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| jamielennox | gyee: any chance you had a look at my replies on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/60751/9/keystoneclient/auth/base.py | 00:20 |
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| gyee | jamielennox, not yet | 00:21 |
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| gyee | jamielennox, it think it boils down to what the session expects versus how much control does the auth plugin has | 00:23 |
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| gyee | jamielennox, take multi-factor auth for example, there could be multiple exchanges between the plugin, the user, and the server | 00:24 |
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| gyee | server issue a challenge, auth plugin get the response from the user | 00:24 |
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| gyee | jamielennox, if you take a look at the JAAS design, it has callbacks for this kind of stuff | 00:25 |
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| jamielennox | gyee: i don't know JAAS but i don't think we are excluding that we are just pushing it into a plugin | 00:26 |
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| jamielennox | AccessInfo is only available for Keystone V2 and V3 | 00:26 |
| gyee | jamielennox, my point is plugin needs to be able to interact with the user at some level | 00:27 |
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| gyee | AccessInfo was meant to abstract the token | 00:27 |
| jamielennox | if you were to do your own auth plugin that handled token management in a completely seperate way then i don't think you should be required to do AccessInfo | 00:27 |
| gyee | jamielennox, gotta run, be back in an hour | 00:27 |
| jamielennox | gyee: but if you're looking for that kinda control and niche case then accesinfo can't do it anyway | 00:27 |
| jamielennox | gyee: np | 00:27 |
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| vishy | zul: you guys want this | 00:46 |
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| vishy | http://sourceforge.net/p/mysql-python/bugs/324/ fixed by: https://github.com/farcepest/MySQLdb1/commit/e6d24c358d0c0ad9249044dad09e63e039c527e1 | 00:46 |
| vishy | it isn't in ubuntu | 00:47 |
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| vishy | adam_g: ^^ | 01:05 |
| zul | vishy: cool ill have a look | 01:05 |
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| vishy | zul: fyi you get deadlocks that aren't picked up and retries without it | 01:09 |
| zul | vishy: cool good to know | 01:09 |
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| praneshp | ayoung: dolphm yt? | 02:01 |
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| praneshp | #keystone-dev | 02:04 |
| praneshp | ayoung: dolphm any keysone devs? Why do we throw away context here? https://github.com/openstack/keystone/blob/2013.2/keystone/policy/backends/rules.py | 02:04 |
| praneshp | for enforce() | 02:05 |
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| jamielennox | praneshp: you mean context is never passed through? | 02:06 |
| praneshp | jamielennox: ya | 02:06 |
| jamielennox | praneshp: because it isn't used by anything in the rule engine | 02:07 |
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| jamielennox | let me find the protected decorator | 02:08 |
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| jamielennox | anyway, the context holds things like a few environmental vairables that are mostly used for auth | 02:08 |
| praneshp | jamielennox: https://github.com/openstack/keystone/blob/2013.2/keystone/policy/core.py#L63 seems to pass it through | 02:09 |
| jamielennox | praneshp: by the time we get to rule enforcement we've already compiled all the information that we need to check against rules | 02:09 |
| jamielennox | praneshp: from memory it was removed there and a bunch of other places where it was deemed not needed - but i can't remember the exact reason | 02:10 |
| jamielennox | do you need it for something? | 02:10 |
| praneshp | no, I am just trying to upgrade from Grizzly to Havana and this was breaking the code | 02:10 |
| jamielennox | the rules backend should match against things such as are the roles valid - this information has nothing to do with the context | 02:10 |
| praneshp | got it | 02:11 |
| praneshp | thanks | 02:11 |
| jamielennox | praneshp: you can just drop the context and it will work | 02:11 |
| praneshp | yeah, going to try that now. | 02:12 |
| praneshp | I was thrown off because Grizzly used to keep the context | 02:13 |
| praneshp | https://github.com/openstack/keystone/blob/2013.2/keystone/policy/core.py#L63 | 02:13 |
| praneshp | thanks a lot | 02:13 |
| praneshp | jamielennox: ^^ | 02:13 |
| jamielennox | praneshp: no worries | 02:13 |
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| ayoung | praneshp, I'm here | 02:18 |
| praneshp | ayoung: jamielennox helped me, thanks | 02:19 |
| ayoung | good | 02:19 |
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| ayoung | jamielennox, what would happen if we did a fork before launching the servers for the unit tests? Would it be possible to use a different version of python-keystoneclient in the server than in the tests? | 03:20 |
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| stevemar | ayoung, morganfainberg|z can i get a review of: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/69976/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/69977/ | 04:16 |
| stevemar | dstanek, ^ or any other late night keystoners | 04:16 |
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| jamielennox | ayoung: sorry, you still here? | 04:18 |
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| ayoung | jamielennox, yeah..just reviewing your DB patch | 04:19 |
| ayoung | stevemar, will do | 04:19 |
| jamielennox | ayoung: excellent | 04:19 |
| ayoung | then I need to go to bed | 04:19 |
| jamielennox | umm, yes if you forked the server then the client tests would work | 04:19 |
| jamielennox | but you are driving the tests via the client | 04:19 |
| jamielennox | as in all those tests are actually doing the code execution, so it's not so much that you could fork the client | 04:20 |
| jamielennox | you'd have to fork the server before every test | 04:20 |
| jamielennox | (off the top of my head) | 04:20 |
| jamielennox | and given we have eventlet there i'm not sure it buys anything | 04:20 |
| jamielennox | better to juts move them to tempest | 04:20 |
| ayoung | tempest won't take em | 04:21 |
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| ayoung | jamielennox, I'd like a short term solution to using a different client from test and server side | 04:22 |
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| ayoung | the test would need to go across a socket to do it right, wouldn't it | 04:22 |
| jamielennox | ayoung: yea | 04:22 |
| ayoung | jamielennox, BTW +2. Rebase the follow on patch | 04:22 |
| ayoung | looking at stevemar 's now | 04:22 |
| stevemar | thx ayoung | 04:23 |
| jamielennox | ayoung: sweet - now for 20 rounds of the next one | 04:23 |
| ayoung | stevemar, WTF am I looking at here? | 04:23 |
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| ayoung | Do I need to learn JSON schema before I can do a code review, or should I just blindly LGTM? | 04:24 |
| stevemar | ayoung, lol the other one might be easier then :P | 04:24 |
| ayoung | is "required" a majik field? | 04:24 |
| stevemar | ayoung, or you could work with the thinking of 'well it brant likes it...' | 04:25 |
| ayoung | stevemar, is that part of Schema? | 04:25 |
| jamielennox | stevemar: are we doing full jsonschema now? | 04:25 |
| jamielennox | stevemar: i've spent the morning hacking through WSME - i think i can make it work but i'm not sure if it's better than just using jsonschema | 04:25 |
| ayoung | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/69976/2/keystone/contrib/federation/utils.py jamielennox | 04:25 |
| stevemar | ayoung, yes, it's a part of the schema, it dictates which keys are required | 04:25 |
| ayoung | OK..I can +2 | 04:25 |
| jamielennox | ayoung: that's what i'm looking at | 04:25 |
| ayoung | jamielennox, ah...I had it in expanded view...the import jsonschema is in the first few lines | 04:26 |
| * stevemar nods | 04:26 | |
| jamielennox | i hadn't seen it before - the federation takes up too many cycles when i don't have any other input to it | 04:26 |
| ayoung | stevemar, I +2d. Letting jamie look, or you can approve if he disappears | 04:26 |
| jamielennox | i'm just wondering if it's easier to just jsonschema the v3 api | 04:27 |
| jamielennox | we can still do the falcon side of things | 04:27 |
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| stevemar | jamielennox, just jsonschema'ing the mapping rules | 04:27 |
| ayoung | Bed | 04:27 |
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| dstanek | hey stevemar | 05:14 |
| stevemar | dstanek, greetings sir | 05:14 |
| dstanek | stevemar: i see one of those reviews was already approved | 05:15 |
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| dstanek | stevemar: the other has 2 +2s - do you know why it wasn't approved? | 05:15 |
| stevemar | dstanek, it was too late for ayoung to dive into schemas :) | 05:16 |
| dstanek | stevemar: :-) | 05:16 |
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| dstanek | stevemar: is line 56 on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/69976/2/keystone/contrib/federation/utils.py necessary? | 05:16 |
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| stevemar | dstanek, hmm, good point | 05:18 |
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| stevemar | dstanek, naming the key 'type' was a terrible idea :( | 05:19 |
| dstanek | stevemar: lol, yes very confusing | 05:20 |
| stevemar | dstanek, it's not necessary, at least the tests don't think it is | 05:20 |
| dstanek | stevemar: i don't think it is either | 05:20 |
| stevemar | dstanek, it makes sense to be at the same level as 'additionalProperties' and 'properties' | 05:20 |
| stevemar | the inner one is just weird | 05:20 |
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| dstanek | stevemar: based on what i've read about jsonschema the one you added is correct and the one that was already there doesn't do anything | 05:21 |
| stevemar | dstanek, new patch | 05:21 |
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| stevemar | dstanek, agreed | 05:21 |
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| dstanek | stevemar: what's the difference between the missing type and wrong type tests? i'm assuming that they are meant to test for different reasons for the same failure | 05:26 |
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| stevemar | dstanek, same failure as in the schema should say it's not valid | 05:27 |
| dstanek | stevemar: ah i see they are both really missing type errors | 05:29 |
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| stevemar | dstanek, just trying to make sure I catch all incorrect rules structure | 05:29 |
| dstanek | stevemar: do you have a test they checks additional properties? one that does have a type, but maybe also has an other_type | 05:31 |
| stevemar | dstanek, hmm, nope, but i can do that in another patch? | 05:31 |
| stevemar | or want me to toss one in here? | 05:31 |
| dstanek | stevemar: no it can be in another, just thinking of other things to test :) | 05:32 |
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| stevemar | dstanek, i definitely want to add more of the malicious rules type of tests, and more in general to my rule/engine one | 05:33 |
| stevemar | dstanek, but right now i'm responding back to brants comments, which are many, so that'll be a while | 05:33 |
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| dstanek | stevemar: i just +2ed that one - lgtm | 05:34 |
| stevemar | yahooo | 05:35 |
| stevemar | dstanek, what are the rules for approving my own patch? since ayoug and brant already +2'ed them? | 05:35 |
| stevemar | dstanek, (waiting for jenkins anyway) | 05:36 |
| dstanek | stevemar: good question; dolphm is always up early so i'm sure he'd approve it pretty quickly | 05:37 |
| stevemar | dstanek, good point | 05:37 |
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| dstanek | dolphm: ping | 15:42 |
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| dolphm | dstanek: pong | 15:42 |
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| dstanek | dolphm: i was looking at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/56243 and was thinking about suggesting moving logic out of the driver and into the manager | 15:43 |
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| dstanek | dolphm: we started having conversations on this, but i don't remember where people stand | 15:44 |
| dstanek | dolphm: do you think that is the right place for the logic? | 15:44 |
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| dstanek | dolphm: summary of the changes as i see them - http://paste.openstack.org/show/62178/ | 15:44 |
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| dolphm | dstanek: the business logic should definitely be in the manager | 15:45 |
| dstanek | dolphm: cool, publishing my review now then | 15:46 |
| dstanek | dolphm: thx | 15:46 |
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| dolphm | dstanek: has_remaining_uses() in the driver should be replaced with get_remaining_uses(); and it looks like some new logic in the controllers should be pushed down to the trust manager | 15:46 |
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| dstanek | dolphm: you're thinking the validation should start moving toward the manager? i would definitely agree as i see the job of controllers to just turn web stuff into domain stuff | 15:49 |
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| morganfainberg | dstanek, ++ | 16:53 |
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| morganfainberg | dstanek, ideally controllers should only (as far as i can tell) massage data into usable formats / convert to expected output | 16:58 |
| morganfainberg | dstanek, that was part of that massive cleanup for delete logic i did earlier | 16:58 |
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| digambar | Hello Russellb | 18:03 |
| russellb | digambar: hi | 18:03 |
| digambar | what is the deadline to submit the blueprint design for icehouse-3 | 18:04 |
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| digambar | I want to submit the design for my submitted blueprint with all the description note | 18:06 |
| digambar | So I am asking, is there any date you have finalized for final submission ? | 18:06 |
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| digambar | Hello Russellb | 18:19 |
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| digambar | Completed whole code debugging for nova with all the commands | 18:20 |
| digambar | Can you suggest me from where should I start the coding as a new joinee.. | 18:21 |
| digambar | ?? | 18:21 |
| russellb | digambar: icehouse-3 blueprints must be approved by this coming Tuesday | 18:21 |
| digambar | ok | 18:22 |
| digambar | then I'll submit all the design by tomorrow | 18:23 |
| digambar | Thanks you | 18:23 |
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| sundjango | hi, I am new to OpenStack and would like to participate in the development. What would you suggest me to do first? Which issues would be the easiest to start and get familiar with? | 19:04 |
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| zzelle | sundjango, you can look at bugs with the low-hanging-fruit tag | 19:27 |
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| alanmeadows | Is there a blueprint/plan for multiple keystone backends -- similar to Neutron ML2 Network Segments? e.g. several ldap backends somehow selected by the auth process | 19:40 |
| morganfainberg | alanmeadows, we have some of the basic structures in place to leverage that, but the code wasn't completed and has some flaws. The usecase of multiple LDAP backends is still on the roadmap for Keystone | 19:41 |
| morganfainberg | alanmeadows, likely we will be leveraging the federation work currently being done to make that implementation cleaner | 19:41 |
| morganfainberg | alanmeadows, that is the some of the same mechansims as federation work | 19:42 |
| alanmeadows | morganfainberg: awesome, is there any place/wiki/anywthing to follow that effort? | 19:42 |
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| morganfainberg | alanmeadows, well there was a BP for it in the havana timeline and a couple bugs. | 19:42 |
| morganfainberg | but. i don't know where those are/status | 19:42 |
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| alanmeadows | I'll hunt it down, thank you :) | 19:43 |
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| ayoung | alanmeadows, I have a POC for code that is necessary but not sufficient for multi ldap | 19:56 |
| ayoung | the idea is that we need to change how we do user-id assignments | 19:57 |
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| alanmeadows | ayoung: was just reading https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Keystone/Delegation | 19:57 |
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| ayoung | Ha!...that is old.... | 19:59 |
| alanmeadows | You've got to start at the beginning :) | 19:59 |
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| ayoung | yeah, but there have been a few dead ends...I need to go through and mark as deprecated a bunch of wiki pages | 20:00 |
| alanmeadows | An update to the way user-id assignments is made for this to work was not immediately obvious to me but i trust that it is, is there somewhere that is discussed? | 20:00 |
| ayoung | alanmeadows, so the bones are in place for multiple LDAP, but we have an issue when it comes to role assignemnts | 20:00 |
| ayoung | bascially, figuring out what backend a user came out of, and making sure that one userid can't mast another one when you have multiple backends | 20:01 |
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| ayoung | we have a plan in plac that basically composes the userids out of two pieces: one from LDAP, and the other being a domain identifier. But to do that, we need to make sure that all fo the places that sotre userids can hold the new, larger identifiers | 20:01 |
| alanmeadows | i see | 20:02 |
| ayoung | probablty won't happen for icehouse, but maybe...just maybe | 20:02 |
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| ayoung | otherwise, we'll target Juno 1 | 20:02 |
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| alanmeadows | ok | 20:02 |
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| alanmeadows | if you dont mind me asking what is the criteria in this approach for choosing which backend to query -- the domain? | 20:03 |
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| morganfainberg | alanmeadows, ayoung has a clearer view on it than I do atm | 20:22 |
| morganfainberg | obviously | 20:22 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, also, hi! | 20:22 |
| ayoung | morganfainberg, what is it now you great pillock? | 20:23 |
| ayoung | I mean, Hi! | 20:23 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, heh | 20:23 |
| ayoung | morganfainberg, you were looking for the argument clinic next door. This is 'abuse.' | 20:23 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, lol | 20:23 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, nah, i was looking for getting hit on the head lessons | 20:24 |
| ayoung | alanmeadows, yes, the domain | 20:24 |
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| ayoung | alanmeadows, the idea is that a given backend wil support one or more domains. THe userid will have the domain id embedded | 20:24 |
| alanmeadows | ayoung: that makes sense to me | 20:25 |
| ayoung | so you an lookup in the domain table: dom=D is in backend=B | 20:25 |
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| ayoung | alanmeadows, good | 20:25 |
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| dhellmann | marun: pong | 20:33 |
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| marun | dhellmann: https://bugs.launchpad.net/oslo/+bug/1273581 | 20:34 |
| marun | dhellmann: hopefully the repro instructions are useufl | 20:34 |
| dhellmann | marun: yeah, this is a known issue with namespace packages | 20:35 |
| dhellmann | marun: why do you want to install some packages editable and some not editable? | 20:35 |
| marun | dhellmann: devstack is doing it for me | 20:35 |
| marun | dhellmann: that's the bug | 20:35 |
| dhellmann | marun: it doesn't do that to me | 20:35 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, we did agree that the non-default idp backend would be read-only (e.g. secondary LDAP) and we wouldn't be providing crud for it? | 20:35 |
| marun | dhellmann: well, that's accidental I think | 20:35 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, i don't remember. | 20:35 |
| dhellmann | marun: perhaps there is a difference in the inputs we're feeding to devstack? | 20:36 |
| ayoung | morganfainberg, I'd love that to be the case, but I don' | 20:36 |
| dhellmann | marun: I'm not installing neutron, for example | 20:36 |
| ayoung | t know if we can swear by it | 20:36 |
| marun | dhellmann: nova depending on nova.rootwrap in requirements and oslo.* installing from source would seem to conflict for some people | 20:36 |
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| morganfainberg | ayoung, i think we should go down that path and aim for it... (esp. if we aim for Juno-1) and if someone complains work to add in CRUD | 20:36 |
| dhellmann | marun: the oslo.rootwrap from source should be installed before nova, and be present for nova's requirement resolution | 20:36 |
| ayoung | morganfainberg, its not a bad approach, but I think allowing secondary, writable LDAPs won't break anything | 20:37 |
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| ayoung | alanmeadows, no fear asking: my employer cares about LDAP, but the multipe thing was actually first proposed by IBM. The thing is, we need to solve the problem for Fedration as well, so it is necessary across the board. I suspect that, at some point, the sales folks etc will come to us asking for multi ldap support, but they haven't yet | 20:37 |
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| marun | dhellmann: you'd think so, but oslo.rootwrap is always installed from pypi for me :( | 20:38 |
| ayoung | alanmeadows, take a look at this | 20:38 |
| alanmeadows | ayoung: excellent :) | 20:38 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, i know a lot of the complexities came from trying to determing the domain backend for crud. it removes that silly `guess the domain from my token` logic. | 20:38 |
| ayoung | alanmeadows, https://github.com/admiyo/keystone/commit/54f5bd89741c0735486dc82d9e05e3849f852cc1 | 20:38 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, i think we can do multiple read/write backends, just not sure how valuable it is | 20:38 |
| alanmeadows | guess the domain is a recipe for disaster :) | 20:38 |
| dhellmann | marun: can you pastebin your localrc? | 20:39 |
| morganfainberg | and reduced complexity is a nice goal ;) | 20:39 |
| ayoung | take that code, apply it, and get all of the unit tests to work again, and we are halfway there | 20:39 |
| morganfainberg | alanmeadows, yes yes it is. | 20:39 |
| alanmeadows | ayoung: will review, thanks! | 20:39 |
| ayoung | need some migration scripts. The Userid fields are currently 64 chars long. They ned to be double that, plus space for a field separator | 20:39 |
| alanmeadows | thats not a big deal | 20:39 |
| ayoung | Henrynash and I were discussing it, and we thinkg for field separator we are going to go with @@ | 20:40 |
| ayoung | @ because it is web safe | 20:40 |
| ayoung | and @@ to make sure we can distinguish if som company uses email address as their userid | 20:40 |
| alanmeadows | oh what I wouldn't give for more people to take web safe strings into account... | 20:40 |
| ayoung | alanmeadows, if you can make it happen, the beer is on me | 20:40 |
| ayoung | morganfainberg, I'm kvelling over the token revocation code. It is the most fun I've had coding in a long time | 20:41 |
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| morganfainberg | ayoung, ++ awesome to hear | 20:42 |
| ayoung | morganfainberg, are you clear on the design? using a tree as an index? | 20:42 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, probably similar to when i'm elbow deep in kvs and caching | 20:42 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, i was really ill when i tried to read that code. i need to come back to understand your tree | 20:42 |
| ayoung | yeah, burt with the added benefit of not having to user other peoples technologies. this is all mine | 20:42 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, but the premise makes sense to me | 20:42 |
| ayoung | OK, so each event when it comes in gets added to the tree. It will add a unique path | 20:43 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, right | 20:43 |
| marun | dhellmann: hmmm | 20:43 |
| ayoung | there are two cases: exact attribute match, or catch-all | 20:43 |
| marun | dhellmann: i'll paste it | 20:43 |
| ayoung | then, a token gets matched to the tree, and if it makes it all the way to a leaf node, it is revoked | 20:44 |
| marun | dhellmann: looking at it, i'm wondering if force_prereq could be involved | 20:44 |
| marun | dhellmann: i even have a comment to check it if devstack is failing :( | 20:44 |
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| morganfainberg | ayoung, seems like a standard search-tree kind of setup | 20:44 |
| ayoung | morganfainberg, the cool thing is, the process of adding an event to the tree is reversable. If I keep the original list of events, I can remove them from the tree, and clean up, when the events are no longer relevant | 20:44 |
| dhellmann | marun: I have that turned off | 20:44 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, that is nice | 20:44 |
| dhellmann | marun: or at least commented out, so the default is used | 20:45 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, rather than a static list | 20:45 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, ++ i like | 20:45 |
| ayoung | its beeeyooouuuteeefulll | 20:45 |
| marun | dhellmann: http://pastebin.com/59At8JkK | 20:45 |
| marun | dhellmann: i'll try without that on and see if that fixes things | 20:45 |
| ayoung | I'm looking forward to writing up this one | 20:45 |
| ayoung | oh...so I havea sql backend, but I also want to redo the KVS backend | 20:46 |
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| dhellmann | marun: http://pastebin.com/T7aTzirc | 20:46 |
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| dhellmann | marun: that worked for me earlier today | 20:46 |
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| ayoung | is your KVS code ready, or are you still reworking it? | 20:46 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, nod. i'm about to take a crack at getting the non-expiry keys patch fixed. | 20:46 |
| dhellmann | marun: note I don't use neutron, so that's something else to experiment with to see what's causing the extra deps | 20:46 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, if you don't need non-expiring keys it is workable now | 20:46 |
| morganfainberg | flaper87, ping | 20:47 |
| ayoung | hmmmm | 20:47 |
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| ayoung | well, events should eventually time out. But I don't want to lose events before their time | 20:47 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, i think you can just use token-expiry since you don't need to maintain an event longer than the longest life token, right? | 20:47 |
| ayoung | yeah...O | 20:48 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, maybe token-expiry + <some delta magic> | 20:48 |
| ayoung | I'm adding a buffer | 20:48 |
| ayoung | ++ | 20:48 |
| marun | dhellmann: what i really don't understand is that it's only oslo.rootwrap that gets installed from pypi | 20:48 |
| morganfainberg | oh | 20:48 |
| morganfainberg | derp. | 20:48 |
| marun | dhellmann: olso.messaging and oslo.config are always from source | 20:48 |
| ayoung | so token expiry + 30 minutes or summat | 20:48 |
| morganfainberg | hold on. | 20:48 |
| morganfainberg | you might not need to even worry about that | 20:48 |
| marun | dhellmann: ah, maybe it's the lack of a version being specified? | 20:48 |
| morganfainberg | let me check something real quick | 20:49 |
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| marun | dhellmann: if I execute the following in /opt/stack on a devstack host: find -name 'requirements.txt' | xargs grep -H oslo | 20:49 |
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| marun | dhellmann: it stands out that nova's use of oslo.rootwrap does not specify a version | 20:49 |
| dhellmann | marun: that should mean nova accepts whatever is already there | 20:50 |
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| dhellmann | marun: does anyone else specify a version? | 20:50 |
| marun | dhellmann: do you think that could be a coincidence, though? | 20:50 |
| marun | dhellmann: every other reference to an oslo dependency specifies a version | 20:50 |
| marun | dhellmann: nova does not specify a version for oslo.rootwrap, and it gets installed from pypi | 20:51 |
| dhellmann | marun: it's worth changing to see if it helps | 20:51 |
| marun | dhellmann: good vcall | 20:51 |
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| dhellmann | marun: so you see in your logs that when nova is being installed oslo.rootwrap is installed from pypi? | 20:51 |
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| marun | dhellmann: looking | 20:52 |
| markmc | dhellmann, fwiw, https://review.openstack.org/69801 and the patch below it is the only thing blocking nova's port to oslo.messaging now | 20:52 |
| marun | dhellmann: yes, nova is installing oslo.rootwrap from pypi according to the logs | 20:52 |
| marun | dhellmann: i'll turn off force prereq and see if that helps | 20:53 |
| marun | dhellmann: and then try to explicit version | 20:53 |
| marun | in the requirements | 20:53 |
| dhellmann | markmc: looking | 20:54 |
| markmc | dhellmann, thanks | 20:54 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, so i think you don't need to worry about expiring keys. we can add that magic in when i add the non-expiry key code | 20:54 |
| ayoung | morganfainberg, ++ | 20:54 |
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| morganfainberg | ayoung, it only really matters if someone specifically asks for a fixed expiry on all keys in memcache | 20:55 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, and right now, we don't have a way to pass that info to the backend | 20:55 |
| ayoung | morganfainberg, I can look at one of the other KVS impls and try to copy. Any one you suggest to emulate? | 20:55 |
| dhellmann | markmc: +2 x 2 | 20:55 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, token is the only one that exists at the moment | 20:55 |
| markmc | dhellmann, merci bien | 20:55 |
| ayoung | ++ | 20:55 |
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| morganfainberg | ayoung, related question, what do you think about making the kvs backend config line look like a uri | 20:56 |
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| ayoung | might be confusing. | 20:57 |
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| ayoung | morganfainberg, would it ever be remote? | 20:57 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, hrm | 20:57 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, i'm trying to figure out how to make it so i can pass the arbitrary backend information in | 20:57 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, for configuration | 20:57 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, something like: kvs://<backend>?opt=<value>?<opt2>=<value> | 20:58 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, or is the json config opt a better approach? | 20:58 |
| ayoung | so we have a named component which is a backend. Then, when you specify driver=...token.KVS you provide an additional config param kvs_backend= | 20:58 |
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| morganfainberg | ayoung, i wanted to avoid having to make kvs_backend param for each section we implement a kvs backend for | 20:59 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, but that might just be the best approach. | 20:59 |
| ayoung | nah, the driver is responsible for pulling the data out of , for example, the [token] section | 20:59 |
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| marun | dhellmann: pebcak :( | 21:00 |
| ayoung | so if there is a kvs param TIMEOUT that needs to be on a perbackend basis, it would be CONF.token.kvs_timeout | 21:00 |
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| ayoung | OTOH, there is a global config section for the kvs backend, it would be CONF.kvs.timeout | 21:01 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, but not all backends need that | 21:01 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, the issue is if you're using REDIS the options are different than memcache | 21:01 |
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| ayoung | and the issue is only there if two different drivers need REDIS with different options | 21:01 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, and it means someone has to explisicly register the oslo config option for <home grown dogpile backend> | 21:02 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, i was hoping to come up with some "generic-ish" way to pass options to dogpile | 21:02 |
| ayoung | morganfainberg, OK, so you do it in the config section for KVS, not under token | 21:02 |
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| ayoung | you create a named component, kindof like henrynash's code for the domain specific backends | 21:03 |
| dhellmann | marun: so it's working now? | 21:03 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, oh magic config options... bleh ok | 21:03 |
| ayoung | register a KVS backend, it gets a name | 21:03 |
| marun | dhellmann: i cache git repos locally so i can run devstack offline | 21:03 |
| ayoung | Nothing magic about it | 21:03 |
| marun | dhellmann: hadn't been caching oslo.rootwrap | 21:03 |
| ayoung | you create a named component, a namable instance of a know class. | 21:03 |
| dhellmann | marun: and devstack didn't check it out for you? | 21:03 |
| marun | dhellmann: i would have expected devstack to stop on this kind of failure :( | 21:04 |
| ayoung | then token.kvs will use that nam as its KVS instance | 21:04 |
| marun | dhellmann: I override the git root, so when devstack tried to check it out, the checkout failed | 21:04 |
| ayoung | Much bettter than the URL approach, as two different backends could use the same configuration if they wanted | 21:04 |
| marun | dhellmann: but devstack kept on running as if everything was fine | 21:04 |
| dhellmann | marun: ah, yeah, that should have brought everything to a halt | 21:04 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, oh, so token.backends.kvs would register a generic [kvs] token option? | 21:04 |
| ayoung | something like that | 21:05 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, and ...what format does that need to be then to pass arbitrary items to dogpile? | 21:05 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, json? | 21:05 |
| ayoung | no, they are done in the component configuration, not under [token] | 21:05 |
| marun | does anybody know anything about devstack not halting on failure to checkout a git repo? | 21:05 |
| ayoung | this is the whole IofC thing again. | 21:05 |
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| morganfainberg | ayoung, ok the issue is that redis, cassandra, mongo, memcache [pylibmc, bmemecached, py-memcache] all have drastically different arguments | 21:06 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, and those arguments are dogpile driver specific. | 21:06 |
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| ayoung | morganfainberg, yeah...now, if there were only one of each in a system, then you would just have a [redi] section and a [mongo]section | 21:06 |
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| ayoung | then [token] kvs = mongo | 21:07 |
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| ayoung | its only if you want to have two backends that talk to the same reddis but with different config options...or if you had two different redis servers for some reason. | 21:07 |
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| morganfainberg | so i need to know all options available to the types of backends and register those? | 21:07 |
| morganfainberg | or we can just not support generic dogpile backends. | 21:07 |
| morganfainberg | the issue is that i don't control the options. in the cache layer i used multi_str_opt, which afaict is bad | 21:08 |
| morganfainberg | people seem to hate that. | 21:08 |
| ayoung | Yuck...I don't havea good answer for you | 21:09 |
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| morganfainberg | i don't mind having the kvs backend register an option in a sane place when loaded. i don't want to have to define 20+ different options. | 21:09 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, yeah | 21:10 |
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| morganfainberg | ayoung, i rand down all the same paths you recommended and came to ... ick solution | 21:10 |
| ayoung | can't you just read all of the set options from the [redis] section without predefining themn? | 21:10 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, nope, you need to tell oslo the option exists | 21:10 |
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| ayoung | that is an oslo config weakness....worth addressing at that level | 21:11 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, i think they do that to enforce type-safety | 21:11 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, or the option-types that is. | 21:11 |
| ayoung | do it in an external config file, then, that doesn't use oslo | 21:11 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, from what i can tell you can have data there and register an opt on the fly and then extract data | 21:12 |
| ayoung | or see if there is a way to be able to turn it off when proceesing the file | 21:12 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, it's what we do with the auth pliugin stuff | 21:12 |
| morganfainberg | dhellmann, ping | 21:12 |
| dhellmann | morganfainberg, ayoung : can you summarize what you're trying to do? | 21:12 |
| dhellmann | heh | 21:12 |
| ayoung | dhellmann, gather up config file values to pass on to backends | 21:13 |
| morganfainberg | dhellmann, so dogpile.cache has a flexible backend, each backend looks for it's own options | 21:13 |
| ayoung | redis, cassandra, maybe even for SQL, | 21:13 |
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| morganfainberg | dhellmann, the options are looked up via a dict {prefx.backend.argument.<arg name> : arg value} | 21:13 |
| dhellmann | and you don't want to just pass the CONF object to the backend? | 21:13 |
| dhellmann | (that's a legit thing to not want to do, I'm just making sure I understand) | 21:14 |
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| morganfainberg | dhellmann, i don't control the arguments directly, that is if we want to support the generic dogpile backends | 21:14 |
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| dhellmann | if you have a CONF object, you can give it to the backend and the backend can register its options just before it tries to use them | 21:14 |
| morganfainberg | dhellmann, the backend isn't OpenStack code | 21:15 |
| morganfainberg | dhellmann, it's dogpile code | 21:15 |
| dhellmann | ah | 21:15 |
| dhellmann | didn't know what dogpile was | 21:15 |
| morganfainberg | dhellmann, caching/kvs library | 21:15 |
| dhellmann | ok, you have a thing that takes options and you don't know what those are? | 21:15 |
| morganfainberg | key-value-store = kvs | 21:15 |
| dhellmann | are the option definitions discoverable from the backend? | 21:15 |
| morganfainberg | dhellmann, unless you look at the docs, no | 21:15 |
| dhellmann | that's not especially helpful | 21:16 |
| morganfainberg | dhellmann, the backend pulls the arguments it wants out of a config dict, and looks for the "arguments" in a known format | 21:16 |
| dhellmann | so I can think of a couple of approaches | 21:16 |
| morganfainberg | dhellmann, e.g. cache.memcache.argument.memcache_timeout | 21:16 |
| morganfainberg | that would be the dict key for the memcache backend. | 21:16 |
| morganfainberg | and the option memcache_timeout | 21:16 |
| dhellmann | 1. write a shim layer that knows what all of those options are, based on the backend, and registers the options, extracts the values from cfg.CONF, and gives you the dictionary to pass to the backend | 21:17 |
| dhellmann | that's a lot of work | 21:17 |
| dhellmann | 2. register one option for the backend configuration file, parse that using something like ConfigParser or ConfigObj and don't do anything fancier with the results | 21:18 |
| dhellmann | that doesn't help the deployer understand what options they can use | 21:18 |
| dhellmann | 3. contribute something to dogpile that lets the backend declare their options somehow (not directly using oslo.config, but in a format that could be used to make oslo.config calls) | 21:18 |
| dhellmann | also a lot of work | 21:18 |
| morganfainberg | dhellmann, no it doesn't. for the "regularly" used and OpenStack supported backends we can be more specific. and i do define those, but part of the reason to use dogpile was that anyone can easily make a backend | 21:19 |
| morganfainberg | dhellmann, (that was in response to 2, the "no it doesn't") | 21:19 |
| dhellmann | ok, so is what you're saying like option 1? | 21:19 |
| dhellmann | because that may be the least bad | 21:19 |
| dhellmann | as far as ux goes anyway | 21:19 |
| dolphm | morganfainberg: realistically, are we going to have people writing their custom backends? | 21:20 |
| dhellmann | dolphm: good point | 21:20 |
| morganfainberg | dhellmann, i was thinking that option 4) add a json opt to oslo config that lets people do a whole dogpile config dict natively, and then option 1) for everything we directly support | 21:20 |
| morganfainberg | dolphm, HP i think is already doing it with Mongo. | 21:20 |
| dhellmann | could you define some sort of data file format that could be used to declare the options? | 21:20 |
| dolphm | morganfainberg: how are they configuring the driver today? | 21:20 |
| dolphm | "backend" | 21:21 |
| morganfainberg | dolphm, no idea, haven't gotten that out of them. probably statically | 21:21 |
| dolphm | if you haven't gotten it out of them, then it's probably hard coded :P | 21:21 |
| morganfainberg | dolphm, yeah | 21:21 |
| dhellmann | morganfainberg: I've already -2 arbitrary json options to oslo.config in the past -- just use a separate file | 21:21 |
| morganfainberg | dhellmann, out of curiosity why do we have the dict opt? it seems very naive and trying to accomplish what a json opt would do. | 21:22 |
| dhellmann | but if you provide a data file that declares new oslo config options, then integrating with another backend would just mean writing one of those files and putting it into the right place | 21:22 |
| dolphm | dhellmann: so, the oslo config option would be to an absolute path to a .json file? | 21:22 |
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| dhellmann | morganfainberg: I don't like the dict option either, but that went in when I wasn't looking | 21:22 |
| dolphm | morganfainberg: ++ | 21:22 |
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| morganfainberg | dhellmann, ok, fair enough :) | 21:22 |
| dolphm | dhellmann: what's using it? | 21:22 |
| dhellmann | dolphm: yes | 21:22 |
| dhellmann | dolphm: I'm not sure | 21:23 |
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| morganfainberg | dhellmann, whatever we determine is the "right" way here is what i'm going to be proposing for olso.cache instead of building a custom kvs/cache system that misses some things we get for free w/ dogpile (a lot of things actually) | 21:23 |
| dolphm | dhellmann: i'm very tempted to propose a try: json.loads(dict_opt_value); except: naive_code() :-/ | 21:23 |
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| morganfainberg | dolphm, i think you'd need to muck with the format since it is currently <key>:<value>, ... | 21:24 |
| morganfainberg | dolphm, no {} or "" around things | 21:24 |
| morganfainberg | and does a stright split on , and then split on : | 21:25 |
| morganfainberg | it's icky :( | 21:25 |
| dolphm | morganfainberg: that's where the except block would come in ^ | 21:25 |
| morganfainberg | dhellmann, and people don't like multistr opt, right? | 21:25 |
| dolphm | naive_code == entire current (deprecated) implementation | 21:25 |
| dhellmann | multistropt is fine | 21:25 |
| morganfainberg | dhellmann, well that actually... i can make work. | 21:25 |
| dhellmann | sometimes the answer to a configuration question really is a list of things | 21:25 |
| morganfainberg | dhellmann, i heard somewhere someone disliked that a lot | 21:25 |
| dhellmann | morganfainberg: I haven't heard that | 21:26 |
| dolphm | is that the multi-line one? | 21:26 |
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| morganfainberg | dolphm, yeah | 21:26 |
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| morganfainberg | dhellmann, something about chef and puppet and other CMSs choking on it | 21:26 |
| dolphm | i think there's a mailing list thread complaining about it's use vs puppet | 21:26 |
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| dhellmann | morganfainberg: ah, yeah, we fixed that by making it possible to list the same option more than once and have it interpreted as a list if it is a multistropt | 21:27 |
| dolphm | http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2013-August/014401.html | 21:27 |
| dhellmann | so they don't like the form: foo = blah, bletch, whatever but having foo = blah and foo = bletch and foo = whatever is ok | 21:27 |
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| morganfainberg | dhellmann, i read it as being the opposite | 21:28 |
| morganfainberg | dhellmann, ^ what dolph linked | 21:28 |
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| dhellmann | morganfainberg: maybe I missed that thread | 21:28 |
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| dhellmann | ah | 21:29 |
| dhellmann | yeah, I didn't remember that | 21:29 |
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| morganfainberg | dhellmann, i already use multistr opt for the keystone cache stuff. it works well when you're not using the pre-built "i know these options so i can make smart decisions" backends | 21:29 |
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| dhellmann | if that works, good | 21:30 |
| dhellmann | a separate file (json, yaml, whatever) also makes sense | 21:30 |
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| dhellmann | nesting complexity inside the ini file feels awkward | 21:31 |
| morganfainberg | dhellmann, yeah. so these are all viable from your point of view: multistr_opt, separate file option (load json), or for "known" values/opts just outright be smart about registering them | 21:31 |
| dolphm | dhellmann: i don't disagree | 21:31 |
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| dhellmann | morganfainberg: yeah, all of those seem like reasonable approaches | 21:32 |
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| morganfainberg | dhellmann, any issues with programatically registered options? | 21:32 |
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| dolphm | morganfainberg: why not just go with the separate json file-only approach (ignore backends we think we know) | 21:32 |
| morganfainberg | e.g. i want a KVS called "foo" so it registers the [kvs] foo_<opt> ? | 21:32 |
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| dhellmann | you just have to be careful that you register the option definition the same way each time -- same help, description, type, etc. | 21:32 |
| morganfainberg | when i request "foo" | 21:32 |
| dolphm | morganfainberg: difficult for docs | 21:33 |
| dhellmann | if you have them all the same, you can register the same option as often as you want | 21:33 |
| dolphm | dhellmann: no more "this option already exists" exceptions? | 21:33 |
| dhellmann | well, if you have a kvs backend foo maybe you want a group "kvs_foo" and then that has options in it | 21:33 |
| morganfainberg | dolphm, if the option is defined the same way, no it doesn't error | 21:33 |
| dhellmann | dolphm: only if the option definitions don't match exactly | 21:33 |
| morganfainberg | dhellmann, can i make a dynamic group as well? | 21:33 |
| morganfainberg | dhellmann, never tried. i know dynamic options work we use them in keystone | 21:34 |
| dolphm | dhellmann: cool! | 21:34 |
| dhellmann | morganfainberg: sure, you can register the new options in a group | 21:34 |
| dhellmann | at least I hope you can -- if not that's a bug :-) | 21:34 |
| morganfainberg | dhellmann, and it would work the same, e.g. if the files have already been loaded the options/groups just become available? | 21:34 |
| morganfainberg | dhellmann, or in theory | 21:34 |
| dhellmann | morganfainberg: right | 21:35 |
| morganfainberg | dhellmann, See, there we go. that is i think what i've been looking for (as much as I hate dynamic options for doc reasons) | 21:35 |
| morganfainberg | i think i can be smart to not make them too complex | 21:36 |
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| morganfainberg | dolphm, for our purposes in keystone this will be pretty easy to ensure its documented similar to our cache documentation. i also expect most options will be defined in a "sane" way based upon our supported backends | 21:37 |
| morganfainberg | dolphm, i expect the custom backends to be few and far between, but if we use a simple mechanism to let people pass options, i think it's a win. as long as it isn't too complex | 21:37 |
| morganfainberg | dhellmann, thanks!! | 21:38 |
| dhellmann | morganfainberg: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/oslo/+spec/improve-config-discovery-for-docs | 21:38 |
| dhellmann | that should solve the discovery for documentation issue | 21:38 |
| dhellmann | there are a couple of reviews up still to get the config generator working, but the basics are there | 21:38 |
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| dhellmann | and oslo.messaging has an example function with the options declared in the right format | 21:38 |
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| morganfainberg | dhellmann, i'll look that over | 21:39 |
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| stevemar | bknudson, another patch comin for ya soon | 21:55 |
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| bknudson | dolphm: I had a comment on stevemar's patch -- about the format of the rule format string. | 21:56 |
| bknudson | dolphm: seems like it would be easier to use a format that python already supports. | 21:57 |
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| stevemar | bknudson, that change will affect a few things, unfortunately, but its better sooner rather than later i suppose | 22:00 |
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| topol | dolphm, you around? | 22:06 |
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| morganfainberg | stevemar, anything you need an extra set of eyes on before i hop in an start coding again? | 22:18 |
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| zzelle | mordred, ping | 22:28 |
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| morganfainberg | flaper87, Ok i think i have a decent approach to work from after talking w/ dhellmann about config options. I think I can propose a decent implementation using dogpile pretty easily. The only question becomes if it makes sense to do this as an oslo.incubator or as an oslo libarary, since the code really will be isolated | 22:28 |
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| morganfainberg | flaper87, and if we do it as a library it doesn't suffer from the same issues as incubator does for promotion. actually strike that, incubator is likely better since we will need to change things to meet needs early on | 22:29 |
| morganfainberg | flaper87, i'll hit you up tomorrow once i'm through some of the keystone work i need to hit for the Feb deadlines | 22:30 |
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| morganfainberg | flaper87, and discuss my thoughts | 22:31 |
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| marun | dansmith: ping | 22:34 |
| dansmith | marun: hey, but I'm about to run out to an appointment in a few | 22:34 |
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| marun | dansmith: ah, fair enough. | 22:35 |
| marun | dansmith: could you point me to someone who knows about configdrive/cloud-init/file injection before you go if you have time? | 22:35 |
| dansmith | marun: I think mikal | 22:35 |
| marun | mikal: ping | 22:36 |
| marun | dansmith: thank you! | 22:36 |
| dansmith | marun: but asking in #openstack-nova would be a higher likelihood of hitting someone who knows | 22:36 |
| morganfainberg | bknudson, CONF.reset() needs to be issued before you can unregister arguments | 22:36 |
| bauzas | dhellmann: I'm about to move our Climate API to Pecan/WSME | 22:36 |
| bknudson | morganfainberg: ok, add a comment | 22:36 |
| bknudson | is that documented somewhere? | 22:36 |
| morganfainberg | bknudson, comment in code? or just to review | 22:36 |
| bauzas | dhellmann: do you know if there is any plan to include some parts in Oslo ? | 22:36 |
| bknudson | morganfainberg: in the code. | 22:36 |
| morganfainberg | bknudson, will do so now. | 22:37 |
| bauzas | dhellmann: and do you have other pointers than Ceilometer for seeing the port ? | 22:37 |
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| morganfainberg | bknudson, done. | 22:39 |
| morganfainberg | bknudson, also added similar comment in the auth_plugin test for the dependant review | 22:40 |
| bknudson | morganfainberg: thanks | 22:40 |
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| bknudson | morganfainberg: I guess another option is to move the addCleanup before the super() call? | 22:42 |
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| bknudson | morganfainberg: that would require moving the test functions into their own class. | 22:43 |
| morganfainberg | bknudson, hm. that would also work. i expect that to get cleaned up further once i get past these three reviews in the chain. | 22:43 |
| morganfainberg | bknudson, oh yeah. | 22:43 |
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| morganfainberg | bknudson, i think i want to hold off on that restructuring until i get the load_backends issue cleaned up, if it isn't a huge deal. | 22:44 |
| bknudson | morganfainberg: it's not a huge deal | 22:44 |
| morganfainberg | bknudson, cool. i'll make sure to add that to my note list of things to get cleaned up in the parallel-testing chain | 22:44 |
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| dstanek | lbragstad: nice catch on that last review | 22:48 |
| bknudson | morganfainberg: I think there's a conf fixture -- http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/oslo-incubator/tree/openstack/common/fixture/config.py#n23 | 22:49 |
| lbragstad | dstanek: which one? the six.moves? | 22:49 |
| dstanek | lbragstad: yes | 22:49 |
| lbragstad | dstanek: :) np | 22:49 |
| morganfainberg | bknudson, we should move all opt_in_group settings to that | 22:50 |
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| dstanek | lbragstad: i actually don't like the moves. stuff at all | 22:50 |
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| lbragstad | dstanek: why is that? | 22:50 |
| bknudson | morganfainberg: looks like it doesn't support adding new conf options. | 22:50 |
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| bknudson | morganfainberg: could probably add it easy enough | 22:50 |
| morganfainberg | bknudson, huh, correct. | 22:50 |
| morganfainberg | bknudson, true | 22:50 |
| dstanek | lbragstad: because eventually we'll have to rewrite the code. i'd prefer we wrote it like Py3 and used six to make it work in Py2 | 22:51 |
| lbragstad | dstanek: ah, good point | 22:51 |
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| dstanek | lbragstad: for example, http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/oslo-incubator/commit/?id=e4b23346909b836f3ea04d844a5ddc744da84879 | 22:52 |
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| dstanek | lbragstad: you remove the two 'six.moves.' strings from the import section and that's how you'd write the Py3 code | 22:52 |
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| morganfainberg | bknudson, dstanek, do we want to support any config file overrides (except for say some very very specific things in live tests) in our tests? if we don't want to, i can nuke https://review.openstack.org/#/c/69077 | 22:52 |
| dstanek | or how i'd wrie it anyway - i like my names better | 22:53 |
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| morganfainberg | bknudson, if we are cool with always needing a code change to get different opts in tests (like i said, excluding some specific live-test options) | 22:53 |
| lbragstad | dstanek: makes sense | 22:53 |
| * lbragstad bookmarks for reference | 22:54 | |
| dstanek | morganfainberg: i really wish we didn't have to much with configs at all for tests - i think that's a code smell | 22:54 |
| dstanek | s/much/muck/ | 22:54 |
| morganfainberg | dstanek, the question is do we want a single config file (except where we are actually testing config file things) to override the test fixtures or not at all? | 22:54 |
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| morganfainberg | dstanek, i'm thinking i should abandon that change and make it so we don't use config files at all. | 22:55 |
| morganfainberg | dstanek, excluding the live tests since... those are special | 22:55 |
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| dstanek | morganfainberg: i wouldn't mind starting to change classes to expect settings in their __init__ if that's what you mean | 22:56 |
| bknudson | morganfainberg: I don't see any reason for any of the test config files. | 22:57 |
| markwash | russellb: is it too late for me to register for the nova meetup? | 22:57 |
| russellb | markwash: nope | 22:57 |
| morganfainberg | bknudson, sounds good. will abandon that change and just special case the items for live-tests | 22:58 |
| morganfainberg | dstanek, ^ | 22:58 |
| bknudson | morganfainberg: except for the live test one is useful, I guess. | 22:58 |
| dstanek | stevemar: i wish there was a better way to do the string substitutions in the rule processing patch | 22:59 |
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| dstanek | stevemar: i don't like how we turn the dict into a string, do the subs and return a dict | 23:00 |
| bknudson | dstanek: http://docs.python.org/2/library/string.html#string.Formatter | 23:00 |
| dstanek | stevemar: seems like there may be room for error | 23:00 |
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| lbragstad | dolphm: do you know if there is a link for latest copyright guidelines? | 23:00 |
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| bknudson | lbragstad: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Documentation/Copyright | 23:01 |
| lbragstad | http://docs.openstack.org/developer/swift/development_guidelines.html#license-and-copyright | 23:01 |
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| dstanek | bknudson: i've not used that, but at the hackathon i suggested string.Template which does the $pattern substitution, but not numeric without some trickery | 23:01 |
| morganfainberg | lbragstad, https://github.com/openstack-dev/cookiecutter/blob/master/%7B%7Bcookiecutter.repo_name%7D%7D/%7B%7Bcookiecutter.module_name%7D%7D/__init__.py is what i use now | 23:02 |
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| morganfainberg | lbragstad, unless your org requires a company copyright, like mine does, so.. i just add it where appropriate | 23:02 |
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| lbragstad | morganfainberg: gotcha, that makes sense. I was curious from the follow up here; https://review.openstack.org/#/c/58311/5/keystone/tests/fixtures/__init__.py | 23:03 |
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| morganfainberg | lbragstad, sure thing! | 23:11 |
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| stevemar | dstanek, i wish there was an easier way too :) | 23:15 |
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| morganfainberg | dstanek, which patch? | 23:17 |
| morganfainberg | dstanek, stevemar, dict -> string -> dict? euuuwww :P | 23:17 |
| stevemar | morganfainberg, yeah, that part | 23:17 |
| morganfainberg | stevemar, which patchset? | 23:18 |
| dstanek | stevemar: what about looping throuph the locals and doing a substition for each one? | 23:18 |
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| stevemar | morganfainberg, when i posted patch1, i made a comment saying "ahhh! help me figure out another way" | 23:18 |
| morganfainberg | stevemar, ... which review? | 23:18 |
| morganfainberg | stevemar, remember i've been unconcious for... ~6 days :P | 23:18 |
| stevemar | morganfainberg, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/67645/ confused about the question, which patch set? | 23:19 |
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| morganfainberg | stevemar, yeah np | 23:19 |
| lbragstad | stevemar: quick question, | 23:19 |
| stevemar | lbragstad, shoot | 23:19 |
| lbragstad | why have a class defined inside a class here? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/67645/8/keystone/contrib/federation/utils.py | 23:19 |
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| lbragstad | why not stick to using class variables for ANY_ONE_OF = 'any_one_of' | 23:20 |
| stevemar | lbragstad, first comment of patch set 7 | 23:20 |
| stevemar | lbragstad, "This isn't used outside of AssertionProcessor, so suggest move it in there. Also, prefix with _ since it's not public." | 23:20 |
| stevemar | by you know who :) | 23:20 |
| morganfainberg | stevemar, is the dict always one-level deep? | 23:21 |
| morganfainberg | stevemar, or unknown | 23:21 |
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| stevemar | unknown | 23:21 |
| stevemar | morganfainberg, ^ we could enforce it, but i'm not sure we want to do that yet | 23:22 |
| lbragstad | stevemar: ah ok, makes sense | 23:22 |
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| stevemar | morganfainberg, iirc ayoung had mentioned that some entities could be nested | 23:22 |
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| morganfainberg | dstanek, i think this is way easier than multi-looping and replacement, since this does the replace globally in one shot per element vs loop through each one for each element | 23:22 |
| morganfainberg | stevemar, ^ | 23:22 |
| morganfainberg | doesn't mean i like it :P | 23:23 |
| stevemar | buahahaha, so many eyes on my patch set now | 23:23 |
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| stevemar | morganfainberg, it is guaranteed to be json, so it's got that going for it | 23:23 |
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| morganfainberg | stevemar, though, out of curiosity, does .replace work better/faster than re module? | 23:24 |
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| morganfainberg | stevemar, or does .replace just leverage re behind the scenes | 23:24 |
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| stevemar | morganfainberg, http://stackoverflow.com/questions/5668947/python-string-replace-vs-re-sub | 23:25 |
| stevemar | replace ++ | 23:25 |
| morganfainberg | stevemar, thats fair enough for me | 23:25 |
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| dolphm | morganfainberg: replace better all the ways | 23:38 |
| morganfainberg | dolphm, :) | 23:38 |
| morganfainberg | dolphm, and as much as dict->json.replace->dict is ugly i think it's likely a passable solution to the problem | 23:39 |
| morganfainberg | stevemar, +2 FILGTM ? ;) | 23:40 |
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| stevemar | morganfainberg, woo hoo | 23:40 |
| morganfainberg | stevemar, actually i haven't read all of it yet...soooo | 23:40 |
| stevemar | morganfainberg, yay for passable | 23:40 |
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| stevemar | lbragstad, thanks dude | 23:43 |
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| dencaval | Guys, I'm have a few doubts about tempest framework | 23:55 |
| dencaval | Can I add more tests to the existing types? For instance, can I create a new test to the stress tests? | 23:55 |
| dencaval | Should the test follow some "interface" to be recognized by the tempest framework? | 23:55 |
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