Wednesday, 2015-01-28

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notmynamemiguelgrinberg: so what's proposed isn't a guideline, it's the API that should be transitioned to.00:04
notmynamemiguelgrinberg: I've got to run. I'm always* online. but you can get other swift-spedific questions answered in #openstack-swift00:09
notmyname*via an irc bouncer00:09
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miguelgrinbergnotmyname: well, it is a guideline. It's pretty clear that swift presents some challenges if this proposed solution had to be implemented exactly as written today. There is no intention to force anything unreasonable, but we are trying to find some common ground we are all happy with.00:11
miguelgrinbergnotmyname: I'll think about your raised issues and respond in gerrit.00:11
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arosenjamielennox: dtroyer_zz  is there any way in the openstackclient to specify arbitrary options without having to parser.add_argument() them?00:50
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dtroyer_zzarosen: there is a plugin hook to do that…well, to add them to the global parser…hang on00:51
stevemararosen, otherwise you are at the mercy of cliff00:51
arosendtroyer_zz:  I want to be able to do : --foo=bar --balh=True and then get those as parsed_args in take_action()00:51
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dtroyer_zzoh, command options not global options...00:52
arosendtroyer_zz:  ah okay that sounds like what I 'm looking to do. The neutronclient does something similar.00:52
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arosendtroyer_zz:  I want this on command.Command00:52
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dtroyer_zzarosen: that is all handled by cliff…some mucking about in there to get the remainder might be possible00:53
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arosendtroyer_zz: stevemar, got it. If you set nargs='*' in parser.add_argument() it allows to you to pass in as many args as you want.01:04
arosenso i can do --config user=blah password=passward etc=etc01:04
dtroyer_zzarosen: you of course can do what you want, but that is not how OSC would do it internally.  We set up for multiple occurrences of an option in that case (see —property in many commands):  —config user=blah —config password=password01:06
dtroyer_zznargs has other potential issues that has led me to avoid it when possible01:06
arosenah i see, okay i'll try and mirror that.01:07
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stevemardtroyer_zz, why'd you delete the translationy files?01:12
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dtroyer_zzI didn't intentionally01:13
stevemardtroyer_zz, you've been off your game lately!01:13
stevemarmust be battling a cold01:13
dtroyer_zzI've been travelling…and not sleeping well01:14
stevemarah01:14
dtroyer_zzin spite of the current nick01:14
stevemarhue hue01:14
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ryanolsenDoes anyone know how oslo.config gets it's version number from? I don't see any file in the repo that relates to it's version when installed via python setup.py install01:16
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dtroyer_zzstevemar: 52nd time is charm!01:18
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stevemarryanolsen, setup.cfg?01:18
ryanolsenstevemar: it was the first place i looked, but no cigar01:19
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stevemarryanolsen, drats01:19
ryanolseneven did a full text search of the whole repo but there was no match01:19
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stevemaryeah, just did the same, funny01:21
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stevemari wonder if anyone else will chime in and answer :)01:21
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dtroyerit's a pbr thing and IIRC it based on git tags01:22
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clarkbyes its pbr based on git tags and distance from tags01:24
ryanolsendtroyer, clarkb: i see that makes sense now01:24
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sdaguettx: I presume you should probably be the one that says this is ok - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/150626/ - it's putting infra into stable req core13:45
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ttxsdague: looking13:48
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ttxsdague: sounds sane13:49
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nikunj2512_Hi, i am having a issue with nova after installing devstack in a virtual box13:53
nikunj2512_nova is not creating default availbility_zones for devstack13:53
nikunj2512_Please can someone have any idea why this is happening?13:53
nikunj2512_i am using Ubuntu 12.04 in VMware Workstation13:54
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devanandasdague: if you have a minute to review a trivial tempest patch for adding backwards compatibility in ironic's tempest test -- https://review.openstack.org/#/c/150635/14:41
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sdaguedid you guys bump something user visible here for anyone to know what to expect, or are we assuming it's admin interface and compat isn't important at this level?14:43
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devanandanot sure what you mean14:44
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devanandasdague: this changes the provisioning_state value of an unused Ironic node from "None" to "Available"14:51
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devanandasdague: well, not this, but the related work in Ironic14:51
sdagueright14:51
devanandasdague: we've landed a similarly small patch in Nova so that Kilo nova will work with both Juno and Kilo Ironic14:51
devanandaand adam_g's got a partial upgrade test in the works14:52
sdaguesure, but it's still an API semantic change14:52
sdagueso I was curious about the signalling14:53
devanandasdague: ah. we didn't anticipate a version bump for this14:54
devanandas/didn't/aren't/14:54
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sdagueok, so semantic change, no user signalling. That seems bad. But if that's how ironic rolls, so be it14:56
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devanandasdague: the API's verbs remain unchanged. eg, what a user would PUT to initiate a state change14:59
sdaguethat doesn't mean the API is unchanged15:00
sdaguethe semantics are different15:00
devanandasdague: *nod*15:00
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sdaguethe user payload is different15:01
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devanandahmm15:01
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devanandalet me try something really quick ...15:03
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mfalaticQuestion - what is the minimum version of Centos/RHEL that openstack *kilo* is expected to run upon? (This is for a doc update)16:21
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mordreddevananda: I agree with sdague - the API contract extends past the verbs to the payload - non-detectable differences in stuff like that _kill_ me as a user16:45
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devanandamordred: *nod*16:50
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devanandamordred: sdague: aside from (micro)version bump, is there other signalling that you, as a user, would appreciate?16:52
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devanandaalso, I'm digging into how readily we can do v1_1 for this16:56
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jogodhellmann: ping pinning17:40
SpamapSmorganfainberg: hey, if I try to authenticate with a domain_name, and no domain_id, do I need domain list access to do that?17:41
SpamapSshardy: ^^ at one time I believe your answer would have been yes to this answer, but I am reading code and it looks like the answer is no.17:41
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shardySpamapS: Yeah at one point I'm pretty sure you did, but that was a long time ago, I think it's now fixed17:58
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SpamapSshardy: yeah it looks like keystone just looks up the domain ID for you.18:00
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dhellmannjogo: just saw your ping here18:01
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shardySpamapS: Cool, I forget the details but IIRC at one point keystoneclient tried to use list to find it18:03
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SpamapSshardy: Oh that would be something I haven't looked at yet!18:03
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jogodhellmann: yeah so what happened with your previous attempt to pin?18:06
jogopartial pin18:06
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dhellmannjogo: I tried to pin just the oslo libs (thinking we would come back and figure out how to do the others later). I ran into problems with the patch failing jobs, but the details are lost to time. This may have been at a point in time before we dropped the job that was explicitly checking for overlapping requirements ranges, but it may just have been a failure in grenade.18:08
jogoahh18:08
dhellmannjogo: sdague updated grenade to upgrade ceilometer before swift, so that behavior change may unblock some of the other failures we've seen at different times since my first attempt18:09
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jogodhellmann: ahhhh18:09
jogoso I have this: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/147451/18:09
jogothis won't work for grenade though18:09
jogohave to make it a cap not a pin18:10
jogofor grenade18:10
jogobut overall it worked18:10
jogorebasing and seeing if pins still hold up18:10
jogoif so, I think we should try it18:10
dhellmannjogo: yeah, we need to cap to those versions, rather than pinning, but if you've worked out what the numbers are that's more than half of the work18:10
dhellmannjogo: have you seen http://nvie.com/posts/better-package-management/ ?18:11
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jogodhellmann: yes I have, that is the second phase of my plan18:12
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jogodhellmann: as we have to make changes to all stable branches on all projects to freeze all deps18:12
jogodhellmann: I have a tiny script to read pip-freeze18:13
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jogodhellmann: but the freezing thing doesn't address how we want to handle clients18:15
jogoi.e. keep them uncapped?18:15
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jogoif we cap them we significantly reduce our backwards compat testing for clients18:17
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dhellmannjogo: the client backwards-compat test should install everything using the caps via devstack, then install the uncapped clients into a virtualenv (maybe where tempest is already installed?) and the tests should use that second copy18:25
* dhellmann thinks that's the thing no one has wanted to rewrite, yet18:25
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jogodhellmann: I was hoping to trick dtroyer into doing that18:27
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jogodhellmann: also working on novaclient functional testing to help shore that up18:27
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dhellmannjogo: let me know if you need help twisting arms :-)18:27
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jogodhellmann: he is in the room with me, but that may help18:28
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melwittdhellmann: I've been meaning to ask you if you have seen this yet, apparently Arch Linux has to workaround argparse in requirements.txt of our projects (oslo.config for example), I hoped you might understand this more than I do https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-novaclient/+bug/140130918:30
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dhellmannmelwitt: thanks, I added some info on the bug18:33
melwittdhellmann: cool, thank you!18:33
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dtroyerdhellmann, jogo: catching up…18:35
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dtroyerI did a knee-jerk patch last week to do OSC in a venv last week in icehouse, that turns out to be not too hard.  However we've talked a bit here this week and it seems like the other way around, (services in a venv and clients in system) might be a better approach where interactive debugging comes in18:37
devanandamordred: does http://paste.openstack.org/show/uh1a75NvS2c0oLPVcKe8/ make you less stabbity?18:37
dtroyerservices in a venv have other benefits too so that might be a decent single approach18:37
dhellmanndtroyer: ok, that works too -- the point is the split, not the direction they're moving18:37
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jogonot sure how much it matters in the end18:38
dhellmanndtroyer: if we install services in a venv, can they see the system packages they need?18:38
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jogodhellmann: AFAIK that is optional right?18:38
dhellmannjogo: yes, but then they would also see the newer clients and conflicting requirements we're installing18:39
dhellmannmaybe we just need 2 virtualenvs, one that sees system site-packages for the services and another that doesn't for the newer clients18:39
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jogodtroyer: what is the easiest option for now, since we can rework it later as needed18:40
dtroyerdhellmann: that's one bit I haven't crossed yet, my assumption was that the venvs would not look at the system18:40
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dhellmanndtroyer: I think libvirt is the issue with that, but it may not be any more18:40
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dtroyerjogo: I have started both ways, but the volume of verification for isolating clients is much smaller18:41
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jogodhellmann: you mentioned a tool to be able call a binary inside a virtualenv from outside of it?18:42
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marunzzzeek: hi!18:45
marunzzzeek: I really appreciate your diligent reviewing of db patches for neutron.18:45
zzzeekhey18:46
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zzzeekhey marun : youre welcome!  i have to run out for about 90 minutes18:46
marunzzzeek: Especially around the isolation_level change, it's pretty clear that I don't have the background to be vetting some of the work that has been attempted.18:46
marunzzzeek: No problem.18:46
marunzzzeek: Hope to talk briefly a bit later, then.18:47
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dhellmannjogo: let me find that reference18:53
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dhellmannjogo: https://pypi.python.org/pypi/pipsi/0.818:54
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jogodhellmann: thanks! dtroyer and I are plotting f2f18:56
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dhellmannjogo, dtroyer: cool, thanks, and let me know if I can help with reviews18:57
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jogodhellmann: will do, basic plan: use put trunk clients in virtualenvs and pin stable branch reqs including clients18:58
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dhellmannjogo: sounds good18:59
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dhellmannayoung: can you give me a status update on oslo.policy?19:24
ayoungoslo.policy lives.  dhellmann19:24
ayoungwe have a repo...what we do not yet have is a release19:24
dhellmannayoung: how close are we to a release? blocked on anything?19:24
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ayoungthe rest of the infrastrucutre seems to be ok19:24
ayoungdhellmann, I'll link to the current patches19:25
ayounghttps://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/oslo.policy,n,z19:25
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ayoungSo with those (all merged)  we have a working library19:25
dhellmannayoung: ok, the only one still open is the .gitignore change19:26
ayoungmorganfainberg, we have dhellmann 's attention.  What do we need  for a release?19:26
ayoungdhellmann, that is not a release blocker19:26
jogodhellmann: first unwind https://review.openstack.org/15092819:26
dhellmannayoung: yeah, I would hope not :-)19:26
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ayoungdhellmann, I think we need you to dothe relase;  it is olso, so different group19:26
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dhellmannayoung: I can do the release, but didn't want to do it too soon.19:27
dhellmannjogo: "unwind"?19:27
morganfainbergayoung, dhellmann, afaict we're good. changes are happy and all. so whenever you aren't swamped with oslo.XXXX causing gate splody19:27
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morganfainbergdhellmann, s/changes/gate for oslo.policy19:27
ayoungdhellmann, fire away19:27
dhellmannmorganfainberg: ok, I'll schedule it for tomorrow morning19:27
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dhellmannayoung: ^^19:27
ayoungthank you19:27
morganfainbergdhellmann, great19:27
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ayoungdhellmann, feel free to mark the BP as implemented once we have that19:27
ayoungand thanks19:28
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dhellmannayoung: yep19:28
dhellmann(on the bp_)19:28
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jogodhellmann: decoupling of dependencies19:29
jogodhellmann: first issue I hit with pinning19:29
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dhellmannjogo: ah, I see.19:30
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dhellmannayoung, morganfainberg : looks like we need API docs and to remove some of those incubated modules that are in oslo.concurrency19:35
* morganfainberg lets ayoung drive that.19:35
dhellmannayoung, morganfainberg : I'll work on the docs19:35
ayoungdhellmann, "looks like" meaning there are tests that fail because of it, or because we just should have them19:36
ayoungthanks19:36
dhellmannayoung: because they are not there and we don't release undocumented libraries19:36
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ayoungdhellmann, ok,  so just something you saw in a review, not something from an automated test19:36
dhellmannyeah, I'm looking over the code now19:36
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dhellmannayoung: we should also talk about how many of these public symbols need to be public (BaseCheck, for example, do we expect people to subclass that?)19:43
ayoungdhellmann, yes, we do19:43
dhellmannayoung: ok19:43
ayoungthat is how a user would implement their own19:43
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dhellmannhow about AndCheck?19:44
ayoungwhich I would expect to happen periodically19:44
ayoungdhellmann, well...that should be exposed via the json parsing etc....19:44
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dhellmannit's ok if we want to make them public, I just want to actually discuss it19:44
ayoungI wouldn't expect people to actually call them from python, but they are the public interface.  I say they should be public19:44
ayoungany of the checks that a user can use from JSON/evaluate should be public19:45
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dhellmannayoung: makes sense19:53
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SpamapSshardy: ah keystoneclient still does it20:07
SpamapSshardy: when you create a user you have to have the ID20:07
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shardySpamapS: aha!  I haven't hit it lately so assumed it was fixed20:08
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dhellmannayoung, morganfainberg : looking through the current repo I see a few other things we probably want to do before we release. I'll file bugs so we have a list to work from20:17
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ayoungdhellmann, thanks20:17
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dhellmannayoung, morganfainberg : https://launchpad.net/oslo.policy/+milestone/next-kilo20:31
ayoungdhellmann, https://bugs.launchpad.net/oslo.policy/+bug/1415626  no global conf object.  So we expect the caller to provide it?20:33
dhellmannayoung: yes20:33
dhellmannayoung: they can use a global if they want, but the library shouldn't assume that20:33
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ayoungthat will prevent it from being a drop in replacement20:33
dhellmannayoung: yep20:33
dhellmannayoung: we don't necessarily need it to be 100% drop-in20:34
ayoungtrue20:34
dhellmannayoung: this is what we're doing with the other libs, too20:34
ayoungI'll take it20:34
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ayoungdhellmann, do we grandfather in the use of cfg.CONF or error out?20:42
dhellmannayoung: we should not touch cfg.CONF directly at all20:44
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ayoungdhellmann, OK, I'll make it the first param, and make it non-optional then20:44
dhellmannright20:44
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zzzeekdhellmann: ive actually finished the pymysql document now, which at mondays meeting wasn’t at all complete, ill be posting to the list in a bit: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/PyMySQL_evaluation20:51
dhellmannzzzeek: ok, sounds good20:51
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zzzeekmarun: i have to do a call now, might be able to chat for a bit in 45-60 min, otherwise maybe send me a quick email what the general issue is21:00
marunzzzeek: actually, no issue.  I was fishing for a review of Ann's patch since I don't really trust myself enough to merge db stuff without your +1.21:01
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marunzzzeek: But I see you've already given a +1 to the patch in question, so thank you!21:01
zzzeekmarun: oh.  yeah that patch was not a biggie. the transaciton isolation one is more so.   SQLAlchemy lacks API there21:02
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marunzzzeek: I think enikanorov_ is pursuing an entirely different approach: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/149261/21:02
zzzeekah21:03
marunzzzeek: your oversight would be surely be appreciated there as well.21:03
zzzeekmarun: yeah21:03
zzzeekb.c. we already have this in oslo.db21:03
marunzzzeek: +1 to your centralizing best practice via oslo.db. Maybe we should have a conversation in the near future so I can get up to speed with your efforts and make sure I can promote them when I review.21:04
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zzzeekmarun: sure21:04
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ayoungdhellmann, shou;ld21:10
ayoungdhellmann, shouldn't policy have a requirements.txt file21:11
ayoungdisregard21:11
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enikanorov_zzzeek: marun: oslo.db has what we need. almost :)21:13
zzzeekenikanorov_: yeah, so we enahnce the feature in oslo.db so it doesnt hve to keep getting reinvented21:13
enikanorov_zzzeek: marun: we need the ability to pass custom exception there, not just deadlock/disconnect21:13
zzzeekenikanorov_: sure.  lets do it upstream21:13
zzzeekenikanorov_: there might be a review still pending on that feature as well which reorganizses it, not sure if it got merged21:14
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zzzeekenikanorov_: ah it was merged21:14
zzzeekenikanorov_: just yesterday https://review.openstack.org/#/c/109549/21:15
zzzeekenikanorov_: so lets do the next iteration21:15
enikanorov_zzzeek: i don't think it's exactly what we need21:15
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enikanorov_or are you suggesting that wrapped code will raise deadlock exception?21:15
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zzzeekenikanorov_: i see logic that a. catches an exception and b. retries.  the specific exception is easy to make open ended21:16
zzzeekenikanorov_: if we want to add “retry” to oslo.db, easy enough21:17
enikanorov_ok, so the feature still needs to be improved21:17
enikanorov_yep, and how about base this retry on 'retrying' library?21:17
enikanorov_(just not to reinvent the wheel)21:17
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zzzeekenikanorov_: meaning what21:17
enikanorov_arosen pointed out that there is generic library that does retries21:18
enikanorov_so what oslo.db has and what i've been trying to implement is a small subset of it21:18
zzzeekenikanorov_: oh is there….OK without even seeing it, skeptical.  this is a very simple use case.  3rd party lib for something this simple sounds spooky21:18
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zzzeekenikanorov_: yeah….spooky :).  id have to see.21:19
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enikanorov_that's a fun argument to hear :)21:19
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zzzeekenikanorov_: this is injection of control flow.   it affects behavior intricately.  not having easy exposure to it (e.g. a related openstack lib) makes me nervous.  would ahve to see this lib.  would prefer to just stick wtih the simple thing we have until a use case for what 3rd party lib offers21:19
enikanorov_i'd like to use it as well!21:19
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zzzeekenikanorov_: but send it along, sure21:20
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enikanorov_zzzeek: i mean i would prefer to go with simpler version implemented in neutron rather then go with oslo.db improvement revies cycles, bumping requirements, and then back to initial patch21:21
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zzzeekenikanorov_: this is a probelm though.  projects are constantly implementing the same thing over and over, differently, not always correctly, and oslo.db would prefer to control database use patterns21:22
zzzeekenikanorov_: oslo.db is right here in openstack.  we dont ahve to reach out to an unknown person on github to affecvt it21:22
enikanorov_zzzeek: agree.21:22
zzzeekenikanorov_: its not a 3rd party lib21:22
enikanorov_zzzeek: do i need a bug to push a patch?21:23
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zzzeekenikanorov_: might i ask you pursue both for the moment, propose the change you want to the oslo.db feature and also do your neutron version independently if youre in a hurry21:23
zzzeekenikanorov_: no21:23
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enikanorov_zzzeek: ok21:23
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zzzeekenikanorov_: just push up a gerrit and link to the neutron case21:23
zzzeekenikanorov_: if it gets bikeshedded in oslo.db then, well stick w/ the neutron version :)21:24
zzzeekenikanorov_: if/when oslo.db improves then we can push taht into neutron21:24
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enikanorov_ok21:24
zzzeekenikanorov_: but this is an easy one, i think21:24
enikanorov_zzzeek: i hope so :)21:24
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devanandadhellmann: hi! is there way to set a custom header in pecan? like, in an after hook21:40
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devanandadhellmann: I've been digging in the docs for pecan and webob, but webob seems to be ignoring when I add new, non-standard headers, like X-OpenStack-foo21:41
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mriedemstevemar: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1410622/comments/1121:52
mtreinishmorganfainberg: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/145607/ should be quick21:53
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dhellmanndevananda: I'm sure there is. I don't know off the top of my head. Did you ask ryanpetrello in #pecan?22:03
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stevemarthanks mriedem22:14
stevemarmriedem, you've been in a meeting for most of the day according to s/t22:15
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mriedemstevemar: idk what you're talking about......22:15
* mriedem uses some kind of jedi mind trick22:15
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stevemarmriedem, yes... meetings... i mean totally busy22:16
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mriedemstevemar: well both really, 3+ hours of meetings too22:17
mriedemstevemar: anyway, i'm basically looking at ripping off that ec2-api change and cherry picking it into nova and seeing if that fixes the problem22:18
stevemarmriedem, taking a quick look and comparing now... would you consider using the one from keystoneclient?22:20
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mriedemstevemar: i'll consider anything22:21
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mriedemwow, that's not a small method22:22
mriedemis there some way nova could just use some code from keystoneclient?22:23
mriedemor move that into middleware, idk22:23
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mriedemseems like heat could be using the same thing, just use the code in keystone22:24
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stevemarmriedem, yeah it would be best if we're all using the same way to calculate the sig, if we're doing it wrong, at least its in one spot22:26
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mriedemsounds like a new oslo lib is in order!22:26
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stevemari think you'd be stuck importing ksc22:26
stevemartrue!22:26
stevemaroslo.crypto? oh god i feel dirty proposing that22:27
stevemarmaybe toss it under utils?22:27
mriedemwell, let me dink around with having nova try to use the code in keystoneclient22:27
stevemarmriedem, sounds good22:28
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enikanorov_zzzeek: is that what you were thinking about? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/151017/22:29
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devanandadhellmann: #pecan and #openstack-pecan are empty22:30
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zzzeekenikanorov_: maybe, i need to re-review the original retry system.  i think it works that way right.22:31
* zzzeek needs to step away for a bit...22:31
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enikanorov_zzzeek: thanks for the feedback22:31
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dhellmanndevananda: :-( he might be offline for the night22:33
dhellmanndevananda: oh, duh, it's #pecanpy22:34
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mriedemstevemar: omfg https://review.openstack.org/#/c/151020/22:35
mriedemATC x2!22:35
mriedemha, gotta love having a typo in your commit message for a commit that fixes a typo22:35
mriedemthat only happens in ironic22:35
stevemarmriedem, i actually laughed at each line that you just wrote22:37
zigomordred: Hey monty, don't bother reinventing the wheel, we could start using DEbian VOTe EnginE [devotee]: https://vote.debian.org/~secretary/devotee.git/22:37
zigomordred: This uses condorcet and PGP.22:37
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zigoThat'd be a *very* good way to force everyone into PGP.22:37
zigo:)22:37
zigoI'm not sure if PGP is mandatory though.22:38
zigomordred: Also, I'm certain you could get help from Debian people if you want to deploy it.22:38
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zigoI'd trust that *a way more* than any site-based voting.22:39
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zigoannegentle: I've been staring stupidly at my screen trying to fix my patch at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/147296/ because of an invalid XML bug I did.22:48
zigoWhat's the usual way to find them out?22:48
zigoWhen I do "mvn clean generate-sources -Doperating.system=apt-debian -Dprofile.os=debian" the output isn't very helpful... :(22:48
mriedemstevemar: when constructing the Ec2Signer, where does that secret key come from? is that something nova generates?22:49
mriedemor does that come in on the request?22:49
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stevemarmriedem, thats the 'secret' field signer = ec2_utils.Ec2Signer(creds_ref['secret'])22:50
mriedemyeah trying to figure out where creds_ref['secret'] comes from22:51
stevemarmriedem, from your example in the bug, i'm guessing it would be u'd53885bfa7ce4c57bcad80c9d30d1b7122:51
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mriedemoh right...22:52
mriedemlooking back on that22:52
mriedemoh right that's the failure in the keystone code22:53
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stevemarim assuming the whole flow is something like... nova creates an ec2 credential (using keystone), which returns key and secret,22:53
zigoHum... I think I've found my issue. I can't use the <note> tag anywhere I want.22:54
zigoI wonder what the rules are though...22:54
stevemarkeystone creates a signature when it does that22:54
stevemarand when the ec2 credential is used, nova and keystone are both generating signatures and comparing themn22:54
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mriedemok, i don't see nova creating an ec2 credential using keystone22:56
zigoFound it! maven wants <note><para> ... </para></note>. That's pretty annoying...22:58
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mriedemxml ftw22:59
mriedempom.xml22:59
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mriedemstevemar: i'm going to give up for the day, i'm not understanding this really, will look at it again tomorrow23:03
mriedemthanks for the help though23:04
stevemarnp, we'll figure it out23:04
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kbrierlyNOTE: all irc servers will be rebooted in he next 15 minutes to patch ghost vulnrability23:35
kbrierlysorry ignore23:35
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