Thursday, 2014-07-03

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daya_khello! anyone there who works on 3rd party CI ?00:13
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kypeHi guys, the patches set for juno-2 release, are they merged into the public GIT on 24 July?01:03
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anteayazzzeek: reading the ml post and the wikipage, very nice01:43
zzzeekthanks01:43
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anteayathere was a conflict with you session at teh summit so I never got to meet you there01:45
anteayahopefully I'll get to meet you in paris01:45
clarkbkype: kype the branches should exist at that point yes01:45
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anteayaif daya_k returns: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/ThirdParty01:46
anteayadaya_k we have meetings every week, do attend01:46
anteayazzzeek: I'm reading the eventlet section01:50
anteayazzzeek: where is eventlet with python3 compatibility?01:50
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zzzeekanteaya: shrugs01:52
zzzeekanteaya: again, openstack, huge numebr of programmers all being paid.  Py3’s C API isn’t that different, lets do it01:52
zzzeekits different enough to be very annoying, but this is all doable01:53
clarkbwe should just go back to twisted. wait that won't help >_>01:53
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zzzeekIve never seen so many OSS devs being paid as with openstack; big efforts like these shoudl be funded01:53
dstufftasyncio!01:53
zzzeekwhatevs as long as its implicit :)01:54
anteayamy understanding was that eventlet was an openstack pain point due to lack of python3 compatibility01:54
dstufft(also zzzeek is awesome and I love SQLAlchemy and I'm so happy that you're doing openstack now)01:54
clarkbdstufft: long live trolius?01:54
dstufftclarkb: I was doing some trollius earlier01:54
zzzeekanteaya: i always thought gevent was the more developed platform, dont understand the eventlet / gevent thing ( i dont know if one builds off the other or waht)01:54
dstufftit's not horrible, it's not as nice as asyncio but what can you do without a yield from01:54
anteayaneither do I, just feeling like your wiki section was leaning toward use of eventlet01:55
dstufftzzzeek: eventlet came first, gevent came second and was an eventlet guy who said eventlet sucked and he wanted to use libevent and some other stuff01:55
dstufftgevent doesn't work on PyPy IIRC, so eventlet is nice there01:55
anteayaand I have gotten the sense some devs are leaning away from eventlet01:55
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dstufft(PyPy Aka Server Python)01:55
zzzeeki think alex gaynor isnt being worked hard enough on all these deep interpreter level / concurrency things.  lets crack the whip!01:56
anteayazzzeek: moar Alex_Gaynor01:56
anteayaI can get behind that01:56
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clarkbapparently he is contributing to rust now01:56
zzzeek!01:56
zzzeektraitor!01:56
clarkbclearly we need to make him focus on python more01:56
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anteayaagreed01:58
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kypeclarkb: Thanks02:13
kypeAnd if a patch status is up for review, and i implement it into my current devStack environment. It should generally work right?02:14
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clarkbthat depends. patches that are up for review could be completely broken02:15
kypeAwww...all right thanks02:16
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morganfainbergannegentle, ping need to chat with you about adding the keystonemiddleware (and the best way of doing so) package to the docs/docsite/anything else needed (since we're about to do the release of it) - this will replace the middleware in keystoneclient03:36
morganfainbergannegentle, i'll follow up and see if i can chase you down tomorrow for this :)03:37
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StevenKmorganfainberg: It's a seperate project, right?03:47
morganfainbergStevenK, aye03:47
morganfainbergStevenK, we split the middleware out from keystoneclient.03:47
StevenKmorganfainberg: You need a -docs job in config and a setting or two03:47
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morganfainbergStevenK, so, just a setting or two :)03:47
morganfainbergStevenK, we already build docs03:48
StevenKmorganfainberg: Hold on, I'm looking stuff up for you03:48
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morganfainbergStevenK, awesome tyvm!03:48
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StevenKmorganfainberg: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/96335/03:49
morganfainbergah i think i just need the publsher site03:49
* morganfainberg checks03:49
StevenKmorganfainberg: That's for os-cloud-config, and it assumes that python setup.py build_sphinx DTRT03:49
StevenKmorganfainberg: But that was all I needed to go from docs in tree to published on docs.openstack.org/developer03:50
morganfainbergStevenK, this is the result of our last doc build for keystonemiddleware03:50
morganfainberghttp://docs-draft.openstack.org/08/104208/3/check/gate-keystonemiddleware-docs/aef2026/doc/build/html/03:50
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morganfainbergawesome. yah just the publishing site is what i need i think03:50
StevenKmorganfainberg: "Hosted on GitHub" makes me sad, because it's also not true03:50
morganfainbergyeah, we need to fix it. but i think that was cribbed from keystoneclient03:51
StevenKWhich also isn't hosted on Github? :-P03:51
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StevenKmorganfainberg: I look forward to a config branch from you fixing middleware docs publishing. :-)03:52
morganfainbergStevenK, hah03:52
morganfainberghttps://github.com/openstack-infra/config/blob/master/modules/openstack_project/files/jenkins_job_builder/config/projects.yaml#L76503:52
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morganfainbergStevenK, somehow i think i already fixed it when i created the original jobs :P03:53
morganfainbergwe haven't done a release yet (should be tonight/tomorrow)03:53
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StevenKmorganfainberg: Ah ha03:53
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StevenKmorganfainberg: I don't see a -docs job in modules/openstack_project/files/zuul/layout.yaml03:54
StevenKFor middleware03:54
morganfainbergStevenK, keystonemiddleware,03:55
morganfainbergooh03:55
morganfainbergnot in post03:55
StevenKYou have no post at all03:55
StevenKpost is run after release, you could potientally do it in gate03:56
morganfainbergStevenK, right.03:56
morganfainbergStevenK, this is also runtime stuff. all the services actually use auth_token middleware from the paste-pipeline, not sure if that is a developer thing03:57
morganfainbergStevenK, exclusively03:57
StevenKThe       - name: openstack-client-publish-jobs03:57
StevenKBleh03:57
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StevenKThat didn't paste properly03:57
morganfainbergright03:57
StevenKmorganfainberg: That ^ template might do some of it, I'm still looking03:57
morganfainbergStevenK, ok.03:58
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morganfainbergStevenK, thanks :)03:58
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morganfainbergStevenK, going to get food04:02
morganfainbergStevenK, i'll see anything you post here, and can follow up tomorrow04:03
StevenKmorganfainberg: So, I think you should do a release04:03
morganfainbergStevenK, see what happens? :)04:03
StevenKmorganfainberg: Everything I can see in config right now should get you docs on docs.o.o with a post job04:03
morganfainbergcool04:03
morganfainbergwe'll see then04:03
morganfainbergdolphm, cc ^04:04
morganfainbergand on that note. food is calling me04:04
morganfainbergdinner time :)04:04
morganfainbergor... snack time.04:04
morganfainbergsomething04:04
StevenKmorganfainberg: Enjoy04:04
dolphmStevenK: thanks for looking into it! i was planning to do a release about 12 hours from now04:05
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StevenKdolphm: You're very welcome04:06
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daya_ksdague: have somequeries on ci system05:10
clarkbdaya_k: usually best to just ask05:12
clarkb(sdague won't be awake for many hours)05:12
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daya_kok, thanks, i didnt see you earlier. i am trying to figure out how to make my changes stick,05:13
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clarkbdaya_k: what do you mean by making changes stick?05:13
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daya_ki want to change some files in tempest, (requirements.txt and test-requirements.txt) to make tempest work05:13
daya_kbut the ci system always wipes out everything in the git, it resets to the master as part of the script05:14
daya_kam new to the ci system, and wanted to check what is the usual method for customizing the stack itself if needed in my setup05:14
clarkbdaya_k: so devstack does that. If you point devstack at a particular branch it will clone and check that out instead05:15
clarkbdaya_k: or you can do all of the checking out yourself and tell devstack to not do any of it05:15
daya_kit also resets devstack-gate in the workspace, and picks up git_checkout from there,05:15
clarkbhowever changes to requirements.txt should probably be proposed upstream rather than doing one off changes in a third party system05:16
daya_kbut it wil lbeat the purpose, because i need it to be plugged into the zuul pipeline and fire off these tests whenever changes are triggered by gerrit05:16
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clarkbright so you should let zuul and devstack gate sort it out for you thne05:16
clarkbthe reason devstack-gate exists is to handle this stuff using the information from zuul05:16
daya_khow about changes in devstack-gate itself, i need it to enable neutron for example, so the only knob i have is to create a new project in the yaml files, and invoke any custom scripts05:18
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clarkbdaya_k: devstack-gate has a test-matrix variable so that you can feed ti arbitrary yaml files now05:18
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daya_kok, i'll check that out. thanks.05:19
daya_kat a high level, thats probably the only things the 3rd party system can play with i guess.05:19
clarkbdaya_k: is there some reason you wouldn't use the existing matrix?05:20
daya_ki need to enable neutron, enable my neutron plugin, and test it against my controller, the plugin needs some setup scripts before it works with neutron currently05:21
clarkbthere is a neutron enabled matrix entry already05:23
clarkbI think you can use that with a devstack flag to enable your plugin05:23
daya_kclarkb: so, neutron is not part of devstack by default i think? i need to check,but this is what some of the tempest errors i got were pointing at05:23
clarkbcorrect it isn't. but devstack gate already knows how to enable neutron05:24
clarkbexport DEVSTACK_GATE_NEUTRON=1 before running devstack gate05:24
clarkbthen you just need to get devstack to configure your plugin for neutron05:24
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daya_kclarkb: ok. thanks, i'll do that. i'll check out the neutron matrix, and setup devstack gate. for the changes in the stack itself, i should just point it to a diff branch then? ( my local) until a fix is available? i see a bug in launchpad for this, but it is not aproved yet05:25
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clarkbyes I think you can just point it to the branches you need05:26
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daya_kclarkb: ok, will check that out.  thanks!05:27
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jichenbauzas: hi, got a minute for a quick talk on https://review.openstack.org/93261?09:30
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bauzasjichen: hi09:40
bauzasjichen: I just replied to your question by saying I don't have a clear rule :)09:40
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jichenbauzas: yes, my question is you mentioned :09:40
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jichenbauzas: I saw you opened a thread for that, it's worth a try to update it by giving a status, nope ?09:40
bauzasjichen: maybe asking a spec is too much09:40
jichenbauzas: I didn't have a spec to it until now09:40
bauzasjichen: you asked the ML about what to do09:41
jichenbauzas: ahh... right ,right :)09:41
jichenbauzas: I did that , I thought you are talking about a spec ... sorry09:41
bauzasjichen: by looking at the ML thread I haven't seen a consenus09:41
bauzasjichen: so at least it would be cool to send a status and maybe ask if a spec is cool or not09:41
bauzasjichen: IMHO, that's not requiring a spec, but if so, you loose visibility from operators09:42
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bauzasjichen: and IIRC, people were discussing with you from an operating perspective09:42
jichenbauzas: ok, got it ,so it's better to consider a spec :)09:43
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bauzasjichen: well, I dunno :)09:43
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jichenbauzas: ok, thanks ~09:43
bauzasjichen: I just want to make sure that PaulMurray and others noticed your change :)09:43
jichenbauzas: guess not09:44
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jichenbauzas: let me see whether I can post mail on the same thread09:45
jichenbauzas: and see whether they have some suggestions09:45
bauzasok09:46
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Sondihello did anybody knowing a channel for problems with devstack?13:04
boris-42Sondi probblay openstack-qa13:07
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Sondican someone explain me the difference in devstack between the PUBLIC_INTERFACE and FLAT_INTERFACE?13:38
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mandirahi everyone13:46
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sigmavirus24hi mandira13:51
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mandira<sigmavirus24 >  I am getting an error while running stack.sh   "worlddump.py: error: argument -d/--dir: expected one argument"??13:52
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Sondican someone explain me the difference in devstack between the PUBLIC_INTERFACE and FLAT_INTERFACE?14:48
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notmynamettx: so it seems that the tooling is slowing us down for the backports. we're waiting on somthing in -infra now to allow patches to be landed on a propose/* branch15:32
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ttxnotmyname: I work tomorrow, once the tooling is unblocked, I can reapprove them and even tag and announce rc215:33
ttxnotmyname: if you confirm that those 3 are the three you want in before that tag15:34
ttxnotmyname: i'll also pop on IRC later today just in case everything is solved by then15:35
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notmynamettx: I'll send you an email by EOD today either way. if we've landed the stuff, then I'll let you know for tagging purposes.15:35
notmynameok, great15:35
notmynamewe're still ok with a monday am final release for this. just with those 3 patches15:35
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sigmavirus24sdague: do you have a second?16:19
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daya_kjaypipes: ping17:09
jaypipesdaya_k: pong17:09
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daya_khey, is there a way to cut down the time it takes to do the gate tests? my systems is spending a lot of time in upload_image for every run pulling in tarballs17:10
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clarkbdaya_k: we build images for slaves once a day that cache all of the git repos and images17:10
daya_kis there a way i can store it somewhere locally, and have it just pick it from there for glance17:11
jaypipesdaya_k: what clarkb said... checkout the nodepool script that caches stuff. one sec, grabbing link for you.17:11
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jaypipesdaya_k: https://github.com/openstack-infra/config/blob/master/modules/openstack_project/files/nodepool/scripts/cache_devstack.py17:11
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jaypipesdaya_k: should give you some ideas, at least.17:12
daya_kok, thanks. how are these images used in glance, do they change that frequently?17:12
jaypipesdaya_k: no, they don't change frequently at all...17:12
jaypipesdaya_k: they are used by tempest when launching new instances of various types.17:12
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daya_kok, i'll take a look, my ci script takes a good couple of hours to run, (and fails in tempest at the end of it) right now :(17:13
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jaypipesdaya_k: yes, it's the vmdk image that prolly takes forever to download and upload to glance, IIRC.17:13
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daya_kok, thanks both!17:14
jaypipesany time, daya_k :)17:14
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LiveOnehi !17:29
LiveOnenice to be here17:30
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sigmavirus24SergeyLukjanov: When you get a chance could take another look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/103892/? Thanks!19:46
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