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| SpamapS | jogo: ^5 for getting the conversation moving in a positive direction. | 00:25 |
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| jogo | SpamapS: ^5 thanks. I was thinking about this at the paris summit and this was the result of it | 00:26 |
| jogo | SpamapS: I don't know how much it would help but think its a step in the right direction for sure | 00:26 |
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| clarkb | jogo: did you consider releasing whenever things rae not too broken as attested by e-r? | 00:27 |
| clarkb | jogo: bceause this is one hing I have thought we could do | 00:27 |
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| clarkb | (basically high classification rate, low incidence of failure) | 00:28 |
| jogo | clarkb: so not now http://jogo.github.io/gate/ | 00:28 |
| jogo | clarkb: hmm interesting idea, I wanted to keep a constant cadence | 00:29 |
| clarkb | jogo: it would likely need to be tuned over time (and we can go back in time and tag things based on historical data) | 00:29 |
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| jogo | as that is closer to what we what currently do | 00:29 |
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| jogo | and not all failures in ER are openstack some are network, devstack, etc. | 00:30 |
| jogo | clarkb: but if we move to a frequent milestone cadence we can tweak how we release the milestones a bit | 00:30 |
| clarkb | jogo: ya my gripe with milestones is they don't mean anything if the software is broken | 00:30 |
| clarkb | jogo: which is why I have thought aboutusing the e-r dat | 00:31 |
| jogo | clarkb: yeah, e-r could a good tool to help us make our milestones better | 00:31 |
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| jogo | clarkb: a little cautious about making the cadence too flexible though. I think wiggle room of a week or two sounds reasonable though | 00:32 |
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| jogo | clarkb: but I really like that idea a lot. I think that fits under the 'better automation around releases -- to make them more useful and easier to cut' umbrella | 00:34 |
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| flaper87 | sdague: dtroyer chmouel: hey guys, sorry for pinging for reviews but this is blocking some patches in zaqar, mind taking a look here? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/157746/ | 09:14 |
| flaper87 | Thanks in advance :) | 09:14 |
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| cristicalin | anyone with lbaas experience around ? | 10:33 |
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| cristicalin | i'm looking for a way to expose multiple services on different ports on the same pool/vip | 10:34 |
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| claudiub | i think you should try #openstack-neutron, you might get faster responses | 10:36 |
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| sdague | flaper87: also, have you thought about zaqar from a devstack external plugin perspective? which would let you do these changes yourself? | 10:43 |
| sdague | btw +2 on that | 10:43 |
| flaper87 | sdague: honestly, I have. I just haven't had the time to do so :( | 10:44 |
| sdague | ok, cool | 10:44 |
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| ttx | sdague: do you plan to do a new patchset on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/145245 or should I propose to move it to final approval step ? | 14:01 |
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| sdague | doing a new rev was not high on my todo list | 14:04 |
| ttx | sdague: what would you like me to do with it ? | 14:05 |
| sdague | I think we should move that one in, and fix stuff on cleanup patches | 14:05 |
| ttx | ok | 14:05 |
| sdague | it seems the sentiment was agreed to | 14:05 |
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| ttx | agreed | 14:05 |
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| ZZelle | dhellmann, hi | 16:12 |
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| dhellmann | ZZelle: hi | 16:16 |
| ZZelle | dhellmann, i responded to your remark on https://review.openstack.org/158343 | 16:16 |
| ZZelle | dhellmann, but after this change merges, can i update openstackclient code or should i wait for next cliff release? | 16:17 |
| dhellmann | ZZelle: you would need to wait for a release | 16:18 |
| stevemar | ZZelle, need a new release | 16:18 |
| stevemar | dhellmann, which should be pretty easy to do? no? | 16:18 |
| dhellmann | stevemar: yeah, although if the reason for doing this is openstackclient having to hack around things in cliff, which was designed for openstackclient, then maybe we should just take a bigger look at the issue. Does this change remove the need for the current hacks? | 16:19 |
| dhellmann | ZZelle: ^^ | 16:19 |
| ZZelle | dhellmann, stevemar, ok, thanks. It can wait as its only a code refactoring on openstackclient | 16:19 |
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| ZZelle | dhellmann, it removes most of it ... ie: the hack is replaced by setting deferred_help=True and checking/calling deferred_help in initialize_app | 16:21 |
| dtroyer | dhellmann: I think this is one example, there are a couple of things that I've done in OSC like this to prove are good before pushing them back into cliff, and I've totally dropped the ball in following up on those. I also have a couple of reviews proposed to cliff that I think need my follow-up along this same line. | 16:21 |
| ZZelle | dhellmann, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/158343/1/cliff/app.py explains it better | 16:21 |
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| ihrachyshka | boris-42, hey. you're the rally guy, right? | 16:22 |
| ZZelle | i can also publish openstackclient change as WIP, if it helps to decide | 16:22 |
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| stevemar | ZZelle, +1 | 16:22 |
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| dhellmann | ZZelle: yeah, please do post the WIP patch. As I said, cliff exists primarily to support openstackclient, so we shouldn't force ourselves to work around issues. :-) | 16:23 |
| ihrachyshka | boris-42, I wonder how I run rally + devstack/juno. | 16:23 |
| ZZelle | dhellmann, ok | 16:23 |
| ihrachyshka | boris-42, I currently get "ImportError: No module named oslo_log" | 16:23 |
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| kkoski | I'm diving into the Cinder source, and I noticed that there's a database api, which in turn interacts with a sqlalchemy api | 16:41 |
| kkoski | are there actually plans to move away from sqlalchemy at some point? | 16:42 |
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| kkoski | or was that abstracted for other future potential ORMs? | 16:42 |
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| kkoski | or is it for other reasons, like concurrency or something like that? | 16:44 |
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| boris-42 | ihrachyshka: don't run it on juno | 16:54 |
| boris-42 | ihrachyshka: as a devstack plugin | 16:54 |
| ihrachyshka | boris-42, ok, so venv? | 16:54 |
| boris-42 | ihrachyshka: you should install rally in virtual env | 16:54 |
| ihrachyshka | boris-42, ack, thanks | 16:55 |
| boris-42 | ihrachyshka: yep the simplest way is to run "./install_rally.sh -s" | 16:55 |
| boris-42 | ihrachyshka: yep the simplest way is to run "./install_rally.sh -v" ** | 16:55 |
| boris-42 | ihrachyshka: it will install all packages + rally in venv | 16:55 |
| boris-42 | ihrachyshka: we are working on replacing our devstack plugin | 16:55 |
| boris-42 | ihrachyshka: to install rally in venv always | 16:55 |
| ihrachyshka | ack | 16:55 |
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| ihrachyshka | boris-42, then maybe https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Rally/installation needs some love (not to mention the option?) | 16:56 |
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| boris-42 | ihrachyshka: wiki page is obsolote | 16:58 |
| boris-42 | ihrachyshka: we need to delete it imho | 16:58 |
| boris-42 | ihrachyshka: https://rally.readthedocs.org/en/latest/ | 16:58 |
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| ihrachyshka | boris-42, whatever fits you, I thought it's current :) | 16:58 |
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| boris-42 | ihrachyshka: nope we are going to delete it soon | 17:01 |
| gilliard | How does testr deal with locale overrides? | 17:01 |
| clarkb | does it need to?, the tests/project itself should handle all of that | 17:02 |
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| gilliard | So I'm looking at nova, and all the tests pass for me (non-en_US locale), but for my colleage some of them fail. | 17:02 |
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| gilliard | AFAICT we have the same env setup, so I'm trying to dig into it. | 17:03 |
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| clarkb | gilliard: if I had to guess thats a problem in nova's locale handling and not testr's. testr is just going to list tests which are not locale dependent then execute them whihc also shouldn't be locale dependent | 17:03 |
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| gilliard | OK. So we should not expect testr to normalise user environments ? That would be nova's responsibility, (or to have non-locale-sensitive tests, ofc). | 17:05 |
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| clarkb | yes, it should be nova and/or nova's tests that handle all of that. Or as an alternative specify the required env in the tox.ini | 17:06 |
| gilliard | Thanks clarkb | 17:06 |
| clarkb | but testr itself as the test runner is not going to be opinionated about that | 17:06 |
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| gilliard | good good. | 17:07 |
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| ZZelle | dhellmann, stevemar, openstackclient change removing openstackclient homemade hack for deferred help: https://review.openstack.org/158779 | 17:27 |
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| dhellmann | ZZelle: ok, I'll take a look | 17:28 |
| ZZelle | dhellmann, thx | 17:28 |
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| stevemar | ZZelle, dhellmann it's certainly less hacky in cliff than in osc | 17:32 |
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| mtreinish | hdd: have you seen: https://review.openstack.org/156508 ? | 20:09 |
| mtreinish | it's on the cross project meeting agenda for today, if you wanted to share your experiences doing that stuff before | 20:09 |
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| cmluciano | o/ anyone available to help with gerrit problems? | 20:56 |
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| cmluciano | I have everything setup as the gerrit instructions state but I can’t push and I get a warning about my ICLA not being signed (though gerrit says that I do have one signed) | 20:57 |
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| clarkb | cmluciano: does it say you need to update your contact info wit ha link to the page to do that? | 21:00 |
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| cmluciano | clarkb: Yep, And that appears to be in gerrit, the username and email are correct and I just double checked my openstack foundation account and changed it to match | 21:01 |
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| clarkb | cmluciano: one sec there is an ask asnwer for this that should cover it all | 21:02 |
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| clarkb | cmluciano: https://ask.openstack.org/en/question/56720/cannot-store-contact-information-when-updating-info-in-openstack-gerrit/ basically make sure you submit contact info and if that doesn't work check your membership status as detailed on that link | 21:03 |
| cmluciano | clarkb: will take a look thanks | 21:03 |
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| cmluciano | clarkb: That was the issue! Thanks for your help | 21:07 |
| clarkb | cmluciano: no problem | 21:07 |
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| anish | clarkb: related, any idea how to check if the corporate version of the ICLA was properly setup ? | 21:27 |
| clarkb | reed: ^ what is process for that? | 21:27 |
| clarkb | anish: I think you have to contact the foundation let me dig around | 21:28 |
| clarkb | anish: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Contributors/Corporate looks like it may have the info you want as well as links to updating things and so on | 21:28 |
| clarkb | anish: however reed would know much more about this | 21:28 |
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| anish | clarkb: thanks ! | 21:29 |
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| anish | reed: I have the notification saying the Corporate CLA was filed, but beyond that I don't see it on the list (or anywhere for that matter) | 21:31 |
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| reed | anish, reach me offline | 22:04 |
| anish | reed: do you mean pm or email ? | 22:04 |
| reed | there is no better way to check if a corporate cla is on file than a wiki page, which is updated manually and may not be in sync with the actual record | 22:04 |
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