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cooldharma06how to debug openstack nova component.? any suggestions or reference links?09:31
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exploreshaifalicooldharma06, you can ask same thing at nova channel - #openstack-nova09:37
cooldharma06ok thanks exploreshaifali09:38
exploreshaifalinp :)09:38
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kashyapcexploreshaifali: That channel is for Nova upstream development. For usage questions, you might want to refer to #openstack, unless you're debugging something from git.09:42
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exploreshaifaliokay, sorry09:43
exploreshaifalicooldharma06, ^^09:43
exploreshaifalikashyapc, Thanks!09:43
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cooldharma06oh thanks all. google also giving hands.09:45
cooldharma06:)09:45
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gilliardAny word on the summit schedule?09:54
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mtreinishdhellmann: if you get a sec https://review.openstack.org/166044 should be quick13:57
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dhellmannmtreinish: looking14:02
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dhellmannmtreinish: +2a14:03
mtreinishdhellmann: thanks14:03
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bswartzttx: ping14:09
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ttxbswartz: pong14:09
bswartzttx: who tags manila client versions? you or me?14:10
ttxbswartz: you normally14:10
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sdaguettx / dhellmann - I'm free if you want to run through requirements edge conditions15:14
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dhellmannsdague, ttx: I'm around for a bit15:15
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ttxdhellmann, sdague: sorry, was on a call15:39
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ttxdhellmann, sdague: let me post edge cases I found15:40
sdaguettx: great15:40
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ttxsdague: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/155428/ looks like a client bump, so should be +1 ?15:42
ttxheh, there are two competing cryptography>=0.8 changes15:43
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sdaguettx: agree on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/155428/15:45
ttxhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/159293/ -- that bump looks a bit scary to me, but I could be convinced it's harmless15:45
ttxYou +2ed https://review.openstack.org/#/c/162493/ (requests-mock) because its a test dep ?15:45
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ttxhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/155353/ is an interesting one15:46
ttxIt's removing the cap, not adding dep or bumping15:46
sdaguettx: yes, requests-mock because of test dep15:47
ttxok will +2 it15:47
sdaguethe django uncap is way too late, especially because there are actual test system unwind problems15:47
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sdagueI'm pretty sure - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/159293/ is really required15:48
sdaguemordred could probably comment on that as well15:48
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ttxnext mysterious one is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/151224/ -- would like dhellmann's opinion on it15:49
sdagueif the django one was passing all the tests, that would be fine, but horizon is coupled with django pretty hard, and django bumps have always broken us15:49
sdagueright - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/151224/ - I skipped that one. I have no idea where things are going there.15:50
sdagueso I don't feel qualified15:50
ttxok, so let's keep the -2 on django and have them preach their case15:50
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david-lyledjango version is capped at 1.6 currently15:50
ttxon the pip one, I just have no idea what that +2 will trigger, hopefully won't break all the things on a Friday15:50
sdaguedavid-lyle: yep15:50
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david-lyle1.7 ~6 months old15:51
david-lyle1.8 is about to release, in beta15:51
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sdaguedavid-lyle: right, that's fine, but the proposed cap lift doesn't pass tests15:51
david-lyleI would like at a minimum to move to capping <=1.715:51
david-lyleI think 1.8 is the issue15:51
ttxsdague: so I'd rather let someone with some knowledge of the consequences +2/APRV it :)15:51
sdaguebecause some new ways in which horizon / nose / django are coupled15:51
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david-lylenew django-nose requirement that mysteriously isn't being pulled down15:52
mordredwhat did I do?15:52
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sdaguemordred: your opinion on - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/159293/ is requested15:52
david-lyleI can update the patch to include 1.715:52
david-lyleand not 1.815:52
sdaguedavid-lyle: if that passes tests, we can reconsider15:52
ttxmordred: you could even +2/aprv it if you are comfortable with it15:52
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david-lyleopen ended dependencies scare me15:52
sdaguedavid-lyle: well, especially django15:53
david-lyleyes, and 1.8 is not released yet15:53
sdaguehorizon has needed changes for every django version bump15:53
ttxdhellmann: I think we solved most of them, although we could sue a briefing on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/151224/15:53
david-lylethe motivation for 1.8 is it's the next long term support release15:53
ttxuse*15:53
david-lylesdague: yes15:53
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david-lylelet me update the patch to 1.715:54
sdaguedavid-lyle: so the failure is with Django==1.7.615:54
sdaguehttp://logs.openstack.org/53/155353/6/check/check-tempest-dsvm-full/ef30fc7/logs/pip-freeze.txt.gz15:54
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sdaguewhich means an updated patch is not going to pass tests15:54
dhellmannttx, sdague : sorry, had an issue with translations/unicode/nova exception handling in #openstack-oslo, but I'm back15:54
david-lyleoh, you're right15:54
david-lylecan't pull 1.8 yet because it's a beta15:55
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david-lyleI'll work with mrunge to see if we can figure it out15:55
sdagueso, I would still update the patch to be <1.8 anyway15:55
dhellmannttx, sdague : I see kite using lockfile, still15:55
sdaguebecause definitely not going to land it as is15:55
david-lylebecause leaving the dependency at 1.6 isn't going to work for a lot of people15:55
sdaguedhellmann: is kite still a thing?15:55
dhellmannsdague: I don't know?15:56
sdaguemorganfainberg: "is kite still a thing?"15:56
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sdaguedavid-lyle: yeh, if you figure out how to unwind and get the tests to pass, it can be considered, but it really needs to happen in the next few days, otherwise you are out of luck15:57
david-lylesdague: understood15:57
sdaguealso... stuff like that would be really nice to address near the beginning of a cycle :)15:57
sdaguenot a week from freeze15:57
david-lyleit sure would15:57
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ttxthat said that change was proposed Feb 20, so a bit our fault too15:59
ttxerr Feb 1215:59
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sdaguettx: it's still in the 3rd milestone16:00
mordredsdague: +316:00
sdaguettx: https://review.openstack.org/155428 is now rebased (saharaclient bump)16:00
ttxdhellmann: maybe comment that kite still uses it as a rationale for not approving it yet16:00
sdagueso if you want to +A that16:01
ttxdone16:01
sdaguettx: any other edge conditions?16:01
ttxno, I think the others all make sense16:01
ttxand should at the very least be discussed16:01
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sdaguethis one I only -1ed - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/163506 - but I'm really anti a strict pin like that16:04
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ttxyeah agreed16:05
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dhellmannsdague: don't we do that with hacking?16:05
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dhellmannI mean, I'd rather we not use pylint at all, but it seems like it falls into the same category.16:05
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sdagueexcept we control the hacking source code, and make it compatible across the upgrade windows16:06
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dhellmanndid this cause problems for more than one project?16:06
sdagueI think all other projects have given up on pylint16:07
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dhellmannironiclib, sahara, and oslo.vmware are using it16:07
sdagueare they?16:07
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dhellmannhttp://paste.openstack.org/show/193963/16:07
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sdagueso sahara does non voting16:07
sdaguewhich is what nova did16:07
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dhellmannthat works for me, I'm just trying to understand the scope of the issue16:08
dhellmannlike I said, I don't like pylint at all and would rather we just not use it16:08
sdagueironic-lib doesn't have it16:08
dhellmannthe have it in their test-requirements.txt, but maybe they don't have a job for it16:08
sdagueneither does oslo.vmware16:08
sdagueright, no running jobs though16:09
dhellmannok, maybe the devs are using it locally there or something16:09
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sdagueor it's cruft16:09
dhellmannyeah16:09
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sdaguehonestly, it seems like if they are running in a way that's that sensitive to output changes, they should just vendor the code and carry it. Because that's kind of the ask, really.16:13
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dhellmannI don't think we want to encourage *that*. It seems better to tell them to make the job non-voting. I know the neutron team depends on automated checks a lot, but I agree we shouldn't spread that to the other projects.16:15
sdaguedhellmann: so I did say, make it non voting, and people started yelling in the review :)16:16
sdagueso feel free to chime in16:16
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dhellmannsdague: yeah, I'm composing a reply16:17
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dhellmannsdague: ok, done. Were there any others that needed an approval, or did you and ttx wrap them up?16:26
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ttxdhellmann: I think we are good. Let's wait for exception requests now16:32
dhellmannttx: ack16:33
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elarsonFYI all you emacs users out there, lodgeit is available on melpa. you can `M-x package-install lodgeit` to get it20:06
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dimsum__sdague: dhellmann: the squigglies ("~=") have not been proposed by proposal bot yet? it's been a while since it hit global requirements20:22
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dimsum__sdague: dhellmann: this one - https://github.com/openstack/requirements/commit/289d736bd2c3f87fc6e26f679f9f41fea554e596#diff-d7d5c6fa7118ea10d88f3afeaef4da7720:23
dhellmanndimsum__: oh? I wonder if there was an issue with the bot? fungi ^^20:23
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dimsum__dhellmann: possibly - https://review.openstack.org/#/q/owner:%22OpenStack+Proposal+Bot%22+status:open,n,z20:24
fungidhellmann: dimsum__: that's possible. lemme see what the log says. also calling it a bot misleads people. it's just a jenkins job20:24
dimsum__fungi: apologies, went by the name it uses to file the review :)20:25
dhellmannfungi: tomato, tomato20:25
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bknudsonthis is a bot: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/5c/C-3PO_droid.png20:27
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fungiyeah, we should probably fix its name. these are not the bots you're looking for20:27
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fungibknudson: that was also not the droid i was looking for. none of these are the droids i'm looking for. i should go back to tending bar at the cantina. this storm trooper gig is just not my thing20:29
dimsum__fungi: let's name it "R. Daneel Olivaw" :)20:30
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fungidimsum__: i like r. giskard reventlov20:31
fungimore obscure20:31
fungithough those are actually the names of my two roombas20:31
dimsum__fungi: +1 :)20:31
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fungidimsum__: dhellmann: excellent guess. http://logs.openstack.org/97/9748be9828b2a2d22f1784f79885d28602b9294a/post/propose-requirements-updates/580aa1f/console.html#_2015-03-20_18_28_41_62020:32
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clarkbwe need newer setuptools to pull in newer package resources and newer pip likely?20:34
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clarkbI have said it in the infra channel that changing to use ~= seems odd when >=,< should just work fine20:34
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sdaguedhellmann: you want to respin with >=,<?20:40
sdagueI'll fast approve20:40
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dimsum__sdague: what exactly does "~=" mean?20:44
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sdagueit means fuzzy for the last element in the version20:45
dimsum__sdague: i can whip one up if dhellmann is busy/away20:45
sdaguedimsum__: yeh, that would be appreciated20:45
sdaguebecause all the proposals are now sunk until we fix that20:45
sdague~=1.6.0 => >=1.6.0,<1.720:46
sdaguefor instance20:46
dimsum__gotcha20:46
dhellmanndimsum__: if you haven't already started I can do it20:46
dimsum__cool dhellmann20:46
sdagueif you run a quick fix for master, I'll fast approve it. It will be the same meaning as what's in the repo, but will work with old setuptools20:46
dhellmannsdague: I thought all of our tools supported the new syntax20:46
dimsum__please go ahead20:46
dhellmanndimsum__: ok, working20:47
sdaguedhellmann: clearly not - http://logs.openstack.org/97/9748be9828b2a2d22f1784f79885d28602b9294a/post/propose-requirements-updates/580aa1f/console.html#_2015-03-20_18_28_41_62020:47
dhellmannsdague: yes, I would have expected the check job to fail, too :-/20:47
sdagueyeh, I don't know what's different in them.20:47
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dhellmannsdague, dimsum__ : https://review.openstack.org/16637720:53
dimsum__dhellmann: the trailing ".0" is it required? cliff>=1.10.0,<1.11.020:54
dhellmanndimsum__: as I understand it, yes. Leaving that out has a slightly different meaning?20:54
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sdagueit was needed for ~= for sure, but unclear if we need it here20:56
sdagueI don't think it will hurt though20:56
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dimsum__"# Apache-2.0" is very annoying as well...20:57
sdaguewell that was a specific ask20:58
sdaguewe could probably do that in separate metadata somewhere if someone wanted to spin that off20:58
dimsum__sdague: general observation, not for this review :)20:58
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sdaguelike a packages.yaml that lists the packages and all the metadata we care about for them20:59
sdagueit is one of many ways this system is overloaded for different tasks :)20:59
sdaguedhellmann: on the upside, all the projects are going to get a giant requirements sync all at once :)21:00
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sdaguedimsum__: thanks for the catch that the proposal bot proposals were mia21:03
dimsum__very welcome sdague.21:03
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dhellmannsdague: yeah, I thought about converting the g-r list to a yaml file or something, but haven't yet had so much free time that I wanted to get into it :-)21:05
dhellmanndimsum__: ++ thanks21:05
dhellmannsdague: one big sync should make it easier to land the all, right? :-)21:06
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sdagueit will use a lot less test resources for sure21:06
sdaguewhich will be nice21:06
sdagueespecially as hpcloud is still the sads I think21:06
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flashgordonthingee: having fun yet?22:07
thingee:)22:07
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flashgordonmestery: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/165648/22:33
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mesteryjog: See the change, dealing with son back from minor surgery, will review over the weekend.23:42
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morganfainbergsdague, ping re: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/164289/ - I responded to your -1, but in short the entier non-persistent token backend for keystone will not work without at least ~0.7 of the cryptography lib. This is a gap in our testing that didn't indicate that we were relying on a feature that was too new for the minimum23:45
morganfainbergsdague, i admit it is the fault of both keystone core and the developers, but it shows we are also generally in a gap where we need an environment with the minimum requirements installed. i think it would be better to bump this now rather than post release or have non-persistent tokens non-functional with the advertised minimum23:46
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