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| jaypipes | ayoung, dolphm: ping. question for you on what I should be seeing w.r.t. number of processes on a controller that are doing openssl cms -sign operations... | 15:33 |
| dolphm | jaypipes: this should be interesting :-/ | 15:34 |
| ayoung | jaypipes, sure | 15:34 |
| ayoung | jaypipes, there is a current patch out for closing pipes. | 15:34 |
| ayoung | no offense | 15:34 |
| jaypipes | ayoung: hi! :) so Peter Boros and I are running a bunch of benchmarks for our talk at the conference and doing some tuning... | 15:34 |
| ayoung | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/129456/ | 15:35 |
| * ayoung would love to have a real crypto library implementation, but for eventlet... | 15:35 | |
| jaypipes | ayoung: when I started tuning the number of worker processes for OpenStack services, I went to determine keystone's, and found that while there were only 2 worker processes for keystone-all, there were around 250 processes running openssl cms -sign | 15:35 |
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| jaypipes | ayoung: wondered if that is "normal"... | 15:35 |
| ayoung | jaypipes, one per request | 15:35 |
| jaypipes | ayoung: we have a rally benchmark at 96 concurrency, starting 1000 instances. | 15:36 |
| ayoung | jaypipes, is it possible that they are not getting cleaned up? Or do you really have that heavy a load? | 15:36 |
| ayoung | I'd expect one per new request, with CMS tokens being cached on subsequent requests | 15:36 |
| jaypipes | ayoung: yeah, it's a rally benchmark with the nova fake virt driver (so it stresses everything non-compute) | 15:36 |
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| jaypipes | ayoung: so, DB, MQ, keystone and neutron comms, etc | 15:36 |
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| jaypipes | ayoung: it's not producing too heavy an I/O load, but I was going to change the number of workers for keystone-all to match neutron-server and nova-api (64 workers) and I wondered if the openssl cms -sign processes would balloon like crazy if I did that | 15:37 |
| ayoung | jaypipes, if it is staying constant at 250 processes, and the processes are turning over (not hanging, not going zombie) than I would say it is an artifact of load | 15:37 |
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| jaypipes | ayoung: actually, there *are* about 10-20 defunct processes.. | 15:37 |
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| jaypipes | ayoung: per each rally run. and they don't get cleaned up. | 15:38 |
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| dolphm | jaypipes: i don't think it really affects the concern, but stable/juno? master? | 15:39 |
| jaypipes | ayoung: I want to make sure I understand where these processes are coming from... could you confirm that they are spawned in greenthreads to validate a PKI token on each request to Keystone? is that correct? or is this the keystone middleware in the other WSGI processes that is doing this? | 15:39 |
| jaypipes | dolphm: stable/icehouse. | 15:39 |
| dolphm | jaypipes: cms -sign is generating new tokens | 15:40 |
| jaypipes | dolphm: ubuntu cloud archive packages. | 15:40 |
| jaypipes | dolphm: oh, ok. so this is definitely a keystone-all thing, yes? | 15:40 |
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| dolphm | jaypipes: yes, but you'd see the same behavior behind apache, i suspect | 15:40 |
| * jaypipes just trying to understand what's going on... | 15:40 | |
| ayoung | jaypipes, you will also see a process in keystone middleware validating the token | 15:40 |
| dolphm | jaypipes: (unless you switch to UUID and avoid using openssl altogether) | 15:40 |
| dolphm | ayoung: what does that openssl call look like? | 15:41 |
| ayoung | openssl cms -verify | 15:41 |
| jaypipes | dolphm: we may do that to compare, but of course I want to make sure I'm tuning the environment for each setup as appropriately as possible... | 15:41 |
| dolphm | jaypipes: ++ | 15:41 |
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| jaypipes | ayoung: OK, benchmark run is now done... let me restart it and monitor for the middleware -verify thing.. one sec. | 15:42 |
| jaypipes | ayoung: BTW, no defunct processes left after benchmark run completes... | 15:42 |
| jaypipes | which is good :) | 15:42 |
| jaypipes | \o/ | 15:42 |
| ayoung | jaypipes, this is an all-in-one deployment, I take it? | 15:43 |
| dolphm | jaypipes: the process lifespan for openssl calls should be very quick, but i can't think of why you would/should be seeing more cms -sign processes than you have keystone-all workers | 15:43 |
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| dolphm | jaypipes: unless you're counting `openssl cms -sign` and `openssl cms -verify` together as 250 processes, which would make sense | 15:43 |
| jaypipes | ayoung: no. this is multi-node (3 galera nodes, one controller, one compute, one node for rally benchmark tool) | 15:43 |
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| ayoung | jaypipes, all-in-one-controller | 15:43 |
| jaypipes | ah, yes. sorry! | 15:44 |
| ayoung | compute doesn't validate tokens, I'm guessing | 15:44 |
| dolphm | ayoung: why would it not? | 15:44 |
| ayoung | dolphm, compute is not nova api server | 15:44 |
| ayoung | compute is just hypervisor plus nova compute | 15:44 |
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| dolphm | ah i see what you mean | 15:44 |
| ayoung | they talk via the message bus | 15:44 |
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| jaypipes | right | 15:45 |
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| ayoung | so, yeah, PKI tokens are going to seem a bit heavy weight, but then again, openstack was not defined for the all-in-one use case | 15:45 |
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| jaypipes | dolphm: so I don't see any openssl cms -verify processes in ps aux output. only -sign | 15:46 |
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| dolphm | ayoung: why would -sign processes hang around? you'd think there'd be 500 errors on token generation if that was the case, at least? | 15:46 |
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| ayoung | dolphm, they shouldn't | 15:47 |
| ayoung | let me see what the actuall call is | 15:47 |
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| dolphm | jaypipes: i'm afraid to ask how many -sign processes you see if keystone-all is limited to 1 worker, but everything else runs exactly as you have it configured now | 15:47 |
| ayoung | https://github.com/openstack/python-keystoneclient/blob/master/keystoneclient/common/cms.py#L143 | 15:47 |
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| dolphm | ayoung: (that's not the hanging call though) | 15:48 |
| ayoung | jaypipes, are the processes the same from viewing to viewing, or are they getting new pids? | 15:48 |
| dolphm | ayoung: L330 | 15:48 |
| jaypipes | ayoung: same pids. | 15:48 |
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| ayoung | dolphm, that is the verify call, and there should be roughly a 1 to 1 correspondance | 15:48 |
| ayoung | jaypipes, ok, they are not getting closed or cleaned up or something. That is a bug | 15:49 |
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| dolphm | ayoung: wait, this could totally be https://review.openstack.org/#/c/129456/ | 15:49 |
| ayoung | dolphm, my thinking, too | 15:49 |
| jaypipes | ayoung: is this the close_fds thing that Xu Chen had broought up on the ML you think? | 15:49 |
| ayoung | jaypipes, could be | 15:49 |
| jaypipes | ah, bingo :) | 15:49 |
| dolphm | jaypipes: can you run with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/129456/ applied to keystoneclient? ( ayoung does that need to be applied to keystone in icehouse, or had it been removed at that point? ) | 15:50 |
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| ayoung | dolphm, its been out of keystoneclient for a while now | 15:50 |
| ayoung | I think icehouse was in client, let me confirm | 15:50 |
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| dolphm | https://github.com/openstack/keystone/tree/stable/icehouse/keystone/common | 15:51 |
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| dolphm | it was keystone.common.cms IIRC | 15:51 |
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| ayoung | what tag was that | 15:52 |
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| ayoung | 2014.1 | 15:53 |
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| jaypipes | we're running 2014.1.3 | 15:54 |
| dolphm | jaypipes: you should just need that one patch then, in keystoneclient on keystone-all's node | 15:54 |
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| ayoung | yep | 15:54 |
| dolphm | jaypipes: although any instance of auth_token will benefit from it as well | 15:55 |
| jaypipes | dolphm: k, lemme try that and see what happens. | 15:55 |
| ayoung | dolphm, I might have it wrong, but I think the last branch/tag that had cms out of keystone server was havana-eol | 15:55 |
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| dolphm | ayoung: sounds right to me | 15:55 |
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| jaypipes | dolphm, ayoung: bingo. | 16:04 |
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| dolphm | jaypipes: fixed? | 16:04 |
| ayoung | jaypipes, good to know. | 16:04 |
| jaypipes | dolph, ayoung:yup. | 16:04 |
| dolphm | yay! | 16:05 |
| jaypipes | no more openssl processes left open. | 16:05 |
| ayoung | jaypipes, add that to the code review, please | 16:05 |
| ayoung | bknudson, can you remove your -1 on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/129456/ | 16:05 |
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| ayoung | we have confirmation from jaypipes that it is a real problem | 16:05 |
| ayoung | dolphm, can you weigh in on the review as well? Lets get that one merged | 16:06 |
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| dolphm | ayoung: bknudson: already approved. i think the author addressed bknudson's comment anyway | 16:06 |
| jaypipes | ayoung: done | 16:06 |
| bknudson | so what's the rule? we have to use close_fds=True everywhere? | 16:07 |
| ayoung | thanks guys | 16:07 |
| dolphm | morganfainberg: we should have a release of keystoneclient as soon as that merges ^ | 16:07 |
| bknudson | is there a bug in Popen? | 16:07 |
| jaypipes | ayoung: tagged the bug with icehouse and juno backport... | 16:07 |
| ayoung | bknudson, not sure. It might be | 16:07 |
| bknudson | ok... we just make changes and hope they work? | 16:07 |
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| jaypipes | bknudson: I have confirmed that the patch does indeed fix the problem. | 16:08 |
| ayoung | jaypipes, cool, although the changes to KC should work with icehouse and juno code basis, no need to backport | 16:08 |
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| ayoung | they can use the updated KC code instead | 16:08 |
| jaypipes | ayoung: oh, I see.. yeah KC version 2.1.8+ | 16:08 |
| jaypipes | we have 2.1.7 installed IIRC | 16:08 |
| jaypipes | sorry, that was nova client :) | 16:09 |
| jaypipes | keystone --version shows 0.7.1 | 16:09 |
| dolphm | sounds right for icehouse - but you should be able to run 0.11.0 or whatever we're on now :) | 16:09 |
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| jaypipes | yay for live debugging. | 16:09 |
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| jaypipes | thx dolphm and ayoung. much appreciate your help today! | 16:10 |
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| dolphm | jaypipes: /salute | 16:10 |
| jaypipes | salute tha solution! | 16:10 |
| ayoung | Eyes Right! REady..Front! | 16:11 |
| dolphm | it's fun when there's already a patch out there :P | 16:11 |
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| ayoung | I wish there were a better solution to calling opensll | 16:11 |
| ayoung | ssl even | 16:11 |
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| ayoung | http://adam.younglogic.com/2014/06/why-popen-for-openssl-calls/ | 16:11 |
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| dolphm | ++ | 16:12 |
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| * ayoung should look into writing a python native interface that does the clone thing pixelb suggested | 16:13 | |
| jaypipes | ayoung: "poopen". | 16:13 |
| ayoung | is that German? | 16:13 |
| jaypipes | hahahaa | 16:13 |
| jaypipes | rofl | 16:14 |
| jaypipes | ayoung: that literally just made my day. thank you. | 16:14 |
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| morganfainberg | dolphm: sounds good | 16:35 |
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| coreycb | ihrachyshka, hi, would you be more apt to +1 this if the defaults were the same as the hard-coded values? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/129276/ | 16:56 |
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| ihrachyshka | coreycb: probably, but I'll check that case with more attention tomorrow | 16:57 |
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| coreycb | ihrachyshka, thanks, I'd appreciate that | 16:57 |
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| pc_m_ | david-lyle: hey | 17:40 |
| david-lyle | pc_m_, hi | 17:40 |
| pc_m_ | david-lyle: FYI, Horizon issue fixed. Had a version of pyscss that was incompatible. | 17:41 |
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| pc_m_ | david-lyle: Once corrected, everything works as expected. | 17:41 |
| david-lyle | ok, I'm glad it's working | 17:41 |
| david-lyle | What version did you have? | 17:41 |
| pc_m_ | david-lyle: Just thought I'd let you know for closure... :) | 17:42 |
| david-lyle | I appreciate that. Helps to know we don't have an ongoing issue | 17:42 |
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| pc_m_ | david-lyle: for sure | 17:42 |
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| _gryf | hey all | 18:00 |
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| jedix | thanks everyone for all the help. I would have liked to have contributed more back to the community. | 20:45 |
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| mgrandi | can someone like, approve this: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/121225/ its a 1 line change and is kinda important to the entire thing running if you don't know how to fix it | 23:45 |
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