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jichenhi, do anyone know how to enable debug info when doing unit test?05:18
jichenonly shows some audit logs05:18
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jichencyeoh: hi chris, do you know how to enable debug info when doing unit test? (the logs as LOG.debug)06:41
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dheeraj-gupta-4Hi, please have a look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1211011 . All the solutions we have in mind for this bug require concurrence of nova/nova-cells developers.11:31
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1211011 in nova "A flavor created in the parent cell is not propagated to the child" [Undecided,Confirmed]11:31
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sdagueflaper87: are you reading the nova utf8 thread?11:34
flaper87sdague: I am not but based on your question I think I should11:34
flaper87:D11:34
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sdagueyeh... so apparently glance 500s when 4 byte utf8 is pushed at it11:34
sdaguewhich I didn't realize11:34
sdagueand I don't know if there is a bug or test for it up there11:34
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sdagueit's because the mysql columns are 3 byte utf8 by default I think11:35
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sdaguethat seems kind of a like a critical bug that should be fixed11:35
sdagueit's ended up impacting the nova allowed values conversation, because things explode going to glance, so the nova surface is probably a lot more conservative than it should be11:36
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flaper87oh dear lord. FWIW, glance's handling of incoming/outgoing encodings is broken. I've tried to raise this as a critical issue a couple of times and I've done some work on trying to fix it in some areas of the project. I really think this part needs kind of an urgent attention. That said, give me 2s to read the thread and chime in. Based on waht you just said it does seem to be critical11:37
flaper87I'll pull off some time to address this issue11:37
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alexpilottiihrachyshka: hi11:56
ihrachyshkaalexpilotti: hi11:56
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alexpilottiihrachyshka: me and claudiub are wondering how to handle _LW() in backports to Icehouse11:57
alexpilottiihrachyshka: do we repalce them with _()?11:57
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ihrachyshkaalexpilotti: if _LW is not avail, yes11:57
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ihrachyshka_LW comes from incubator, so mileage may vary depending on project11:58
alexpilottiihrachyshka: it’s actually there in gettextutils, but afaik translators don’t use it11:58
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alexpilottiihrachyshka: I mean, don’t use it in pre-Juno11:58
ihrachyshkaah, well... so what's going on with those _LW messages in pre-Juno? not translated?11:58
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alexpilottiihrachyshka: that’s my question as well :-)11:59
alexpilottiihrachyshka: let me look a bit better into this stuff11:59
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ihrachyshkaalexpilotti: I would better backport patches unchanged than modify them unless that's completely needed to pass gate11:59
alexpilottiihrachyshka: +111:59
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ihrachyshkaalexpilotti: there is still no established translation process and procedures, so I don't think that introducing a message that is not collected into gettext files is that big of a deal.12:00
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alexpilottiihrachyshka: same with debug messages?12:01
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alexpilottiihrachyshka: in Juno they are not translated12:01
alexpilottiihrachyshka: while in Icehouse they were12:01
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ihrachyshkadebug messages are not to be marked for translation at all. BUT: if it's how it is in the patch you backport, I would leave that as-is12:02
ihrachyshkain ideal world, you would go with removing translation tags in master and then backporting that in one go with the patch you're interested in12:02
ihrachyshkabut I wouldn't expect anyone to do it :)12:02
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alexpilottiihrachyshka: ok :-)12:05
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zigolifeless: With testtools 0.9.39, I get this, trying to rebuild python-keystoneclient: http://paste.openstack.org/show/112838/12:24
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zigoIt works well with 0.9.35 though.12:24
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zigoAny idea what should/could be done?12:24
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marekddtroyer: o/ Just wanted to ask what assumed design - while running ./stack.sh with devstack, should it install dependencies from requirements-test.txt as well?13:59
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dtroyermarekd: it will if INSTALL_TESTONLY_PACKAGES=True14:02
dtroyerit defaults to False14:02
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marekdallrighty, thanks14:17
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ryansbsuuure you did.14:37
ryansb>.< forgot to change /win14:38
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apevecihrachyshka, you don't have funny nick name here? :)15:10
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ihrachyshkaapevec: nope, silly me15:10
apevecihrachyshka, I'm doing final pass on open stable/havana, anything I should look at first?15:11
ihrachyshkaapevec: so I wanted to ask you how you feel about that freeze exception rules for stable branches. seems like there is little appreciation towards sticking to it. and I actually see why (people struggle to merge anything)15:11
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apevecwell, I can't really prevent people, exception requests are to get attention15:13
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ihrachyshkaapevec: then they are not exception requests, but just requests for attention :)15:13
ihrachyshkaapevec: if we can't enforce the rule, then I wonder whether there is value in it (other than blocking some patches from merging due to some of stable cores sticking to the rule)15:14
ihrachyshkaapevec: freeze would be effective if we would run some additional stability in the meantime, to make sure we ship decent stuff. but we don't, so we ship random patches that passed gate, with no stabilization actions applied15:15
apevecwell, reason for freeze rule is to enable people testing for a week but looks like that's not happening15:15
ihrachyshkaexactly15:16
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apevecihrachyshka, idea was that distros run their CI on stable/*15:16
ihrachyshkaall the testing starts when distros fetch new release and rebase their stuff on top of it15:16
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apevecand that it will be too late for last havana15:17
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ihrachyshkaapevec: that would really make freeze worth it15:17
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jogoSpamapS: thanks for chiming in on the zaqar vs SQS thread15:31
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ihrachyshkaapevec: one more thing before release...15:33
ihrachyshkaapevec: I think we need to mention something in release notes about https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/130418115:34
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1304181 in neutron/icehouse "neutron should validate gateway_ip is in subnet" [Undecided,In progress]15:34
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ihrachyshkaapevec: there was obvious push against backporting it, but at least we should make a note that that's where current agent sucks, so that people know that to be on safe side, they need to switch that option to non-default value.15:35
apevecack, could you provide draft sentence or two?15:36
apevecihrachyshka, and please email it me so I don't forget :)15:37
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ihrachyshkaapevec: ok, in a moment :)15:39
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reedchmouel, does this page still contain valid (or useful) information? https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/SecureClientConnections16:22
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chmouelreed: most libraries already switched to requests (i thnk) so it's outdated in that form but i think it could be useful to keep for history, maybe renaming the tile to MigrationToRequests16:24
chmouelthe title is definitively misleading16:24
chmouelcause it doesn't reflect the current state16:24
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reedchmouel, ok, thanks16:25
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reedchmouel, https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/SecureClientConnections16:35
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SpamapSjogo: No, thank you. I really appreciate having the design of what Zaqar is likely to be compared directly to spelled out.16:51
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jogoSpamapS: I am surprised this didn't come up earlier16:53
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SpamapSjogo: I think we all thought we knew, but we didn't _actually_ know.16:56
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jogoSpamapS: yeah, when reading the amazon doc again, ceph/swift sounds like a good fit for a backend17:09
jogoand a thin layer on top17:09
jogoI wonder if this uses block storage as a backend on the amazon side17:09
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SpamapSjogo: Probably just uses dynamo17:11
SpamapSjogo: the consistency guarantees line up there.17:11
jogoSpamapS: hmm17:12
jogoSpamapS: another concern about zaqar, the API behavior can vary a lot between deployments17:12
jogomaking it hard to switch between clouds17:12
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SpamapSjogo: Basically I think we'd all like to see it start super limited, rather than start super featureful.17:24
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claudiubmikal: hello17:41
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john-davidge_kevinbenton: Hi, do you have a minute to discuss https://review.openstack.org/#/c/112836/ ?17:50
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kevinbentonjohn-davidge_: i’ll remove my vote. i don’t care enough to argue it anymore :-)17:51
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john-davidge_kevinbenton: Thanks! I totally see your point of view, but it was an awkward situation with people on both side of the argument giving -1s17:52
john-davidge_kevinbenton: thanks for that17:52
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kevinbentonjohn-davidge_: my vote doesn’t actually matter so i wouldn’t worry about it17:53
kevinbentonjohn-davidge_: but i took it off so you don’t have to worry about it17:53
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john-davidge_kevinbenton: Thanks, there's still many people that will ignore any patch with a -117:54
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sarob_Notmyname. Ping!18:25
notmynamesarob_: yo18:25
notmynamesarob_: I'm on the call and webex and etherpad18:26
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lifelesszigo: I would say thats an old python-keystoneclient without the fix19:07
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rodrigods_does anyone know how can I keep a feature branch updated with master changes? When I try to do a rebase, gerrit asks to perform one review for each rebased commit =(19:34
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clarkbit does that because sha1s change when you rebase. this means the commits are different. what is the big picture goal here? maybe we can find a better way to accomplish that19:35
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rodrigods_clarkb, we have a feature branch in keystone (feature/hierarchical-multitenancy), we are trying to keep that branch updated, so we won't need to going through a merge heel afterworlds. Another problem, is that right now, the tempest tests are not passing due changes from master19:37
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clarkband that feature branch is in gerrit?19:37
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rodrigods_clarkb, yes19:38
morganfainbergi think i can push the merge commit if that is what is needed19:38
clarkbtypically we expect feature branches to merge master back into them19:38
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clarkbthen when the feature is ready you merge back into gerrit19:38
clarkber into master19:38
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rodrigods_yeah... how can I accomplish that?19:39
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victsou_clarkb, it seems like he want's to merge larger into the branch periodically19:39
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victsou_*wants19:39
victsou_oops, *master19:39
clarkbsomeone with permissions creates a local merge and pushes to gerrit for review19:39
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morganfainbergclarkb, seeing if i can do that for them now.19:40
clarkbcool19:40
rodrigods_morganfainberg, clarkb thanks19:40
victsou_thank you morganfainberg19:40
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morganfainbergclarkb, hm. ok should we be doing a single squash commit?19:47
morganfainbergclarkb, for the merge?19:47
morganfainbergclarkb, or... do i need to force it to be a merge commit?19:47
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clarkbdont squash commits. just checkout feature branch then git merge master (update master first) then git review19:48
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morganfainbergclarkb, since no patches have landed on the feature branch git review wants a review for each patch that has landed19:49
victsou_that's the problem we had been having, morganfainberg clarkb19:49
clarkboh ya so you need something to merge into19:49
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morganfainbergah. so i need like a dummy commit?19:50
morganfainbergor is a forced merge commit sufficient?19:50
clarkbno you just need to have development on the branch19:50
morganfainbergah. hm.19:50
clarkbits possible we may want to move the branch to master if nothing has merged19:50
clarkbmordred ^19:50
morganfainbergclarkb, that i think is the chicken/egg issue atm.19:51
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morganfainbergthe patches are failing because of master changes so no dev can occur :P19:51
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clarkbya so we may want to just fast forward the branch19:52
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morganfainbergclarkb, that would rock if we could do that.19:53
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samuelmzHi, why does 'openstackclient role list' command has the option to list user/group grants on project/domain20:30
samuelmzif we have 'openstack role assignment list' for this ..20:30
samuelmz?20:30
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sigmavirus24samuelmz: you might find more help in #openstack-sdks20:44
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rodrigodsclarkb, morganfainberg, any updates? =D20:46
samuelmzsigmavirus24, ok thanks20:46
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clarkbrodrigods sorry been afk for lunch and grocery run20:55
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rodrigods_clarkb, no problem. just wanted to know if the solution worked =)21:36
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clarkbmordred: so for ^ the idea is keystone's feature/hierarchical-multitenancy branch would be fast forwarded to tip of master. I can do that by deleting the branch and recreating it. Any other gotchas (note I am going to check now that it is a fast forward)21:54
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mordredclarkb: not that I know of21:56
mordredclarkb: that should be fine21:56
clarkbyup it will essentially be a fast forward21:56
clarkbok /me does this now21:56
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clarkbmordred: is there a better way than deleting and recreating?21:56
mordredclarkb: you could fetch and push21:57
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clarkbthat is a force push though right?21:57
mordredclarkb: not if it's fast-forward21:57
clarkbI think I prefer delete and move more21:57
clarkbmordred: how do you make it bypass gerrit review?21:57
mordredjust git pull --ff-only ; git push gerrit HEAD:refs/heads/master21:57
alexpilottimordred: hi21:57
mordredalexpilotti: hey!21:57
clarkbmordred: oh right don't push to refs/for/master21:58
clarkbhrm21:58
alexpilottimordred: we’re moving the development of Cloudbase-Init to stackforce: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/119909/21:58
alexpilottimordred: ahem, forge :-)21:58
* clarkb does the delete and move bceause that seems simpler from the perspective of what acls I have without escalting privs21:58
mordredclarkb: ++21:59
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mordredalexpilotti: cool21:59
clarkbgah it has open changes21:59
clarkbdamnit gerrit21:59
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alexpilottimordred: beside the fact that we miss a +2a (hint, hint :-) ), I was wondering how to handle the upcoming CI21:59
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* clarkb tries it the other way22:00
alexpilottimordred: on the Hyper-V / Windows CI we have core projects with “official” 3rd party CIs accounts for gerrit22:00
alexpilottimordred: would it be possible to have such an account for a stackforge project as well?22:01
alexpilottimordred: as in cloudbase-init-ci or whatever else22:01
mordredalexpilotti: well... you can have a 3rd party CI system in general, and if that system _also_ wants to do things with cloudbase repos, that shoudl not really be a problem22:02
mordredalexpilotti: if it's a standalone CI system only for stackforge, there isn't a problem per-se - but it also might not get particularly prioritized in terms of dealing with it22:02
mordredanteaya: ^^ do you agree with me there?22:02
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alexpilottimordred: prioritized cor creating the account?22:03
mordredalexpilotti: or for maintaining it on our side, etc22:04
mordredalexpilotti: but there is no physical problem with doing it22:04
alexpilottimordred: for the rest the CI would be completely independent and isolated, since it will comment only on this project for it’s specific changes22:04
* anteaya reads backscroll22:04
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alexpilottimordred: w/o dependencies on other projects (except maybe Heat)22:04
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anteayayes mordred I agree with the statement directly above the ^22:05
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anteayaalexpilotti: that is not the issue with ci's22:06
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clarkbmordred: rodrigods_ morganfainberg all done22:06
anteayawhen your ci breaks and devs complain or when things fall over for you and you haave questions22:06
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anteayathose are the high maintenance issues for ci's22:06
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anteayaso no problem queing up for a gerrit ci account22:06
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anteayabut we are really taxed when it comes to helping folks fix their systems22:07
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rodrigods_thank you clarkb !22:07
anteayamy utopic vision was that they would learn and help each other22:07
anteayaand so far that has happened marginally22:07
alexpilottianteaya: got it! was trying to figure out the meaning of “prioritized”22:07
anteayait does not keep up with demand22:07
anteayaalexpilotti: that is my meaning anyway22:07
anteayaif mordred has a different meaning he can jump in22:08
alexpilottianteaya: I asw that with the Hyper-V CI, we try of course to avoid giving you any extra hassle22:08
alexpilottianteaya: but in teh early days we had the occasional runaway zuul commenting everywhere :-)22:08
anteayaI apprciate that22:08
anteayayes so does everyone22:08
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anteayaseems to be part of what operators need to learn22:09
anteayanone will ask anyone else, they all have to do it themselves22:09
alexpilottianteaya: so multiplying the learning curve for all the 3rd party CIs means quite some work for you (highly appreciated BTW)22:09
anteayathanks22:10
anteayayour pat on the back comes at a good time22:10
anteayaand yes, you have assessed the situation accurately22:10
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anteayaso you know what you are getting into22:10
alexpilottianteaya: the good part is that at least for this cloiudbase-init CI we went through the learning curve already so it should be an easy one :-)22:10
anteayayou have already fallen down before22:10
anteayaI have no illusions22:11
alexpilottianteaya: d’oh :-)22:11
anteaya:D22:11
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anteayabut yes, request an account for it on the third-party-requests mailing list, lists.openstack.org22:11
anteayaand we try to get to requests about once per week22:11
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alexpilottianteaya: sounds good tx! do you have a long queue ATM?22:12
anteayawell it is less the length of the queue and more who has time to do it22:12
alexpilottiociuhandu: btw did we get the cinder windows CI account already?22:12
anteayaI can't since I probably won't have permissions until we upgrade gerrit again22:13
anteayasince we need upstream features22:13
anteayaand our normal person is on his honeymoon22:13
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anteayaso I need to line them up and shake a core for 5 minutes of their time22:13
anteayaI have to pick my moment22:13
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alexpilottianteaya: got it. Anyway I’m still waiting for the StackForge config commit to merge22:13
anteayakk22:14
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alexpilottianteaya mordred: so tx for the info! :-)22:14
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