandrea | Yeah, desktop. | 15:20 |
| dtroyer | that's not fun. netowrkmanager comes into play sometimes too, yuck | 15:20 |
| dtroyer | which ever way you go, start with UEC | 15:21 |
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| jdandrea | Also, I'm using this to build a disk image with Heat software config hooks (though with "ubuntu" in place of "fedora selinux-permissive": https://github.com/openstack/heat-templates/tree/master/hot/software-config/elements | 15:21 |
| jordanP | jdandrea, other than switching to ubuntu 14.10 desktop you could just install python-six 1.7 from 14.10 to your 14.04 | 15:22 |
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| jordanP | http://packages.ubuntu.com/fr/utopic/all/python-six/download | 15:22 |
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| jdandrea | jordanP: Sure. I'm happy to try that (and then snapshot). | 15:22 |
| jdandrea | would apt-get upgrade six do that? | 15:23 |
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| jordanP | jdandrea, no. because your sources.list says 'I am running 14.04, I want 14.04 packages' | 15:23 |
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| jdandrea | Oh. | 15:24 |
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| jdandrea | Ok, so I can apt-get remove python-six and then pkgadd this deb. | 15:25 |
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| jordanP | jdandrea, just download the .deb and dpkg -i the .deb | 15:25 |
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| jdandrea | dpkg I mean, yeah. | 15:26 |
| jdandrea | ok, didn't uninstall, just dpkg'ed it. | 15:26 |
| jordanP | yeah | 15:26 |
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| jdandrea | Appreciate the help btw ... still bumping my head into things as I learn my way around. | 15:27 |
| jdandrea | (learn my way around ... odd turn of phrase I picked, heh) | 15:27 |
| jordanP | np | 15:27 |
| jdandrea | jordanP: Well that took care of the six issue! Now there's a different issue with heat specifically, but that's a separate thing. | 15:28 |
| jordanP | jdandrea, good | 15:28 |
| jdandrea | tyvm | 15:28 |
| jdandrea | I would not have known to do that. | 15:28 |
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| jordanP | haha devstack will soon become your best/worst (depends on the day) friend | 15:29 |
| jdandrea | jordanP: :) | 15:30 |
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| jdandrea | Ah. It's not heat per se. python-unittest2 is at 0.5.1. Heat is asking for 1.0.0. Ubuntu packages only shows 0.5.1 though. http://packages.ubuntu.com/en/utopic/all/python-unittest2/download | 15:42 |
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| jdandrea | jordanP: Actually, when I said I was using desktop, I might have been mistaken. I'm using diskimage-builder which is part of TripleO. I would think that creates OpenStack-friendly images. | 15:50 |
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| kr4m3r | hello all, i have a lab deployed with devstack. I have fixed a private network only (no floating) with my local network. I set private as 10.0.0.129/27. So, is it possible modify private network to a /26 withou change ip allocated on instances now? | 17:14 |
| kr4m3r | im using nova | 17:15 |
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| bswartz | ttx: there is a question in #manila, about the lack of stable/kilo branch for python-manilaclient | 17:20 |
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| bswartz | I wasn't aware that projects had started branching their clients too | 17:21 |
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| bswartz | dhellmann: maybe you know the answer to ^ | 17:22 |
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| dhellmann | bswartz: http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/openstack-specs/specs/library-stable-branches.html | 17:29 |
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| bswartz | dhellmann: so who is responsible for creating the appropriate branch for python-manilaclient? ttx took care of the manila project, and I see your name on the stable/kilo branches for some clients | 17:30 |
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| kr4m3r | hello all, i have a lab deployed with devstack using nova-network. I have fixed a private network only (no floating) with my local network and all is working good. I set private as 10.0.0.129/27. So, is it possible modify private network to a /26 without change ip allocated on instances now? | 17:31 |
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| -openstackstatus- NOTICE: gerrit is restarting to clear hung stream-events tasks. any review events between 16:48 and 17:32 utc will need to be rechecked or have their approval votes reapplied to trigger testing in zuul | 17:32 | |
| dhellmann | bswartz: I did some of the clients that had capped requirements so we could release versions without the caps. manila may not have needed that? so we can make a branch for you whenever you're ready. I just need to know the version # of the release you want to have in kilo vs. liberty | 17:32 |
| bswartz | dhellmann: 1.0.4 would be a good place to do the stable branch | 17:33 |
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| ryansb | quick releng question: how are the configs in the release tarballs generated? Does jenkins run 'tox -egenconfig' or similar? | 18:54 |
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| clarkb | the release tarballs are made with `tox -evenv python setup.py sdist` so it would have to be something in that process iirc | 18:55 |
| clarkb | I am not sure that configs end up in the tarballs | 18:55 |
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| ryansb | clarkb: ah, indeed not. I was looking at a 2014.2.x tarball, which still had a sample config | 18:57 |
| ryansb | the kilo series doesn't, since genconfig isn't run | 18:58 |
| clarkb | that sounds right | 18:58 |
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| ryansb | (as of k-rc1) | 18:58 |
| ryansb | thanks | 18:59 |
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| mgagne | clarkb: do you know how to debug version conflicts with pip/tox ? | 19:45 |
| clarkb | mgagne: typically its a matter of taking the pkg resources error, determine what pulled in the wrong version and what wants the other version then making them use compatbile vesions | 19:46 |
| clarkb | mgagne: have an example I can look at? happy to walk through it with you | 19:46 |
| mgagne | clarkb: getting error on a local project depending on nova from stable/juno | 19:47 |
| mgagne | clarkb: should I past my requirements somewhere? | 19:47 |
| clarkb | mgagne: do you have an error like foo>1.2 required but foo==1.1 installed? | 19:47 |
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| mgagne | clarkb: pkg_resources.VersionConflict: (stevedore 1.2.0 (~/myproject/.tox/py27/lib/python2.7/site-packages), Requirement.parse('stevedore>=1.3.0')) | 19:48 |
| mgagne | oslo.i18n-1.6.0 is getting installed too (according to logs) although nova stable/juno cap oslo.i18n to 1.3.1 | 19:48 |
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| clarkb | ah yup, so that should be "fixed" now. iirc the issue is that many things depended on stevedore and one of them was cliff which wanted >=1.3 but global reqs (and thus most projects) were pinned to 1.2 | 19:48 |
| mgagne | so I suspect a transient dependency but can't find it | 19:49 |
| clarkb | mgagne: I think global reqs now allows 1.3 I will find the change but you should be able to apply that to your nova install and it would work | 19:49 |
| mgagne | any change in flight? | 19:49 |
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| clarkb | mgagne: the global reqs change merged not sure about the individual project updates though | 19:49 |
| clarkb | mgagne: https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/requirements/commit/?h=stable/juno&id=efb080e744f7466942f977ae79ec2d74501494f6 | 19:49 |
| mgagne | nice, tyvm for the help! | 19:50 |
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| clarkb | np | 19:50 |
| mgagne | looks like it's caused by oslo.utils | 19:51 |
| mgagne | https://github.com/openstack/oslo.utils/blob/master/requirements.txt#L14 | 19:51 |
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| mgagne | how can I install a specific commit pending review on gerrit? I tried pip install -e git+https://review.openstack.org/p/openstack/ironic@292b22c82207455453a66bdcabdecae8872e85d8#egg=ironic and it doesn't work. I wish to use it in requirements.txt | 22:21 |
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| mgagne | I'm getting: Could not find a tag or branch '292b22c82207455453a66bdcabdecae8872e85d8', assuming commit. | 22:22 |
| mgagne | fatal: Could not parse object '292b22c82207455453a66bdcabdecae8872e85d8'. | 22:22 |
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| clarkb | mgagne: I get error: no such remote ref 292b22c82207455453a66bdcabdecae8872e85d8 I think because of gerrit weirdness possibly. mgagne try using the ref for the change/patchset instead? | 22:25 |
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| mgagne | I tried that too | 22:25 |
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| mgagne | could be my version of pip that is retarded | 22:26 |
| clarkb | ok using refs/changes/21/173121/2 works as a fetch locally here | 22:26 |
| clarkb | but I haven't tried it with pip | 22:26 |
| mgagne | yep, git checkout works for me | 22:26 |
| mgagne | latest pip fails too | 22:27 |
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| clarkb | mgagne: try s/review/git/ and see if that makes a difference? two different git implementations involved | 22:28 |
| clarkb | one is the trusty based git replica on review.openstack.org and the other is centos6 based git | 22:28 |
| mgagne | same | 22:30 |
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| mgagne | pip doesn't fetch refs/changes/* | 22:31 |
| clarkb | huh | 22:31 |
| mgagne | I cd into the git workspace and ran git show <commit> | 22:32 |
| mgagne | can't find | 22:32 |
| mgagne | git fetch origin +refs/changes/*:refs/remotes/origin/changes/* | 22:32 |
| mgagne | and now it works | 22:32 |
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| mgagne | could it be that jenkins slave in infra prefetch git repositories using specialized scripts and consider refs/changes/* too? | 22:33 |
| mgagne | I think I'm just going to fork the repository, cherry-pick and use that instead | 22:34 |
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| clarkb | refs/changes is not going to be pulled ina clone by default | 22:35 |
| clarkb | but it will be on review.openstack.org and git.openstack.org and github in our mirrors | 22:35 |
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| mgagne | clarkb: thanks for your time. I'll go with the bazooka solution: https://github.com/mgagne/ironic/tree/changes/173121/2 | 22:39 |
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