Tuesday, 2014-02-18

stevemarbknudson, what's the likelihood of henrys stuff going in today-ish?00:01
bknudsonstevemar: I don't know... does it need to go in today?00:01
morganfainbergbknudson, no.00:02
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morganfainbergbknudson, stevemar, it's in review and passing check, i think it just needs the normal review squabbling now00:02
jamielennoxbknudson: actually that change is kind of a problem now that we have individual auth plugins00:02
jamielennoxusername is no longer a property of the base plugin but the auth method on top of that00:03
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jamielennoxdstanek: is that ./run_test work you did suitable for oslo?00:08
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jamielennoxbknudson: does that work for you?00:14
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zyluobnemec, ping00:32
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bknudsonjamielennox: does what work?00:37
jamielennoxbknudson: oh i changed the v2 auth plugin a little00:37
bknudsonjamielennox: ok, I'll take a look00:37
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jamielennoxi thought you were still around - no rush though i would like to get these through00:38
bknudsonjamielennox: I had to do some shoveling00:38
jamielennoxthere are still a few more changes needing made before we can push the concept to other clients00:38
jamielennoxbknudson: heh, not a concept i'm familiar with00:38
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bknudsonjamielennox: I don't think I'll get to look at it today but will try to get to it tomorrow00:39
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jamielennoxbknudson: no worries - gyee is good with it so i think if i can get it past you we're ok00:39
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bknudsonjamielennox: I agreed with it in principle to begin with... but then it was making a change that wasn't backwards compatible00:40
bknudsonmaybe it could have been argued that what was released wasn't usable or something00:41
jamielennoxbknudson: yea i can't remember the timing of whether i uploaded that before or after the release00:41
bknudsonyou did upload it before the release00:41
bknudsonbefore the 0.6.0 release00:41
jamielennoxbknudson: no it's usable and i kept it, it just means that there are going to be some extra properties on there00:42
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jamielennoxlike v3 auth will have a username=None attribute that will not do anything00:42
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jamielennoxit could be a little confusing but it won't change anything00:42
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bknudsonok... seems that's going to make applications more complicated. although I suppose they use the factory00:42
jamielennoxbknudson: not really - i don't expect they will ever want to retrieve something like that00:43
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jamielennoxand if you do you will just have to know that they aren't there00:43
jamielennoxbknudson: at some point we are going to need a new major version and i can clean all this up00:44
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bknudsonjamielennox: that's going to be great.00:44
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bknudsonthere's an openstacksdk meeting this week00:44
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bknudsonprobably at 1am jamielennox time.00:44
jamielennoxbknudson: really?00:45
jamielennoxi said i was keen to be involved in that but didn't hear anything00:45
bknudsonjamielennox: I've got it on my calendar for 7pm utc on wed00:45
bknudsonthere was some more discussion on the -dev ml00:46
ekarlsojamielennox: an progress on the apiclient stuff ?00:46
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jamielennoxekarlso: yes, but not into other projects yet00:46
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ekarlsojamielennox: I could give it a shot00:47
ekarlsoif there's code00:47
jamielennoxekarlso: i can't remember - what project are you wanting to port it to00:47
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ekarlsojamielennox: designateclient this time00:47
jamielennoxekarlso: ohh, brand new00:47
jamielennoxok00:47
ekarlsojamielennox: nope ;)00:47
ekarlsoor well00:47
ekarlsonew version of it00:47
jamielennoxekarlso: v3 plugins https://review.openstack.org/#/c/68007/00:48
jamielennoxhas a v2 plugin dep00:48
jamielennoxekarlso: then i want to push https://review.openstack.org/#/c/60752/00:48
ekarlsojamielennox: is there a "common" client thing though in oslo yet ?00:49
jamielennoxat which point it should be ready to start pushing to clients00:49
jamielennoxekarlso: i wouldn't use the common base client from oslo00:49
ekarlsowhy not ?00:49
jamielennoxthe manager and resource code in oslo is ok00:49
jhesketh__Does anybody here have any experience with Grenade?00:49
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jamielennoxbut the client i think won't survive long like that00:50
jamielennoxekarlso: so i'd probably reuse https://github.com/openstack/oslo-incubator/blob/master/openstack/common/apiclient/base.py00:51
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jamielennoxit's not perfect but there isn't any ideas for better yet00:51
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ekarlsojamielennox: didn't you do work on the client code as well or ?00:52
jamielennoxekarlso: i've done a lot in keystoneclient, i didn't push anything to oslo00:53
jamielennoxi personally think oslo is a bad way of doing things for the client00:53
ekarlsojamielennox: where else should it go ?00:53
jamielennoxekarlso: straight to a lib00:53
ekarlsoah00:53
jamielennoxmultiple clients will often be used together00:53
ekarlsojamielennox: so what, 1 lib with all clients ?00:54
jamielennoxekarlso: that was proposed in that ML thread a while ago00:54
jamielennoxi initially thought no, i'm not sure now00:54
ekarlsowhat if a non incubated project wants to re-user parts of the code ?00:54
jamielennoxekarlso: they should still be able to import the base parts from the library00:55
jamielennoxbut i was thinking more of a client-base lib00:55
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jamielennoxekarlso: anyway i would use: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/60752/7/keystoneclient/baseclient.py as the base client00:55
ekarlsohow come that vs the oslo one ?00:56
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jamielennoxekarlso: the oslo one has no concept of the session object from keystone yet00:56
jamielennoxwe need to get the auth plugins figured out before we can push that00:56
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jamielennoxi also am not aware of any clients actually using the base client object from oslo00:57
jamielennoxeven the work for the common-client bp hasn't tried to tackle that00:57
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dstanekjamielennox: probably01:11
dstanekjamielennox: are you thinking of submitting it there?01:12
jamielennoxdstanek: i'm thinking i want some of the new things in keystoneclient01:12
jamielennoxat least -x01:12
jamielennoxi was just wondering if you had thought about it or how specific it is to keystone01:12
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dstanekjamielennox: it shouldn't be specific to keystone at all; i was just adding features as people asked01:16
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prometheanfireso, testscenarios is failing it's tests02:44
prometheanfireno one seems to be maintaining it02:44
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luisbgdstanek, hi! are you available?02:49
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prometheanfireor not, he was testing wrong :P03:11
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fandihi all03:22
fandii found this error from my horizon Error: Unable to retrieve details for instance "aff1b455-bd57-42e8-a824-1c2b93d09a0903:22
fandimay be some one can give a clue03:23
fandiif i check nova-list, this is instance is working03:23
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fandii can access this vm03:23
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luisbgfandi, report the bug in launchpad03:37
stevemardolphm, ping03:37
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ayoungbknudson, "let's not add these back in again."  Is that for the copyright notice or the vim line?    https://review.openstack.org/#/c/55908/46/keystone/contrib/revoke/backends/fake.py03:39
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jamielennoxayoung: there was something recently about vim lines03:44
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ayoungcan we drop them?03:44
jamielennoxayoung: i don't remember seeing anything about copyright notices03:45
ayoungjamielennox, I know we are supposed to stop adding them (this week)03:45
jamielennoxayoung: that's the plan i think03:45
jamielennoxayoung: i'm not sure if that's passed through keystone yet but i can only assume that's what he means03:45
ayoungvim or copyright>03:46
ayoung?03:46
jamielennoxvim03:46
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lbragstadjamielennox: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/70664/ gating!03:51
jamielennoxlbragstad: cool, just in time03:51
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luisbgam I requesting the reverify from Jenkins wrong? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/73694/03:53
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luisbgjamielennox, congrats :)03:53
lbragstadluisbg: do 'recheck bug 73694'03:54
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luisbglbragstad, I did reverify in an other bug and it worked, was that wrong?03:54
jamielennoxluisbg: reverify is only for when it has been approved03:55
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lbragstadyou can do reverify or recheck, but it depends on the state of the patch03:55
luisbgjamielennox, ooooh right, now I remember reading that :S03:55
luisbgmy bad03:55
lbragstadluisbg: what jamielennoxsaid03:55
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luisbgthanks for the help03:55
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luisbgjenkins log points to a failure in an unrelated part of the code, so want to recheck :)03:55
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lbragstadluisbg: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/GerritJenkinsGit#Test_Failures is a good reference03:56
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luisbglbragstad, thanks!03:57
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lbragstadluisbg: check out https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/125489003:59
lbragstadmight be what you're hitting03:59
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luisbglbragstad, I will check if it is that, if not I will see if I can report the new bug04:01
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dstanekhi luisbg, i see you got help already04:04
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luisbgdstanek, I had something else to ask you, but no worries :)04:06
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dstanekluisbg: ask away04:09
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jamielennoxstevemar: did you break devstack with openstackclient04:10
stevemarjamielennox, i hope not04:10
stevemarjamielennox, the gate is doing okay, is it just on your machine?04:11
jamielennoxstevemar: what's happening here: http://paste.openstack.org/show/66731/04:11
stevemarare you doing just a regular ./stack on your machine?04:12
jamielennoxstevemar: yes04:12
jamielennoxa raring box04:12
jamielennoxbrand  new vm04:12
stevemarjamielennox, can you do a 'env | grep OS' and unset any OS specific vars?04:12
stevemarjamielennox, brand new..04:12
jamielennoxhmm it appears i don't have a LC_ALL04:12
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stevemarisn't that locale stuff? why would that matter04:13
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jamielennoxwouldn't think it does04:13
stevemarjamielennox, you had me worried, i'm not healthy enough for comments like 'break devstack'04:13
jamielennoxhttp://paste.openstack.org/show/66732/04:14
luisbglbragstad, may I ask why did you request that recheck of the other bug in the thread of mine? just curious :) learning the process04:14
jamielennoxso no OS vars set04:14
stevemarjamielennox, looks like cliff uses it04:14
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luisbgdstanek, http://logs.openstack.org/34/74234/1/check/gate-python-cinderclient-python26/bd9a0e2/testr_results.html.gz04:15
lbragstadluisbg: we've been seeing a lot of those errors in the logs lately04:15
luisbgdstanek, failed in test: process-returncode? huh?04:15
jamielennoxstevemar: so is there something missing from the endpoint-create call04:15
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jamielennoxnormally that happens when something is missing and you can see the --varname with no param04:16
luisbglbragstad, oooh :(04:16
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lbragstadluisbg: I think the bug you linked to is here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/7369404:16
jamielennoxah missing the service name04:16
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jamielennoxstevemar: ok, it's nothing to do with you :)04:16
stevemarjamielennox, looks like neutron client had a similar issue: https://bugs.launchpad.net/devstack/+bug/124913104:16
luisbglbragstad, compiz? that is surprising04:16
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stevemarjamielennox, woo hoo04:17
jamielennoxstevemar: i don't think i've had a successful devstack run in ages04:17
lbragstadyeah. launchpad can scope to other projects04:17
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lbragstadluisbg: often times when you have a failure that you don't think is related to your change you can check the 'rechecks' page: http://status.openstack.org/rechecks/04:23
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lbragstadto see if others are hitting the issue too04:23
luisbglbragstad, wait, are you saying that since I use the gerrit number, it thinks I'm pointing to a random launchpad bug?04:23
lbragstadgerrit checks your text and if it contains 'bug XXXXXX' it will check launchpad for the bug number04:24
lbragstadas a way to link to the bug easily04:24
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lbragstadwhen you do a recheck you want to recheck the bug number, not the patch number04:24
luisbglbragstad, what if the review didn't originate from a bug?04:25
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lbragstadit will still recheck/reverify against the bug number you specified04:26
luisbglbragstad, I am hitting the same issue, it seems to be my code then :( why don't these tests fail when I run tox in my machine?04:26
lbragstadluisbg: because it *could* be something with the OpenStack CI system that it causing the failure. Some times that can happen04:27
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luisbglbragstad, but it happens once I changed a test to cover my change, a previous version of the patch passed04:30
fandihi, why this log appear  dashboard-horizon.exceptions: ERROR ESC[31;1mNot Found: The resource could not be found.04:30
dstanekluisbg: i have no idea why you're getting that error04:31
luisbgdstanek, ok, let's see how the recheck goes04:32
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luisbglbragstad, http://logs.openstack.org/94/73694/3/check/check-devstack-dsvm-cells/b093317/console.html#_2014-02-18_04_04_22_48404:55
luisbglbragstad, looks like the problem is Cinder returning an Internal Server Error04:56
luisbgand my changes are in oslo.config, going to search around to see if anybody else is seeing this04:56
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jamielennoxayoung: up late, what does your email mean?05:44
ayoungno clue.  im delerious05:45
ayoungdolphm, suggested with endpoint binding that we bind based on url05:45
ayoungnot on endpoint id, and that endpoint ID should not be exposed to the other services05:45
ayoungbut...I think it might be a mistake05:45
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ayoungcreat endpoint submits the url, and then keystone assigns the id05:46
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ayoungI think that is safer, especially if we are going to allow endpoint administrators to upload their own policy files.05:46
jamielennoxwhy would we not base that on service_id rather than endpoint_id?05:46
jamielennoxi don't like exposing endpoint id either05:46
jamielennoxi don't like exposing service_id either05:47
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jamielennoxbut the whole concept of registering an endpoint, getting that id and installing it in a config file seems wrong to me05:47
ayoungjamielennox, so, lets say I have a datacenter, and I let two competitors register their own nova servers05:49
ayoungits the same service, but different endpoints05:49
ayoungand each register their own policy files for how they want to manage policy05:49
jamielennoxa service_id in this sense simply holds together the three endpoints05:50
ayoung3?05:50
jamielennoxservice_id != 'compute'05:50
jamielennoxadmin, private, public05:50
jamielennoxerh, internal05:50
jamielennoxugh, i think i might be way off here05:51
ayoungso would you agree thattwo endpoints for the same service could have different policy files?05:51
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jamielennox... this sounds like it should be done by binding a service or endpoint to a project05:53
jamielennoxs/binding/scoping05:53
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ayoungYep, that too05:53
ayoungeverything goes in a project05:53
ayoungto include role defintions05:53
ayoungand policy files are done like role assignments:05:54
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jamielennoxok, so given that project_id is in a token why can't we check that>/05:54
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ayoungbut if you own an endpoint, you get to control which policy applies to your service05:54
irenabnstack-neutron05:54
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ayoungjamielennox, wrong project id05:54
ayoungthat project id is for the users resources05:55
ayoungnot for managing the endpoints05:55
jamielennoxayoung: so i agree that an enpoint might have a different policy05:55
jamielennoxbut not a different endpoint in the same project05:55
ayounglets say we have two providers of services:  IBM and HP.  Then me, from Red Hat has a project.  I use reseources in either the IBM or the HP endpoint05:55
jamielennoxall 'compute' endpoints in project_id == 'XXXXX' should be the same05:56
ayoungthe token I create says "this can only be used on the IBM compute endpoint "05:56
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jamielennoxhow should a service catalog know that?05:57
jamielennoxif i get a project scoped token05:58
jamielennoxhow am i supposed to distinguish these two endpoints?05:58
jamielennoxwhy should i want to?05:58
jamielennoxanything that is in my service catalog should be accessible to me05:58
ayoungjamielennox, you are right that it is set up by the endpoint filtering.  But separate that from the IBM and HP admins managing their own endpoints05:58
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ayoungso you create a project and decide which compute to use05:59
jamielennoxgranted there is probably right that we need some protection with keystone auth-ing any token it issuse for any purpose05:59
ayoungyour porject is named RH and uses the IBM  compute service.05:59
jamielennoxayoung: right, ok - but again that should be assigned at a project level06:00
ayoungwe want to make user that sneaky HP admin doesn't set the endpoint for his compute to be the same as the IBM one, and mask it by "accident"06:00
jamielennoxprojects are our grouping of permissions06:00
ayoungwell, we want to bind tokens to specific endpoints, not all endpoints in a project06:00
jamielennoxright - why?06:01
ayoungall endpoints assigned to a project06:01
ayoungum, cux limited scope:  reboot a vm is different than mount a partition06:01
ayoungand...think you it is going to be enforced:  the endpoint needs to enforce "hey, this token wasn';t meant for me"06:02
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ayoungit knows nothing about the service catalog assigned to the project06:02
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ayoungit just needs to look in the token and say "am I in the service catalog?"06:02
ayoungso, in effect, it iwll be definied by project, as that is how the endpoint filtering is setup06:02
jamielennoxok, but what is wrong with "i am an identity service in the XXXX project"06:03
ayoungas all endpoints for a project will be in the token by default06:03
jamielennoxthe service catalog contains an entry for identity06:03
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jamielennoxit's scoped to the right project06:03
stevemarayoung, the most recent saml auth patch should make you happy :)06:04
ayoungendpoint doesn't know that info until it comes in the token.  the project used to manage the endpoint is different than the project that the user comes in with06:04
ayoungstevemar, you rock...06:04
jamielennoxif for whatever reason there are two identity services in a catalog then i would expect them to offer the same servcie06:04
ayoungyeah, but that doesn't mean they need to enforce the same roles06:04
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ayoungI mean, identity probably will, and most services will take the defaults, but they don't have to06:05
jamielennoxayoung: i was thinking i'd raise the concept of multiple of the same service in a catalog at summit - but i don't think you're right on that06:05
jamielennoxayoung: i'm not sure i follow, the project that the user comes in on is always the one that is important06:06
ayoungjamielennox, remeber, there are people going to take what we do and run it to the extreme.  I know already one organization that is going to attempt to do exactly what I just described06:06
jamielennoxayoung: i don't think that it works unless you expect to distinguish between entries in the catalog somehow06:06
ayoungjamielennox  oh yes06:07
ayoungthat is key06:07
ayoungeach endpoint gets annotated with "provider" or "quality of service" or something to distinguish06:07
jamielennoxoh god06:07
ayoungthe catalog then becomes like the sears catalog:  choose which you want to buy06:07
ayoungOK...really going to bed now06:07
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jamielennox... that sounds horrible06:08
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tomoiagawas wondering about the HTTPretty library used in testing (keystone at least). Does the 0.8 version fix python 3.3 support ? I am looking for a way of testing rest calls and I would like to avoid the creation of mocks if anyone has any idea.10:32
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chmoueltomoiaga: keystoneclient use httppretty and it currently gates on py33 so my guess is that httpretty latest have support with py3.311:19
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jamielennoxtomoiaga, chmouel: as of 0.811:20
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tomoiagajamielennox, chmouel, thanks. I'm using 0.8, we'll see how it goes. Otherwise I'll have to relay on requests and mock that out and that's it, too much wasted time on searching for a good way to test a rest api client11:22
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chmoueltomoiaga: if that would help you decide.. httpretty is... heu pretty to work with :)11:23
jamielennoxtomoiaga: i rewrote the keystoneclient tests to use httpretty, it definetly has its quirks but i think you are much better going that way than mocking either requests or having fake handlers11:23
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tomoiagachmouel: I'll give it a shot. I like to performa low level integration tests most of the time, especially where functions are small and can be understood just by looking at them.11:24
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tomoiagajamielennox: indeed. I tried mocking and fake handlers since I am writing multiple rest clients and every one of them has a different approach. It will most likely become a mess in time unless a general approach can be used like with httpretty.11:26
jamielennoxtomoiaga: multiple openstack rest clients?11:26
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tomoiagajamielennox: yes (that and some others since I want to allow integration with other services as well), just to see how everything looks. Will eventually settle on one of them :) I couldn't decide what road to take and so I just started writing code to see the end result. Just thinking or writing things on a paper doesn't seem to always work, unless code is there to analyze.11:29
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tomoiagajamielennox: I may have read everything about "You ain't gonna need it" subject since I tend to waste my time writing too much code that's not going to be used. I just don't like how everything looks at the end, it's probably just me.11:31
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jamielennoxtomoiaga: that's ok, i was more wondering if you were involved in the other python-*clients or writing something of your own11:32
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tomoiagajamielennox: right now no, it's something on my own. I am writing a client and I want to make sure it can be used by others too.11:34
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tellesnobregamorganfainberg_Z: ping12:31
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rohitkmarkmc: Where does the node topic creation code exist after porting to Oslo?13:49
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markmcrohitk, 'the node topic creation' ?13:51
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rohitkmarkmc: creating consumers has been modified in service.py I think. How does this work now?13:52
markmcrohitk, here:13:52
markmcself.rpcserver = rpc.get_server(target, endpoints, serializer)13:52
markmc        self.rpcserver.start()13:52
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rohitkmarkmc: Ok, so where does topic.node topic get created? Basically I would like to add more topics for compute to listen to and would like to know the right place to do so13:54
* rohitk looking into rpcserver code13:55
markmcrohitk, the target parameter to get_rpc_server() specifies the topic; you'd need the oslo.messaging API to support multiple targets13:55
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markmcrohitk, would it be a different set of methods available on this topic?13:56
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rohitkmarkmc: A couple of additional methods only13:56
markmcrohitk, maybe give the concrete example13:57
markmcrohitk, what methods?13:57
rohitkmarkmc: Run instance13:57
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rohitkmarkmc: And the additional methods could be like compute capacity13:57
markmcrohitk, not following13:57
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rohitkmarkmc: Earlier, if I wanted a service to listen on additional topics, I could just call conn.create_consumer(new_topic)13:58
markmcrohitk, what specifically do you want to be available on this new topic?13:59
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rohitkmarkmc: run_instance. The compute subscribes to the topic only if it has capacity, don't want to subscribe to compute.node14:00
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markmcrohitk, sigh; have you got a link to your previous code?14:01
rohitkmarkmc: self.conn.create_consumer(instance_type_topic,14:01
rohitk                                          rpc_dispatcher,14:01
rohitk                                          fanout=False)14:01
markmcrohitk, no, a URL to the file14:01
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rohitkmarkmc: I have not published it, that code was in service.py create() method14:02
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rohitkhttps://github.com/openstack/nova/commit/1a91aacb85922f8d74733979691f0bf26249debc#diff-6c7cb3926c8b281613a4094caf540fdeL5914:02
rohitksomewhere around there14:02
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markmcrohitk, ok, I've got to join a meeting - happy to help more if you can show me the code14:03
rohitkmarkmc: I faced some issues after rebasing actually, after the code was ported to oslo.messaging14:03
rohitkmarkmc: No probs14:03
rohitkmarkmc: Thanks.14:03
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enykeevrohitk, it seems like you need to create additional rpcserver with the topic you want and the same list of endpoints14:05
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rohitkenykeev: That's what I need, I'm curious because now a single rpcserver created serves multiple topics, compute and compute.node14:07
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rohitkenykeev: Ok, I think I just need to create more targets14:08
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viktors2bnemec: hello14:13
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viktorsbnemec: ping14:57
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amadeusgreetings15:21
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amadeusSo I am using php-opencloud and queues, when issuing a claim I can see the return ID and such in a print_r, however short of doing something ugly I am unsure of the proper way to pull the data from the object. Any pointers?15:22
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bnemecviktors: Hey15:30
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bknudsondstanek: I think you made up "diaper pattern"15:31
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dstanekbknudson: i was just going to say that i think i heard it from a co-worker and then i found http://mike.pirnat.com/2009/05/09/the-diaper-pattern-stinks/15:32
dstanekso maybe...15:33
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viktorsbnemec: hello.15:33
ayoungbad smels in code should be refactored15:34
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bknudsondstanek: I agree it stinks to ignore exceptions, but seems pretty common in python...15:34
viktorsbnemec: Do you know, will Florian Haas restore his abandoned patches, which change work with sql mode in mysql?15:34
bknudsone.g., ignore KeyError15:34
viktorsbnemec:  https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:abandoned+project:openstack/oslo-incubator+branch:master+topic:bug-1271706,n,z15:34
ayoungbnemec, dstanek but you are wrong15:34
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ayoungYou should catch generic exceptions and not write your own15:34
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ayoungthe problem is not with the exception type, but with the error handling15:35
viktorsbnemec: I haven't see Florian in IRC15:35
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bnemecviktors: I don't know.  If he doesn't I was planning to pull down the branch and resubmit because I think this is important to have before we release oslo.db.15:36
bnemecAnd I think it was close to ready to go, it just needed a rebase for the config changes.15:36
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ayoungwell "wrong" is too string a term, as I think the general thing you are writing up is correct, but that you should not be writing your own exceptions...slightly different antipattern15:36
mriedemanyone here ever heard of or used meniscus?15:36
dstanekayoung: that's not what the diaper pattern is about - it's that if you are expecting an exception to happen then catch it - don't catch them all if you don't have to15:36
mriedemrackspace project to collect log data from the cloud?15:36
ayoungdstanek, yeah...but you need to diaper if you produce too many specific exceptions15:36
ayoungthey are related15:36
viktorsbnemec: agree with you :)15:36
ayoungI think the term is fantastic15:36
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ayoungI'd argue that the first thing to do when confronted with the diaper pattern is see if some exceptions are more equal than others and split them out into their own except blocks.15:38
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dstanekayoung: yeah, going crazy with a huge exception hierarchy makes the diaper pattern necessary - not cool15:38
ayoungdstanek, I'd like to axe our whoe keystone/exceptions.py tree for just that reason15:39
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ayoung"not found" is 404, give a good error message and move on15:39
bnemecviktors: I'll send Florian a direct e-mail and if he doesn't respond in a day or two I'll push a new version of the change.15:39
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dolphmthere's about 2 or 3 places where it is acceptable to `except Exception`, and that's it15:39
viktorsbnemec: ok, thanks!15:40
bnemecviktors: No problem :-)15:40
bknudsondstanek: do you think diapers should pass things they don't recognize?15:40
bknudsonor kids shouldn't wear diapers?15:40
dstanekbknudson: that would be a defective diaper - take the box back to Walmart15:41
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ayoungdolphm, yeah.  I liked how Java handled this.  The fact that you had to explicitly list the exceptions thrown on the method signature meant that your code would not compile if you didn't catch the posted types.  It wasn't a perfect system, with Errors being left outside the requirement, but it made tracking what threw what quite reasonable.15:42
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ayoungIts more like you have a clogged filter:  it catches everything, and should only be catching certain things....you have a bowl, not a collander.15:43
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bknudsonayoung: there are going to be functions that can wind up raising just about everything.15:43
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bknudsonfor example sending an event could have any number of problems... network issues, etc.15:43
ayoungbknudson, and if they are all going to be handled the same way, than Pokemon em15:43
bknudsonand then you can have different plugins.15:43
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dolphmayoung: i don't care about metaphors, i care about predictable code15:44
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ayoungdolphm, metaphors just keep us from getting boring.15:44
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ayounglanguage is important15:44
dolphmi find them to be distracting to basic communication15:44
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dstaneki use colorful language quite a bit to describe code - it just depends on the metaphor i guess15:47
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ayoungA bad metaphor is a distractor.  A good one can summarize an hours worth of verbiage into a single phrase.15:48
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ayoungdolphm, on the -2 on the revocation excpetion, I assume that was just due to the volume of corrections and the need for tests, not due to a fundamental problem with direction?15:54
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dolphmayoung: mostly due to the two things cited in the main review comment: implementing an undocumented API and a complete lack of tests which would have clearly illustrated the discrepencies against the documented API15:56
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ayoungthere are many tests, both for the underlying controller and the API.  I realize I am not filtering out hte uniqe ID on the KVS backend...that is needed for the SQL implementation, and is done in that patch15:57
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ayoungbut we don't document the version info in our API either. This is a connecting call between the top leve /v3 page and the extension.   It is a new concept,  and needs to be fleshed out.  I see no need to docuemtn it yet, but that doesn't mean we shoud not allow it:  lets let something grow organically.  How we link from / to versions to v3 to the extension is currently undefinied.15:59
ayoungand broken15:59
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ayoungbut you can't see that it is broken because our visual side of Keystone is also broken15:59
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ayoungsuch as the links from the XML not being valid urls and clickable15:59
ayoungbut...its not essential to this patch, I can easily remove it.16:00
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dolphmplease simplify things where you can16:00
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dolphmstevemar: marekd: ping - i'm trying to work out what happened to the saml + group assignments + assignments refactor patches16:02
bnemecviktors: Hmm, I just got an e-mail autoresponse from Florian that says he'll have limited e-mail availability until the 24th.16:02
bnemecCan we wait that long?16:02
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stevemardolphm, looks like all the work got pulled in16:03
dolphmstevemar: so the current patchset is still bad?16:03
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dolphmi haven't looked at the saml one yet, i'm looking at henry's patch first16:03
viktorsbnemec: so let's wait 24h16:04
ayoungdolphm, so by "where are the tests" your really mean "where are the v3_revoke_tests that test the public API?"16:04
dolphmstevemar: henry uploaded some changes to his patch in the last 12 hours16:04
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dolphmayoung: yes16:04
marekddolphm: pulled steves patch today, removed minor lines, rebased with master,git review'ed it....;/16:04
ayoungOK.16:04
dolphmfunctional HTTP API tests16:04
stevemardolphm, yeah, the sql group stuff, that we need should be updated to reflect that16:05
dolphmmarekd: did you squash when rebasing or something?16:05
marekdi did.16:05
stevemardolphm, it's just the saml auth patch shouldn't include it16:05
dolphmmarekd: :(16:05
marekddolphm: merde ;/16:05
ayoungdolphm, I was focusing on testing in test_revoke which is internal...I'd like to see if I can reuse that logic and just test the public API.  Its the same logic....I should be able to reuse that code as the fixture.16:06
dolphmmarekd: stevemar: laziest solution is to work on reviewing the underlying patches, and get them merged, then all the diffs will disappear from marekd's patch once master already contains those changes16:06
dolphmayoung: you need a keystone/tests/test_v3_os_revoke.py that does the same sort of testing that we do against the rest of the api16:07
stevemardolphm, yes, i was thinking that...16:07
ayoungstevemar, if you need to remove somethng from an existing patch: http://adam.younglogic.com/2014/01/splitting-a-patch/16:07
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marekddolphm: stevemar: ok, sorry guys for that.16:08
ayoungdolphm, right:  that is what test_revoke does, just using the internal APIs.16:08
ayoungI'll try to leverage to logic to test both ways16:08
dolphmmarekd: you can also checkout one of the older patchsets (one where steve fixed things last night?), reapply your changes and git-review --no-rebase16:09
marekddolphm: will do.16:09
dolphmayoung: but we're accountable for the HTTP API and matching the documented spec; testing that is the highest priority16:10
ayoungdolphm, not disagreeing,16:10
ayoungjust saying that the logic is there already,  just need to move it around16:10
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dolphmhenrynash: ping16:12
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henrynashdolphm: pong16:12
dolphmhenrynash: the latest patchset on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/71159/ was committed by stevemar -- can you review it and make sure all your intended changes are there?16:12
dolphmhenrynash: just want to make sure we're not losing effort16:13
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topoldolphm, stevemar THANKS for cleaning up my CADF authentication code!  I am humbled by the craftmanship that both of you performed!16:13
henrynashdolphm: I think Steve did it as a consequence of basing his patch upon it…..and I think one line somehow got removed (the .actor_id column request_)16:13
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dolphmtopol: ++ apologies for leading you down the wrong road!16:14
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dolphmhenrynash: can you correct that? i'm hoping to have your patch gating today :)16:14
henrynashdolphm: we can re-patch now…or push in what we have and I'll follow up with a gix16:14
henrynashdolphm: it's only an optimization16:15
topoldolphm.  no worries.  You and stevemar more than made up for it by cleaning up my code!!!  dolphm, we still should add audit support for things like token based authentication, correct?16:15
dolphmhenrynash: alright, happy to see it as a follow up then16:15
henrynashdolphm: yep, think that's easiest16:15
topoldolphm, right now it just does userId password auth, correct?16:15
dolphmhenrynash: is it bug report worthy? i want to make sure it's tracked against i3 somehow16:16
henrynashdolphm: I'll raise one16:16
dolphmhenrynash: thanks!16:16
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dolphmtopol: it's covering (auth + password changes) using (user name + user ID) on (v2 + v3)16:17
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ayoungdolphm, regarding the testing...it doesn't belong in the Keystone project proper, and it doesn't bleong in tempest.  We can't avoid breaking Keystone if we mess up the client, and the client code doesn't run against a liver server whe n it test:  conclusion, we need a keystone test project.  It can be built on Tempest, but it needs to be a tool for the Keystone developers to maintain the functional tests for Keystone.16:17
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ayoungIt will allow us to continue to write tests for Keystone server even after code freeze16:17
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dolphmayoung: that's a great goal, but it shouldn't be a blocker for implementing this feature and using our existing testing infrastructure16:18
ayoungOh, nmo, I am even now working on the API tests.  THat is easy16:18
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ayoungI'm thinking more about the compressed tokens16:18
ayoungI want to be able to work in changes to the client side16:19
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topoldolphm, OK16:21
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stevemarhenrynash, sorry about the late-night git rebasing16:25
ayoungdolphm, so, api tests, remove undocumented API, remove id from the public api...I'll have a new patch shortly16:26
henrynashstevemar: np!16:26
stevemarhenrynash, i checked it against the previous patch set and it looked good, guess i missed a line, my bad!16:26
henrynashstevemar: no worries...16:26
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henrynashdolphm: I thin kI'm going to have to rebase that assignment patch anyway…more stuff has change in master since that last version….so I i'll fix that line at the same time16:30
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dolphmhenrynash: ah, alright16:33
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henrynashdolphm: will post within 30 mins16:33
dolphmhenrynash: thanks!16:33
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stevemartopol, you're welcome :)16:34
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vhowardhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/74436/1/doc/admin-guide-cloud/locale/admin-guide-cloud.pot16:46
vhowardsorry wrong window trying to help someone out16:46
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dhellmanndevananda: ping?16:50
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henrynashdolphm: re-posted16:53
dolphmhenrynash: looking16:53
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henrynashdolphm: no changes, just rebased (and that missing line from patch 14 re-instated)16:54
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dolphmhenrynash: awesome16:56
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henrynashdolphm: I will also post a rebased version of: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/74214/ in an hour or two16:57
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dolphmstevemar: ^ ready: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/71159/17:00
stevemardolphm, thanks17:00
stevemardolphm, also, this is ready: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/69632/17:01
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stevemarin about 30 more seconds ...17:01
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dolphmstevemar: i'm keeping an eye on it too17:02
stevemardolphm, cmon zuuuul, almost there17:03
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stevemardolphm, looks like henrys patch failed docs cause the build server went offline, recheck? https://jenkins04.openstack.org/job/gate-keystone-docs/1136/console17:08
dolphmstevemar: lol recheck no bug!17:08
dolphmunless there's a bug for that17:08
stevemardoubt it.. or risk waiting another hour17:09
* russellb wonders when you guys are going to create #openstack-keystone :-)17:09
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stevemarrussellb, i've been saying that since i first joined17:09
dolphmbug 126873217:09
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russellb'tis what every other project does17:09
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dolphmrussellb: that actually exists, but we opted to not use it since we affect every other project anyway17:10
russellbthere's lots of cross project interaction though17:10
russellbneutron affects nova, cinder affects nova, everything affects horizon and heat17:10
russellbetc17:10
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dolphmrussellb: absolutely; i'd rather not hide in our own channel unless we're actually too disruptive here17:11
russellbi've heard a couple people recently say something like ... "I ignore #openstack-dev, it's only ever keystone chatter"17:11
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russellbmakes sense to use this when we need to ping/discuss the cross project stuff, though i'm not sure it gets used that way today17:12
dolphmrussellb: first i've heard the complaint, actually... but i'd expect it to a certain extent17:12
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russellbbut i think everyone assumes it's basically #openstack-keystone now :)17:12
dolphmrussellb: it definitely gets used for cross-project chatter17:12
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russellbyeah, some perhaps17:12
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russellbanyway, i personally think it makes sense to have your own channel17:12
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russellbwould rather that when i looked over here, it was primarily cross project stuff17:13
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dolphmrussellb: if that's a common sentiment, we can certainly switch17:13
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russellbwell it's mine at least, and it came up in some conversation at our nova meetup17:13
russellbso, take that fwiw i guess17:14
dansmithyeah, I've heard that several times recently17:14
dolphmmorganfainberg_Z: ^ fyi17:14
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dolphmrussellb: i'll bring it up at our meeting today and see if there's any sentiment either way within keystone17:14
russellbok sounds good17:14
russellbthanks :)17:14
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dolphmrussellb: of course17:16
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dolphmstevemar: looks like the grenade job on the CADF patch completed successfully and then got requeued17:28
stevemardolphm, noticed that, weird17:28
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morganfainbergdolphm, reading up17:56
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dolphmmorganfainberg: put it on the meeting agenda for today17:56
morganfainbergdolphm, done.17:56
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morganfainbergdolphm, ah, you put it there17:57
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morganfainbergdolphm, easy to switch up that channel etc if needed.17:59
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kfox1111anyone familior with keystone+ldap awake?18:08
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dstanekkfox1111: there's a keystone team meeting now, but maybe someone will be available after18:09
kfox1111ok. thanks. :)18:09
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dansmithmorganfainberg: exhibit A ^ :P18:12
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morganfainbergdansmith, LOL18:12
dansmithheh18:12
morganfainbergdansmith, ;)18:12
morganfainbergdansmith, we could move into -nova and hang out with you guys... we <3 you guys you know :) (yes, it is def on our agenda to talk about -keystone channel)18:13
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dansmithmorganfainberg: heh, you're always welcome, but we talk nova in th'ar18:14
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morganfainbergdansmith hehe18:15
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dansmithmorganfainberg: you've probably seen how we chase out usage askers.. just wait until you start up a keystone convo.. we'll get out the pitchforks18:15
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morganfainbergdansmith, *mkaes note to start keystone convo in -nova for funsies*18:15
dansmithheh18:16
morganfainbergdansmith, i lurk in -nova for a good reason.18:16
morganfainbergmostly lurk18:16
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stevemarthe latest action item from keystone meeting is sure to make russellb happy:  "everyone! switch to #openstack-keystone for project-local chatter"18:23
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morganfainbergrussellb, dansmith, i tried to convince them to use #openstack-nova... but we ended up with openstack-keystone18:26
morganfainbergdansmith, :)18:26
morganfainberg:P18:26
bnemecviktors: Heard back from Florian and he's going to revisit his patches tonight, so we should be in good shape to continue that work.18:27
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sdakedhellmann can you take a look at approving https://blueprints.launchpad.net/oslo/+spec/service-readiness18:51
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sdakeor commenting in general if not :)18:52
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stevemar#openstack-keystone is open for business!19:04
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morganfainberguvirtbot19:06
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morganfainberguvirtbot, help19:06
uvirtbotmorganfainberg: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin.19:06
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dhellmannsdake: looking19:22
dhellmannsdake: lots of -1 comments on that patch19:24
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sdakeon the patch there was a -1 because missing test case and a -1 from me because the missing blueprint id19:26
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sdakeI don't think there was any bad approach -1s19:26
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jrollanyone with commit bit on devstack mind looking at this? https://github.com/openstack-dev/devstack/pull/5019:27
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russellbjroll: pull requests aren't used for devstack19:45
russellbjroll: you submit patches via gerrit (review.openstack.org)19:45
russellbjroll: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/How_To_Contribute#If_you.27re_a_developer19:45
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dolphmrussellb: so, we switched to #openstack-keystone after our meeting today, and then i just realized that we should probably be using #openstack-identity instead, as it should be a program channel, rather than a project channel... i'm guessing that's come up for nova before because #openstack-compute auto kicks -- what's the story there? (cc morganfainberg)19:56
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russellbdolphm: meh, we have openstack-nova, openstack-cinder, openstack-ironic, openstack-neutron, openstack-marconi, openstack-barbican, openstack-trove, ....19:58
russellbas i look throught the channels i'm in19:58
russellbso i'd just keep -keystone for consistency i guess19:58
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russellbeven though if we were to start over, programs would make more sense indeed19:58
dolphmrussellb: could always make a big community-wide switch at once then19:59
morganfainbergrussellb, we also (might) have a second project19:59
morganfainbergrussellb, kite19:59
morganfainbergrussellb, (see governance/infra changes)19:59
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* russellb nods19:59
morganfainbergrussellb, and #openstack-keystone and #openstack-kite becomes silly in that regard19:59
russellbso just talk kite in #openstack-keystone19:59
russellbor call it #openstack-identity19:59
russellbdoesn't matter to me :-)19:59
russellbjust giving references to what else is in use19:59
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morganfainbergdolphm, i think this falls to you as PTL to chooooooose :)20:00
morganfainbergrussellb, thanks for input!20:00
russellbnp20:00
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dolphmrussellb: just curious if there was any extra perspective, thanks!20:04
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dolphmmorganfainberg: i'd rather be consistent with other channels for now; it's more important for people to be able to easily find us20:05
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morganfainbergdolphm, cool, i'll configure the other channel like openstack-compute then20:05
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ik__I am running unit test case for cinder20:14
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ik__pissed off seeing 'cannot import rpcapi' error even though all the imports work fine when making cinder calls20:15
ik__any idea what is going wrong?20:15
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ik__all the test cases for cinder are failing with 'cannot import rpcapi' error20:15
ik__:(20:15
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ik__anyone up?20:16
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jrollrussellb: got it, thanks. I saw a bunch of pull requests on github so I figured that was the route to go20:18
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jrollwill submit on gerrit20:18
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jrollok, here it is again if someone has a free cycle or two :) https://review.openstack.org/#/c/74488/20:24
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dimsdhellmann, ping21:14
dhellmanndims: pong21:15
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dimsdhellmann, running into trouble with gate-oslo.vmware-docs and gate-oslo.vmware-requirements in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/74474/ can you please take a quick look?21:15
dimsdhellmann, https://jenkins02.openstack.org/job/gate-oslo.vmware-docs/12/ and https://jenkins02.openstack.org/job/gate-oslo.vmware-requirements/10/ are the example runs21:16
dhellmanndims: looking21:16
dimsdhellmann, thanks, i'll be back in 5 mins (need coffee!)21:16
dhellmanndims: you've hit http://bugs.python.org/issue19570 -- which version of sphinx is in use?21:17
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dimsdhellmann, sphinx>=1.1.2,<1.221:26
dhellmanndims: what was actually installed? 1.2b3 or whatever is <1.2 and includes the bug21:26
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dhellmanndims: our requirements gate should be restricting the version of sphinx in the mirror, but that gate is not in use for all jobs21:26
dhellmanndims: this might be something for -infra21:27
dimsdhellmann, k. how about the problem in the other job. have you seen that before?21:27
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dhellmannthe requirements file not having a newline?21:28
dhellmannI haven't seen it, but it should be easy enough to fix, no?21:28
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dhellmannit's possible the cookiecutter template has a bad default file -- I edited the one for oslo.test, and my editor probably inserted the trailing newline forme21:29
dhellmann*for me21:29
dimsdhellmann, i thought so :) what ever i do to the requirements file, i can't fix it21:29
ekarlsois oslo.test out ?21:29
dhellmannekarlso: no21:29
ekarlsoawww!21:29
dhellmanndims: where's the review for that one?21:29
ekarlsodarn :)21:29
dhellmanndims: is it the same review?21:29
ekarlsotell me when dhellmann, i'll tryto get it into libra / designate21:29
dimsdhellmann, both problems are in review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/74474/21:29
dhellmanndims: it looks like the original requirements.txt in master is the bad file21:32
dhellmanndims: you might have to disable that gate job, fix that file, and then re-enable it21:33
dimsk thanks21:33
dhellmanndims: we should probably figure out a way to run some of these tests against the github repos before we import them :-/21:33
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dimsdhellmann, yep21:34
dhellmanndims: but ask on infra, maybe they have a better idea about addressing it21:34
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dimsdhellmann, thanks will follow up21:41
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luisbgbknudson, ping21:43
bknudsonluisbg: what's up?21:43
luisbgbknudson, I am getting a HTTP 500 (Internal Server Error) from Cinder in Jenkins, and not sure what to do :(21:44
luisbgbknudson, this is for a bug you reported last week21:44
luisbghttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/73694/ <-- last comment there explains it21:44
bknudsonluisbg: what bug?21:44
luisbgbknudson, https://bugs.launchpad.net/oslo/+bug/127997321:44
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1279973 in keystone "Help text for deprecated cli option has _ rather than -" [Low,New]21:44
bknudsonluisbg: I haven't done any development on cinder so probably couldn't help you here.21:45
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luisbgbknudson, patch has nothing to do with Cinder, it is for oslo.config21:45
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luisbgbut Cinder gives an error in the Jenkins test build, and I can't find it listed in /rechecks/21:46
bknudsonluisbg: if there's no bug filed for something then you can file a new one.21:46
luisbgbknudson, wanted to confirm it is new before reporting something that isn't :)21:47
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luisbgbknudson, https://bugs.launchpad.net/tempest/+bug/1281804 <-- reported it. thanks for the help! :)21:53
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1281804 in tempest "Cinder ERROR: The server has either erred or is incapable of performing the requested operation. (HTTP 500)" [Undecided,New]21:53
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bruffHey, quick question on devstack's local.conf format, what is the (is there) a line comment character?22:00
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zzelleclarkb, hi22:09
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completely-despeHi everyone22:22
completely-despewonder if antyone could give me a hand22:22
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completely-despeI'm setting up a dev stable havana neutron envrionment22:22
completely-despebut every time I execute the run_tests.sh -P -v -f22:23
completely-despei get cp: cannot stat `.testrepository/-1': No such file or directory22:23
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completely-despethe environment is Centos 6.4 with python-2.7.322:23
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completely-despeany clues on how i could approach this would be really appreciated22:23
completely-despethe default python interpreter is pointing to the 2.7.3 version22:24
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luisbgcompletely-despe, you are missing the file22:30
luisbgcompletely-despe, I don't have the same setup as you, do you know where run_tests.sh tries to copy that file?22:31
luisbgcompletely-despe, do you have openstack running before you try to run the tests?22:31
completely-despeit looks like is trying to copy the file which doesn't exist22:32
completely-despeas for openstack no I don't have it running, should i have it running for running  unit testing ?22:32
completely-despethe venv gets built properly22:32
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luisbgcompletely-despe, yes, you should have it running, if not the tests don't have anything to test against22:33
completely-despeI thought they were going to work like the keystone unit testing22:33
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completely-despejust as something extra this is the command that is giving me that error22:34
completely-despeRunning `tools/with_venv.sh python -m neutron.openstack.common.lockutils python setup.py testr --slowest --testr-args='--subunit  '` [pbr] Excluding argparse: Python 2.6 only dependency running testr22:34
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luisbgcompletely-despe, no idea, sorry22:36
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completely-despethanks luisbg22:45
completely-despeI'm kinda new to the neutron project so I'm a little bit lost with it22:45
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BLZbubba_if I have /var/lib/glance and /var/lib/nova on the same reflink-compatible filesystem, how painful would it be to have nova do a reflink copy to _base (or even a symlink) of the image file instead of doing a full copy?22:50
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zzelleBLZbubba_, it's  a bad idea22:50
zzelleIMHO22:51
devoidis there a good guide out there for doing nova development with devstack? I'm having a heck of a time getting a working devstack started...22:51
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zzelleBLZbubba_, AFAIK, because a new image is done for every flavor in order to integrate the specific flavor size22:53
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BLZbubba_ok so a symlink would be bad but a reflink would be ok22:54
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zzelleBLZbubba_, no22:56
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zzelleBLZbubba_, glance images and nova base images are not the same normally22:57
zzelleBLZbubba_, nova ones are glance images + resize22:57
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BLZbubba_zzelle: right, a reflink copy lets you modify the copy without affecting the original23:01
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BLZbubba_did _base ever get separated from the instances path?  they should be different config options23:05
BLZbubba_assuming that _base should go in instances is causing some problems here23:05
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openstackstatusNOTICE: Gerrit login issues should be resolved.23:33
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