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| stevemar | bknudson, by that logic you will never rest until everything is done :P | 01:37 |
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| bknudson | stevemar: it is a never-ending battle. | 01:38 |
| bknudson | stevemar: now I'm not getting any endpoints when using the templated catalog. | 01:39 |
| stevemar | bknudson, referring to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/54636/ ? | 01:39 |
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| bknudson | stevemar: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/54636/ is pretty useless when templated doesn't work anyways. | 01:40 |
| stevemar | bknudson, oh btw, i figured out what was going on w/ my devstack funny business - if you're interested | 01:42 |
| bknudson | stevemar: openstack CLI didn't work? | 01:42 |
| bknudson | did you submit the change to devstack? | 01:42 |
| stevemar | bknudson, turns out OSC needs token and url env vars, but has them defined differently | 01:43 |
| stevemar | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/69107/4/stack.sh | 01:43 |
| stevemar | yep | 01:43 |
| bknudson | stevemar: that is awesome. | 01:43 |
| stevemar | bknudson, it was working for dtroyer, cause he had the env vars defined when he was running devstack locally | 01:43 |
| bknudson | stevemar: jenkins -1d | 01:44 |
| stevemar | bknudson, can't seem to figure out why jenkins is complaining though =\ | 01:44 |
| stevemar | bknudson, theres an error log, http://logs.openstack.org/07/69107/4/check/check-tempest-dsvm-neutron/34de6dc/logs/error.txt.gz but turns out that was already a bug in launchpad that was duped to another | 01:45 |
| stevemar | it's the same error for all neutron related tests | 01:45 |
| bknudson | that log is short and to the point. | 01:45 |
| stevemar | but reference: https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-ci/+bug/1265904 | 01:46 |
| stevemar | bug* | 01:46 |
| bknudson | stevemar: the fix for that bug merged already. | 01:47 |
| bknudson | stevemar: whoops, the one to revert merged. | 01:47 |
| bknudson | and so did the supposed fix. | 01:48 |
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| stevemar | bknudson, i dunno, kinda stumped on that one | 01:51 |
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| kashyap | Heya, quick question - devstack defaults to Nova networking, is it? | 05:18 |
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| cleverfoo | folks can someone point me in the direction of any doc on how to use hashed keystone tokens? | 05:34 |
| cleverfoo | currently it appears that hashed keystone tokens and unicorn tears are one of the same | 05:35 |
| clarkb | kashyap: yes | 05:38 |
| kashyap | clarkb, Thanks. I dwell in Neutron networking (Open Source plugins only), so trying to tweak my configs to that effect. | 05:38 |
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| clarkb | kashyap: have you seen the localrc used int he gate to test neutron? | 05:42 |
| kashyap | clarkb, Ah, right, I always forget. My internet is a bit slow, look up takes a bit time, got URL handy? | 05:43 |
| clarkb | kashyap: http://logs.openstack.org/36/68036/7/check/check-tempest-dsvm-neutron/8bf16c8/logs/localrc.txt.gz you will need to remove some of those options, ERROR_ON_CLONE, OS_NO_CACHE, and CINDER_SECURE_DELETE. possibly VOLUME_BACKING_SIZE | 05:44 |
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| kashyap | clarkb, Thank you, will keep that in mind. I'm also setting this up on Fedora as I'm trying to investigate a couple of Gate issues. | 05:47 |
| clarkb | we don't use fedora in the gate... | 05:48 |
| kashyap | Yes, I'm aware. | 05:48 |
| kashyap | Trying to work w/ some folks to get it going. | 05:49 |
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| clarkb | kashyap: the first thing that needs to be done to get it going is nodepool needs to be taught to spin up fedora nodes | 05:49 |
| kashyap | For instance, this Gate blocking bug seems to hit w/ libvirt 0.9.8 (which is ancient) -- https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1254872 | 05:50 |
| kashyap | (Given the support matrix - https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/LibvirtDistroSupportMatrix) | 05:50 |
| clarkb | kashyap: not sure how fedora helps that. we can run with much newer libvirt via cloud archive. However it doesn't work | 05:50 |
| kashyap | clarkb, I see, I'm not familiar w/ the infra side of things, still learning and listening | 05:50 |
| clarkb | 0.9.8 actually works | 05:50 |
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| kashyap | clarkb, Not saying Fedora will help (poor wording). Just that /I/ have several Fedora setups, and most of KVM/QEMU/libvirt/libguestfs core development happens on Fedora | 05:51 |
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| kashyap | Sure, however, *if* a (critical) bug in 0.9.8 is fixed (haven't check) in a newer version (that's /in/ the support matrix), it's not a bug, and needlessly blocking Gate. But, I know it's as simple as I said. | 05:53 |
| clarkb | kashyap: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1228977 needs to be fixed before we can use newer libvirt. Daniel Berrange is workign on that fix | 05:53 |
| clarkb | it is a bug | 05:53 |
| clarkb | see ^ | 05:53 |
| clarkb | and the failure rate becomes 100% | 05:54 |
| kashyap | Noted. Sean Dague pointed it elsewhere a couple of days ago. | 05:54 |
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| clarkb | (note we very much want newer libvirt so that we can install python bindings from pypi with pip and remove site-packages from nova virtualenvs) | 05:57 |
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| kashyap | Yeah, I remember danpb worked to make the libvirt bindings available on pypi infra to this effect. | 05:59 |
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| kashyap | (Re-reading scroll, correcting a small typo :-) -- s/it's as simple/it's not as simple) | 06:09 |
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| mflobo | Someone knows what is the state of multidomain system on keystone? | 10:54 |
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| mflobo | I found this blueprint https://blueprints.launchpad.net/keystone/+spec/keystone-domains but i'm not sure if someone is working on it | 10:54 |
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| tiamar | mflobo: I think it is implemented already, it is the Keystone V3. | 10:59 |
| mflobo | tiamar, In SQL, i guess | 11:00 |
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| mflobo | tiamar, there are some news in LDAP implementation? | 11:01 |
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| tiamar | mflobo: I think there is no necessity of LDAP for domains, it is different from user auth. But there is a LDAP backend and it works | 11:03 |
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| tiamar | mflobo: I don't know your necessity, but maybe you should also check the Keystone Federation. | 11:03 |
| mflobo | I know about keystone federation, but i think I need some different | 11:04 |
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| mflobo | tiamar, I need the idea of multi-domain on LDAP backend | 11:05 |
| mflobo | as same as SQL backend | 11:05 |
| tiamar | mflobo https://blueprints.launchpad.net/keystone/+spec/ldap-multiple-domain-support-havana this? | 11:06 |
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| florentflament | mflobo, I have tested keystone with multidomain there : http://www.florentflament.com/blog/setting-keystone-v3-domains.html | 11:06 |
| florentflament | mflobo, It works well, although I tested it with a mysql backend | 11:07 |
| mflobo | tiamar, yes this is the blueprint that i was looking for | 11:07 |
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| mflobo | tiamar, ok, thank your for your test reference | 11:08 |
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| mflobo | tiamar, I don't know why i didn't find that blueprint in my search https://blueprints.launchpad.net/keystone?searchtext=domain | 11:08 |
| mflobo | florentflament, thank your for your test reference | 11:09 |
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| tiamar | mflobo: I always use google :) | 11:10 |
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| mflobo | tiamar,this blueprint https://blueprints.launchpad.net/keystone/+spec/ldap-multiple-domain-support-havan status is "completed" but it doesn't show in which release it was merged | 11:12 |
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| mflobo | tiamar, ok, whatever | 11:13 |
| tiamar | mflobo, I think it has not been implemented. | 11:13 |
| mflobo | tiamar, mmmm interestin | 11:13 |
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| mflobo | florentflament, Is your test configured to LDAP or SQL? | 11:17 |
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| florentflament | mflobo, I was using an sql backend (default devstack setup) | 11:19 |
| mflobo | florentflament, ok, I need to configure it agaist LDAP. Thank you anyway. | 11:20 |
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| rohitk | hi, why is a consumer created once for each fanout=False and fanout=True in service.py ? | 11:48 |
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| Ajaeger | markmc, could you review these help text patches https://review.openstack.org/#/c/67654/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/67646/, please? This is text that shows up in the manuals and we'd like to have them somehow consistent and nice - and thus need consistent help strings | 11:58 |
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| markmc | Ajaeger, cool, will do | 12:03 |
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| Ajaeger | Thanks, markmc! | 12:03 |
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| dims | jd__, ah right i forgot | 13:57 |
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| sdague | dhellmann, dims: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/69221/ | 14:01 |
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| sdague | part of my cleanups, wanted to get that into oslo so I can sync it back to nova | 14:01 |
| dhellmann | sdague: +2 | 14:03 |
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| dhellmann | sdague: although, is there a bp for that work? | 14:03 |
| sdague | I have a nova one, cross project blueprints don't really work though | 14:03 |
| dhellmann | sdague: yeah | 14:04 |
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| sdague | yep | 14:04 |
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| jd__ | approved | 14:05 |
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| ihrachys | does anyone know any existing cases of project migration from obsolete oslo-rpc (from incubator) to oslo.messaging? I would like to check the code to see the general scope to do migration. | 14:37 |
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| dhellmann | ihrachys: markmc has a WIP patch for nova | 14:38 |
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| ihrachys | dhellmann: I can't find it on gerrit. Any link? markmc? | 14:41 |
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| markmc | ihrachys, hey, see https://review.openstack.org/39929 | 14:41 |
| ihrachys | markmc: tnx! | 14:41 |
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| Ajaeger | I've done a couple of changes to improve the consistency of the cfg help strings in the various projects, e.g. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/67647/. dhellmann just suggested to me to write a "Style Guide". I've done a first draft at http://paste.openstack.org/show/61938/ and like to get feedback on it. | 14:49 |
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| Ajaeger | Should I just create a new wiki page for this - any pages that should link to it? | 14:51 |
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| markmc | Ajaeger, nice; could go into http://docs.openstack.org/developer/oslo.config/ perhaps? | 14:55 |
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| maurosr | anyone with some time for a review in oslo-incubator? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/66360/ tks in advance | 14:55 |
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| Ajaeger | markmc: Shall I add a complete new file for this? | 14:57 |
| ihrachys | dhellmann: btw could you please explain whether we're not going to fix anything not-urgent in oslo-incubator in all branches, or stable branches are still open for bug fixing? | 14:57 |
| markmc | Ajaeger, sure, that sounds best | 14:57 |
| ihrachys | oslo-incubator/oslo-incubator rpc implementation/ | 14:58 |
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| markmc | ihrachys, we don't tend to use the stable branches on oslo-incubator all that much, but we should probably do it more often | 14:58 |
| markmc | ihrachys, I'd say anything which is in scope under the stable branch policy should/could to into oslo-incubator stable branch and be synced across | 14:59 |
| markmc | ihrachys, http://wiki.openstack.org/StableBranch | 14:59 |
| markmc | ihrachys, and that would apply to the rpc code | 14:59 |
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| markmc | ihrachys, except it would be a little unusual there after we delete the code from oslo-incubator | 14:59 |
| markmc | ihrachys, but the stable branch does accept fixes for code which has since gone away on master | 15:00 |
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| ihrachys | markmc: still there are bugs in stable releases worth being fixed, even though in master we want everything to go to oslo.messaging only | 15:00 |
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| markmc | ihrachys, yes, absolutely | 15:01 |
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| markmc | ihrachys, the stable branch is a "safe source of high impact fixes" | 15:02 |
| markmc | ihrachys, it's the same policy for oslo-incubator stable branch as any other project stable branch | 15:02 |
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| markmc | ihrachys, the rpc vs. oslo.messaging status doesn't really affect anything | 15:02 |
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| markmc | ihrachys, and while rpc is still in oslo-incubator master, fixes should go there too | 15:02 |
| ihrachys | markmc: well, I had a fix for oslo-incubator rpc part in master, but dhellmann said that it should go to oslo.messaging only | 15:03 |
| dhellmann | markmc: I've been rejecting patches to the incubator version of rpc for non-critical fixes | 15:03 |
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| markmc | dhellmann, hmm, that code could be with us for a while yet | 15:03 |
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| markmc | dhellmann, given how long the nova port is taking to land | 15:04 |
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| ihrachys | markmc: it IS with us, copy-pasted to project trees :) | 15:04 |
| dhellmann | security fixes are fine, as are critical implementation flaws | 15:04 |
| dhellmann | we don't really have the reviewer bandwidth to maintain 2 copies of that code for a long time | 15:05 |
| ihrachys | and I guess at least some projects are not planning migration in the near future, f.e. I haven't found such blueprint for neutron [and created it myself], so I guess such move is not scheduled for the next release of the project. There should be other projects with the same attitude. | 15:05 |
| markmc | dhellmann, it's probably actually easier if we keep the copies more closely in sync | 15:05 |
| dhellmann | everyone is waiting for the first project to adopt it "to see how hard" the port is | 15:05 |
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| markmc | dhellmann, but yeah - I'd be happy not to accept new features in oslo-incubator rpc | 15:06 |
| markmc | dhellmann, so depends on what exactly you mean by "critical" | 15:07 |
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| dhellmann | I think so far everything I've rejected has felt a little featury | 15:07 |
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| dhellmann | featurey? | 15:07 |
| dhellmann | anyway | 15:07 |
| markmc | dhellmann, if we're still going to have this code in icehouse, then e.g. typo fixes in cfg help strings would be fine | 15:07 |
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| dhellmann | yeah, doc stuff would be ok, but I don't think that's what these changes were | 15:08 |
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| dhellmann | ah, well, I guess at least one was | 15:08 |
| dhellmann | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/68164/1/openstack/common/rpc/impl_qpid.py | 15:08 |
| dhellmann | sigh | 15:09 |
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| Ajaeger | dhellmann, markmc https://review.openstack.org/69381 contains the Style Guide | 15:09 |
| ihrachys | dhellmann: if that counts, there's also another one for rabbitmq with the same change: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/68165/ :) | 15:09 |
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| markmc | Ajaeger, nicely done, thanks | 15:10 |
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| dhellmann | ihrachys: yeah | 15:10 |
| Ajaeger | markmc: I've added Diane and Anne as style experts for review ;) | 15:10 |
| dhellmann | Ajaeger: cool, thanks! | 15:11 |
| ihrachys | dhellmann: but these are tiny and just side effect of other, featurey patches :) | 15:11 |
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| ihrachys | markmc: on stable branch policy, quoting the policy: 'Whether the fix is already on master - a change must be a backport of a change already merged onto master, unless the change simply does not make sense on master' | 15:13 |
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| ihrachys | so I guess if we don't get a patch on master, we don't get it for stable | 15:14 |
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| dhellmann | ihrachys: for graduated code, "master" would be the library -- oslo.messaging | 15:15 |
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| ihrachys | dhellmann: as far as I understand, oslo.messaging is not the exact graduated code. Instead, it was reshuffled, api changed a bit etc. etc. It's not one-to-one relation between source trees. F.e. oslo.messaging is missing any tests for Qpid RPC implementation. | 15:23 |
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| dhellmann | ihrachys: that is true | 15:29 |
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| ayoung | bknudson, on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/68548/4 gyee had the same misgivings as you did. Had a pretty thorough discussion in IRC over it. | 15:53 |
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| bknudson | ayoung: we can't have an update notification that includes the "disabled" indicator? | 15:54 |
| ayoung | bknudson, not cleanly | 15:55 |
| bknudson | ayoung: dolphm also mentioned it in his review... I assume it's why he +1 rather than +2 | 15:55 |
| ayoung | disable and update are semantically different | 15:55 |
| ayoung | disable is more akin to delete | 15:55 |
| bknudson | ayoung: you can only disable something by updating it? | 15:55 |
| ayoung | and in fact, we have some entities that must be disabled before deleting | 15:56 |
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| ayoung | the wrapper does not know what kind of change is being made to the entity | 15:56 |
| ayoung | so it would take rewriting our notifciations code | 15:56 |
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| bknudson | ayoung: the wrapper has access to all the arguments of the function. | 15:56 |
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| ayoung | bknudson, that is not sufficient | 15:57 |
| ayoung | it needs to know semantically what field means enabled and what state change means disabled | 15:57 |
| ayoung | it couples the notifiation code to the enitites | 15:57 |
| bknudson | ayoung: ok, it has to know that the thing wasn't enabled already. | 15:57 |
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| ayoung | bknudson, and we don't put the whole entity into the notification payload | 15:57 |
| ayoung | what we want is a notification that a non-coupled consumer can use | 15:58 |
| ayoung | "disabled" is the right abstraction | 15:58 |
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| bknudson | ayoung: actually, it sends the disabled whether it was already disabled or not... | 15:59 |
| dstanek | ayoung: can't you add an optional arg to notifications.updated to tell it which field is the 'enabled' one? that would help stop sending multiple notifications | 16:00 |
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| ayoung | bknudson, I'll update the commit message to explain the field and to explain the justification | 16:00 |
| ayoung | dstanek, I oculd, but it would still be a mistake | 16:00 |
| dstanek | ayoung: why? | 16:00 |
| bknudson | so the concern is that the notification code doesn't know about the models now? | 16:00 |
| ayoung | update and disable are semantically different | 16:00 |
| ayoung | they are different events | 16:00 |
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| ayoung | it is part of our impl that disable is done via update, but that is not always the case: it can be external to the entity in other cases. | 16:01 |
| ayoung | They mean different things | 16:01 |
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| dstanek | ayoung: who will be listening for these events? | 16:02 |
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| ayoung | dstanek, in this case, it is the revocation code | 16:02 |
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| ayoung | it is rare that an update triggers a revocation, but disable almost always does | 16:02 |
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| ayoung | the only update that triggers a revocation is for password, which gets its own api anyway | 16:03 |
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| raildo | I need to do a test, and I need to make a request for this method https://github.com/openstack/horizon/blob/master/openstack_dashboard/api/glance.py#L40. The important thing of this test is to pass a specific url within this request. Any idea how to do this? | 16:07 |
| raildo | I searched some similar method in the horizon but have not found anything. | 16:08 |
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| bknudson | ayoung: is there a change-password notification? | 16:09 |
| bknudson | like disable. | 16:10 |
| ayoung | bknudson, nope. That one is not using notifications. | 16:10 |
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| morganfainberg | mornin. | 16:37 |
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| morganfainberg | bknudson, for the test_cert thing, would you rather I also fix the other ones that are directly setting the CONF object? | 16:38 |
| morganfainberg | bknudson, i don't see that as a huge hurdle. | 16:38 |
| bknudson | morganfainberg: is it wrong to directly set the CONF object? | 16:38 |
| bknudson | what's the difference? | 16:38 |
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| morganfainberg | bknudson, opt_in_group sets an override that wont be nuked by loading a configuration file | 16:39 |
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| morganfainberg | bknudson, overrides are truely override everything else | 16:39 |
| morganfainberg | bknudson, rather than hope that nothing loads in after that could override it | 16:39 |
| bknudson | morganfainberg: so the problem is loading the config file multiple times? | 16:39 |
| morganfainberg | bknudson, this comes down to the load_backends multiple times etc | 16:40 |
| morganfainberg | bknudson, one of the followup changes will be remodelling tests to define options in setUp (or similar) for the testcases | 16:40 |
| bknudson | morganfainberg: in the future it's going to be ok to directly set the CONF object? | 16:41 |
| morganfainberg | bknudson, rather than always loading in configs (e.g. have a couple configs to change for testing different options when developing tests, but tests should really setup a their configs in code, unless we're testing something specific about loading an object) | 16:41 |
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| bknudson | morganfainberg: I agree that we should have one way to do config and ti should be in the code and not test conf files. | 16:42 |
| morganfainberg | bknudson, well, opt_in_group should be used in most cases afaict, and i'm adding https://review.openstack.org/#/c/69077/ so we can use that instead | 16:42 |
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| bknudson | morganfainberg: when should we directly set CONF and not use opt_in_group? | 16:42 |
| morganfainberg | bknudson, which changes the "default" cleanly (and resets it at the end) so a config file _could_ be used | 16:42 |
| morganfainberg | bknudson, if you need a config file load to be able to override | 16:42 |
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| morganfainberg | bknudson, otherwise, opt_in_group should be used imo | 16:42 |
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| morganfainberg | bknudson, or the new code in ^ review i'll be looking to use for modelling it so we have the ability to still use test_overrides.conf (which should be empty unless you're testing something specific) | 16:43 |
| morganfainberg | that is to say, just an option to set a quick override rather than changing code to see how something works in a test (depending on environment setup etc) | 16:43 |
| bknudson | morganfainberg: if we shouldn't be directly setting CONF and be using opt_in_group, then I'd rather that it was changed so that they're all consistent. | 16:44 |
| lbragstad | ayoung: dolphm had another thought on this here, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/68548/5 | 16:44 |
| morganfainberg | bknudson, my goal is 3 test configs that are empty unless being used: live_test.conf, test_overrides.conf and uhmmm i thik the sql_disk config | 16:44 |
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| morganfainberg | bknudson, ok, i'll happiliy make those changes and get something else pushed up (opt_in_group) | 16:45 |
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| bknudson | morganfainberg: I haven't looked at the opt_in_group code so am not sure what the difference is... I thought it just set the values. | 16:45 |
| morganfainberg | bknudson, there are three types of option values, default, set, and override | 16:45 |
| morganfainberg | bknudson, opt_in_group sets the override which will explicitly override anything even what the config files says | 16:46 |
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| morganfainberg | bknudson, if a test needs a guarantee of an option being set, regardless of anything else, opt_in_group is the right answer afaict | 16:46 |
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| ayoung | bknudson, so that is the problem with the decorator approach. We are trying to make it "just happen" and then realize we need more entity specific logic....I'm just not certain that enabled/disabled are the same as entity update events. If you have to do logic on the emitting side to produce them, and then logic on the listening side to parse them... | 16:47 |
| morganfainberg | most tests should use that. | 16:47 |
| ayoung | they are too different things | 16:47 |
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| ayoung | OTOH, if the listener could still register for disable events, and only those update events that were disable events came through, I would say that is correct | 16:48 |
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| bknudson | ayoung: that's a good point about the listener only caring about disable events and not about all updates. | 16:49 |
| morganfainberg | bknudson, ok, i'm gonna go lie down for a bit, i'll poke you when i get to another patch that covers the other options. | 16:49 |
| morganfainberg | bknudson, should be later today. | 16:49 |
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| morganfainberg | ayoung, bknudson, disable seems like a very valid event to be sent, though does it make sense to use decorators or long term allow direct notifications ot be sent in-line (since it is specifically contexually aware this update is a disable) | 16:50 |
| morganfainberg | ? | 16:50 |
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| bknudson | morganfainberg: I think it makes sense to be able to send notifications inline. | 16:51 |
| morganfainberg | bknudson, *nod* | 16:51 |
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| ayoung | morganfainberg, inline will be useful. I think that, if we keep the existing update decorators, we want also to catch the call on the outbound side to be able to determine it is a disable event | 16:52 |
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| morganfainberg | ayoung, ++ ok | 16:52 |
| ayoung | But that changes the signature of the underlying call | 16:52 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, right. | 16:52 |
| ayoung | I don't think we can do it invisibly. | 16:52 |
| lbragstad | ayoung: and send that information in the update notification as an 'enabled' bool? | 16:52 |
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| bknudson | ayoung: you would have to capture the ref coming in, and then be able to provide a function to extract from the ref whether 'disabled' is in there or not, and add it to the notification. | 16:53 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, hm. trying to think if i can think of any magic that would make it invisibly possible...and i can't come up with anything that wouldn't make me unhappy | 16:53 |
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| ayoung | dstanek, you have experience yusing the python notification events library (forget what its called) what is the normal way for distinguishing between similar events (update/disable) and does it tend twoard inline calls vs. decorators? | 16:53 |
| morganfainberg | bknudson, but if the ref doesn't contain "enabled" inbound, we wouldn't know. | 16:53 |
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| morganfainberg | bknudson, not all cases does the ref have that... iirc | 16:54 |
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| bknudson | morganfainberg: how does the wrapped function know if it's enabling if the ref doesn't have "enabled"? | 16:54 |
| morganfainberg | bknudson, if we're not changing enabled flag for example | 16:54 |
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| morganfainberg | bknudson, we have to do a lookiup of the underlying ref. | 16:55 |
| bknudson | if the ref doesn't contain "enabled" inbound then they're not enabling or disabling it. | 16:55 |
| morganfainberg | bknudson, in the code, the decorator doesn't know. | 16:55 |
| morganfainberg | bknudson, oh. oh i see | 16:55 |
| morganfainberg | bknudson, yes | 16:55 |
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| morganfainberg | bknudson, sorry brain is a bit foggy today | 16:55 |
| bknudson | unless we need to include in every update whether the object is enabled or disabled currently? | 16:55 |
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| ayoung | so...knowing that a given field indicates "enabled" is not going to be part of the notifications library. Too specific to our impl | 16:56 |
| morganfainberg | bknudson, well, we could make the decorator capture ref, look for "enabled" and look at outbound ref, then say "is the state changed" and notify...but that seems dirtyish | 16:56 |
| morganfainberg | bknudson, and very impl specific. | 16:56 |
| ayoung | nope nope nope | 16:56 |
| ayoung | how abouts | 16:56 |
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| dstanek | ayoung: you make a signal which is just basically an object and then to notify things watching the signal you do it inline | 16:57 |
| ayoung | a decorator specific for disable. If the update decorator still hasn't been called on the outward bound, assume that it is a disable event | 16:57 |
| nspmangalore | hi | 16:57 |
| ayoung | notification nesting FTW | 16:57 |
| henrique | hello, does anyone can help me? im trying to isntall and run devstack on my machine and when i try any command such as "keystone user-list" i get: WARNING: Bypassing authentication using a token & endpoint (authentication credentials are being ignored). An unexpected error prevented the server from fulfilling your request. (OperationalError) (1045, "Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: YES)") None None ( | 16:57 |
| dstanek | ayoung: update_signal.send(sender=User, ...) | 16:57 |
| nspmangalore | is there a way to list all subobjects of a dynamic large object? also, how does the server decide the order of subobjects when answering a GET on the large object? | 16:57 |
| dstanek | ayoung: then things watch for update and can narrow down the ones they care about by the sender | 16:57 |
| morganfainberg | ookay, be back later | 16:58 |
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| dstanek | ayoung: here is a good example of using blinker (the 3rd party lib I was talking about) http://docs.mongoengine.org/guide/signals.html | 16:58 |
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| dstanek | they make generic signals like pre_save and post_save | 16:59 |
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| henrique | anyone? | 17:00 |
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| ayoung | dstanek, so pre and post...we are mostly doing _post | 17:01 |
| ayoung | no disable | 17:01 |
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| dstanek | ayoung: that's because mongo engine is a very generic lib - you could implement disabled on the post_save (even sending a signal named disabled if you detected that the entity was disabled) | 17:10 |
| ayoung | dstanek, yes, but it means that enable and disable are not first class events, and whatever we did would be custom to Keystone anyway | 17:11 |
| ayoung | I'm thinkg we should do this:L | 17:11 |
| ayoung | 1. get my patch in roughly as is | 17:11 |
| ayoung | 2. rework the notifications to use blinker | 17:12 |
| ayoung | 3. allow a disable event to supercede an update event...sort of | 17:12 |
| ayoung | that last will require some thinking | 17:12 |
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| roz | henrique: did you set the right credentials? something like source openrc admin admin | 17:12 |
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| henrique | roz: yes, i did. i've tryed just like you said | 17:14 |
| dstanek | ayoung: i'm not against having custom application events - that's exactly why i use blinker | 17:14 |
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| ayoung | dstanek, yeah...just that if everyone wanted disable, it would be a first class event. | 17:14 |
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| ayoung | it weakends my resolve, so to speak | 17:14 |
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| dstanek | ayoung: my 3 minute blinker example http://paste.openstack.org/show/61952/ | 17:16 |
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| ayoung | dstanek, is blinker in the global reqs yet? | 17:16 |
| ayoung | https://github.com/openstack/requirements/blob/master/global-requirements.txt | 17:17 |
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| dstanek | ayoung: i'm pretty sure it is not | 17:17 |
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| ayoung | so first we would need it there... | 17:17 |
| roz | henrique: is that a fresh installation? some hints could come from running commands with debug option and/or looking at the logs | 17:17 |
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| dstanek | ayoung: i'm not saying you need to switch :-) i'm ok with having our own thing for now. i was just answering your question about usage with an example | 17:18 |
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| henrique | roz: running with debug option, thats what i got: DEBUG:keystoneclient.session:REQ BODY: {"auth": {"tenantName": "admin", "passwordCredentials": {"username": "admin", "password": "admin"}}} | 17:20 |
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| henrique | roz: i think this should be ok for a fresh installation, right? | 17:20 |
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| roz | henrique: sorry but I have to leave: if it's a new installation | 17:30 |
| roz | did you get some erros during the installation? | 17:31 |
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| henrique | roz: no errors during the installation | 17:31 |
| roz | sometimes when I play with devstack unstack and stack may help | 17:31 |
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| roz | and have a look at the mailing list archive I am quite sure you can find some | 17:32 |
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| roz | suggestions | 17:32 |
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| tellesnobrega | hi, anyone from neutron here who can help me out with neutron policy.json? | 17:53 |
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| sdague | bknudson: so on - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/69218/ - I think that if you were headed down the path to make eventlet < INFO for logging, I'd just turn off the logging in it all together | 17:58 |
| sdague | because the INFO logging is basically request handling and starting a server | 17:58 |
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| raildo | I need to do a test, and I need to make a request for this method https://github.com/openstack/horizon/blob/master/openstack_dashboard/api/glance.py#L40. The important thing of this test is to pass a specific url within this request. Any idea how to do this? | 17:58 |
| raildo | I searched some similar method in the horizon but have not found anything. | 17:58 |
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| bknudson | sdague: I do like the log for starting the server... but we don't need eventlet to do that. Keystone should be able to do it if we want it. | 18:30 |
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| sdague | bknudson: sure, in which case, I'd turn off eventlet logging entirely. Though both neutron and nova are using eventlet for request logging, so there was some nice consistency there | 18:31 |
| bknudson | sdague: also, that's a separate review from https://review.openstack.org/#/c/69218/ ... so if you agree with the change to the commit message I'm good with that one. | 18:31 |
| sdague | it was a follow up question on the keystone bits anyway, which is the fact that keystone is currently double logging every wsgi request | 18:32 |
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| sdague | as well as printing out a deprecated message on every request | 18:32 |
| bknudson | sdague: I proposed a fix for the deprecated message to oslo-incubator... | 18:32 |
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| sdague | bknudson: cool, review? | 18:33 |
| bknudson | sdague: and I noticed dolphm posted a patch to deprecate the access logger. | 18:33 |
| bknudson | sdague: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/67668/ | 18:33 |
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| sdague | bknudson: so basically I'm trying to turn this into something you'd actually expect to read - http://logs.openstack.org/18/69218/1/check/check-tempest-dsvm-full/dd0a106/logs/screen-key.txt.gz?level=INFO | 18:33 |
| bknudson | sdague: I'll check dolphm's review... maybe he disabled the access log by default. | 18:34 |
| bknudson | I'm not sure if we want to use the access logger or the eventlet logger to log the request info. | 18:35 |
| bknudson | if everyone else is using the eventlet logger then that's probably the way to go. | 18:35 |
| sdague | bknudson: yeh, that would be the thing to sort out | 18:35 |
| sdague | neutron is | 18:35 |
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| sdague | nova is for osapi, it's double logging ec2 right now, I was working on fixing that | 18:35 |
| bknudson | although I don't really like having libraries logging stuff on us. we should log it ourselves IMO. | 18:35 |
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| sdague | well... eventlet server is a little different | 18:36 |
| sdague | but I can understand that | 18:36 |
| sdague | how does keystone handle it today? a paste pipeline? | 18:36 |
| bknudson | sdague: the access logger? it's in the paste pipeline. | 18:37 |
| sdague | yeh | 18:37 |
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| bknudson | sdague: and dolphm did remove the access logger from the default paste pipeline https://review.openstack.org/#/c/69404/1/etc/keystone-paste.ini | 18:37 |
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| sdague | so, honestly, getting it out of the paste pipeline seems like goodness to me. As dealing with upgrading those is .... *fun* | 18:37 |
| sdague | bknudson: ok, that's still pending though, right? | 18:38 |
| bknudson | sdague: yes... jenkins hasn't +1d it. | 18:38 |
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| sdague | yeh, there was a jenkins splode this morning, it will be catching up | 18:38 |
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| sdague | so how do you expect existing deploys to upgrade? | 18:39 |
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| bknudson | sdague: how do they change their paste config on upgrade? In this case they don't have to... it's deprecated not gone. | 18:39 |
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| sdague | bknudson: so if they don't, then their system is double logging everything? | 18:40 |
| sdague | and they don't know why? | 18:40 |
| bknudson | sdague: right, it's behaving as it does today. | 18:40 |
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| sdague | so I went the other way on the nova side - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/67736/ | 18:41 |
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| sdague | deprecate the class, tell the user to remove it from the pipeline | 18:41 |
| bknudson | sdague: that's what keystone does... and we remove access logger from our sample pipeline config file. | 18:42 |
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| sdague | ok | 18:42 |
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| sdague | the other part is in a different change? | 18:42 |
| bknudson | sdague: I like that it's more explicit about saying what to do to fix it. | 18:43 |
| bknudson | sdague: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/69404/ makes access logger print out the deprecated message, and also updates keystone sample paste config file. | 18:44 |
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| bknudson | sdague: with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/67668/, the code in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/67736/5/nova/api/ec2/__init__.py to only log once won't be needed... since LOG.deprecated should work as documented. | 18:46 |
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| reed | time to fix bugs is approaching zero hours... http://activity.openstack.org/dash/newbrowser/browser/its.html ? | 18:56 |
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| raildo | I need to do a test, and I need to make a request for this method https://github.com/openstack/horizon/blob/master/openstack_dashboard/api/glance.py#L40. The important thing of this test is to pass a specific url within this request. Any idea how to do this? I searched some similar method in the horizon but have not found anything. | 18:58 |
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| sdague | bknudson: yes, that's one of the reasons I +1ed the oslo patch | 19:00 |
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| sdague | flaper87: so another glance unit test fail in the gate on 58997,12 | 19:15 |
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| flaper87 | sdague: thanks for pointing it out, I'm on it | 19:15 |
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| rahmu | hello, I'm trying to run glance-manage db sync after a fresh devstack install, but it's complaining about not finding oslo.config: http://paste.openstack.org/show/61964/ | 19:50 |
| rahmu | Any idea how to solve this? | 19:50 |
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| roaet | Hallo | 20:13 |
| roaet | If we didn't receive our little summit free-pass thing who should we contact? | 20:13 |
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| clarkb | roaet: reed probably | 20:17 |
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| tellesnobrega | hello, where is the routers file for neutron? i need to check the flow from rest call to policy check and so on, but i cant find the routing | 20:29 |
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| dstanek | bknudson: hi | 20:32 |
| bknudson | dstanek: hi | 20:32 |
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| dstanek | bknudson: the only think i am worried about now is that we may be making it possible for devs to get themselves in trouble. args could contain other objects like entities | 20:33 |
| reed | roaet, if you have committed code, you'll get the invite | 20:34 |
| reed | roaet, we have not opened registration yet | 20:34 |
| dstanek | bknudson: do you think that is a realistic fear? the dict cache would keep the values around forever | 20:34 |
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| bknudson | dstanek: oh, yes. if you call LOG.deprecated with different kwargs every time they will pile up. | 20:35 |
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| dstanek | bknudson: does openstack already have an lru cache or some other weakref based cache? | 20:35 |
| bknudson | dstanek: but then you'll also get a deprecated message every time, which kind of defeats the purpose of deprecated. | 20:35 |
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| bknudson | dstanek: an lru cache or something would make sense... I would prefer an optimization like that went in a separate patch. | 20:36 |
| dstanek | bknudson: it would cut out the most frequent ones right? | 20:36 |
| francois1 | hi there, I'm looking for help to understand why this review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/66586/ is failing | 20:36 |
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| francois1 | this is a cherry-pick from icehouse into havana which looks pretty trivial | 20:37 |
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| bknudson | dstanek: It could use any method as far as I'm concerned... if we have enough different deprecated messages to pose a memory usage problem ... then change your code so not so many deprecated messages. | 20:38 |
| bknudson | dstanek: it could just give up printing any deprecated messages if there's too many. | 20:38 |
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| dstanek | bknudson: i took a look at my devstack checkouts and didn't see an instance of using objects, but i'd had to break someone's production environment | 20:39 |
| bknudson | dstanek: what's the concern? | 20:40 |
| bknudson | do you have an example? | 20:40 |
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| dstanek | bknudson: it's mostly bad usage, but that cache could easily grow too large for memory | 20:41 |
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| dstanek | bknudson: but imagine LOG.deprecated('Use method X on %s instead of method Y', User()) # where user is an SA object or some other heavy weight object | 20:42 |
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| dstanek | bknudson: maybe it can be handled through documentation | 20:44 |
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| bknudson | dstanek: ok, I can see that being a problem... not sure what the solution is though? | 20:45 |
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| bknudson | dstanek: serialize args and store the hash of that? | 20:45 |
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| bknudson | dstanek: can you json-ize anything with a str or rep? | 20:48 |
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| dstanek | bknudson: my initial thought was to check the loglevel and if it was warning or up and then using msg % args | 20:49 |
| bknudson | dstanek: the log level is deprecated. | 20:50 |
| dstanek | bknudson: but i don't think that is Python3 friendly | 20:50 |
| dstanek | bknudson: it logs as a warning | 20:50 |
| bknudson | dstanek: you're right that this is kind of expensive and should be skipped entirely if they're logging above warning. | 20:51 |
| bknudson | dstanek: another optimization that could be added later. | 20:51 |
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| dstanek | bknudson: i'm going to +1 it with a comment about cache bounds | 20:51 |
| bknudson | dstanek: propose the fix in a separate commit. | 20:52 |
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| dstanek | bknudson: i need to think about that for a bit :-) | 20:59 |
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| roaet | reed: when does registration open? I will start googling it, but if you know it I'd appreciate. | 21:11 |
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| reed | roaet, no need to google, just watch openstack.org/summit | 21:12 |
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| sdague | dhellmann_: so I take it new stevedore landed? | 21:12 |
| reed | roaet, anyway, it should open some time tomorrow | 21:12 |
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| reed | roaet, and you should receive an invitation with a free code to the summit if you have landed code recently | 21:12 |
| roaet | tomorrow? | 21:13 |
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| sdague | dhellmann_: https://jenkins02.openstack.org/job/gate-nova-python26/18414/console - looks like something changed such that nova unit tests now fail | 21:13 |
| dhellmann_ | sdague: that's probably the new stevedore I just cut | 21:14 |
| sdague | yep | 21:14 |
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| dhellmann_ | nova is mocking out plugin loading instead of using the test managers where the plugins can be passed? | 21:15 |
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| sdague | yeh, confirmed it's 0.14 | 21:15 |
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| dhellmann | yeah, there's a new argument on some of the init methods | 21:15 |
| dhellmann | there should be defaults on the "public" methods | 21:16 |
| dhellmann | oh, I'm passing an extra value to a method that is mocked now | 21:16 |
| dhellmann | sdague: let me look... | 21:16 |
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| dhellmann | sdague: ok, I think I see a quick fix | 21:19 |
| dhellmann | sdague: a better fix would be to use http://stevedore.readthedocs.org/en/latest/managers.html#stevedore.driver.DriverManager.make_test_instance but I don't know enough about nova to make that one | 21:20 |
| dhellmann | sdague: give me a minute | 21:20 |
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| dhellmann | sdague: actually, a few minutes, I need to build a fresh venv for the tests and I'm waiting for dependencies to install | 21:23 |
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| sdague | sure | 21:23 |
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| dhellmann | sdague: help me out here -- how can I make it more clear that the method being mocked out is private? | 21:23 |
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| Anticimex | have a devstack setup, relatively succesfull, except for glance-manage complaining: "from oslo.config import cfg\n ImportError: No module named config" - what is wrong? | 21:28 |
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| Anticimex | using forked devstack (contrail), perhaps should make glance build from source repo or sth - saw you could do that for some components | 21:29 |
| Anticimex | (if i'm in the wrong channel, let me know :) ) | 21:29 |
| sdague | dhellmann: don't know. | 21:29 |
| dhellmann | sdague: I'll stick a comment in the test script in this patch I'm working on | 21:30 |
| sdague | so if we just actually ate the magic args correctly, would that fix this? | 21:31 |
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| dhellmann | sdague: that's what I'm testing now | 21:31 |
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| dhellmann | sdague: dependencies are installed | 21:31 |
| dhellmann | sdague: ugh, I just hit the oslo.config import error, too | 21:31 |
| dhellmann | sdague: I assume testr works outside of a virtualenv if I have a devstack system? | 21:32 |
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| dhellmann | sdague: no, I get all sorts of errors about lock_path being a required option | 21:32 |
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| sdague | so I think I've got the fix | 21:34 |
| sdague | and yes, magic args makes it work | 21:35 |
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| dhellmann | sdague: ok | 21:35 |
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| dhellmann | sdague: https://review.openstack.org/69475 | 21:36 |
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| sdague | dhellmann: so it was actually in a 2nd place as well | 21:37 |
| dhellmann | sdague: ok, well, please put something like that comment in both places | 21:37 |
| sdague | dhellmann: https://review.openstack.org/69476 tests for me | 21:37 |
| dhellmann | sdague: my dev box is a bit out of date, so I don't have the test running cleanly yet | 21:37 |
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| sdague | dhellmann: looks like ceilometer is failing on basically the same issue - https://jenkins01.openstack.org/job/gate-ceilometer-python26/4006/console | 21:39 |
| dhellmann | sdague: ok | 21:39 |
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| topol | dolphm, you around? | 21:57 |
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| dstanek | morganfainberg|z: are you still working on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/60741? or are you planning on leaving it as abandoned? | 22:10 |
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| bknudson | gyee: ping | 22:33 |
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| gyee | bknudson, yes sir | 22:33 |
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| bknudson | gyee: I think we're going to have to figure out how to make the token middleware change to paste config be backwards compat | 22:33 |
| gyee | you mean the auth context middleware? | 22:33 |
| bknudson | gyee: we can't require a change to paste-config ... need to deprecate the old setup. | 22:34 |
| bknudson | gyee: yes, the auth context middleware | 22:34 |
| gyee | it is backward compat | 22:34 |
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| gyee | part of grenade testing | 22:34 |
| bknudson | gyee: the server doesn't start if you don't have the middleware. | 22:34 |
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| gyee | bknudson, I thought grenade tested this scenario already | 22:35 |
| gyee | new code with old config | 22:35 |
| gyee | bknudson, what error are you getting? | 22:35 |
| bknudson | gyee: https://bugs.launchpad.net/devstack/+bug/1257617 | 22:36 |
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| bknudson | gyee: wait, that's not it. | 22:36 |
| bknudson | gyee: I would see this when I'd check out an old patch that hadn't been rebased... | 22:37 |
| bknudson | so maybe it's more a problem of not being forwards compatible.. | 22:37 |
| gyee | bknudson, forward compatible? means new config with old code? | 22:37 |
| gyee | that won't work | 22:37 |
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| bknudson | gyee: ok, I thought I was running into a different problem. | 22:38 |
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| bknudson | gyee: it was when I was using the new config with old code... we don't have to support that. | 22:39 |
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| gyee | bknudson, no, I don't think we can support that | 22:39 |
| gyee | it would be tough, unless we can isolate the change config changes in a separate file | 22:40 |
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| bknudson | gyee: do you think keystone should complain if the auth context middleware is not in the paste pipeline? | 22:44 |
| bknudson | it's the default in our paste config | 22:44 |
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| gyee | bknudson, I would say no. It is designed to work like REMOTE_USER, that the auth context can be built externally. | 22:48 |
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| bknudson | gyee: ok. | 22:50 |
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| lifeless | markmcclain: ping (HA l3 stuff) | 23:14 |
| lifeless | dkehn: ^ will be chatting here if mark's around :) | 23:15 |
| devananda | dhellmann_: got a minute to chat about stevedore? 0.14 broke ironic's gate, but it's not realy your fault ... we're doing something wrong and i'm hoping you have a suggestion | 23:15 |
| dkehn | lifeless: k | 23:15 |
| lifeless | dkehn: http://docs.openstack.org/high-availability-guide/content/_adding_neutron_l3_agent_resource_to_pacemaker.html for instance is how I suspect we'll end up doing it today | 23:16 |
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| devananda | s/not really/really not/ | 23:16 |
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| markmcclain | lifeless: pong | 23:22 |
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| lifeless | markmcclain: hi so - for tripleo's next iteration we're aiming to keep vms running uninterrupted | 23:22 |
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| markmcclain | awesome | 23:23 |
| lifeless | markmcclain: we're solving the general case first - which is that there are kernel changes so we have to reboot | 23:23 |
| markmcclain | ok | 23:23 |
| lifeless | markmcclain: that means live migration for vms, and also we need to migrate the l3 routers around | 23:24 |
| lifeless | markmcclain: dhcp we can run active-active, but having not routing for 10 m would be a bit much | 23:24 |
| lifeless | markmcclain: my question for you is how you'd recommend doing that today - the pacemaker docs I linked above, or can I schedule multiple virtual routers to one subnet - does neutron support vrrp ? etc | 23:25 |
| markmcclain | right | 23:25 |
| lifeless | we can do one thing today and migrate to a more native solution as neutron evolves, of course | 23:25 |
| markmcclain | lifeless: there's a team working on VRRP | 23:25 |
| lifeless | but we could also be an early adopter of a patchset if there is something nearly-ready | 23:25 |
| markmcclain | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/l3-high-availability | 23:26 |
| markmcclain | they're still iterating based on community feedback | 23:26 |
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| lifeless | markmcclain: is it functional? Would we be crazy to run with it as a floating patch on trunk neutron? | 23:27 |
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| markmcclain | lifeless: could be a little crazy because I'm not sure how stable they've got it right now | 23:28 |
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| lifeless | markmcclain: so, whats your recommendation :) | 23:33 |
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| morganfainberg | dstanek, i was planning on revitalizing it and addressing the comments. it's needed to convert to memcache backend for tokens. | 23:46 |
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| jamielennox | bknudson: ping | 23:50 |
| bknudson | jamielennox: what's up? | 23:50 |
| jamielennox | i'm looking at the KDS DB review | 23:51 |
| jamielennox | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/59602/ | 23:51 |
| jamielennox | i had a bunch of comments that i had left in draft mode | 23:51 |
| jamielennox | from i think patch 24 | 23:51 |
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| jamielennox | from the latest patch though i think the only comment that i didn't address was https://review.openstack.org/#/c/59602/25/keystone/contrib/kds/common/exception.py | 23:52 |
| jamielennox | i'm not sure what else i should be giving there - name is the identifier | 23:52 |
| bknudson | jamielennox: "would be nice to know which key they were trying to set." | 23:52 |
| bknudson | the error message is you can't set the key but it doesn't say what the key is. | 23:52 |
| bknudson | why not tell them what the key is? | 23:52 |
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| gyee | jamielennox, bknudson, can you guys review this one? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/65381/ | 23:53 |
| gyee | it have a couple of dependents I think | 23:53 |
| jamielennox | because this is a database layer exception - by the time it gets to this point it's going to be encrypted and meaningless | 23:54 |
| jamielennox | name is the identifier | 23:54 |
| bknudson | jamielennox: ahhh | 23:54 |
| jamielennox | even if i could get to the keydata i'm not sure if there is any advantage in attaching that information to the exception | 23:54 |
| bknudson | jamielennox: I thought it meant a key in a dict | 23:54 |
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| jamielennox | bknudson: it's raised here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/59602/26/keystone/contrib/kds/db/sqlalchemy/api.py | 23:55 |
| bknudson | jamielennox: like a key/value pair | 23:55 |
| bknudson | since it says key value | 23:55 |
| bknudson | How about "Cannot set the key for %(name)s: %(reason)s" ? | 23:55 |
| jamielennox | bknudson: ah ok, i mean that we are storing a key in the database name -> keydata | 23:55 |
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| bknudson | or "Cannot set the %(name)s key: %(reason)s" | 23:56 |
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| jamielennox | ok, sure i don't mind either of those - it's something that i'm using subclassed anyway so i expect reason to be the more informative | 23:57 |
| jamielennox | bknudson: was there anything else from previous reviews that i missed? | 23:58 |
| bknudson | why have the first part if the reason is going to tell you everything? | 23:58 |
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