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| jogo | jgriffith: ping | 00:47 |
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| jgriffith | jogo: yo | 00:47 |
| jogo | jgriffith: got a cinder question | 00:47 |
| jogo | jgriffith: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-December/052708.html | 00:47 |
| jogo | clarkb: ^ | 00:47 |
| jgriffith | jogo: lay it on my | 00:47 |
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| jogo | greghaynes: ^ | 00:47 |
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| jogo | jgriffith: does cinder work inside of a container? | 00:47 |
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| jgriffith | jogo: funny you should ask :) | 00:48 |
| jogo | as it looks like os-ansible-deplyoment is running cinder | 00:48 |
| jgriffith | jogo: so it depends | 00:48 |
| jogo | and kolla may as well | 00:48 |
| jgriffith | jogo: I've got it to work if I "don't" use LVM | 00:48 |
| clarkb | jgriffith: how did you get iscsid to work? | 00:48 |
| jgriffith | clarkb: that's the part I can't get to work :) | 00:48 |
| clarkb | right | 00:49 |
| jgriffith | clarkb: thus the qualifier, "if I don't run LVM" | 00:49 |
| jgriffith | clarkb: I can use another backend pretty easily | 00:49 |
| clarkb | jgriffith: I guess I don't understand how those are related | 00:49 |
| clarkb | I thought iscsi was how you attached all volumes regardless of backend | 00:49 |
| jgriffith | clarkb: different backend, non reference | 00:49 |
| jogo | jgriffith: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/stackforge/kolla/tree/docker/cinder/start.sh | 00:49 |
| jgriffith | clarkb: say... SolidFire | 00:49 |
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| jgriffith | but there are still a couple things that fall apart | 00:49 |
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| jgriffith | hmmm | 00:50 |
| clarkb | jgriffith: so a solidfire backed volume is not served via iscsi? or it is and solidfire does all of the iscsid for me so Idon't need to run one? | 00:50 |
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| jgriffith | clarkb: it does all the iscsi for you | 00:50 |
| clarkb | jgriffith: gotcha | 00:50 |
| jgriffith | clarkb: but it falls apart if you do things like image-volume or backups | 00:51 |
| jgriffith | becuase we use the Cinder node as a worker for that | 00:51 |
| clarkb | jogo: jgriffith so you could in theory run cinder python processes in containers and have them talk to non containered iscsid? | 00:51 |
| greghaynes | ah, so its just rpc'ing out of the container to do the iscsi work | 00:51 |
| jgriffith | clarkb: thats' what I was thinking about next | 00:51 |
| greghaynes | maybe we could do that more generally :) | 00:51 |
| greghaynes | yep | 00:51 |
| jgriffith | clarkb: was a way to set up some sort of "proxy" or something to do the iscsi | 00:51 |
| clarkb | this is where I get less interested in containers for isolation :) | 00:51 |
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| clarkb | because we basically undo all of that | 00:51 |
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| jgriffith | clarkb: yeah.. it's not as rosie as it sounds | 00:51 |
| jgriffith | IMHO | 00:52 |
| clarkb | but potentially still useful for deployment and testing and so on | 00:52 |
| jgriffith | but I'm new to containers, so I may be missing some things | 00:52 |
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| jgriffith | jogo: that kolla work.... | 00:52 |
| clarkb | jgriffith: if it helps your understanding seems to line up wiht mine :) | 00:52 |
| clarkb | jgriffith: we can both be wrong together | 00:52 |
| jgriffith | jogo: I *think* they're leaving the volume-service out | 00:52 |
| jgriffith | which won't work | 00:52 |
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| jgriffith | clarkb: haha :) | 00:52 |
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| jgriffith | clarkb: jogo for what it's worth I did talk to some folks last Fall about solving the iscsi problem somehow | 00:53 |
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| jgriffith | but I think they looked into it and lost interest :( | 00:53 |
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| clarkb | jgriffith: I know at one point we talked to kernel devs | 00:53 |
| clarkb | where we is not me but SpamapS and lifeless iirc | 00:53 |
| jgriffith | clarkb: yeah, I wish I could remember the fuys name | 00:53 |
| clarkb | and they basically said lolno its too much work | 00:53 |
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| jgriffith | it wasn't an OpenStack Contributor, it was a fella from Europe workign directly on Container/Kernel efforts | 00:54 |
| clarkb | ya | 00:54 |
| clarkb | and maybe things have changed and we should look at it again but at the time my understanding was that no one was interested in fixing it because of the effort vs benefit | 00:54 |
| jgriffith | clarkb: jogo so short answer today is "nope, can't make it work" | 00:54 |
| jogo | hmm http://git.openstack.org/cgit/stackforge/os-ansible-deployment/tree/rpc_deployment/inventory/group_vars/cinder_all.yml#n66 | 00:54 |
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| jgriffith | clarkb: jogo but I'm very interested and started playing with it last week | 00:54 |
| clarkb | jogo: that will run cinder-volume which can run in a container. iscsid is the problem | 00:55 |
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| jgriffith | clarkb: well that's interesting though | 00:55 |
| jogo | jgriffith: can you respond to the ML thread with a question http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-December/052708.html | 00:55 |
| jgriffith | They specify the c-vol service with iscsi | 00:56 |
| jgriffith | jogo: absolutely... | 00:56 |
| jgriffith | gimmie a few to read through it a bit | 00:56 |
| jgriffith | jogo: thanks for poking me | 00:56 |
| jogo | as I don't know enough about this to ask an intelligent question besides 'I thought this wasn't possible' | 00:56 |
| clarkb | jgriffith: but that doens' seem to run an iscsid service | 00:56 |
| jgriffith | clarkb: well, then it doesn't "do anything" | 00:56 |
| jgriffith | :) | 00:56 |
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| jgriffith | clarkb: it would just be an exercise in deployment | 00:56 |
| clarkb | yup | 00:56 |
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| jgriffith | clarkb: with all the options set | 00:57 |
| jogo | here are there jobs https://review.openstack.org/#/c/139264/ | 00:57 |
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| jogo | jgriffith: thanks for looking into this! time to go outside before the biblical rain starts here http://sfist.com/2014/12/08/big_rain_is_headed_our_way_wednesda.php | 00:59 |
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| greghaynes | jogo: its already started here | 01:00 |
| greghaynes | I think were all going to get blasted by the same storm :/ | 01:00 |
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| jogo | greghaynes: looks like it yeah | 01:01 |
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| jogo | http://forecast.io/#/f/37.7600,-122.4850 shows it | 01:01 |
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| greghaynes | jgriffith: So has there been any talk about making an rpc api for doing the iscsid work outside of a container? | 01:01 |
| jgriffith | Wow! | 01:01 |
| jgriffith | jogo: stay dry | 01:02 |
| jogo | jgriffith: thanks | 01:02 |
| jgriffith | jogo: although my understanding is you guys are making up for a serious deficit | 01:02 |
| jgriffith | so that's kinda good | 01:02 |
| jgriffith | greghaynes: I haven't heard of any... but that is what i was considering | 01:02 |
| jgriffith | greghaynes: or something "like" it | 01:02 |
| greghaynes | In a past life we made a system to solve the exact same problem but with running nfs in a container | 01:02 |
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| jgriffith | greghaynes: yeah, the nfs idea is intersting, but personally I think there *has* to be a way to do it with iSCSI :) | 01:03 |
| jgriffith | greghaynes: ohhh... wait | 01:03 |
| jgriffith | greghaynes: I see what your'e saying | 01:03 |
| jgriffith | greghaynes: hmmm | 01:03 |
| greghaynes | Yep, its just the same issue - you cant do the nfs commands inside a container | 01:03 |
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| jgriffith | greghaynes: yeah... I'm with ya know | 01:04 |
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| jgriffith | interesting | 01:04 |
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| jgriffith | greghaynes: I'll pick your brain later depending on what comes back on the ML :) | 01:04 |
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| jgriffith | greghaynes: I'm new to containers (like 6 days now for an hour or so at night before bed) | 01:04 |
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| greghaynes | hah, ok | 01:05 |
| jgriffith | so I'm certainly not sure of all the little tricks that might be possible | 01:05 |
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| jgriffith | ok... I'm out... night all | 01:12 |
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| greghaynes | gn | 01:16 |
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| jgriffith | clarkb: jogo looking at their docs I don't think it's running in a container at all | 01:20 |
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| jgriffith | clarkb: jogo anyway, sure they'll respond and let me know | 01:20 |
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| jogo | jgriffith: thanks | 01:50 |
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| nirupma | should the bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-openstackclient/+bug/1371975 be fixed in openstackclient or keystoneclient? | 09:49 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1371975 in python-openstackclient "openstack user show <username> call is ineffcient." [Low,In progress] | 09:49 |
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| nirupma | should the bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-openstackclient/+bug/1371975 be fixed in openstackclient or keystoneclient?` | 12:45 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1371975 in python-openstackclient "openstack user show <username> call is ineffcient." [Low,In progress] | 12:45 |
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| dtroyer | nirupma: I posted a comment to the bug, basically, changing find_resource() is tricky because it is used everywhere and has to work for the widely varying APIs in OpenStack. | 12:54 |
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| sdague | dhellmann: I seem to be getting a deprecation warning on oslo.concurrency import even after I remove all the references in the nova code. Is it possible to make the import warning include 1 more stack level to figure out who is importing it? | 13:21 |
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| nirupma | dtroyer: In the current find_resource(), for any argument it first tries it as a no then as it is (name) and finally iterates through all the data values.The bug is that it fails for {username} even though /user?name=<user_name> is defined Ãn both keystone and keystoneclient. My question is that as the keystoneclient call fails, shouldn't it be a bug in keystoneclient? | 13:32 |
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| dtroyer | nirupma: probably, it is ksc that is responsible for those sorts of nuances in the REST API | 13:33 |
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| nirupma | dtroyer: thank you | 13:35 |
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| smcginnis | clear | 13:58 |
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| sdague | morganfainberg: so... what would your suggestions be on addressing a bug like this - https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1401437 | 14:31 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1401437 in nova "nova passes incorrect authentication info to cinderclient" [High,Confirmed] | 14:31 |
| morganfainberg | sdague, looking now | 14:31 |
| morganfainberg | sdague, so if i'm reading this right, the issue is token refresh | 14:32 |
| sdague | yep | 14:32 |
| morganfainberg | so is this using the user's token in this case or a nova token (e.g. service account)? | 14:33 |
| sdague | I believe the user token is used | 14:34 |
| morganfainberg | then we only have the token | 14:34 |
| sdague | right | 14:34 |
| morganfainberg | no username/password [we can't have the username/password] | 14:34 |
| sdague | correct | 14:34 |
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| morganfainberg | i have a thought on how to handle this, but it requires security review + policy being graduated - basically add another field in the policy.json that says something like accept_beyond_expiry(<seconds>) | 14:35 |
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| morganfainberg | otherwise, as it stands there isn't a way to refresh a token for a longer expiry | 14:36 |
| sdague | morganfainberg: could you provide those thoughts in the bug? | 14:36 |
| morganfainberg | sdague, yeah | 14:36 |
| sdague | great, thank you | 14:36 |
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| morganfainberg | the short answer is sucky: we can't refresh tokens and trying to do so with only a token value is semi-silly/bad atm | 14:37 |
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| morganfainberg | and we may need to revisit that line in some cases. | 14:37 |
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| morganfainberg | i'll put all that in the bug | 14:37 |
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| morganfainberg | sdague, responded to the bug | 14:46 |
| morganfainberg | sdague outlined things i said here and a couple other thoughts | 14:46 |
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| sdague | morganfainberg: thank you | 14:47 |
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| ZZelle_ | dhellmann, hi | 16:18 |
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| ZZelle_ | ayoung, hi | 16:45 |
| ayoung | ZZelle_, if you have a question, just ask it. Someone will likely answer, may not be me | 16:45 |
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| ZZelle_ | Does keystonemiddleware support v3 auth with explicit domains? According to doc, it seems to be no | 16:47 |
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| jgriffith | cloudnull: Thanks a bunch for the info last night by the way | 16:59 |
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| cloudnull | jgriffith: anytime. thanks for the review. | 17:00 |
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| bknudson | ZZelle_: it doesn't until a keystonemiddleware with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/129552/ is released. | 17:12 |
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| ZZelle_ | bknudson, ok, thanks | 17:13 |
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| jaypipes | sdague: one of my colleagues needs to submit a patch to stable/juno, and the patch to master involves code from an oslo.utils library that was only recently released. The code in Juno was in nova/openstack/common/. Should the patch she submits to stable/jumo be a cherry-pick, or since so much (virtually all) of the original patch to master in Kilo would need to be rewritten, should she simply forget the cherry-pick and c | 17:46 |
| jaypipes | reate a new patch... | 17:46 |
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| sdague | jaypipes: so I think in that case a pretty clear explanation in the commit message, which references the various reasons it's not a straight cherry pick (and references to all the relevant patches being merged) is probably appropriate | 17:59 |
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| jaypipes | sdague: got it. ty sir! | 18:00 |
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| sdague | honestly, I just approved a similar kind of fix the other day. When in doubt being extremely verbose in the commit message usually goes a long way | 18:01 |
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| dims | jaypipes: may consider an update to stable/juno branch of oslo-incubator as well? | 18:01 |
| jaypipes | dims: not sure... I suppose one might consider an update to stable/juno of oslo-incubator to be "features" not "fixes"? | 18:02 |
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| dims | jaypipes: ack, we can run it by dhellmann, we still haven't figured out what to push back to that branch | 18:04 |
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| dhellmann | sdague, dims, jaypipes: we keep the stable branches in the incubator specifically for this case. We should see a patch to oslo.utils, then the branch in the incubator, then sync that into the consuming project. If the change isn't needed in oslo.utils for some reason, that step can be skipped, but as sdague said explaining all of that in the commit message will go a long way. | 18:48 |
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| dhellmann | sdague: https://review.openstack.org/141125 -- I think the 1 value in the original there was from when I was trying to generate that warning outside of a function | 18:51 |
| sdague | dhellmann: yeh, so I made that change locally, and it didn't seem to help | 18:52 |
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| sdague | is there a test case for this to figure out if it's printing out the import point? | 18:53 |
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| dhellmann | sdague: there's a test to prove that the warning is generated, but I don't think it checks to that level | 18:55 |
| dhellmann | this may be a little weird because it is happening on import | 18:55 |
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| dhellmann | sdague: you could try running with -W 'error::DeprecationWarning:oslo.concurrency' | 18:58 |
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| sdague | yeh, I'll poke in a bit, I'm trying to figure out this testtools profiling thing at the moment | 18:59 |
| dhellmann | sdague: are you running nova's unit tests? | 18:59 |
| sdague | yes | 18:59 |
| dhellmann | ok, I'll poke around a bit here, too | 18:59 |
| dhellmann | sdague: is there a review I should be basing this on, or just master? | 18:59 |
| sdague | so... it's possible I missed one of the imports | 19:00 |
| sdague | when I wrote the hacking rule I found another one that I missed in git grep | 19:00 |
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| dhellmann | well, sure, but figuring out how to make this message more useful will be good anyway | 19:01 |
| sdague | yep | 19:01 |
| dhellmann | so should I use master, or is there a branch you're working in? | 19:01 |
| sdague | master still has an import | 19:02 |
| dhellmann | ok | 19:02 |
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| sdague | tox -e py27 will show it | 19:02 |
| dhellmann | I also see https://review.openstack.org/#/c/141117/ | 19:02 |
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| dhellmann | ok, I'll work from there | 19:02 |
| sdague | yeh, that's removing the last 2 imports, which looks to clear it up | 19:02 |
| dhellmann | ok, I'll work on making the message better in master then | 19:02 |
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| dhellmann | sdague: looks like we want that value to be 3. I added a test to the patch set ^^ | 19:20 |
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| sdague | dhellmann: cool, thanks! | 19:21 |
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| dims__ | sdague: dtroyer: i have a couple of one liners for devstack-gate, one of them stuck for a while...please take a look when you get a chance - https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack-infra/devstack-gate+owner:%22Davanum+Srinivas+%28dims%29+%253Cdavanum%2540gmail.com%253E%22,n,z | 22:31 |
| sdague | done | 22:31 |
| sdague | that's actually mostly -infra people | 22:32 |
| sdague | d-g is infra-core + me | 22:32 |
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