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| morganfainberg | bknudson, but i need to "fix" ldap storing the config values, config file hell, and then make load_backends not get called multiple times. | 00:00 |
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| bknudson | morganfainberg: what a mess! | 00:00 |
| bknudson | how did it get this way? | 00:00 |
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| morganfainberg | bknudson, eh. because we inherited some ick.. and now we're paying for it | 00:00 |
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| morganfainberg | bknudson, the biggest blocker is that BaseLDAP stores the config values and tests expect to do load_backends or reload_backends | 00:01 |
| morganfainberg | bknudson, and "fixing" BaseLDAP will break henry-nash's incomplete per-domain thing that we're having to keep it | 00:01 |
| bknudson | morganfainberg: just get rid of that stuff it doesn't work. | 00:02 |
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| morganfainberg | bknudson, i keep trying to, ayoung, and others keep saying "no we should fix it" instead | 00:02 |
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| bknudson | are they proposing patches to fix it? | 00:02 |
| morganfainberg | i tried to make the case at the hackathon | 00:02 |
| morganfainberg | i tried to make the case before | 00:02 |
| morganfainberg | keep being told "nope" | 00:02 |
| bknudson | I wish I could have been there. | 00:03 |
| morganfainberg | bknudson, we did miss ya there | 00:03 |
| bknudson | I'll have enough ammunition for an argument that they need to send me to these things. | 00:03 |
| morganfainberg | phone brant is not as good as in-person brant | 00:03 |
| morganfainberg | :) | 00:03 |
| bknudson | I really couldn't hear most of the time, so was easily distracted. | 00:03 |
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| morganfainberg | bknudson, yeah, hard when we have 2-3 convos going on at once | 00:03 |
| morganfainberg | not friendly to conf-call people | 00:04 |
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| bknudson | morganfainberg: it never works when there's only 1-2 people outside the room. need everyone on the phone | 00:04 |
| morganfainberg | bknudson, aye | 00:04 |
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| morganfainberg | bknudson, i think i have a way to make it "limp" along (mostly revolving around storing a ref to a config object) in BaseLDAP and we can argue the other points as we go | 00:05 |
| morganfainberg | bknudson, also, i need to "fix" the auth plugin stuff, dynamically created config options are bad. | 00:05 |
| morganfainberg | bknudson, so, i have my work cut out for me here ;) | 00:05 |
| bknudson | morganfainberg: well, if you can get it done and cut testing time in half you will be a hero in my book | 00:06 |
| bknudson | (in half only because my vm only has 2 cpus) | 00:06 |
| morganfainberg | bknudson, even w/ 4CPUs it will help a lot | 00:06 |
| morganfainberg | bknudson, i think this weekend is my timeline to sit down and try and get something proposed up for some eyes | 00:07 |
| bknudson | clarkb: https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/1271775 -- I suppose you could add other projects if you don't like their log format. | 00:08 |
| clarkb | bknudson: swift is the only other remaining project and they aren't switching :( | 00:08 |
| bknudson | clarkb: what's their excuse? | 00:09 |
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| clarkb | bknudson: they don't use oslo anything iirc | 00:09 |
| bknudson | (maybe I can use the same one) | 00:09 |
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| morganfainberg | clarkb, :( | 00:11 |
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| bknudson | clarkb: morganfainberg: looks like it's devstack sets up nova -- http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-dev/devstack/tree/lib/nova#n436 | 00:35 |
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| ayoung | morganfainberg, and now we have a plan to fix it. | 00:37 |
| clarkb | bknudson: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-dev/devstack/tree/lib/heat#n86 it doesn't do it for heat though, I think the devstack line may not be necessary | 00:37 |
| bknudson | clarkb: line 91: "setup_colorized_logging $HEAT_CONF DEFAULT tenant user" | 00:38 |
| clarkb | bknudson: we don't do colorized anymore in the gate though | 00:38 |
| clarkb | that is a noop | 00:38 |
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| bknudson | clarkb: ah, I'll disable that on my system then | 00:40 |
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| dstanek | morganfainberg, bknudson, ayoung: is it wrong to want to use 'from six.moves import urllib' instead or 'from six import moves'? | 00:42 |
| bknudson | dstanek: pep8 checks that | 00:42 |
| dstanek | morganfainberg, bknudson, ayoung: technically speaking urllib is a class that when accessed returns module objects | 00:42 |
| bknudson | if it passes pep8 then it's ok | 00:43 |
| dstanek | bknudson: giving it a try now | 00:43 |
| dstanek | bknudson: well it doesn't complain | 00:48 |
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| clarkb | dstanek: make sure you run it as tox -epep8 and not pep8 directly | 00:49 |
| clarkb | as it is actually hacking checkign that | 00:49 |
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| dstanek | clarkb: yeah, that's what i was doing | 00:49 |
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| bknudson | clarkb: looks like when I run without --log-config /etc/keystone/logging.conf it uses the common log format | 00:51 |
| dstanek | clarkb: actually that reminds me that i need to get that pbr change working | 00:51 |
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| clarkb | bknudson: interesting, so maybe it is built in? | 00:54 |
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| bknudson | clarkb: y, it seems like none of the other exes set up by devstack use --log-config. Trying to see if there's a reason keystone has it... | 00:55 |
| bknudson | maybe just legacy | 00:55 |
| bknudson | here's nova-api: screen_it n-api "cd $NOVA_DIR && $NOVA_BIN_DIR/nova-api" | 00:56 |
| bknudson | they don't have any options | 00:56 |
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| zul | vishy: because we have a lorotate file for keystone | 00:58 |
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| vishy | zul: i understand that it is in the logrotate the question is why was it added | 01:08 |
| vishy | none of the other services restart after rotation | 01:08 |
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| zul | vishy: i dont remember | 01:09 |
| markwash | stevebaker: I have a few questions for you if you happen to be around | 01:10 |
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| stevebaker | markwash: sure | 01:10 |
| markwash | stevebaker: cool, first one | 01:11 |
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| markwash | at the glance summit, I wanna make sure every body is familiar enough with heat to talk about it as it relates to the images program, so I was looking to just steal somebody's slides and present them | 01:11 |
| markwash | any recommendations? | 01:11 |
| stevebaker | heh | 01:12 |
| vishy | zul: yeah it seems really nasty so i would like to know | 01:12 |
| stevebaker | markwash: zaneb did an intro talk reasonably recently, with slides plus an infosheet | 01:12 |
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| markwash | is that one of the sets of slides linked on the heat openstack wiki? | 01:14 |
| stevebaker | markwash: https://github.com/zaneb/presentations/tree/heat-introduction | 01:14 |
| stevebaker | possibly, yes | 01:14 |
| markwash | okay cool | 01:14 |
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| markwash | stevebaker: another question, I'm curious what you and heat-core in general thinks about the idea of saving / publishing templates? | 01:14 |
| bknudson | clarkb: morganfainberg: there you go: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/68530/ | 01:15 |
| zaneb | markwash: it's good as long as they are version-controlled | 01:15 |
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| stevebaker | markwash: we support it, but not in a way that sits behind the heat-api | 01:15 |
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| bknudson | keystone gets colorized logs | 01:15 |
| markwash | zaneb: version controlled? I can think of a few senses in which you might mean that | 01:16 |
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| markwash | versioning the template format? or versioning the template objects themselves | 01:16 |
| stevebaker | markwash: we're happy to add any features required to support an external repository, like storing template hash with the template | 01:16 |
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| zaneb | markwash: the template objects themselves. As in, if we encourage people not to store their templates in Git, we had better give them something just as good | 01:17 |
| markwash | zaneb: ah good comparison | 01:17 |
| clarkb | bknudson: neat that is simple | 01:17 |
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| bknudson | clarkb: it's great when you can make it better by removing complexity | 01:17 |
| markwash | stevebaker, zaneb: how do you think it would be most natural for heat to consume templates like that? client downloads template and sends it to heat? or client sends some reference/pointer to the template to heat? | 01:18 |
| stevebaker | markwash: my personal desire is to use git as the template storage, and have hooks which keep the glance index up to date for discoverability and read-only fetching | 01:18 |
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| zaneb | markwash: templates can and do change over the life of a stack, and in fact that is kind of the point of Heat. So encouraging users to use workflows that take advantage of that, e.g. by allowing auditing, diffs, &c. is critical | 01:19 |
| markwash | the one major advantage I could see for something like glance over git is, glance can actually *know* what types of resources are permissible | 01:19 |
| markwash | for example, it could raise early warnings if you are creating a template that makes a reference to a flavor that doesn't exist (well kind of anyway) | 01:20 |
| stevebaker | markwash: heat normallly just consumes APIs, so I think passing a ref/name to heat and getting heat to fetch from glance would be acceptable | 01:20 |
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| zaneb | the advantage of glance over git is that it is (a) inside the cloud's firewall and (b) is a trusted thing that heat-api could actually safely grab data from | 01:21 |
| asalkeld | git as-a-service (gitlab template) https://review.openstack.org/#/c/65457/ | 01:22 |
| jaypipes | SpamapS: thx. now I have a boat-load of reading for this weekend about McCabe complexity and Halstead volume. :) | 01:22 |
| zaneb | markwash: the thing about knowing in advance what resource types are available is actually not that interesting imo | 01:23 |
| stevebaker | getting glance to call heat template-validate on template upload would probably be a useful feature, rather than having its own validate logic | 01:23 |
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| asalkeld | I think that (glance validation) is out of scope for glance | 01:24 |
| asalkeld | glance should just store | 01:24 |
| markwash | so, glance's scope is a weird thing | 01:24 |
| markwash | but glance doesn't even want to store stuff :-) | 01:24 |
| markwash | because its not very nice for large data which comes up pretty frequently | 01:24 |
| asalkeld | ? | 01:24 |
| markwash | when glance was created, many people argued against it, and I think their points are valid if you view it as an image store | 01:25 |
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| markwash | the reason why big public clouds want something like glance is because for support reasons they don't want customers booting whatever bytes they want | 01:25 |
| markwash | so there needs to be a gate keeper | 01:26 |
| markwash | glance could do a similar thing for flavors | 01:26 |
| markwash | for block device arrangements | 01:26 |
| markwash | for nics | 01:26 |
| markwash | for groupings of servers | 01:26 |
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| asalkeld | so it's more of a sharing/not sharing service | 01:26 |
| markwash | well, its lots of things, but imo that's what it makes sense to be | 01:27 |
| markwash | well, sharing and hooks for ensuring the internal structure is approved | 01:27 |
| markwash | by the owner of the cloud | 01:27 |
| stevebaker | that seems to match the original template repo use cases quite well | 01:28 |
| asalkeld | well you can still add any image you want to glance right (for your own use) | 01:28 |
| markwash | basically things that make it easier to boot something that works, or potentially prevent you from booting something that doesn't work | 01:28 |
| stevebaker | asalkeld: if your cloud lets you | 01:28 |
| markwash | asalkeld: not generally, public clouds don't allow direct upload | 01:28 |
| clarkb | they should >_> | 01:28 |
| markwash | private clouds often restrict the upload to admins as well | 01:29 |
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| markwash | clarkb: yes, but some of them want some opportunity to validate them | 01:29 |
| markwash | which is gross for various reasons | 01:29 |
| markwash | but still perhaps practical | 01:29 |
| asalkeld | could go the more social route | 01:29 |
| stevebaker | so much for our glorious image-based uploads future | 01:29 |
| asalkeld | and have +1s | 01:29 |
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| stevebaker | image-based updates rather | 01:29 |
| asalkeld | (like app store systems) | 01:30 |
| markwash | clarkb: ugh. . first them -> clouds second them -> images | 01:30 |
| markwash | asalkeld: that's probably in the cards too | 01:30 |
| clarkb | I just want to be able to do less crazy things around images. today we snapshot stuff to have all of the gate data cached | 01:31 |
| asalkeld | and cloud admin has a big <approved> button too | 01:31 |
| markwash | my angle is this, I'd like for people to be able to show up with relatively complex OVAs and have a path in openstack to convert them to openstack resources and HOT templates | 01:31 |
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| stevebaker | I bet git hooks could be written to upload every commit to glance <-- the best of both worlds | 01:32 |
| asalkeld | stevebaker, that is what solum is for | 01:32 |
| stevebaker | right | 01:32 |
| asalkeld | you git push your app, it triggers an image build | 01:32 |
| asalkeld | then zuul test | 01:33 |
| asalkeld | then heat deploy | 01:33 |
| asalkeld | (uploads to glance once the image build is done) | 01:33 |
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| markwash | well, thanks for your time, I think I've got a bit to go on at least | 01:35 |
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| ayoung | bknudson, BTW, I was heads down redoing the token stuff IAW the notfications, I have not yet addressed your comments from review 24. SAome of them may no longer be relevant, but the 2 I looked at are. There will be another revision that incorporates them | 01:39 |
| bknudson | ayoung: ok, thanks for looking at it again. | 01:40 |
| bknudson | sounds like it's getting better all the time. | 01:40 |
| bknudson | "plan to throw one away" | 01:40 |
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| ayoung | bknudson, thansk for the review. I might break this patch up again, but it is a little more cohesive now than it was when I split it before | 01:41 |
| ayoung | Splitting it would be more tricky to get right now, and I am not certain it would make it that much easier to review | 01:41 |
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| bknudson | ayoung: if I review it and see something that could be split out then I'll mention it. | 01:42 |
| ayoung | bknudson, probably the notifications stuff should be broken out. | 01:42 |
| bknudson | ayoung: sometimes I think it's easier to break it out so that you can think about it as more of a library | 01:42 |
| ayoung | I need to rebase it on top of a patch that morgan submitted | 01:42 |
| ayoung | can you look at that patch? | 01:42 |
| bknudson | ayoung: morgan's or yours? | 01:42 |
| ayoung | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/68470/ | 01:43 |
| ayoung | morgans | 01:43 |
| morganfainberg | bknudson, hm? | 01:43 |
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| morganfainberg | ooh jenkins liked my patch >.< | 01:43 |
| bknudson | ayoung: I was expecting a 1000 line review. | 01:43 |
| morganfainberg | bknudson, phsaw. | 01:43 |
| ayoung | It would be really easy on that patch to say "needs more testing" | 01:43 |
| morganfainberg | bknudson, i'll rebase it into something longer for you | 01:43 |
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| ayoung | mostly due to adding a new notification type, and maybe that should be split into a separate patch, along with the place I added those notifications in my patch | 01:44 |
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| bknudson | morganfainberg: this could be split up... what does new disabled action have to do with what's in the commit message? | 01:44 |
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| ayoung | doesn't | 01:44 |
| ayoung | it was from my patch | 01:45 |
| morganfainberg | bknudson, *points at ayoung* | 01:45 |
| ayoung | I need both changes, and he was working on the other part | 01:45 |
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| morganfainberg | bknudson, he asked me to join them... | 01:45 |
| morganfainberg | bknudson, it could be split though | 01:45 |
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| ayoung | morganfainberg, I was more concerned about the behavior | 01:45 |
| morganfainberg | bknudson, and i wont complain if you ask it to be done | 01:45 |
| ayoung | yours dropped the exception ,but mine actually registers the callback | 01:45 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, yeah i was actually running into a meeting when you asked ;) wanted to get ya something "usable" | 01:45 |
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| ayoung | morganfainberg, I can take it and run with it from here | 01:46 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, sure. if ya want i'm about elbow deep in some auth plugin loading fixes, but i can split it up easily if you want. | 01:46 |
| ayoung | nah, I'll take it and run with it | 01:47 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, cool. | 01:47 |
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| morganfainberg | bknudson, sorry I didn't split it up in advance | 01:47 |
| bknudson | morganfainberg: does python have something like http://dojotoolkit.org/reference-guide/1.9/dojo/aspect.html#id3 ? | 01:47 |
| bknudson | essentially you can register a function to be called whenever another function is called. | 01:47 |
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| morganfainberg | bknudson, try/finally? | 01:47 |
| morganfainberg | bknudson, actually... more like decorator | 01:48 |
| bknudson | I guess it's kind of like a mock? | 01:48 |
| ayoung | bknudson, you mean that can be layerd on afterwards? | 01:48 |
| morganfainberg | bknudson, yeah, you could use a decorator and monkey patching. | 01:48 |
| morganfainberg | but it'd be ugly | 01:48 |
| ayoung | decorator is a-priori | 01:48 |
| bknudson | ayoung: yes, it would be layered afterwards. | 01:48 |
| ayoung | he means posteri | 01:48 |
| ayoung | https://pypi.python.org/pypi/python-aspects/ | 01:48 |
| bknudson | essentially like call_after(orig_function, new_function) | 01:48 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, bknudson, if you changed the metaclass you could do it | 01:48 |
| ayoung | morganfainberg, that is backewards | 01:49 |
| ayoung | this is where you don't change the original code | 01:49 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, no, metaclass checks the after registration | 01:49 |
| ayoung | you inject the aspect into cutpoint | 01:49 |
| bknudson | ayoung: that aspects library looks like the concept. | 01:49 |
| ayoung | bknudson, I workedwith aspects some in the Java world | 01:50 |
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| bknudson | java kind of requires a different jvm or compiler? | 01:50 |
| ayoung | Not 100% I like the idea of them, as them make it somewhat more difficult to se what is going on | 01:50 |
| bknudson | it's easier with dynamic languages | 01:50 |
| bknudson | yes, it's easy to be surprised. | 01:50 |
| ayoung | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AspectJ | 01:50 |
| morganfainberg | bknudson, it essentially monkey patches the code to reference a try'/finally method | 01:51 |
| morganfainberg | bknudson, aspects.py ayoung linked that is | 01:51 |
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| bknudson | it's probably better to make the places to listen in on explicit. | 01:51 |
| ayoung | ++ | 01:51 |
| dstanek | aspects are a neat idea, but when i've worked with them in practice too many people got confused | 01:51 |
| ayoung | ++ | 01:51 |
| bknudson | but for keystone we could define that as the manager class interface or something. | 01:51 |
| morganfainberg | bknudson, ++ aspects would make things worse than a metaclass change | 01:51 |
| ayoung | I say that we should let our notification code grown organically | 01:52 |
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| ayoung | I suspect that we are going to have to be careful | 01:52 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, for Juno we need to take a hard look at that stuff. | 01:52 |
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| ayoung | the question is how much data to put into the notification, and whether notified classes need to do a fetch from the DB to access more | 01:52 |
| morganfainberg | it might need some cleanup. | 01:52 |
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| morganfainberg | ayoung, yeah :( | 01:53 |
| ayoung | typically, you put an object pointer into an event, and then have an implicit rule that the notification can only be used in the same thread, syncronously, or you put an object reference into the event, and it can pass thread boundaries | 01:54 |
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| ayoung | we are doing the latter | 01:54 |
| dstanek | have you guys seen blinker signals? | 01:54 |
| morganfainberg | dstanek, people don't use those when changing lanes in LA | 01:54 |
| ayoung | I saw an old lady drive with one on for 3 miles | 01:54 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, ++ | 01:54 |
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| dstanek | morganfainberg: :-) | 01:55 |
| dstanek | https://pypi.python.org/pypi/blinker | 01:55 |
| ayoung | I suspect it was on when she bought the car | 01:55 |
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| ayoung | http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-4.8/signalsandslots.html | 01:55 |
| bknudson | http://www.boost.org/doc/libs/1_55_0/doc/html/signals.html | 01:56 |
| ayoung | and http://www.mpich.org/ if you like scientific computing (massively parallel stuff) | 01:56 |
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| bknudson | the dojo js library used a connect() method but have since switched to the aspect library. | 01:57 |
| ayoung | dstanek, have you used the blinker stuff before? Pretty straightforward? | 01:57 |
| dstanek | ayoung: yes i've used it quite a bit | 01:57 |
| ayoung | I don;t hold Javascript up as the shining example to the world | 01:57 |
| ayoung | dstanek, is it what we should be using here> | 01:57 |
| bknudson | ayoung: you should try using it with dojo. It can be very pretty | 01:57 |
| dstanek | ayoung: i wasn't following the entire conversation | 01:58 |
| ayoung | bknudson, I should have used Dojo on my last project. I think they';ve switched over to it since I left | 01:58 |
| ayoung | dstanek, keystone/notifications.py | 01:58 |
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| bknudson | https://repo.anl-external.org/viewvc/bgq-driver/V1R1M1/navigator/script/bluegene/navigator/Navigator.js?revision=1&view=markup&sortdir=down&pathrev=1 | 02:00 |
| dstanek | ayoung: who is listening for notifications? just classed defined in the config? | 02:01 |
| ayoung | dstanek, they need to register | 02:01 |
| bknudson | dstanek: we sent notifications over rpc | 02:01 |
| ayoung | that too | 02:01 |
| bknudson | dstanek: and now will also have notifications internally? | 02:01 |
| dstanek | ayoung: it seems like maybe a similar design to blinker | 02:03 |
| ayoung | NIH | 02:03 |
| ayoung | We really need to stop doing that | 02:04 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, sorry :( - i should have done more research. | 02:04 |
| ayoung | s'alright | 02:04 |
| morganfainberg | well. | 02:04 |
| morganfainberg | we all should have | 02:04 |
| ayoung | I suspect we needed a Keystone specific layer on top of blinker | 02:04 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, likely, we might be able to retrofit blinker in either case | 02:04 |
| ayoung | at least we have not rolled our own crypto | 02:04 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, oslo.crypto? | 02:04 |
| dstanek | ayoung: yes, most projects i've used with blinker write a little shim to tailor the message format | 02:05 |
| ayoung | just a wrapper | 02:05 |
| ayoung | dstanek, keep it in the back of your head for an idle day | 02:05 |
| ayoung | we would need blinker in global requirements and all that | 02:05 |
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| morganfainberg | nod. | 02:05 |
| morganfainberg | it's really hard to keep track of everything python library wise when reviewing code. | 02:06 |
| morganfainberg | =/ | 02:06 |
| ayoung | We have dstanek to do that for us now | 02:06 |
| dstanek | here is a real life impl of blinker signals http://docs.mongoengine.org/guide/signals.html | 02:06 |
| dstanek | ayoung: yay! | 02:06 |
| morganfainberg | hehe | 02:06 |
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| ayoung | seriosuly, knowing when to use an existing lib and when to roll your own requires a lot of language specific experience. We need more serious Pythonistas , glad to have you aboard for that reason and more. | 02:07 |
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| bknudson | python has a library for everything | 02:08 |
| bknudson | or 2 libraries for everything | 02:08 |
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| dstanek | python suffers from not-invented-here | 02:08 |
| ayoung | bknudson, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/68470/3/keystone/notifications.py better? | 02:09 |
| ayoung | python also suffers from "I have a small problem with your impl so I am going to do my own." | 02:09 |
| ayoung | requests vs httplib anyone? | 02:10 |
| bknudson | ayoung: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/68470/3/keystone/notifications.py still has the extra "disabled" stuff. --- and I don't have a problem with leaing RESOURCE_TYPES around if it's for debug... although a log might be easier to analyze. | 02:10 |
| ayoung | I thikn that the keys in the map will be there to debug with which will be less surprising, and also less redundant | 02:11 |
| ayoung | as for the disabled...though I scrapped that | 02:11 |
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| morganfainberg | ayoung, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/68470/3/keystone/notifications.py still has "disabled" in the frozenset | 02:12 |
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| ayoung | ah...missed that | 02:12 |
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| ayoung | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/68470/4/keystone/notifications.py | 02:13 |
| ayoung | dstanek, care to look as well | 02:14 |
| dstanek | ayoung: sure | 02:14 |
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| morganfainberg | wtf. | 02:17 |
| morganfainberg | did we change how tox works? | 02:17 |
| morganfainberg | because i'm getting strange fail-fast behavior now even w/o runtests | 02:17 |
| morganfainberg | *blink* what did I break | 02:18 |
| morganfainberg | ... something isn't making any sense | 02:18 |
| dstanek | morganfainberg: i added fast fail to runtests, but not to vanilla tox | 02:19 |
| morganfainberg | dstanek, i somehow broke tox. | 02:19 |
| morganfainberg | dstanek, and i'm not getting anything useful out of it either. | 02:19 |
| morganfainberg | weird. | 02:20 |
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| morganfainberg | oh | 02:22 |
| morganfainberg | ... broken addCleanup | 02:22 |
| morganfainberg | wow, that produces no useful output | 02:22 |
| morganfainberg | still broken | 02:23 |
| morganfainberg | how did ... i break this | 02:23 |
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| ayoung | bknudson, can you just clean up the commit message https://review.openstack.org/#/c/66596/2 | 02:27 |
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| ayoung | shardy is long asleep in England on this Saint Crispians day | 02:28 |
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| bknudson | ayoung: do you agree the commit message should be changed? | 02:33 |
| ayoung | bknudson, yep | 02:33 |
| bknudson | ayoung: ok | 02:33 |
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| morganfainberg | dstanek, ever seen this? | 02:34 |
| morganfainberg | Traceback (most recent call last): | 02:34 |
| morganfainberg | _StringException | 02:34 |
| dstanek | that's all you get? just those two lines? | 02:35 |
| morganfainberg | yep | 02:35 |
| morganfainberg | thats it | 02:35 |
| morganfainberg | erll | 02:35 |
| morganfainberg | well, i get a fail on the test too | 02:35 |
| dstanek | no that's strange - are you just running 'tox -epy27'? | 02:35 |
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| morganfainberg | that's run tests | 02:36 |
| morganfainberg | dstanek, tox gives no indication either | 02:36 |
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| morganfainberg | i tried a clean git repo, tried new venv | 02:36 |
| morganfainberg | etc | 02:36 |
| morganfainberg | nothing | 02:36 |
| bknudson | ayoung: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/66596/2 done | 02:36 |
| morganfainberg | dstanek, ok i found the code issue but.... i am not gettign anything useful... *goes to ponder on what the heck is going on* | 02:37 |
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| morganfainberg | oh | 02:37 |
| morganfainberg | no. | 02:37 |
| morganfainberg | hm | 02:37 |
| bknudson | morganfainberg: old venv? | 02:38 |
| morganfainberg | bknudson, nope | 02:38 |
| bknudson | morganfainberg: tox isn't running? | 02:39 |
| morganfainberg | bknudson, it is, just fails right off the bat, no output | 02:39 |
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| morganfainberg | says 3 tests run. | 02:39 |
| morganfainberg | but nothing useful | 02:39 |
| morganfainberg | i'm digging into what is going on now, at least i know it's my new code. | 02:40 |
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| ayoung | morganfainberg, could be a syntax error | 02:47 |
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| ayoung | I find things like that don't always produce output. I end up seeing the stack trace in eclipse | 02:48 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, no, if i don't call my new method, it continues | 02:49 |
| morganfainberg | so not syntax | 02:49 |
| morganfainberg | something ... odd | 02:49 |
| ayoung | run in the debugger | 02:49 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, can't atm, | 02:49 |
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| morganfainberg | ayoung, need to rebuild some stuff to make that happen | 02:49 |
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| ayoung | does it happen if you run the whole test suite and also when you run the individual test | 02:49 |
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| morganfainberg | it fails the tests after 3s | 02:50 |
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| morganfainberg | doesn't even run the whole suite | 02:50 |
| ayoung | what happens when you run just that test? | 02:50 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, aha. | 02:51 |
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| morganfainberg | ayoung, it was trying to use a list instead of a {} | 02:51 |
| morganfainberg | typo on my part | 02:51 |
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| morganfainberg | but that is the first time i've seen 0 output | 02:51 |
| morganfainberg | rather than a stack-trace | 02:52 |
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| morganfainberg | dstanek, wow, something we merged recently is making tox fail with no output in some cases. | 02:58 |
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| morganfainberg | i think | 02:59 |
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| dstanek | morganfainberg: i haven't seen that yet | 02:59 |
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| morganfainberg | dstanek, it's really odd. | 03:00 |
| dstanek | i'll try in a new env and see if i can reproduce | 03:00 |
| morganfainberg | dstanek, it has to do w/ my new code. but . | 03:00 |
| morganfainberg | dstanek, this seems insane | 03:00 |
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| morganfainberg | oh of course. | 03:01 |
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| dstanek | morganfainberg: can you put your patch somewhere? | 03:02 |
| morganfainberg | dstanek, yeah but i'll need to do it once i figure out how to change the code. can't even run it like it is because it makes the assumption that the auth controller will be instantiated once | 03:03 |
| morganfainberg | well... that just isn't true | 03:03 |
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| morganfainberg | dstanek, trying to unwind the auth_plugin options. | 03:03 |
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| morganfainberg | dstanek, we were lazy loading them before, so i tried to make them load up front, running into strange issues | 03:04 |
| morganfainberg | dstanek, well.. not so strange. | 03:04 |
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| ayoung | morganfainberg, did you try run_tests.sh? | 03:07 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, yeah it works better if i skip some of the first tests | 03:08 |
| ayoung | cool | 03:08 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, but if i don't skip, it does the same thing | 03:08 |
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| morganfainberg | it's... kinda ugly | 03:08 |
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| ayoung | I hate it when I do git commit --amend and I what I really want is a new commit. | 03:09 |
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| dstanek | ayoung: you can get your original un-amended commmit from the reflog | 03:11 |
| bknudson | ayoung: I clear out the commit message | 03:11 |
| bknudson | there's probably a better way | 03:11 |
| ayoung | bknudson, yeah..I tried to do that and messed it up, too. I ended up just checking out the origian HEAD and cherry-picking my patch on top | 03:12 |
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| ayoung | bknudson, morganfainberg https://review.openstack.org/#/c/68548/ is the rest of the notifications changes | 03:24 |
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| morganfainberg | stevemar, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/68551 1 of... a bunch... | 04:14 |
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| morganfainberg | annnnd with that. | 04:15 |
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| stevemar | haha, morganfainberg, and with that i'm out too | 04:16 |
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| tellesnobrega | henrynash: hi, in this new policy.json, can i still use the rule project_id:%(project_id) to list users for example? I'm trying to define a project_admin rule but It doesn't seem to work | 13:25 |
| tellesnobrega | henrynash: im using this command curl -si -H"X-Auth-Token:$TOKEN_ADMIN_PROJECT2" -H "Content-type: application/json" http://localhost:35357/v3/users?project_id=306df202af134d0483c9c85f0a3ad6ca | 13:26 |
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| irenab | baoli: ping | 14:01 |
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| tellesnobrega | hi, can anyone help me find how the policy is checked when calling a list_users in keystone? | 14:21 |
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| tellesnobrega | can anyone explain what the project_id:%(project_id)s rule in keystone policy.json especifies? does it only get the project_id in context? from the user token? from the filter? | 14:51 |
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| ttx | kgriffs, flaper87: let me know if I can tag icehouse-2 for Marconi (based on the current milestone-proposed branch) | 15:19 |
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| ttx | devananda: same question for Ironic | 15:19 |
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| flaper87 | ttx: the branch looks good. It has everything we wanted to have there! | 15:20 |
| ttx | ok, tagging then | 15:20 |
| flaper87 | ttx: thanks a lot! | 15:20 |
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| ttx | flaper87: done | 15:23 |
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| flaper87 | ttx: thnx! :D | 15:23 |
| ttx | https://launchpad.net/marconi/+milestone/icehouse-2 | 15:23 |
| * flaper87 is so exited, first Marconi's cut! | 15:23 | |
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| ttx | SergeyLukjanov: https://launchpad.net/savanna/+milestone/icehouse-2 | 15:23 |
| ttx | flaper87, kgriffs: I'll let you announce it directly | 15:24 |
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| morganfainberg | dolphm, ping | 15:26 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | ttx, awesome, thank you! | 15:28 |
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| dolphm | morganfainberg: pong | 15:30 |
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| morganfainberg | dolphm, the oauth plugin change was based upon keystone.conf.sample having it explicitly configured | 15:30 |
| morganfainberg | vs. in test overrides.conf | 15:30 |
| dolphm | morganfainberg: yeah, but in keystone.config it wasn't included by default | 15:31 |
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| morganfainberg | dolphm, correct. i'll move it to test_overrides.conf then | 15:31 |
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| morganfainberg | dolphm, we just had a discrepancy and i corrected it the opposite way you wanted ;) | 15:31 |
| morganfainberg | dolphm, nbd, next patchset will have it flipped | 15:31 |
| dolphm | morganfainberg: understood | 15:31 |
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| bknudson | morganfainberg: that's already done in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/66247/ | 15:32 |
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| dolphm | morganfainberg: i also assigned you some other bp yesterday... let me know if you don't want it | 15:32 |
| morganfainberg | dolphm, will check it out | 15:32 |
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| morganfainberg | bknudson, that cleanup patch may not be needed. | 15:32 |
| dolphm | morganfainberg: also, how achievable is parallel testing in icehouse? | 15:33 |
| morganfainberg | dolphm, the biggest hurdle is the BaseLDAP thing. | 15:33 |
| dolphm | morganfainberg: ? | 15:33 |
| morganfainberg | dolphm, it requires making it so you don't need to store the config value on the LDAP object. | 15:34 |
| morganfainberg | dolphm, right now when you instantiate an LDAP object it grabs config values and stores them locally. means we need to "reload backends" in some tests | 15:34 |
| morganfainberg | dolphm, and that is a blocker for getting load_backends to be called exactly 1 time per test. | 15:34 |
| bknudson | is this a known problem? | 15:34 |
| bknudson | 2014-01-23 15:12:49.175 29543 ERROR heat.common.keystoneclient [-] Failed to add user heat-tempest-519805708-CfnUser-zlyjf7cyikx3 to role heat_stack_user, check role exists! | 15:34 |
| dolphm | morganfainberg: locally on the ldap driver instance? | 15:34 |
| morganfainberg | dolphm, on the driver instance. | 15:35 |
| morganfainberg | dolphm, correct. | 15:35 |
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| morganfainberg | dolphm, http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/keystone/tree/keystone/common/ldap/core.py#n137 | 15:35 |
| dolphm | morganfainberg: how do you want to reference config then, look it up from CONF at runtime? | 15:35 |
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| morganfainberg | dolphm, yes, like everything else does. unfortunately, that breaks henrynash's per-domain backend things further. | 15:36 |
| dolphm | morganfainberg: shortest path == start turning those into @property's? | 15:36 |
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| morganfainberg | dolphm, yep. | 15:36 |
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| morganfainberg | dolphm, the solution i was going to aim for was to hold onto the conf ref on the object and make it @property's | 15:37 |
| morganfainberg | dolphm, work on further cleanup once we're past that | 15:37 |
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| dolphm | morganfainberg: wouldn't setting self.CONF on __init__() workaround that? | 15:37 |
| dolphm | morganfainberg: which it kinda does but it copies values out rather than holding a ref to the CONF object | 15:38 |
| morganfainberg | dolphm, yep, and as long as we make it @property to grab the info. | 15:38 |
| morganfainberg | dolphm, oh wait no | 15:38 |
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| morganfainberg | dolphm, actually, just realized that can be worked around w/o changing that object | 15:38 |
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| morganfainberg | just need to change the order of test spin up and split some tests into new objects so setUp does config changes not the test itself. | 15:39 |
| morganfainberg | dolphm, nvm, not as big a hurdle | 15:39 |
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| dolphm | morganfainberg: that sounds like a bigger headache from here lol | 15:39 |
| morganfainberg | dolphm, nah, it's making a new subclass with setUp doing the right thing. | 15:40 |
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| morganfainberg | dolphm, so instead of a ldap test itself setting the config and then calling "load_backends" again or "reload_backends", setUp() would make the change. i think it's 3 or so new test classes. | 15:40 |
| morganfainberg | it doesn't happen a whole lot (nor with much variation) | 15:41 |
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| morganfainberg | dolphm, i think it's totally doable. ephemeral tokens, was that the one you assigned me? | 15:42 |
| dolphm | morganfainberg: yes | 15:43 |
| morganfainberg | dolphm, sure i'll take that one. | 15:43 |
| dolphm | morganfainberg: you have 5 bp's for icehouse-3 though :-/ | 15:43 |
| morganfainberg | dolphm, the keystone caching expansion might not happen | 15:43 |
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| dolphm | morganfainberg: let's cut that now then | 15:43 |
| morganfainberg | dolphm, that requires the cleanup on grant tables | 15:43 |
| morganfainberg | dolphm, and afaict that hasn't been started | 15:43 |
| dolphm | morganfainberg: or make it ongoin | 15:43 |
| dolphm | g | 15:43 |
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| morganfainberg | dolphm, ++ ongoing is good | 15:43 |
| dolphm | morganfainberg: i'll set the dep then | 15:44 |
| morganfainberg | dolphm, that one can just linger until we are happy with it. i expect it will not be complete until juno or even K because it's a huge scope | 15:44 |
| morganfainberg | this weekend should be lots of code. kvs is just cleaning up comments at this point and posting revisions, | 15:45 |
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| dolphm | morganfainberg: i was going to say... alternatively break it down into identity-caching, assignment-caching, etc | 15:45 |
| morganfainberg | ephemeral tokens should be straight forward(ish) | 15:45 |
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| morganfainberg | dolphm, ooh, thats probably even better. | 15:45 |
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| morganfainberg | dolphm, still likely will be J before it'll be close enough to 100% to be done. so yes, either case (split it up or "ongoing") lets punt it from I-3 | 15:47 |
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| morganfainberg | dolphm, https://blueprints.launchpad.net/keystone/+spec/no-tokens-in-db that might be a duplicate now | 15:48 |
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| dolphm | oops, that's reduce-token-duration + ephemeral-pki-tokens | 15:50 |
| morganfainberg | yep | 15:50 |
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| morganfainberg | dolphm, i'm marking the "reuse token" bug as invalid since we're moving towards ephemeral tokens. | 15:52 |
| dolphm | morganfainberg: cool | 15:53 |
| morganfainberg | dolphm, i also marked the associated BP as superceeded | 15:53 |
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| dolphm | morganfainberg: that word is impossible to spell btw | 15:53 |
| morganfainberg | dolphm, lol yah | 15:53 |
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| morganfainberg | dolphm, ok i'm headed into the office here. talk in a bit (or have code to be reviewed) | 15:57 |
| morganfainberg | :) | 15:57 |
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| morganfainberg | dolphm, oh also external was by default enabled as a plugin auth module | 15:57 |
| morganfainberg | dolphm, so i'm going to leave that one in. | 15:57 |
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| morganfainberg | dolphm, unless we want to explicitly disable it. | 15:57 |
| dolphm | morganfainberg: ++ we talked about removing it, but there wasn't a strong argument either way | 15:57 |
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| morganfainberg | bknudson, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/68551/ based upon talks at the hackathon | 15:58 |
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| morganfainberg | bknudson, might supersede the "Cleanup" sample config | 15:58 |
| ayoung | So is Zuul stuck again? | 15:58 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, i hope not | 15:58 |
| bknudson | morganfainberg: these changes are not backwards compatible | 15:58 |
| morganfainberg | bknudson, how are they not? | 15:59 |
| morganfainberg | bknudson, it supports the "old" style explicitly | 15:59 |
| bknudson | morganfainberg: we keep the old style? | 15:59 |
| ayoung | there are some patches approved awhile ago that are just sitting there... | 15:59 |
| morganfainberg | bknudson, yep, if the methods are specified, i use that instead of plugins option | 15:59 |
| bknudson | morganfainberg: ok. I'll abandon my patches | 15:59 |
| dolphm | ayoung: links? | 15:59 |
| ayoung | coming up | 15:59 |
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| ayoung | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/68233/ | 15:59 |
| ayoung | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/68234/ | 16:00 |
| morganfainberg | bknudson, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/68551/1/keystone/auth/controllers.py line 43 | 16:00 |
| morganfainberg | (new file) | 16:00 |
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| dolphm | ayoung: that's gating | 16:00 |
| morganfainberg | bknudson, it would have been much easier to make it incompatible ;) | 16:00 |
| ayoung | I was hoping to have them in otherwise I have to redo a handful of review requests to depend on them | 16:00 |
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| ayoung | Its been a couple of days | 16:00 |
| dolphm | ayoung: that's just load | 16:00 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, we're back up to 19h for things to gate. | 16:00 |
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| morganfainberg | ayoung, so, it's slow getting things through | 16:01 |
| ayoung | they were approved more than that ago, I thought | 16:01 |
| dolphm | morganfainberg: that's because the gate was reset -- i don't think we've established a new queue time yet | 16:01 |
| morganfainberg | dolphm, ah. | 16:01 |
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| dolphm | ayoung: gate was reset ^ hence the time-in-gate is innaccurate | 16:01 |
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| bknudson | morganfainberg: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/66247/ has some other changes in it, so I'll rebase on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/68551 | 16:01 |
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| ayoung | OK, so long as things are moving. | 16:01 |
| bknudson | morganfainberg: should I also abandon https://review.openstack.org/#/c/66477/2 ? | 16:02 |
| dolphm | morganfainberg: it appeared to be 16 hours, as of 3 hours ago ;) | 16:02 |
| bknudson | or rebase it? | 16:02 |
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| ayoung | Since gyee had some comments on the notfications, I'm going to rebase on top of that one anyway... | 16:02 |
| morganfainberg | bknudson, hm. your call, i think we can safely abandon it. | 16:02 |
| bknudson | morganfainberg: we don't want to document config options? | 16:02 |
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| morganfainberg | bknudson, shouldn't we document in configuration.rst instead (i know my caching options have tons of comments) | 16:03 |
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| morganfainberg | bknudson, i wont say we shouldn't comment in sample.conf though, so ... | 16:03 |
| bknudson | morganfainberg: deployers aren't reading configuration.rst. | 16:03 |
| morganfainberg | bknudson, ok lets keep that one then | 16:03 |
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| morganfainberg | bknudson, or i can add it to mine and co-author you? | 16:03 |
| dolphm | we have 25 changes in the gate by my count, eek | 16:04 |
| bknudson | morganfainberg: either way works for me... if you add docs to yours then I'll just abandon mine. | 16:04 |
| morganfainberg | bknudson, i'll add docs to mine, i have a new patchset comming | 16:05 |
| morganfainberg | bknudson, coming* | 16:05 |
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| morganfainberg | bknudson, (as soon as i hit the office today) | 16:05 |
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| dolphm | so 23% of gate's load is currently keystone-related | 16:05 |
| morganfainberg | dolphm, don't know if i'm proud of us...or horrified :P | 16:05 |
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| dolphm | morganfainberg: same | 16:05 |
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| morganfainberg | dolphm, and what, 75% of those changes are bknudson's? ;) | 16:08 |
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| dolphm | morganfainberg: 9 are authored by bknudson, so 39% | 16:10 |
| dolphm | bknudson: you're personally responsible for 8.4% of the current gate load | 16:11 |
| bknudson | dolphm: I actually approved those on Sun hoping that they'd be through the gate by Mon morning | 16:11 |
| dolphm | bknudson: ha | 16:11 |
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| devananda | ttx: yep! go for it | 16:13 |
| ttx | woohoo | 16:14 |
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| ayoung | and now I can't rebase without dumping the Keystone gating jobs | 16:17 |
| ayoung | dolphm, that 23% is latent | 16:17 |
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| ayoung | we had a lot of work done recently | 16:18 |
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| dolphm | ayoung: please don't rebase gating changes! | 16:18 |
| ayoung | I'm not | 16:18 |
| dolphm | ayoung: git-review --no-rebase | 16:18 |
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| ayoung | I did better than that | 16:18 |
| ayoung | git push gerrit HEAD:refs/for/master | 16:18 |
| ayoung | *only* pushes the head of the current tree | 16:18 |
| ayoung | it was rebased on top of a change that is gating... | 16:19 |
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| ayoung | hmmm | 16:19 |
| dolphm | ayoung: i finally stopped using that recently in favor of --no-rebase ... haven't had a hiccup since | 16:19 |
| ayoung | I did last week | 16:19 |
| ayoung | hmmm | 16:19 |
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| ttx | devananda: all set at https://launchpad.net/ironic/+milestone/icehouse-2 | 16:19 |
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| ttx | devananda: will let you announce it | 16:19 |
| devananda | ttx: awesome! | 16:20 |
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| ayoung | dolphm, if things stay as crowded in Gate as we are seeing now, I am going to propose that we introduce an interim branch. Call it the PTL branch. Instead of gating one patch at a time, the PTL decides when to push merge their branch to master, and merges a chunk of patches at once. Doesn';t have to always be like this, but it is something we can do when the load gets high, near milestones and the like. | 16:27 |
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| ayoung | so a patch goes submited-> check runs -> approvale -> merge to PTL.....then PTL merges on your schedule. Could be automated once a day or more often, but also could be done less frequently | 16:29 |
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| dolphm | ayoung: in other words, squash brants patchsets post-review before submitting to the gate | 16:31 |
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| ayoung | yep | 16:32 |
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| ayoung | dolphm, that is the Git model that the Linux Kernel work flow uses, IIUC | 16:33 |
| ayoung | you don't have to actually squash the patchs, just merge more than one patch at a time | 16:33 |
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| dolphm | ayoung: that makes the master git history impossible to unwind | 16:34 |
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| ayoung | No...the PTL branch is only ever branched off of Master, and merges back in to master | 16:34 |
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| ayoung | you have a serioes of merges from PTL to master, but no other paths in, except maybe a revoke if something goes pear shaped | 16:35 |
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| bknudson | another approach is to try to get our keystone changes submitted and merged well before the milestone | 16:36 |
| ayoung | we basically have that no, just with one "real" commit per merge commit. With PTL it would be a series of commits per merge | 16:36 |
| ayoung | bknudson, there is no such thing | 16:36 |
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| ayoung | we are already handicapping ourselves with the API freeze at M2. Do you really want to reduce further the amount of time we have to innovate? | 16:37 |
| bknudson | and to help out the infra team and other teams when there's gate problems. | 16:37 |
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| ayoung | this would do that | 16:37 |
| ayoung | we would run fewer gate jobs | 16:37 |
| bknudson | gate jobs aren't a problem | 16:38 |
| bknudson | it's failures | 16:38 |
| ayoung | because they cascade | 16:38 |
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| ayoung | gyee, I need to make progress on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/68548/ Are you going to hold fast on your position? | 16:40 |
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| dolphm | ayoung: you have the same amount of time either way | 16:41 |
| gyee | ayoung, I am not sure keep adding sub events is a good idea | 16:42 |
| ayoung | gyee, I can see where you are coming from, but I think disable is different from update | 16:43 |
| gyee | can we put the resource ref onto the payload? that would give us more flexibility | 16:43 |
| ayoung | I was thinking that. Slippery slope | 16:43 |
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| ayoung | for update, maybe put the changed fields, but then the remote services need to know the semantics of "disable" | 16:43 |
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| gyee | ayoung, but if we put the resource ref onto the payload, callbacks can just exam the ref to figure out what has changed right? | 16:44 |
| ayoung | gyee, I don't like how we are currently doing disable via update. In the past, I advocated for using the DELETE HTTP verb to disable something if you did not want to immediately remove it. But regardless, disable should be a first class notification | 16:45 |
| dolphm | gyee: then you're exposing a second, very large, "stable" API | 16:45 |
| ayoung | shudder | 16:45 |
| gyee | dolphm, not sure if I understand | 16:45 |
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| gyee | the payload of the notification | 16:45 |
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| dolphm | gyee: is an API | 16:46 |
| ayoung | gyee, yes, that now can't change | 16:46 |
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| dolphm | gyee: i'd rather not tie it directly to the v3 API | 16:46 |
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| gyee | dolphm, I see what you mean now | 16:46 |
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| ayoung | Dolph do you agree with the basica approach on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/68548/ ? | 16:47 |
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| gyee | ayoung, what I am afraid of is later we have to keep adding stuff like assignment, group membership, etc | 16:48 |
| bknudson | to not tie it to the v3 API, you'd need a way to extract the fields that were changed. | 16:49 |
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| bknudson | from the ref | 16:49 |
| ayoung | gyee, I'd arguethat it is better to add a new notification type that includes only a single value than to increase the scope of what has to be done either producing or consuming a notification | 16:49 |
| gyee | bknudson, yeah, one alternative would be to do a resource lookup using the id from the payload | 16:49 |
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| ayoung | so if group memebership could be done with a single ID, ...well it probably would be a create or delete | 16:49 |
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| ayoung | gyee, that is expensive. You are talking Database calls | 16:50 |
| gyee | ayoung, I am aware of that | 16:50 |
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| bknudson | gyee: extract it from the ref before notifying, rather than pass the ref itself | 16:50 |
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| bknudson | then when v4 comes along it'll extract the field from its ref representation | 16:50 |
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| gyee | I would think create and update are low volume API calls | 16:50 |
| dolphm | bknudson: and the attribute name will change with v4 and those depending on v3 semantics will be broken | 16:51 |
| ayoung | role assignment can be done as create delete | 16:51 |
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| ayoung | disable is semantically like "DELETE light" | 16:51 |
| ayoung | and enable is like "CREATE light" | 16:51 |
| bknudson | the v4 notification handler will translate the attribute name to whatever notification expects. | 16:51 |
| dolphm | ayoung: that's why they're both handled as updates... they're changes of state rather than terminal events | 16:52 |
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| ayoung | Yes, but they are crosscutting concerns. The revocation code doesn't care about the structure of the objects involved. It shouldn't know the layout of a Domain object to be able to revoke domain based tokens | 16:53 |
| dolphm | ayoung: disable notifications + disable required prior to deletion would be a useful combination | 16:53 |
| dolphm | API-wide | 16:53 |
| ayoung | ++ | 16:53 |
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| ayoung | DELETE could return a 202 the first time to disable. | 16:57 |
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| gyee | dolphm, ayoung, sure require disable prior to deletion sound reasonable | 16:58 |
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| dolphm | ayoung: that's not very idempotent | 16:58 |
| ayoung | gyee, we already do that for domains, which is why I needed this. It is the disable event that revokes token | 16:58 |
| ayoung | dolphm, I know | 16:58 |
| ayoung | dolphm, maybe the second DELETE needs an additional value to say "yes I mean it" | 16:59 |
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| dolphm | ayoung: still not idempotent | 16:59 |
| gyee | heh, and 24hr waiting period | 16:59 |
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| ayoung | dolphm, DELETE could return an URL to use to really delete | 17:00 |
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| ayoung | DELETE http://host/v4/users/abc123 returns http://host/v4/disabled/users/abc123 | 17:01 |
| ayoung | to clean up then you do DELETE http://host/v4/disabled/users/abc123 | 17:01 |
| gyee | ayoung, nah, that's too much | 17:02 |
| ayoung | if you do a get on http://host/v4/users/abc123 once it is disabled it has an additional link in it | 17:02 |
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| gyee | just return a 403 for deleting an enabled resource | 17:02 |
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| ayoung | gyee, its not much different than the "trash" icon on the desktop | 17:02 |
| gyee | ayoung, but that's UI magic | 17:03 |
| ayoung | gyee, anyway, are you OK with the current approach? | 17:03 |
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| gyee | sure, if we insist on disable prior to deletion, that would essentially make disable a first class citizen | 17:04 |
| ayoung | ++ | 17:04 |
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| morganfainberg | ayoung, gyee, just caught up | 17:05 |
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| morganfainberg | yes. 403 on non-disabled resource = good imo | 17:05 |
| gyee | morganfainberg, ++ | 17:05 |
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| morganfainberg | it might take some adoption time | 17:05 |
| morganfainberg | but i do like it. we already do that on domaisn | 17:05 |
| ayoung | morganfainberg, we already do that for domains | 17:05 |
| morganfainberg | domains* | 17:05 |
| ayoung | heh | 17:05 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, lol yeah ;) | 17:06 |
| morganfainberg | consistency is good in approach | 17:06 |
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| ayoung | morganfainberg, you ok with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/68548/ ? | 17:06 |
| gyee | morganfainberg, I am a bit agonizing over this as well. I would think disable prior to deletion is a deployment decision | 17:06 |
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| morganfainberg | ayoung looking now | 17:07 |
| ayoung | gyee, can you remove the -1 on it if you are OK with the approach. | 17:07 |
| gyee | how are getting close to mandating deployment policies | 17:07 |
| gyee | ayoung, sure | 17:07 |
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| morganfainberg | gyee, eh, personally no. i think it should be a project driven approach. if we want to make it a deployment decision, we should make it toggle-able, but having different behaviors between resources (domain, project, user, etc) is painful | 17:08 |
| morganfainberg | heck, i think that we nuke the row in the DB is bad. | 17:08 |
| ayoung | gyee, the thought was that on domain, deleting the domain deleted all the users, and that was a big deal. Disable was what most people wanted: don't allow anyone in that domain to login etc. But you don't want to dump the user list. Deleting was costly | 17:08 |
| morganfainberg | if we want audit trails, we shouldn't do that | 17:08 |
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| ayoung | audit is going to need the notifications, and they are going to look somewhat different, aren't they? Roles based operations are going to have to specify userid, roleid, and project/domainid | 17:09 |
| gyee | ayoung, yeah, we sort of let the cat out for the domain deletion policy | 17:09 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, i'd say disable is what most people want in all cases (esp. if usernames are domain scope) | 17:09 |
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| morganfainberg | domain scope constrained | 17:10 |
| ayoung | morganfainberg, hence my digression about the DELETE verb being used | 17:10 |
| ayoung | DELETE -> move to the disabled list | 17:10 |
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| morganfainberg | ayoung, yeah | 17:10 |
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| ayoung | But that is a 4.0 decision now. | 17:10 |
| gyee | morganfainberg, yeah, deployment-wise, nobody just going to delete stuff | 17:10 |
| morganfainberg | ok, i'm looking at that review now, then i have a ton of code to write. | 17:10 |
| ayoung | ++ | 17:11 |
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| gyee | usually done as part of workflow | 17:11 |
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| morganfainberg | ayoung, we aren't notifying on update for domains? | 17:11 |
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| ayoung | morganfainberg, we are, but we don't have enough data to know that it is a disable. We would need to duplicate the disable check in the notified object, and it does not belong there | 17:13 |
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| ayoung | the revoke code would then be responsible for looking up the object in the back end and checking the state | 17:13 |
| morganfainberg | we have update on project and in some cases you'll see project -> updated, project -> disabled | 17:13 |
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| morganfainberg | due to one call with your logic | 17:13 |
| gyee | morganfainberg, the only thing in the payload is the resource ID | 17:14 |
| morganfainberg | gyee, you still see action-type | 17:14 |
| ayoung | morganfainberg, yes, they are both triggered by the same call, and it is possible that the same sink would request both notifications | 17:14 |
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| ayoung | wonder how useful update will be in practice | 17:14 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, yesh, my point was that domain doens't behave like project does in this case | 17:14 |
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| morganfainberg | s/doens't/doesn't | 17:15 |
| ayoung | morganfainberg, I would think that a client would decide whether to request notifications on update or on disable | 17:15 |
| ayoung | not both | 17:15 |
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| morganfainberg | ayoung, correct, so are we going to notify on domain update? | 17:15 |
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| ayoung | morganfainberg, that notifications already exists, I think, just that revoke doesn't care about it yet | 17:16 |
| ayoung | probably won't | 17:16 |
| gyee | ayoung is advocating adding the D to CRUD :) | 17:16 |
| gyee | create, read, update, delete, and disable | 17:16 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/68548/2/keystone/assignment/core.py line 301, U is missing from the notifications on domain | 17:17 |
| morganfainberg | gyee, ^ U from CRUD | 17:17 |
| ayoung | morganfainberg, add it when needed. | 17:17 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, ok | 17:17 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, -1 only for the same reasons stevemar pointed out (gating change that would conflict) | 17:18 |
| dolphm | bknudson: left a comment on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/66137/ ... i'm happy to revise the tests if you agree | 17:18 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, otherwise no issues. | 17:18 |
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| bknudson | dolphm: I figured the tests were that way because of something RAX did. | 17:19 |
| tellesnobrega | henrynash: can i still use project_id to filter user actions in this new policy.json? i would like to get a user, but it would only allow if the user is in the project that the requester is admin | 17:19 |
| bknudson | dolphm: so if the keystoneclient should only support strings for ids then I'd be fine with changing the tests | 17:19 |
| dolphm | bknudson: i find it odd that the client is expected to handle something other than strings as input... all id's are spec'd as strings, even if they're implemented as auto-incrementing ints or whatever | 17:20 |
| bknudson | dolphm: seems like it would be non-backwards compatible, though. | 17:20 |
| dolphm | bknudson: agree, for the corner case that you're running against an implementation exposing ints to the JSON api? | 17:20 |
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| dolphm | bknudson: or you're running against a deployment that uses ints in the backend, and the client mistakenly thinks it can convert strings to ints itself | 17:21 |
| morganfainberg | so i commented dolphm, making str() the type we expect is fine imo | 17:21 |
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| bknudson | dolphm: right, that's what I was thinking... my application using the keystoneclient thinks it can pass ints ... or maybe even some type of object that can turn into a string. | 17:21 |
| morganfainberg | dolphm, but for compat reasons i'll defer to your judgement...the pitchfork wielding angry mob will be coming to talk to you first. | 17:21 |
| dolphm | bknudson: the burden should be on your code to cast to strings, IMO | 17:22 |
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| dolphm | morganfainberg: lol | 17:22 |
| dolphm | morganfainberg: bknudson: what about logging a warning if not isinstance(s, basestring) ? | 17:23 |
| bknudson | morganfainberg: you don't get pitchfork-wielding mobs coming at you when keystone doesn't work? | 17:23 |
| dolphm | before trying to convert to a string | 17:23 |
| morganfainberg | bknudson, nah, my company is small. | 17:23 |
| morganfainberg | bknudson, we can't afford pitchforks... or a mob yet | 17:23 |
| dolphm | (there's only one pitchfork, and morganfainberg keeps it locked up) | 17:23 |
| bknudson | morganfainberg: ok... well, now you know why I review things so closely | 17:23 |
| morganfainberg | bknudson, :) | 17:23 |
| morganfainberg | bknudson, and i rarely disagree with your reasoning | 17:24 |
| morganfainberg | dolphm, warning would be a good middleground | 17:24 |
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| morganfainberg | dolphm, also @deprecated is really only functional as a decorator afaict | 17:25 |
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| morganfainberg | the __call__ method on it is strictly for functools stuff. | 17:25 |
| dolphm | morganfainberg: hmm... maybe that got dropped in the move to oslo | 17:25 |
| dolphm | morganfainberg: you *should* be able to call it for exactly this situation | 17:25 |
| morganfainberg | dolphm, i don't disagree | 17:25 |
| morganfainberg | dstanek, ^ | 17:25 |
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| morganfainberg | dolphm, but we don't have that yet, so. going to keep it as is? want me to put "K" release in the message? | 17:26 |
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| dolphm | morganfainberg: up to you | 17:27 |
| dolphm | morganfainberg: i don't think that was the reason for my -1 on whatever patch that was lol | 17:27 |
| morganfainberg | dolphm, adding "and will be removed in K" just for clarity | 17:27 |
| morganfainberg | dolphm, nah, was oauth plugin. | 17:27 |
| morganfainberg | i am fixing that might as well make message better | 17:27 |
| dstanek | morganfainberg: reading back...how far? | 17:27 |
| morganfainberg | dstanek, @deprecated like 5 lines? | 17:28 |
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| dstanek | morganfainberg, dolphm: how would you want to use it? | 17:29 |
| morganfainberg | dstanek, deprecated.log_deprecated(<args>) | 17:29 |
| morganfainberg | dstanek, or similar | 17:29 |
| morganfainberg | dstanek, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/68551/1/keystone/auth/controllers.py line 45 (new file) | 17:29 |
| morganfainberg | is an example of what would be good to provide it for | 17:29 |
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| morganfainberg | dstanek, dolphm , i guess i could leave this on the config.setup_authentication bit | 17:31 |
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| morganfainberg | the @deprecated decorator instead of where the message is now | 17:31 |
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| dstanek | morganfainberg: you 'could' reuse the decorator, but i don't think it would be pretty | 17:33 |
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| ayoung | stevemar, lbragstad so...I see the trusts notifications are going in without the extension name on them. I wonder if that is a mistake? | 17:35 |
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| * lbragstad checking | 17:36 | |
| ayoung | I can drop that from my patch | 17:36 |
| ayoung | lbragstad, 'trust' as opposed to 'OS-TRUST:trust: | 17:36 |
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| ayoung | lbragstad, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/68548/2/keystone/trust/core.py | 17:37 |
| garyk | ttx: ping | 17:37 |
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| lbragstad | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/66719/10/keystone/trust/core.py | 17:37 |
| ayoung | lbragstad, yeah, I saw | 17:37 |
| lbragstad | yeah, if you're ok with 'trust' then you can drop that from your patch ayoung | 17:38 |
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| ayoung | lbragstad, I think we need the namespace for extensions. With OAUTH we have consumer and access_token | 17:40 |
| ayoung | consumer is a pretty generic term | 17:40 |
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| ayoung | lbragstad, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/68548/2/keystone/contrib/oauth1/core.py | 17:40 |
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| lbragstad | ayoung: you want the same with trusts, the extension added | 17:41 |
| ayoung | trust could also be Kerberos Cross domain trusts in the future | 17:41 |
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| ayoung | lbragstad, I think so. We can wait until your patch gates, then rebase. I assume it is shardy that needs the notifications from yours? | 17:41 |
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| lbragstad | I can push something up to, it is only a couple lines | 17:42 |
| tellesnobrega | whats is the command for listing users for a project? the one on the documentation gives me not found | 17:42 |
| ayoung | lbragstad, I can commit mine on top of yours to avoid resetting the gate | 17:43 |
| ayoung | so long as you and the other interested parties are aware | 17:43 |
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| lbragstad | ayoung: ok, as long as you're ok with it. Yeah that makes sense to me | 17:43 |
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| annegentle | tellesnobrega: do you have admin privs in your environment? are you using http://docs.openstack.org/user-guide-admin/content/admin_cli_manage_projects_users.html | 17:44 |
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| tellesnobrega | annegentle: i do, im using the rest api, i get response up to get_project, but when i try to list the user it gives me not found. the URL is v3/project/${project_id}/users | 17:46 |
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| lbragstad | ayoung: wondering if something should be added to the docs for this? Just to avoid confusion between https://github.com/openstack/keystone/blob/master/keystone/identity/core.py#L322 and using extension namespace in the resource type? | 17:47 |
| morganfainberg | dstanek, ok so i'm hitting that baffling tox issue again | 17:47 |
| morganfainberg | dstanek, but i think this is all related to the re-emergence of run_tests. | 17:47 |
| lbragstad | ayoung: resources from an extension perspective have to use the extension name | 17:48 |
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| dstanek | morganfainberg: are you using run_tests.sh? | 17:48 |
| morganfainberg | dstanek, run_tests shows that we have an error and it's that baffling _StringException again | 17:49 |
| morganfainberg | no context | 17:49 |
| morganfainberg | dstanek, tox just ... | 17:49 |
| morganfainberg | dstanek, fails silently | 17:49 |
| dstanek | morganfainberg: do you have a patch that i can download and try? | 17:49 |
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| morganfainberg | dstanek, let me push it to github. | 17:49 |
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| morganfainberg | dstanek, https://github.com/morganfainberg/keystone/commit/0118a778bad9ce03d894ed691e3129ed8c716b0e | 17:51 |
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| morganfainberg | dstanek, it's failing on keystone.tests.test_catalog.V2CatalogTestCase.test_endpoint_create | 17:51 |
| stevemar | ayoung, lbragstad, yeah, i guess we missed the OS-TRUST part not being there initially, | 17:51 |
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| morganfainberg | dstanek, Traceback (most recent call last): | 17:51 |
| morganfainberg | _StringException | 17:51 |
| stevemar | ayoung, you can change that part up in your patch | 17:52 |
| morganfainberg | dstanek, i'm sure i'm doing something dumb. | 17:52 |
| morganfainberg | oh | 17:52 |
| morganfainberg | i know what it is. | 17:52 |
| dstanek | morganfainberg: ? | 17:52 |
| morganfainberg | i think | 17:52 |
| morganfainberg | oh nope | 17:52 |
| morganfainberg | nvm, | 17:52 |
| morganfainberg | it's not in my new test | 17:52 |
| stevemar | ayoung, update the doc too then :) https://review.openstack.org/#/c/66719/10/doc/source/event_notifications.rst | 17:52 |
| morganfainberg | dstanek, so yeah, i'm kindof baffled. | 17:52 |
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| morganfainberg | dstanek, whopse | 17:54 |
| dstanek | morganfainberg: how long does it take to fail? | 17:54 |
| morganfainberg | missing a file | 17:54 |
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| morganfainberg | but my test run has it i think | 17:54 |
| morganfainberg | sec | 17:54 |
| lbragstad | stevemar: ayoung I think so too, | 17:54 |
| lbragstad | ayoung: if you want I can push up a patch for the docs. | 17:55 |
| morganfainberg | dstanek, it does almost a full test run | 17:55 |
| morganfainberg | dstanek, and all files claim to be there, so nvm on missing file | 17:55 |
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| dstanek | morganfainberg: it's running... | 17:56 |
| dstanek | morganfainberg: worst idea ever ;-) http://paste.openstack.org/raw/61775/ | 17:57 |
| morganfainberg | dstanek, oh god | 17:57 |
| morganfainberg | dstanek, noooooooooooooooo | 17:57 |
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| kgriffs | ttx: is openstack-announce only for integrated projects? | 17:58 |
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| sdake | kgriffs we did incubated announcements there as well | 17:59 |
| kgriffs | ttx: just wondering if I need/should put out a marconi i-2 announcement to one of the lists | 17:59 |
| kgriffs | sdake: mmm, I didn't see it here: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-announce/2014-January/000187.html | 18:00 |
| kgriffs | or here | 18:00 |
| kgriffs | http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-announce/2014-January/date.html | 18:00 |
| kgriffs | am I looking in the wrong place? | 18:00 |
| sdake | kgriffs this was about a year ago, maybe ttx has changed the policy | 18:00 |
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| sgran | any glance devs about? | 18:15 |
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| sgran | I'd appreciate it if someone could look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/67025/ (simple bugfix backport to havana) | 18:15 |
| dstanek | morganfainberg: i get crazy results under nose too | 18:15 |
| sgran | I know the gate is sad, I just want to make sure that I don't need to do more there | 18:15 |
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| morganfainberg | dstanek, something _very_ strange is going on | 18:17 |
| morganfainberg | dstanek, it is absolutely somthing to do with my code, but this is very very very odd | 18:17 |
| dstanek | morganfainberg: does this look familiar to you? http://paste.openstack.org/show/61778/ | 18:21 |
| morganfainberg | loading.... | 18:21 |
| morganfainberg | loading.... | 18:21 |
| morganfainberg | dstanek, yeah that looks "sane" | 18:22 |
| morganfainberg | dstanek, that is a correct error if it's being loaded more than once (external that is) | 18:22 |
| dstanek | morganfainberg: but i wouldn't expect that from running: .tox/py27/bin/nosetests keystone/tests/test_[a]*.py | 18:22 |
| morganfainberg | dstanek, nor would i | 18:22 |
| morganfainberg | dstanek, it should be impossible to load it more than once barring a baaaadly configured something | 18:23 |
| morganfainberg | i use a global to gate running load_plugins more than once. | 18:23 |
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| dstanek | morganfainberg: what about if auth methods are loaded in a test and later auth plugins are loaded? | 18:25 |
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| dstanek | morganfainberg: like maybe in test_auth_plugin.py | 18:27 |
| morganfainberg | dstanek, the old lazy-loading auth-plugins was bad | 18:27 |
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| morganfainberg | dstanek, it shouldn't be possible though. | 18:27 |
| morganfainberg | dstanek, i have an explicit "IF PLUGINS_LOADED" check so that whole logic is skipped | 18:27 |
| morganfainberg | dstanek, and test_auth_plugin explicitkly clears the registry, so it should be fine | 18:29 |
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| tellesnobrega | morganfainberg: hey, can you help me out with some questions about keystone v3 api and policy.json? | 18:35 |
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| morganfainberg | tellesnobrega, i can try | 18:37 |
| morganfainberg | tellesnobrega, no guatantees though | 18:37 |
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| morganfainberg | dstanek, i can't tell you why it's broken... this test shouldn't fail :( | 18:38 |
| tellesnobrega | morganfainberg: sure, the thing is, I'm using the new policy, policy.v3cloudsample.json, but most of the rules involve only domain restriction, I'm trying to verify if using project_id restrictions still work in some cases, for example, i want to create a user in a project, and for that i'm using a admin user on this same project, and set the policy with this rule "identity:create_user": "rule:admin_required and project_id:%(user.project_id)s | 18:39 |
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| tellesnobrega | morganfainberg: but when i try to create the user i get the output that i dont have authorization to create the user | 18:40 |
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| morganfainberg | tellesnobrega, i, unfortunately, don't know off the top of my head henrynash knows a lot more about that | 18:48 |
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| morganfainberg | tellesnobrega, i don't see why project restrictions wouldn't work | 18:49 |
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| morganfainberg | but remember users are domain scoped, not project scoped | 18:49 |
| morganfainberg | creating a user isn't a project task | 18:49 |
| tellesnobrega | morganfainberg: i see, thanks, all actions with user now are domain scoped? | 18:50 |
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| morganfainberg | tellesnobrega, no | 18:51 |
| morganfainberg | tellesnobrega, users exist within a domain | 18:51 |
| morganfainberg | tellesnobrega, so "creating a user" is doing so for the domain | 18:51 |
| tellesnobrega | morganfainberg: how about update, delete? also for the domain? | 18:52 |
| morganfainberg | tellesnobrega, ok, so domain is a container for things | 18:53 |
| morganfainberg | tellesnobrega, updating a user is updating a specific user. | 18:53 |
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| morganfainberg | tellesnobrega, deleting a user is deleting a specific user (user just happens to be in a domain container) | 18:53 |
| morganfainberg | tellesnobrega, when you create a user you are creating a user "in a domain" | 18:53 |
| tellesnobrega | morganfainberg: huum, makes sense | 18:54 |
| morganfainberg | users (at least as far back as essex) never were created "in a project" | 18:54 |
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| morganfainberg | tellesnobrega, it's hard to explain :P. domains are about as clear as mud imo when describing it | 18:55 |
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| tellesnobrega | morganfainberg: i understood the big picture | 18:55 |
| morganfainberg | tellesnobrega, so i don't know what you're trying to accomplish by creating a user "in a project" | 18:56 |
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| morganfainberg | if it's assigning a role to a user, that is a different call than create_user. | 18:56 |
| morganfainberg | tellesnobrega, hope that helps set you on the right path :) | 18:56 |
| tellesnobrega | morganfainberg: im working on creating some roles, like project_admin and domain_admin , and I'm trying to figure out who should be responsible for what | 18:57 |
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| tellesnobrega | morganfainberg: it does for sure | 18:57 |
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| dstanek | morganfainberg: another question...simple-challenge-response or simple_challenge_response? | 19:07 |
| morganfainberg | dstanek, simple-challenge-response seems to break things. | 19:07 |
| morganfainberg | dstanek, like oslo.config doesn't handle it right when you pass it through the actual loader | 19:08 |
| dstanek | morganfainberg: it looks like in your patch you have both | 19:08 |
| morganfainberg | vs. just injecting it like we did before | 19:08 |
| morganfainberg | dstanek, do I? | 19:08 |
| morganfainberg | ugh. | 19:08 |
| morganfainberg | i thought i fixed that | 19:08 |
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| dstanek | test_auth_plugin.py uss _ and the config uses - | 19:09 |
| morganfainberg | dstanek, not seeing it in grep | 19:09 |
| morganfainberg | dstanek, whcih config? | 19:09 |
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| dstanek | morganfainberg: oh, wait that may be me | 19:10 |
| morganfainberg | dstanek, i pushed the changeset https://review.openstack.org/#/c/68551/ rather than just using github. | 19:10 |
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| morganfainberg | dstanek, might make it easier. | 19:10 |
| morganfainberg | (even if it fails) | 19:11 |
| tellesnobrega | henrynash: hi, how can i get the project_id when deleting a user, using the v3 api. I want to create a rule in policy using the project_id instead of domain_id | 19:11 |
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| dstanek | morganfainberg: yeah, it was me | 19:11 |
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| xmltok | im gathering stats on the kvm instances on my compute nodes, i'd like to resolve the uuid from the qemu parameters to the vm name in openstack. does anyone know if that information is stored anywhere on the compute node -- it looks like not. i'd like to avoid having to make API calls to resolve the uuids | 19:11 |
| morganfainberg | dstanek, ok phew ;) | 19:11 |
| morganfainberg | dstanek, i was suddenly very concerned. | 19:11 |
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| dstanek | morganfainberg: depending on how i run the tests i get http://paste.openstack.org/show/61781/ | 19:18 |
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| morganfainberg | dstanek, test isolation issues. but i'm not even getting that info back out | 19:19 |
| morganfainberg | dstanek, what are you using to run the tests? | 19:19 |
| morganfainberg | i'm getting _StringError | 19:19 |
| morganfainberg | no context no traceback | 19:19 |
| morganfainberg | erm no stack in the traceback | 19:19 |
| dstanek | morganfainberg: nose | 19:19 |
| morganfainberg | dstanek, run_tests is just eating it then? | 19:20 |
| dstanek | morganfainberg: had to bail on testr and go back to the tried and true nose | 19:20 |
| morganfainberg | dstanek, if you're loading simple_challenge_response and not passing the extra info, thats fine | 19:21 |
| morganfainberg | i'm getting an error in what seems to be a completely unrelated test | 19:21 |
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| morganfainberg | dstanek, ok so... maybe the auth_plugin loading can't be done in the controller | 19:33 |
| morganfainberg | dstanek, maybe it needs to be part of the backend loading code? | 19:33 |
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| morganfainberg | dstanek, ok i resolved it, changed how the plugins are loaded. | 20:03 |
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| zzelle | dhellmann, ping | 20:05 |
| dstanek | morganfainberg: nice | 20:05 |
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| morganfainberg | dstanek, hooking it into load_backends in service.py | 20:06 |
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| morganfainberg | dstanek, waaaaay cleaner | 20:06 |
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| morganfainberg | bknudson, sorry was working on test fixes shouldn't have marked that as "WIP" | 20:17 |
| morganfainberg | bknudson, addressing your comments now. | 20:17 |
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| marun | russellb: ping | 20:23 |
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| russellb | marun: pong | 20:32 |
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| marun | russellb: With the addition of docker to nova, do you see potential for testing with containers instead of vm's where possible? | 20:35 |
| marun | russellb: I'm assuming that the docker support uses nova network at present, and am wondering what it would take for neutron to be supportable as well. | 20:35 |
| russellb | you mean in the current devstack jobs? | 20:36 |
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| russellb | using docker as the backend? | 20:36 |
| russellb | technically we've had libvirt+LXC for much longer | 20:36 |
| marun | russellb: Right. And I was wondering why lxc support was removed. | 20:36 |
| russellb | it wasn't | 20:36 |
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| russellb | still there | 20:36 |
| russellb | and we can't use either in place of what we run now, because neither support nearly as much of the API as libvirt/qemu | 20:37 |
| marun | russellb: I know it wouldn't be possible to replace vm testing. | 20:37 |
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| marun | russellb: but for things like stress testing or functional testing of neutron where the additional functionality was unnecessary (resizing, etc), containers would seem like a win. | 20:37 |
| russellb | marun: for that we have a fake backend | 20:38 |
| russellb | you can use that for stressing nova+neutron | 20:38 |
| russellb | that's what the large-ops jobs use | 20:39 |
| marun | russellb: That might stress nova+neutron, but iirc that doesn't allow properly stress testing neutron because network connectivity isn't actually achieved. | 20:39 |
| marun | russellb: am I missing something? | 20:39 |
| russellb | should still hit the neutron APIs all the same though i believe | 20:39 |
| russellb | but no network traffic of course | 20:39 |
| marun | russellb: Right, no connectivity | 20:39 |
| russellb | depends on your goal i guess | 20:39 |
| russellb | stressing the control plane | 20:40 |
| marun | russellb: we need to do that too, yes. | 20:40 |
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| marun | russellb: right now we're limited in how many vm's we can boot and how fast. containers would seem to win on both counts | 20:40 |
| marun | russellb: so in my mind, containers > fakevirt for stress testing | 20:40 |
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| russellb | sure | 20:40 |
| russellb | no idea if it works though heh | 20:40 |
| marun | russellb: the question is whether it would work now or how much work it would be to get it working | 20:41 |
| marun | russellb: ah, ok | 20:41 |
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| russellb | supposed to work, but we just have no CI for it | 20:41 |
| russellb | yet | 20:41 |
| marun | russellb: who would you suggest I talk to? | 20:41 |
| bknudson | morganfainberg: having trouble merging. | 20:41 |
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| russellb | marun: if you want to try docker, talk to ewindisch | 20:42 |
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| morganfainberg | bknudson, yeah i am not sure why. is your patchset going to not merge? | 20:42 |
| bknudson | morganfainberg: must be an issue with the servers | 20:42 |
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| morganfainberg | bknudson, bleh. | 20:42 |
| marun | russellb: cool, thank you for the info and the pointer. :) | 20:42 |
| marun | ewindisch: ping | 20:42 |
| russellb | np | 20:42 |
| morganfainberg | bknudson, actually | 20:43 |
| ewindisch | marun: I"m here. I was reading the scrollback :) | 20:43 |
| morganfainberg | bknudson, i get a conflict when i rebase that chain to master | 20:43 |
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| ewindisch | marun: well, first - awesome: but we're not there yet. | 20:43 |
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| morganfainberg | bknudson, but only mine. | 20:43 |
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| morganfainberg | wtf. | 20:43 |
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| morganfainberg | i think i need to wait until yours merges down - this isn't resolvable w/o rebasing your changes. | 20:44 |
| marun | ewindisch: is there a plan to get there, where there is neutron-provided connectivity? | 20:44 |
| morganfainberg | and i don't want to yank them from the queue | 20:44 |
| morganfainberg | bknudson, ^ | 20:44 |
| ewindisch | marun: I'm working on a gate for docker in Nova. I hope to finish that before the nova mid-session meetup | 20:44 |
| morganfainberg | bknudson, since they are already gating | 20:44 |
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| bknudson | morganfainberg: ah, thanks... can still review it. | 20:44 |
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| ewindisch | marun: neutron support isn't integrated yet -- and I won't personally have cycles to spend on that until I get the gate finished | 20:45 |
| marun | ewindisch: does the current docker driver have networking provisioned by nova network? | 20:45 |
| morganfainberg | bknudson, 2 things, deprecated code from oslo doesn't work except in a decorator format atm. and i think it isn't worth making it super hacky | 20:45 |
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| ewindisch | marun: yes | 20:45 |
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| morganfainberg | bknudson, 2, i can put a helper on test.core.testcase for resetting auth plugins, but don't want to put it in auth.controllers directly (test only) | 20:45 |
| bknudson | morganfainberg: what's super-hacky about moving related code into a function? | 20:45 |
| morganfainberg | bknudson, oh i see what you want. | 20:46 |
| morganfainberg | bknudson, eh. ok | 20:46 |
| bknudson | morganfainberg: I'm fine with a helper on test.core.testcase. | 20:46 |
| bknudson | Would prefer it was a separate function in test.core. | 20:46 |
| morganfainberg | bknudson, last bit, order of plugins matters in some cases. | 20:46 |
| morganfainberg | bknudson, yeah i'll move it into a helper func on patchset 5 | 20:46 |
| zzelle | marun, russelb: perharps you could also mix fakevirt with real computes ? | 20:47 |
| bknudson | morganfainberg: if the order of plugins matters then will need to document that so that deployers know what to do. | 20:47 |
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| morganfainberg | bknudson, added that into the sample.conf | 20:47 |
| bknudson | why would the order matter? | 20:47 |
| morganfainberg | bknudson, hm, good question, but i was told it did. | 20:47 |
| zzelle | fakes are "unlimited", real ones "stress everything" | 20:47 |
| morganfainberg | bknudson, perhaps it's something to do with a method handling everything ? | 20:48 |
| bknudson | morganfainberg: gross and confusing | 20:48 |
| morganfainberg | bknudson, yeah. i don't want to change that, but order was preserved and external was always first. | 20:48 |
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| bknudson | morganfainberg: so external has to be first if it's there? | 20:49 |
| morganfainberg | bknudson, external, password, token, oauth | 20:49 |
| morganfainberg | bknudson, i am guessing so. | 20:49 |
| morganfainberg | bknudson, but... honestly, i'm playing some catchup with the auth plugins. | 20:49 |
| morganfainberg | bknudson, it's unwinding some ick. | 20:49 |
| morganfainberg | bknudson, anyway, i'll let you review and catch the couple things we just discussed in patchset 5 | 20:50 |
| bknudson | it worked fine before. | 20:50 |
| morganfainberg | bknudson, magic configuration option generation makes the test changes i am trying to get done for parallel testing very hard | 20:50 |
| bknudson | morganfainberg: does oslo.config support a different way to do it? | 20:51 |
| morganfainberg | bknudson, and i very much dislike conf options that appear out of thin-air | 20:51 |
| bknudson | (or should it?) | 20:51 |
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| morganfainberg | bknudson, i think we shouldn't be generating config options based upon another config option | 20:51 |
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| morganfainberg | bknudson, i don't think oslo is doing anything wrong | 20:51 |
| morganfainberg | bknudson, but because we define "foo" as a method we suddenly get a "foo" option we need to specify? | 20:52 |
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| morganfainberg | bknudson, it feels like it was a hack to allow lazy loading of plugins rather than load them upfront | 20:52 |
| bknudson | morganfainberg: seems pretty common... see python logging.conf | 20:52 |
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| morganfainberg | bknudson, i think that is a terrible approach in logging too :P | 20:52 |
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| marun | ewindisch: I'm afraid I lost my connection after you said that you were working on a gate for docker | 20:53 |
| marun | ewindisch: what did I miss? | 20:53 |
| bknudson | morganfainberg: ok, and because of this all our customers have to update their config files? | 20:53 |
| devoid | ping ayoung | 20:53 |
| bknudson | here come the pitchforks | 20:53 |
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| morganfainberg | bknudson, i am supporting both ways. | 20:53 |
| morganfainberg | bknudson, for now. | 20:53 |
| bknudson | when they're deprecated messages that's forcing them to change something that was working fine. | 20:53 |
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| devoid | is there a way to validate a keystone policy.json file? | 20:54 |
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| morganfainberg | bknudson, i'm fine with writing a whole bunch of stuff to work around magic options. | 20:54 |
| bknudson | this is what drives customers away from openstack and to competitors | 20:54 |
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| morganfainberg | bknudson, we did it for token providers...and anothe rchange will come there too | 20:55 |
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| ewindisch | marun: neutron support isn't integrated yet and I don't have time for that until we get the gate online. | 20:55 |
| morganfainberg | bknudson, because we'll move to a pipeline. | 20:55 |
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| marun | ewindisch: that's fine, we need nova network support first for sure | 20:56 |
| morganfainberg | bknudson, you can -2 that changeset and i'll figure some other way around it. | 20:56 |
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| ewindisch | marun: I think what is there counts as nova-network support | 20:56 |
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| ewindisch | at least, technically, once the patches in teh queue land | 20:56 |
| ewindisch | ;-) | 20:56 |
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| bknudson | morganfainberg: there are parts of it that I like... | 20:56 |
| marun | ewindisch: do you have a sense of how much work is involved in getting neutron support added? And is it an effort that could use assistance? | 20:56 |
| morganfainberg | bknudson, i wont complain. i'm just aiming for making things in keystone much easier to work w/ both deployment and development. and "methods" and then each method needs another config options i say blech on both sides | 20:56 |
| bknudson | morganfainberg: and maybe just not deprecating the old options would be fine? | 20:57 |
| morganfainberg | bknudson, i could pull the log line out. | 20:57 |
| bknudson | we just support 2 ways of doing the config | 20:57 |
| bknudson | and we also now validate that the name matches | 20:57 |
| morganfainberg | bknudson, is there a timeline you'd collapse that down? | 20:57 |
| ewindisch | marun: we can always use assistance... and effort: I'm not sure. | 20:58 |
| marun | ewindisch: ok. what are the patches for nova network? That's probably a good starting point? | 20:58 |
| morganfainberg | bknudson, i don't think we should have many ways to accomplish the same thing in purpituity. but i don't mind initially leaving it undeprecated | 20:58 |
| morganfainberg | bknudson, config file wise, especially "magic" ways. | 20:59 |
| marun | ewindisch: I don't have a lot of time for this, to be honest, but I think the benefits of being able to test without vm's will be very useful for neutron since we care more about connectivity than hypervisor-specific features. | 20:59 |
| bknudson | morganfainberg: I'm ok with deprecating one method or the other in the future... it just seems too soon now. | 20:59 |
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| marun | ewindisch: so I'm hoping to give what help I can. | 20:59 |
| morganfainberg | bknudson, sure. i'll pull the deprecation warning out. | 20:59 |
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| ewindisch | marun: awesome. | 21:00 |
| ewindisch | marun: lets sync again in a bit - I have a phone call at the moment | 21:00 |
| marun | ewindisch: ok, sounds good. please ping me when you're free. | 21:00 |
| morganfainberg | bknudson, i also made sure we don't error if method isn't defined using the "methods" option, since out-of-tree plugins may not define it. but it does warn because it should be changed to have the method attribute | 21:00 |
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| ekarlso | using docker for what ? | 21:01 |
| bknudson | morganfainberg: it's going to have to error if using the plugins method? | 21:01 |
| morganfainberg | bknudson, yes, because we can't know using the "plugins" method what you're registering for | 21:02 |
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| morganfainberg | bknudson, i think the plugin should claim it's method. | 21:03 |
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| bknudson | morganfainberg: it used to be you could use the same plugin for 2 different method names. | 21:04 |
| bknudson | not sure why you would want to do that. | 21:04 |
| morganfainberg | bknudson, yeah, i don't really see a usecase? | 21:04 |
| morganfainberg | bknudson, but that is why i'm discussing it. if there is a good use case we can come up with something else | 21:04 |
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| bknudson | morganfainberg: you could still do it but would just have to use a different class... could just derive from the original one and return a different name | 21:05 |
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| devoid | keystone folks: how can I validate a policy.json file? how can I debug an issue where keystone seems to ignore my policy.json file? | 21:07 |
| lbragstad | devoid: what are you trying to verify? | 21:08 |
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| marun | russellb: ah, that's why I was confused. according to the wiki libvirt+lxc is scheduled for deprecation in icehouse, and I somehow misread that. | 21:09 |
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| russellb | it is? | 21:09 |
| russellb | oh ... because of the CI requirement | 21:09 |
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| marun | russellb: I guess there is nobody willing to do 3rd party testing? | 21:10 |
| russellb | right | 21:10 |
| russellb | we could run it in the current infra though | 21:10 |
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| russellb | just nobody has put the time into it | 21:10 |
| marun | russellb: right. so many other fires burning brighter | 21:11 |
| russellb | yep | 21:11 |
| russellb | i've never used it | 21:11 |
| russellb | wouldn't be surprised if it's broken in all kinds of ways | 21:11 |
| russellb | (the whole point of the CI requirement) | 21:11 |
| devoid | lbragstad: well i can't change keystone's behavior | 21:12 |
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| devoid | e.g. setting "identity:list_users" : "@" in https://github.com/openstack/keystone/blob/master/etc/policy.json doesn't let me list users as a normal user | 21:13 |
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| devoid | (e.g. role == "_member_" | 21:13 |
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| morganfainberg | bknudson, aye | 21:13 |
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| russellb | sdague: http://logs.openstack.org/03/68703/2/check/gate-tempest-dsvm-large-ops/069a8d5/logs/pidstat.dat.gz | 21:14 |
| russellb | err | 21:14 |
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| lbragstad | devoid: by default 'user list' is an admin action. | 21:21 |
| lbragstad | devoid: https://github.com/openstack/keystone/blob/master/keystone/identity/controllers.py#L112 what version of the identity api are you using? | 21:21 |
| devoid | ibragstad, v2 | 21:22 |
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| devoid | based on this, it looks like keystone asserts admin context for everything? | 21:24 |
| morganfainberg | devoid, v2 is very different than v3 | 21:24 |
| devoid | in other words, policy.json is useless? | 21:24 |
| lbragstad | for v2 | 21:24 |
| lbragstad | devoid: https://github.com/openstack/identity-api/blob/master/openstack-identity-api/v3/src/markdown/identity-api-v3.md#list-users-get-users | 21:25 |
| morganfainberg | devoid, use v3 if you want policy.json | 21:25 |
| lbragstad | give that a shot | 21:25 |
| devoid | how do I switch to v3? | 21:25 |
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| lbragstad | in your request, you can specify the version of the api you want to use | 21:25 |
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| devoid | so switch out the catalog? | 21:26 |
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| lbragstad | devoid: http://adam.younglogic.com/2013/09/keystone-v3-api-examples/ | 21:26 |
| zzelle | :q | 21:27 |
| lbragstad | devoid: http://docs.openstack.org/developer/keystone/api_curl_examples.html | 21:27 |
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| devoid | what isn't supported by v3? | 21:27 |
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| devoid | how do I alter the endpoint on a non-production setup with out borking everything? | 21:29 |
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| devoid | $ keystone endpoint-list : The resource could not be found. (HTTP 404) | 21:31 |
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| lbragstad | devoid: well, doens't look like you have any endpoints :) | 21:31 |
| devoid | lbragstad I did before swapping the v2 endpoint out for v3 | 21:32 |
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| devoid | (endpoints for glance, nova, etc.) | 21:32 |
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| lbragstad | devoid: https://github.com/openstack/keystone/blob/master/keystone/catalog/core.py#L277 | 21:35 |
| lbragstad | devoid: https://github.com/openstack/keystone/blob/master/keystone/catalog/core.py#L302 | 21:35 |
| lbragstad | devoid: you *might* have to readd them | 21:36 |
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| devoid | lbragstad, oh lol endpoint table doesn't maintain deleted entries | 21:38 |
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| devoid | https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/1272086 | 21:40 |
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| devoid | ok, recovered the v2 endpoints correctly. do I need to do anything to enable the v3 endpoint in the config? | 21:43 |
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| devoid | alternatively, is there a way with v2 to enable non-admin users to do obvious stuff like list-users, get-user, list-tenants and get-tenants? | 21:44 |
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| devoid | since getting these UUIDs is required for several API commands that users might want to call. | 21:45 |
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| lbragstad | devoid: I don't think so with V2, like morganfainberg said, v2 is much different than v3 | 21:45 |
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| devoid | ok, so v3 is probably needed. can all clients use v3 at this point? | 21:46 |
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| bhargav | i am installing devstack | 21:50 |
| bhargav | and get this error for compute "Service n-cpu is not running" | 21:50 |
| bhargav | Any help would be appreciated | 21:50 |
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| sdague | bhargav: was does the n-cpu log say? | 21:51 |
| sdague | or tab in screen? | 21:51 |
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| bhargav | sdague: is this log location, /opt/stack/status/stack/n-cpu.failure | 21:52 |
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| sdague | no | 21:52 |
| sdague | attached to the screen | 21:52 |
| sdague | screen -rd | 21:53 |
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| devoid | lbragstad 2014-01-23 15:54:50.166 7473 DEBUG routes.middleware [-] No route matched for POST /v3.0/tokens __call__ /usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/routes/middleware.py:97 | 21:55 |
| bhargav | sdauge: I am new to devstack, this is what i see stack@Compute-1:/opt/stack/nova$ cd /opt/stack/nova && /usr/local/bin/nova-novncproxy --config-file /etc/nova/nova.conf --web /opt/stack/noVNC & echo $! >/opt/stack/status/stack/n-novnc.pid; fg || echo "n-novnc failed to start" | tee "/opt/stack/status/stack/n-novnc.failure" [1] 26919 cd /opt/stack/nova && /usr/local/bin/nova-novncproxy --config-file /etc/nova/nova.conf --web / | 21:55 |
| devoid | ubuntu package : keystone 1:2013.2~rc4-0ubuntu1~cloud0 | 21:55 |
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| lbragstad | s/v3.0/v3/ | 21:57 |
| lbragstad | devoid: ^ | 21:57 |
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| devoid | lbragstad oh nice, now endpoint-list shows blank columns for the urls | 22:01 |
| devoid | known bug? | 22:01 |
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| lbragstad | devoid: and you added the endpoints to keystone? | 22:02 |
| lbragstad | urls are required according to the api spec https://github.com/openstack/identity-api/blob/master/openstack-identity-api/v3/src/markdown/identity-api-v3.md#endpoints-v3endpoints | 22:03 |
| devoid | lbragstad yea, endpoint works and shows up in catalog… http://paste.openstack.org/show/61789/ | 22:03 |
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| devoid | lbragstad, looks like it's also leaking out links : [ "self" : "http://localhost:5000/v3/endpoints/" ] on each endpoint | 22:06 |
| lbragstad | devoid: but... https://github.com/openstack/identity-api/blob/master/openstack-identity-api/v3/src/markdown/identity-api-v3.md#endpoints-v3endpoints | 22:06 |
| lbragstad | devoid: sorry wrong link | 22:06 |
| lbragstad | devoid: https://github.com/openstack/keystone/blob/master/keystone/catalog/controllers.py#L238-L239 | 22:06 |
| devoid | lbragstad, I was able to create the endpoint, and now things work with the /v3 URL | 22:07 |
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| devoid | the first issue I see, though is that the endpoint table has empty urls (things like user-list work correctly for my admin user though) | 22:07 |
| devoid | the second issue is I need to switch the link rel-self urls to point at my loadbalancer | 22:08 |
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| devoid | presumably these link "self" entries should be relative URLs | 22:21 |
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| bhargav | i am new to devstack, getting this error 'Error: Service n-cpu is not running' for compute | 22:21 |
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| bhargav | Any help would be great | 22:22 |
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| bhargav | Team, any help on this issue "Error: Service n-cpu is not running' for compute" | 22:27 |
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| devoid | keystone: https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/1272103 | 22:37 |
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| bhargav | hello: n-cpu & n-novnc is not running when devstack is installed for first time | 22:58 |
| bhargav | is there anyt help woul di get | 22:58 |
| bhargav | *any* | 22:59 |
| devoid | bhargav, service nova-compute restart? | 22:59 |
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| bhargav | devoid: where should i provide this CLI ? | 23:01 |
| devoid | bhargav, that's if you're using upstart, I'm not sure how devstack handles services within screen | 23:01 |
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| bknudson | devoid: bhargav: devstack just starts the executable. You can CTRL-C in the tab to kill it. | 23:05 |
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| devoid | ah ok, so in bhargav's case, find the tab named n-cpu and try restarting | 23:06 |
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| devoid | keystone folks, why does " $ keystone tenant-list " send a GET /v3/tenants ? Shouldn't it be GET /v3/projects ? | 23:07 |
| bknudson | devoid: keystone CLI doesn't support the Identity API V3 | 23:08 |
| devoid | lol wtf | 23:08 |
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| bknudson | devoid: the unified CLI has identity V3 support | 23:08 |
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| devoid | bknudson, sorry still trying to wrap my head around the wat level of that comment http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0070/7032/files/wat_grande.jpg%3F113123 | 23:09 |
| devoid | why make a v3 api if keystoneclient won't support it? | 23:10 |
| bknudson | devoid: why put support for v3 identity api in 2 CLIs? | 23:10 |
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| devoid | bknudson, because there's a huge install base for the keystoneclient, including scripts that use the libraries? | 23:11 |
| bknudson | devoid: the python library does support it. | 23:11 |
| bhargav | devoid: bknudson: I did unstack.sh and re-ran stack.sh, get the same error | 23:11 |
| bknudson | devoid: they can continue to use the v2 api. | 23:11 |
| devoid | bknudson, not if the v2 api can't support pain users doing user-get | 23:11 |
| devoid | *plain | 23:12 |
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| devoid | the point is I don't see why v3 API got the go-ahead if keystoneclient won't support it. | 23:13 |
| devoid | (as in, add support in keystoneclient for the new API) | 23:13 |
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| devoid | bknudson, well i've submitted to openstackreactions | 23:20 |
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| devoid | bknudson, so presumably keystoneclient also has no knowledge of what URL corresponds to what API version | 23:22 |
| devoid | even though we presumably went through all of this for the v2.0 API | 23:23 |
| bknudson | devoid: the CLI only uses the v2 python api, so only uses v2 identity api | 23:23 |
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| devoid | https://github.com/openstack/python-keystoneclient/blob/master/keystoneclient/shell.py#L18 | 23:26 |
| devoid | bknudson, and of course there's no ubuntu package for it http://paste.openstack.org/show/61796/ | 23:27 |
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| ttx | kgriffs: yeah, announce is only for "integrated" projects so far, to reduce confusion | 23:36 |
| ttx | garyk: pong? | 23:36 |
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| ttx | dhellmann: I've been tagging oslo-incubator and marking bugs released there | 23:37 |
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| ayoung | morganfainberg|z, wake up! | 23:40 |
| ayoung | dolphm, we can only invalidate the cache for individual tokens, right? | 23:43 |
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| devoid | so if the keystone endpoint is pointed at the v3 API, do I need a second endpoint to enable the V2 api? | 23:47 |
| devoid | (and do they need to be in separate regions?) | 23:47 |
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| morganfainberg | ayoung, hi | 23:48 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, sorry was in a meeting | 23:48 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, and yes. | 23:48 |
| ayoung | NP | 23:48 |
| ayoung | could a swore I heard you snore. | 23:48 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, invalidation of tokens is only able to be done at a per-token basis | 23:48 |
| ayoung | morganfainberg, we can only invalidate the cache for an individual token right now, right? | 23:49 |
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| ayoung | so....I'ma break dat | 23:49 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, correct, but i can make that not a going concern if you need it | 23:49 |
| ayoung | morganfainberg, I am going to bypass the cached for now | 23:49 |
| ayoung | if not CONF.token.revoke_by_id | 23:49 |
| devoid | or should I not deploy v3 since it doesn't look to be supported yet. | 23:49 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, easiest way is to make a better SHOULD_CACHE function for tokens that also takes that into account | 23:50 |
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| morganfainberg | ayoung, that way rather than bypassing cache, you tell dogpile you shouldn't cache | 23:51 |
| ayoung | yeah....I can't think how to do that right now | 23:51 |
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| morganfainberg | ayoung, sec have code example in ... 2 minutes max | 23:51 |
| ayoung | if the revocation event comes in, I need to invalidate the cache for all tokens that would match that event | 23:51 |
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| ayoung | right now, the validity check is in the provider | 23:52 |
| ayoung | but the caching is in the manager | 23:52 |
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| ayoung | if the caching were in the provider, I could validate the token against the cache there | 23:53 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, something like this: http://paste.openstack.org/show/61799/ | 23:53 |
| ayoung | morganfainberg, not quite | 23:53 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, no? you don't want to cache if you're revoking by id, right? | 23:54 |
| ayoung | other way around | 23:54 |
| morganfainberg | erm, ok | 23:54 |
| ayoung | revoke_by_id is the existing mechanism | 23:54 |
| ayoung | but... | 23:54 |
| morganfainberg | so i inverted the ifcheck ;) | 23:54 |
| ayoung | I want to use the provider to fetch the token | 23:54 |
| ayoung | not the driver | 23:54 |
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| ayoung | manager calls the driver with self.driver.get_token | 23:54 |
| morganfainberg | right.... | 23:55 |
| ayoung | and then that gets cached. I want that call on the provider | 23:55 |
| ayoung | but | 23:55 |
| morganfainberg | ok. | 23:55 |
| ayoung | I also need to invalidate the cache | 23:55 |
| ayoung | basd on a revocation event though | 23:55 |
| ayoung | not an id | 23:55 |
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| morganfainberg | ayoung, hm. | 23:55 |
| ayoung | yeah... | 23:55 |
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| morganfainberg | ayoung, eh. why do you need to invalidate the cache again? | 23:56 |
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| morganfainberg | ayoung, vs. just making the validator check your event list? | 23:57 |
| ayoung | wait a sec...I think something is backwards here | 23:57 |
| ayoung | OK...problem is get_policy_check_credential bypasses the provider | 23:57 |
| ayoung | mioght be OK | 23:57 |
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| morganfainberg | ayoung, ahhhh | 23:57 |
| ayoung | provider calls into manager | 23:58 |
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