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| usergroup | I have six servers, I want to learn and install openstack. What tutoiral can I use to install a multi-node lab enviornement that i can turn production if needed? | 03:08 |
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| schofield | usergroup: http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/install-guide/install/apt/content/ | 03:09 |
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| usergroup | schofield: this will detail upto 6 nodes? | 03:10 |
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| schofield | This will move you in the right direction. I'm still working through that document myself, so this isn't an expert opinion -- but that's the best place to point you to that I know of. | 03:10 |
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| schofield | It starts you out with three nodes -- only one of which is used to host VMs -- but you could add more nodes hosting VMs fairly easily. | 03:11 |
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| usergroup | schofield: Thank you. With 6 nodes, all Dell R210s, should I do two computes and the rest for proxy, etc, etc? | 03:13 |
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| fifieldt | mikal, for your amusement: http://webnumbr.com/openstack-bugs-tagged-ops | 06:24 |
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| SpamapS | Anybody here know something about running a newer nova-compute with an older nova-conductor? | 06:34 |
| SpamapS | sane? insane? unknown? | 06:34 |
| SpamapS | I'm getting errors about unsupported object versions | 06:34 |
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| sgran | SpamapS: always make the compute hosts the oldest version in your environment, if you're going to mismatch | 07:09 |
| sgran | it's not a good idea to have newer compute hosts - they do mq rpc and explode when the other side doesn't know about methods and so on | 07:09 |
| ajayaa | "lvmisciDriver- 2.0.0 driver is uninitialized" in cinder. any idea? | 07:10 |
| SpamapS | sgran: thanks for confirming. Deploying a newer controller did the trick. :) | 07:12 |
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| mikal | fifieldt: they listen! | 07:41 |
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| fifieldt | haha, yeah :) | 07:41 |
| mikal | fifieldt: oh wait, scale | 07:41 |
| mikal | fifieldt: one person listened! Once! | 07:41 |
| fifieldt | :D | 07:42 |
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| fifieldt | but yeah, will be pushing this and tracking it | 07:44 |
| fifieldt | hopefully we can make a difference :) | 07:44 |
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| srenatus | Hmm has anyone noticed that before? I've got 16 servers and horizon's network topology shows 13 only. I checked the JSON that is provided to the client-side javascript svg rendering stuff, all the machines are in the JSON... | 09:20 |
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| afaranha | Hello, does anyone got this error using keystoneclient in python? http://paste.openstack.org/show/81145/ | 12:36 |
| afaranha | the error is NotFound: The resource could not be found. (HTTP 404) | 12:37 |
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| bknudson | jecarey: got a min to look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/94871/1/keystone/exception.py ? | 14:06 |
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| bknudson | trying to make sure we're doing the right thing to append a translated messaged to a translated message | 14:07 |
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| deklan | devstack is sick on hlinux. that's sick in the bad sense. | 14:27 |
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| deklan | could not get it to fully function on hlinux. hope to spare someone else any pain. | 14:28 |
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| jecarey | bknudson, I don't see where you're doing an append. amendment looks unused. | 15:15 |
| bknudson | jecarey: it's here now: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/94871/3/keystone/exception.py | 15:16 |
| shardy | stable-maint question, if we need an oslo change backported to our stable/icehouse branch, we have to get it into stable/icehouse oslo first right? | 15:17 |
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| jecarey | bknudson, that looks right. Using the translated string to concatenate will allow lazy translation to lazily translate the parameters (the original message) as well. | 15:19 |
| bknudson | jecarey: great, thanks... was wondering if + worked but I didn't think that worked, so suggested this approach | 15:20 |
| jecarey | bknudson, + will fail when lazy translation is enabled. | 15:20 |
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| mgagne | roaet: ping | 17:23 |
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| roaet | hi | 17:23 |
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| roaet | mgagne: pong | 17:23 |
| mgagne | roaet: I have a question regarding wafflehaus | 17:23 |
| * roaet perks up! | 17:24 | |
| mgagne | roaet: :P | 17:24 |
| roaet | Go ooooon. :D | 17:24 |
| mgagne | roaet: there are sub packages for nova and neutron. | 17:24 |
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| mgagne | roaet: I however do not see wafflehaus itself as a dependency in requirements.txt | 17:24 |
| roaet | they are using namespaces like oslo | 17:24 |
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| roaet | it's in the test-requirements.txt | 17:24 |
| mgagne | roaet: test-requirements.txt is for test right? | 17:24 |
| mgagne | roaet: what about install? | 17:25 |
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| roaet | yes, in the projects that we're using wafflehaus in we put wafflehaus and wafflehaus.neutron | 17:25 |
| mgagne | roaet: so the user has to "know" that wafflehaus.neutron requires wafflehaus to work? =) | 17:25 |
| roaet | I'm trying to figure out what would be the best solution for this though. Any recommendations? I am having problems with my deployment though. | 17:26 |
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| roaet | My deployment team was having problems with it, which is why it was like this. | 17:26 |
| mgagne | roaet: can't adding wafflehaus to requirements.txt do the job? what are the challenges in that approach? | 17:26 |
| roaet | We're working around it currently but I want to fix it. | 17:26 |
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| roaet | our particular deployment is silly and for some reason doesn't support that. | 17:27 |
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| roaet | but we can change that | 17:27 |
| roaet | mgagne: no one else was using it so it didn't appear to bother anyone, but now that there are others, we'll need to be more considerate. Thank you for the input. | 17:27 |
| mgagne | roaet: is your version of wafflehaus (in prod/dev) hosted on pypi or are you deploying from a private git repo? | 17:28 |
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| roaet | we're cloning from master | 17:28 |
| roaet | on public | 17:28 |
| mgagne | roaet: I don't mind the quirks as long as I know and understand them =) | 17:28 |
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| roaet | mgagne: I should definitely document that. | 17:28 |
| mgagne | roaet: thanks for your help! | 17:29 |
| roaet | mgagne: and thank you for the input. I'll document it right away | 17:29 |
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| ayoung | SergeyLukjanov, are you cool with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/84740/ ? We have a long line of work to do that is all backed up by not being able to do Kerberos | 17:56 |
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| annegentle_ | mikal: g'morning! Q for ya when you have a moment | 21:01 |
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| mikal | annegentle_: sure, just about to start the nova meeting though... Perhaps after? | 21:01 |
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| annegentle_ | mikal: ah sure | 21:02 |
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| kevinbenton | Hi, a recent change merged into devstack that is causing problems on our CI system | 21:17 |
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| kevinbenton | This is the commit | 21:17 |
| kevinbenton | https://github.com/openstack-dev/devstack/commit/2109d74db5df2c8858ca51f48f1bffbc9df89041 | 21:17 |
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| kevinbenton | and it’s causing this failure | 21:18 |
| kevinbenton | openstack endpoint show: error: argument -f/--format: invalid choice: 'value' (choose from 'shell', 'table') | 21:18 |
| kevinbenton | is the issue that a library is out of date on our system? | 21:18 |
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| kevinbenton | sdague: ping | 21:25 |
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| sdague | pong? | 21:25 |
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| kevinbenton | i’m having trouble with a recent change to devstack and i’m not sure if it’s our CI | 21:26 |
| kevinbenton | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/94689/ | 21:26 |
| kevinbenton | it’s causing this error now and failing stack.sh | 21:26 |
| kevinbenton | “openstack endpoint show: error: argument -f/--format: invalid choice: 'value' (choose from 'shell', 'table')" | 21:26 |
| kevinbenton | sdague: ^^ | 21:27 |
| kevinbenton | sdague: is it because of a library being out of date on our end? | 21:27 |
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| sdague | I don't know, it pass through the gate tests, so I'd look at the logs to see if there are substantial library differences | 21:28 |
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| sdague | we do a pip freeze at the end which is recorded | 21:28 |
| kevinbenton | sdague: because i wiped out the python-openstackclient directory and retried | 21:28 |
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| kevinbenton | sdague: ok, just wanted to see if you knew anything obviously causing the problem | 21:29 |
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| sdague | nothing jumps out at me, however I'm not deep enough in openstackclient to know if there is something subtle there | 21:29 |
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| kevinbenton | dtroyer: ping | 21:40 |
| dtroyer | kevinbenton: yo | 21:41 |
| kevinbenton | dtroyer: are you familiar with how openstackclient gets its format options? | 21:42 |
| kevinbenton | dtroyer: a recent merge to devstack is breaking because ‘value’ isn’t a valid format option on my system | 21:42 |
| kevinbenton | dtroyer: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/94689/ | 21:42 |
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| kevinbenton | openstack endpoint show: error: argument -f/--format: invalid choice: 'value' (choose from 'shell', 'table') | 21:43 |
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| dtroyer | what cliff version do you have? | 21:43 |
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| kevinbenton | dtroyer: when i run pip freeze this is the only thing that shows up for cliff | 21:44 |
| kevinbenton | -e git+http://git.openstack.org/openstack/cliff.git@4bdf5fc90ee3e84ac675f5f26f7a0d94aacf91c5#egg=cliff-master | 21:44 |
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| kevinbenton | dtroyer: if i look directly in /opt/stack/cliff it’s in sync with master | 21:50 |
| dtroyer | hmmm…that's the exact same SHA I have on my dev machine | 21:51 |
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| kevinbenton | dtroyer: oh, i wonder if it’s using an old built version of it | 21:52 |
| kevinbenton | dtroyer: i have RECLONE set to True | 21:52 |
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| kevinbenton | dtroyer: but maybe there is a problem somewhere in there | 21:53 |
| kevinbenton | dtroyer: i just wiped out the cliff directory and i’m re-running decstack to see if that fixes it | 21:53 |
| dtroyer | that should do it… | 21:54 |
| kevinbenton | dtroyer: that kinda sucks. that means out CI image can’t have libraries pre-cloned i guess | 21:55 |
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| dtroyer | oh, you wiped /opt/stack/cliff? I read that as getting rid of a cliff install in /usr/lib/* | 21:59 |
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| kevinbenton | dtroyer: did both. I started with the /usr/lib/* one but i ran openstackclient after that and it still complained about the format | 22:02 |
| kevinbenton | dtroyer: so i then wiped /opt/stack/cliff | 22:02 |
| kevinbenton | dtroyer: and ran openstackclient | 22:02 |
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| kevinbenton | dtroyer: and then it complained about not being able to import | 22:02 |
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| kevinbenton | dtroyer: so it seemed to be referencing it directly from there | 22:02 |
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| dtroyer | devstack does 'setup.py develop' so that's the second error after removing the dir | 22:03 |
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| kevinbenton | dtroyer: i’m not familiar with how that works. does it add those /opt/stack/* folders to the python path directly? | 22:04 |
| dtroyer | but if you had a pip-installed copy and it's ahead in the path, that explains the original problem | 22:04 |
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| kevinbenton | dtroyer: well it wasn’t working with the ‘value’ format even when i wiped out the /usr/lib version though | 22:05 |
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| kevinbenton | dtroyer: hang on, trying another image just wiping out /opt/stack/cliff | 22:07 |
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| jamielennox | dtroyer: how do i get around this failure: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/94771/4 | 22:12 |
| jamielennox | was supposed to be a quick fix | 22:12 |
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| dtroyer | there needs to be a matching change in OSC as it calls self._load_commands() in add_command_group() | 22:14 |
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| jamielennox | dtroyer: yea, i have something on that end - but is it going to be an ongoing issue of mismatching versions? | 22:15 |
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| dtroyer | maybe just add a public wraooer in CommandManager | 22:15 |
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| jamielennox | osc: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/95019/ | 22:15 |
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| dtroyer | the bits in OSC were meant to be pushed back into cliff if they proved to be useful which is why I overrode the private method…that's the right long-term thing | 22:16 |
| jamielennox | what if i just push the command group list into cliff | 22:16 |
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| jamielennox | ideally add_command_group would just override load_commands() to store a group list | 22:18 |
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| jamielennox | but i'm not sure of the release management if you have a newer version of cliff or older OSC how they would interfact | 22:18 |
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| dtroyer | I haven't looked at back-compat issues around doing that yet… | 22:19 |
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| dtroyer | and that's why adding a public wrapper to cliff first, then we can change OSC | 22:20 |
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| dtroyer | at a quick look pushing the group bits into cliff should be safe…osc then needs to be able to handle both versions, which should just work. | 22:23 |
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| dtroyer | also, if that happend, making_load_commands() public should no longer be necessary | 22:24 |
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| jamielennox | i pushed a new one that should be safe | 22:24 |
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| jamielennox | bah, no that won't work because _load_commands isn't called on __init__ | 22:25 |
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| jamielennox | dtroyer: ok, think that should work - grr, don't override private methods. | 22:29 |
| dtroyer | I know, right? | 22:30 |
| dtroyer | jeez, some people | 22:30 |
| jamielennox | :) | 22:30 |
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| kevinbenton | dtroyer: so deleting the old /opt/stack/cliff folder on the image before running devstack cleared it up | 22:33 |
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| kevinbenton | dtroyer: is there a devstack option to force a new setup.py from all of the folders? | 22:33 |
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| dtroyer | ah…I forgot that the libraries are set up differently…they are not in develop mode (pip's -e flag) | 22:52 |
| dtroyer | however, the setup bits are called on every run | 22:52 |
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| kevinbenton | dtroyer: do they skip if something is already installed? | 22:55 |
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| dtroyer | The git clone is skipped if RECLONE is not true. The setup.py stuff (actually we use pip for that now) is always done | 22:57 |
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| kevinbenton | yeah, i have RECLONE set to true | 23:00 |
| kevinbenton | so i don’t understand why deleting /opt/stack/cliff before running devstack fixed it | 23:00 |
| dtroyer | RECLONE doesn't actually remove the directory and start fresh, that is not an option when Zuul is setting up the source trees. So it tries to simulate that. | 23:02 |
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| dtroyer | We have had a series of problems with oslo libs in particular that usually need manual cleaning like this. If your devstack setup is old enough it may pre-date that fix | 23:03 |
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| kevinbenton | what was the fix? | 23:04 |
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| kevinbenton | because i always do a fresh clone of devstack | 23:04 |
| devoid | yea, I ran into the RECLONE is not rm, clone with devstack | 23:04 |
| dtroyer | changing to use 'pip -e' on them | 23:04 |
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| dtroyer | updating devstack itself isn't what I meant, it's the source dirs: /opt/stack/* | 23:04 |
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| kevinbenton | dtroyer: i’m missing something. where was the pip -e fix applied? | 23:08 |
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| dtroyer | in the rewrite of setup_develop() function that added setup_install(). | 23:09 |
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| kevinbenton | dtroyer: and where is that code at? | 23:10 |
| dtroyer | functions-common | 23:10 |
| kevinbenton | in devstack, right? | 23:10 |
| dtroyer | yes | 23:10 |
| kevinbenton | so if i’m always using a fresh devstack clone, why would i need to delete /opt/stack/*? | 23:11 |
| dtroyer | there is a difference between a fresh devstack clone (the devstack source itself) and the project repo clones (/opt/stack/*) | 23:12 |
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| dtroyer | er, /opt/stack/* | 23:12 |
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| kevinbenton | dtroyer: i understand. but what i don’t get is that if the fix was applied to devstack, why do i have to delete the projects | 23:13 |
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| kevinbenton | dtroyer: that’s the part i’m missing | 23:13 |
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| dtroyer | because the fix doesn't clean up the old installed stuff, it just does it correctly. | 23:13 |
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| kevinbenton | dtroyer: oh i see. it doesn’t fix them, it just stops breaking them | 23:14 |
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| dtroyer | at some point devstack really needs a fresh VM because things change out from under it and we don't keep track of that | 23:15 |
| kevinbenton | dtroyer: well each build gets a new vm from a clone that had one devstack run | 23:16 |
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| kevinbenton | dtroyer: was trying to cut down on build time | 23:16 |
| kevinbenton | dtroyer: takes a long time to install all packages and whatnot on a fresh system | 23:16 |
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| dtroyer | right. so it's when that one run has a problem it may not get fixed | 23:16 |
| dtroyer | have a look at tools/install_prereqs.sh, it's meant for pre-loading system packages, should be helpful. it needs a configured local.conf though to know which services will be used | 23:17 |
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| kevinbenton | dtroyer: ok. yeah, it’s a run from several months ago now so it needs to be refreshed anyway | 23:18 |
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| dtroyer | oh, that explains everything... | 23:19 |
| dtroyer | you might get away with once a week… our CI does it nightly | 23:19 |
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| dtroyer | and I just now put together that you're working ion a CI env too... | 23:19 |
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| dtroyer | it's dinnertime so I'm a little slow... | 23:20 |
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| kevinbenton | dtroyer: no prob. thanks for the help | 23:21 |
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