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| ihrachyshka_ | ttx: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/109759/ please remove your -2 | 14:27 |
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| ttx | ihrachyshka_: on it | 14:33 |
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| ttx | ihrachyshka_: removed, you can Workflow+1 it | 14:33 |
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| ihrachyshka_ | ttx, tnx :D | 14:37 |
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| Alexei_987 | lifeless: ping | 20:28 |
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| alexpilotti | mtreinish: hi | 20:31 |
| mtreinish | alexpilotti: hi | 20:32 |
| alexpilotti | mtreinish: I’m getting some work done on tempest on Hyper-V, to be used in the Hyper-V CI | 20:32 |
| alexpilotti | mtreinish: teh majority of the tests has no problems, there are so far two minor issues related to the format of the images | 20:33 |
| alexpilotti | mtreinish: as Hyper-V supports VHD/VHDX and not QCOW2 or AMI | 20:33 |
| mtreinish | yeah I saw the patches go up the other day :) | 20:34 |
| alexpilotti | mtreinish: and a minor issue related to partition naming, fetching links | 20:34 |
| mtreinish | I haven't had a chance to look at them yet though | 20:34 |
| alexpilotti | mtreinish: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/114820/ | 20:34 |
| alexpilotti | mtreinish: this one is very straighworward, like 3 lines | 20:34 |
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| alexpilotti | mtreinish: while this one maybe deserves a bit of discussion: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/114759/ | 20:35 |
| alexpilotti | mtreinish: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/114759/3/tempest/config.py | 20:35 |
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| alexpilotti | mtreinish: in particular this line: cfg.StrOpt('img_file', deprecated_name='qcow2_img_file', | 20:36 |
| alexpilotti | mtreinish: the idea is to support images different than qcow2, while retaining backwards compatibility | 20:36 |
| alexpilotti | mtreinish: other two options ‘img_disk_format’ and ‘img_container_format’ take care of the rest | 20:37 |
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| alexpilotti | mtreinish: do you think it could be ok this way? | 20:37 |
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| mtreinish | alexpilotti: yeah I think that's fine. Especially because that option isn't used anywhere else. But, I thought we had other options somewhere for an image file | 20:38 |
| mtreinish | but that's probably a larger discussion | 20:38 |
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| mtreinish | I actually have concerns on the first patch though | 20:39 |
| alexpilotti | mtreinish: yeah, the image_ref option elsewhere is fine | 20:39 |
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| alexpilotti | mtreinish: really? may I ask why? I though it was a fairly easy one :-) | 20:39 |
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| mtreinish | doing runtime detection via ssh of which path the volume attached to verify isn't something I'm really a fan of | 20:39 |
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| mtreinish | I feel like we should check over the api for the path (if we can) or use a config variable to specify it | 20:40 |
| mtreinish | but I may just be worrying about nothing | 20:40 |
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| alexpilotti | mtreinish: Hyper-V ignores the API, there’s no way to set a custom device number | 20:42 |
| alexpilotti | mtreinish: we’re planning to give more options there in the Nova driver, but ATM they are mounted sequentially | 20:42 |
| alexpilotti | mtreinish: plus, on Windows names like /de/vda don’t have much meaning :-) | 20:42 |
| mtreinish | ok, but what if there was already a device auto-attached by the env? Would it always be sdb? | 20:42 |
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| alexpilotti | mtreinish: in the case of the specific Tempest test yes | 20:43 |
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| alexpilotti | mtreinish: Hyepr-V has also a minor issue on Linux in which SCSI devices require the first LUN to be set before the others | 20:43 |
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| alexpilotti | mtreinish: root is IDE, on /dev/sda, so that falls on sdb | 20:44 |
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| alexpilotti | mtreinish: no matter how the VHD/VHDX that you can specify, as that will be sda1, sda2, sdax | 20:44 |
| cinerama | hey, does anyone know, on the summit registration, is the t-shirt size for gender neutral t-shirts or what? | 20:44 |
| alexpilotti | mtreinish: does it make sense? | 20:45 |
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| alexpilotti | mtreinish: I tried also to use the host API to detect if the host is Hyper-V, but those are blocked by the policy | 20:46 |
| mtreinish | alexpilotti: yeah, but I just feel like we're making an assumption that the behavior will be deterministic because of a bug or another coincidences | 20:46 |
| mtreinish | where we could just have it configurable | 20:46 |
| mtreinish | but it's not a big deal either way | 20:46 |
| mtreinish | because it raises the concern what about hypervisor X that uses some other default path for volume attach | 20:47 |
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| mtreinish | so I'm thinking make it a config variable and then the burden is on the user :) | 20:47 |
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| alexpilotti | mtreinish: makes sense. You’d suggest something like CONF.scenario.volume_partition_name? | 20:49 |
| alexpilotti | which defaults to vda? | 20:49 |
| mtreinish | yeah, or maybe something like attach_volume_dev_path | 20:50 |
| mtreinish | yeah it'll default to whatever was hardcoded into the test | 20:50 |
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| alexpilotti | mtreinish: ok, sending the amended patch in 1 sec | 20:50 |
| alexpilotti | mtreinish: another area where we have issues is Nova resize | 20:51 |
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| alexpilotti | mtreinish: we don’t support resize down, so it’s quite messy in teh tests :-) | 20:51 |
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| mtreinish | alexpilotti: there is a resize flag just skip those tests | 20:52 |
| mtreinish | you lose the coverage of resize up but that shouldn't be the biggest deal | 20:53 |
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| mtreinish | alexpilotti: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/tempest/tree/tempest/config.py#n302 | 20:53 |
| alexpilotti | mtreinish: well it is for us, I mean resize is quite a tricky code are, so it’s very important for us to avoid regressions | 20:53 |
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| mtreinish | so do you want to add a shrink option to the nova-feature-enabled group? | 20:54 |
| alexpilotti | mtreinish: we sorted it out ATM by running the tests as isolated | 20:54 |
| alexpilotti | mtreinish: that’d be great and also negative tests | 20:54 |
| mtreinish | although, how many tests are there that do shrinks? | 20:55 |
| alexpilotti | mtreinish: https://bugs.launchpad.net/tempest/+bug/1358221 | 20:55 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1358221 in tempest "tempest resize tests do not consider hypervisors that don't allow resize down" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 20:55 |
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| alexpilotti | mtreinish: teh big problem is: https://github.com/openstack/tempest/blob/3b598d1cf8ced84f67f113948bd76342881f2f9f/tempest/api/compute/servers/test_server_actions.py#L191-L197 | 20:55 |
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| alexpilotti | mtreinish: the test basically says: resize to the “other” flavor, which is based on the outcome of the previous test | 20:56 |
| alexpilotti | mtreinish: in the same test case, of course | 20:56 |
| mtreinish | alexpilotti: it might be worth adding something to the hypervisor support matrix wiki about shrink | 20:56 |
| alexpilotti | mtreinish: nore than that, it’s a total mess now | 20:56 |
| mtreinish | yeah that makes sense, you could only do that once... | 20:57 |
| alexpilotti | mtreinish: libvirt does an awful thing: it simply does not resize down the disk | 20:57 |
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| alexpilotti | mtreinish: xenserver at a first glance tries to resize down (which can succeed if the resize matches w teh highwater mark of the disk) and fails otherwise | 20:57 |
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| alexpilotti | mtreinish: didn’t check vmware yet | 20:58 |
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| alexpilotti | mtreinish: so IMO before getting to the feature matrix, we should talk about what we expect :-) | 20:58 |
| mtreinish | heh, fair enough | 20:59 |
| alexpilotti | mtreinish: resize down is in general impossible to achieve w/o involving the guest os | 20:59 |
| alexpilotti | mtreinish: so teh only possible situation is if the user resized the guest os before invoking nova resize | 21:00 |
| mtreinish | so do you think it would be better than to fix the test cases to avoid a shrink to a smaller flavor | 21:00 |
| mtreinish | or just add a feature flag? | 21:00 |
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| alexpilotti | mtreinish: IMO we should distinguish the tests (resize_up, resize_down) and add a flag for the second one | 21:00 |
| alexpilotti | mtreinish: and IMO surely remove the logic in https://github.com/openstack/tempest/blob/3b598d1cf8ced84f67f113948bd76342881f2f9f/tempest/api/compute/servers/test_server_actions.py#L191-L197 | 21:01 |
| alexpilotti | mtreinish: as this is totally aleatory | 21:01 |
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| mtreinish | yeah that's a really bad test | 21:02 |
| alexpilotti | mtreinish: in the meantime I’ll also rise the concern on the Nova side, maybe we can get to a reasonable behaviour :-) | 21:02 |
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| alexpilotti | mtreinish: ok tx, I just wanted to have an initial discussion with you for now | 21:03 |
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| alexpilotti | mtreinish: as I said we worked around it by isolating the tests | 21:03 |
| mtreinish | sure, np | 21:03 |
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| alexpilotti | mtreinish: as in, each tests calls setUpClass on each own, so they all resize image_ref -> image_ref_alt | 21:03 |
| alexpilotti | mtreinish: and, most important, they pass :-) | 21:04 |
| mtreinish | yeah, it'll be good to fix that and make it more explicit :) | 21:04 |
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| alexpilotti | mtreinish: I’m preparing to get through the live migration tests now | 21:04 |
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| mtreinish | oh, those have never been run in the gate | 21:04 |
| alexpilotti | mtreinish: hopefully it’s going to get down more easy :-) | 21:04 |
| mtreinish | so I have no idea if they work or not | 21:05 |
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| alexpilotti | mtreinish: I read your last assertion as in: don’t even expect them to work :-D | 21:05 |
| alexpilotti | mtreinish: lol | 21:05 |
| mtreinish | I don't think they do | 21:05 |
| mtreinish | :) | 21:05 |
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| alexpilotti | mtreinish: ok, will have some fun then :-) | 21:05 |
| alexpilotti | mtreinish: resize and live migration are two of the most tricky areas for us | 21:05 |
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| alexpilotti | mtreinish: as contributors usually don’t care about testing their code for those scenarios | 21:06 |
| alexpilotti | mtreinish: which makes sense, as it’s not that trivial to set it up for a dev | 21:06 |
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| alexpilotti | mtreinish: and if the gate does not catch issues, well, our users do :-) | 21:07 |
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| mtreinish | yeah, it's definitely tricky to setup a ci for live migration, needing multi-node | 21:08 |
| mtreinish | although there's been working on getting that running in the gate | 21:08 |
| alexpilotti | mtreinish: for Hyper-V we did it from day one | 21:09 |
| alexpilotti | mtreinish: each run uses 1 devstack and 2 Hyper-V compute nodes | 21:09 |
| alexpilotti | mtreinish: but we never exploited it fully due to the above issues | 21:09 |
| alexpilotti | mtreinish: ah, one last request for a flag :-) | 21:10 |
| alexpilotti | mtreinish: Hyper-V does not support hot-plugging nics | 21:10 |
| alexpilotti | mtreinish: so we just skip these 3 tests: | 21:10 |
| alexpilotti | tempest.api.compute.servers.test_attach_interfaces.AttachInterfacesTestJSON.test_create_list_show_delete_interfaces | 21:10 |
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| alexpilotti | tempest.api.compute.servers.test_attach_interfaces.AttachInterfacesTestXML.test_create_list_show_delete_interfaces | 21:10 |
| alexpilotti | tempest.scenario.test_network_basic_ops.TestNetworkBasicOps.test_hotplug_nic | 21:10 |
| alexpilotti | mtreinish: it’d be great to have a simple flag for that | 21:11 |
| alexpilotti | mtreinish: and just skip them w/o an exclusion list | 21:11 |
| mtreinish | heh, yeah that seems fair | 21:11 |
| mtreinish | alexpilotti: in one conversation we've added 4 new config flags to tempest | 21:12 |
| mtreinish | I'm afraid of this trend :) | 21:12 |
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| alexpilotti | mtreinish: well, you started :-) | 21:16 |
| alexpilotti | mtreinish: I was thinking: “wow is it that easy here”? | 21:17 |
| alexpilotti | mtreinish: I usually have to ffight weeks in Nova for a single flag :-D | 21:17 |
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| alexpilotti | mtreinish: (just kidding) | 21:17 |
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| mtreinish | eventually we'll lock down the config file we're going to need to | 21:17 |
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| mtreinish | but right now we're still in the growth phase around branchless tempest | 21:18 |
| mtreinish | so we're not super strict as long as there is a good reason | 21:18 |
| alexpilotti | mtreinish: there are also quite some redundant options | 21:18 |
| mtreinish | yeah we need to clean that up | 21:18 |
| alexpilotti | mtreinish: did you think about consolidating them? | 21:18 |
| alexpilotti | mtreinish: cool | 21:18 |
| mtreinish | once someone does that we'll probably get strict about accepting new one | 21:18 |
| mtreinish | s | 21:18 |
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| alexpilotti | mtreinish: ok, I’ll preallocate 50-60 random options now as long as there’s time :-) | 21:21 |
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| alexpilotti | mtreinish: well, tx for your time! | 21:22 |
| mtreinish | sure, np | 21:22 |
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| lifeless | Alexei_987: pong | 22:10 |
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| Alexei_987 | lifeless: Hi I uploaded a small pull request in testr | 22:13 |
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| Alexei_987 | lifeless: so would like to know your opinion if you have time | 22:13 |
| lifeless | Alexei_987: url ? | 22:14 |
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| Alexei_987 | lifeless: https://github.com/testing-cabal/testrepository/pull/3 | 22:14 |
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| lifeless | Alexei_987: reviewed | 22:27 |
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| Alexei_987 | lifeless: so what's the overall feeling? | 22:28 |
| Alexei_987 | lifeless: I'm a bit worried cause test results from different profiles will be stored in same repo | 22:28 |
| Alexei_987 | lifeless: IMHO it's not correct | 22:28 |
| lifeless | Alexei_987: its a good start; theres some detail that needs fixing, and we'll have to do some patches after this | 22:28 |
| lifeless | Alexei_987: repos are meant to be big buckets | 22:28 |
| lifeless | Alexei_987: IMO its fine | 22:28 |
| lifeless | Alexei_987: what we want is to be able to report separately | 22:29 |
| lifeless | Alexei_987: (sometimes) and sometimes we want to report in union | 22:29 |
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| lifeless | Alexei_987: consider e.g. running python2.6/2.7/3.2/3.3 as profiles - we want separate results for each, and we want to be able to repo that when test X fails in 3.3, it passed in 3.2, 2.6 and 2.7. | 22:30 |
| lifeless | Alexei_987: alternatively, consider running tempest slow and fast tests as profiles | 22:30 |
| Alexei_987 | lifeless: ok ok :) | 22:30 |
| lifeless | the same test should never be in both, and we don't want to cross-reference things | 22:30 |
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| Alexei_987 | lifeless: why same test should never be in both? | 22:31 |
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| Alexei_987 | lifeless: I think that inheritance of the profiles might be a bad thing | 22:31 |
| lifeless | Alexei_987: how so? | 22:31 |
| Alexei_987 | lifeless: It adds additional pain for us and almost no benefit to end users | 22:31 |
| Alexei_987 | lifeless: testr.conf is only written once so I don't think it's hard to duplicate some keys | 22:32 |
| Alexei_987 | lifeless: and having them explicit is good | 22:32 |
| lifeless | Alexei_987: what about user local profiles | 22:32 |
| lifeless | Alexei_987: and DRY | 22:32 |
| Alexei_987 | lifeless: do we use local profiles now? | 22:32 |
| lifeless | Alexei_987: well we don't have profiles | 22:33 |
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| Alexei_987 | lifeless: :) | 22:33 |
| lifeless | Alexei_987: but its one of the things folk have expressed a desire for | 22:33 |
| lifeless | Alexei_987: to be able to tweak .testr.conf without editing .testr.conf | 22:33 |
| Alexei_987 | lifeless: thing I most desire is a normal error message in case of import errors :) | 22:33 |
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| lifeless | Alexei_987: indeed, I want to do a release, waiting on pbr :( | 22:34 |
| Alexei_987 | lifeless: I propose to postpone inheritance for next patches :) | 22:34 |
| lifeless | Alexei_987: I'm nagging daily for reviews of my work there | 22:34 |
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| Alexei_987 | lifeless: in such case I will read this option from ui and not repo | 22:35 |
| Alexei_987 | lifeless: and with minor fixes in error handling we can cosider this patch good to land | 22:35 |
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| Alexei_987 | consider* | 22:36 |
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| lifeless | Alexei_987: I think inheritance will happen automatically | 22:36 |
| lifeless | Alexei_987: I'm just asking that there be an explicit test for it | 22:36 |
| Alexei_987 | lifeless: I want to land something ASAP cause I want to use this for functional tests :) | 22:36 |
| lifeless | | get(self, section, option, raw=False, vars=None) | 22:36 |
| lifeless | | Get an option value for a given section. | 22:36 |
| lifeless | | | 22:36 |
| lifeless | | If `vars' is provided, it must be a dictionary. The option is looked up | 22:36 |
| lifeless | | in `vars' (if provided), `section', and in `defaults' in that order. | 22:37 |
| Alexei_987 | lifeless: so I'm interesting in minimal working stuff | 22:37 |
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| lifeless | Alexei_987: thats fair enough, and I'm supporting that by happily deferring the repo storage stuff etc | 22:37 |
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