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| _cjones_ | dolphm: Everything seems to be working as I would expect. | 00:00 |
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| dolphm | _cjones_: hmm, maybe cloud policy isn't working as *I* expect lol | 00:00 |
| jamielennox | dolphm: this just came up in -infra: http://logs.openstack.org/51/66451/2/check/check-tempest-dsvm-neutron-pg-isolated/6b3bee7/logs/screen-key.txt.gz have you seen that? | 00:00 |
| _cjones_ | dolphm: I believe that most of my mis-understanding, and questions have arisen from the lack of, or poor, documentation. | 00:01 |
| dolphm | jamielennox: no... context? | 00:01 |
| * dolphm reads the URL | 00:01 | |
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| _cjones_ | dolphm: Nope. Use case is that I have one cloud admin, two additional domains, one default project in each domain, and one admin for each domain. Each domain admin can only see inside his/her domain, and may create a user within that domain and may not have visibility into another domain. | 00:03 |
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| _cjones_ | dolphm: This use case works as I would expect. I've tried everything now. | 00:08 |
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| morganfainberg | jamielennox, dolphm , you can also make a trivial change to the commit message and that immidiately pulls it out of gate pipeline | 00:11 |
| morganfainberg | dolphm, jamielennox, rather than needing to wait for it to fail to merge because of a -2 | 00:12 |
| morganfainberg | also wipes out the +A | 00:12 |
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| morganfainberg | similarly rebase button would do the same | 00:12 |
| morganfainberg | if anything has merged | 00:12 |
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| Guest98765 | where do I find devstack or instructions on it? a search for it on the wiki doesn't turn up anything useful | 00:25 |
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| russellb | devstack.org :) | 00:27 |
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| Guest98765 | russellb: thanks. is that linked anywhere from the openstack site? | 00:30 |
| russellb | not sure, probably | 00:30 |
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| bknudson | Guest98765: http://www.openstack.org/software/start/ | 00:33 |
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| bknudson | which is better fixtures 0.3.14 or fixture 1.5 | 00:46 |
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| locke105 | bknudson: i think it depends on what you want to use it for | 00:52 |
| locke105 | fixtures is for setting SQL state to a known state | 00:52 |
| locke105 | err sorry | 00:52 |
| locke105 | fixture, no s | 00:52 |
| locke105 | fixtures is for various testing utility states, like creating temporary bytestreams and the like | 00:53 |
| bknudson | locke105: ok, thanks | 00:53 |
| bknudson | they have very similar names | 00:53 |
| locke105 | lol yes | 00:53 |
| locke105 | its confusing... | 00:53 |
| locke105 | they have some overlap too | 00:54 |
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| ayoung | dolphm, 1 hour tokens are going to mess someone up. But maybe that is OK. | 01:23 |
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| morganfainberg | ayoung, i think the reason we punted is because the review came late in the cycle | 01:28 |
| morganfainberg | vs early enought o make sure everyone was prepared for it | 01:28 |
| ayoung | morganfainberg, need to post that to operators list, I think | 01:28 |
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| morganfainberg | ayoung, fair point. lets plan to do that tomorrow/wed @ hackfest | 01:29 |
| ayoung | ++ | 01:29 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, before we approve it that is | 01:29 |
| ayoung | morganfainberg, I think I just found my new workspace | 01:29 |
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| morganfainberg | ? | 01:29 |
| ayoung | http://bkbs.brooklynboulders.com/active-collaborative-workspace/ | 01:29 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, it was a lot like idealabs. but... slacklining ftw | 01:30 |
| ayoung | Lead climbing for the win | 01:30 |
| morganfainberg | yeaH, dude, i'm so in on thaT | 01:30 |
| ayoung | I wonder if they have a hand crack | 01:30 |
| morganfainberg | i wish i wasn't so bad at climbing these days | 01:30 |
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| ayoung | to get better at climbing you need to climb | 01:31 |
| morganfainberg | yeah i know | 01:31 |
| ayoung | I don't get much of that these days either | 01:31 |
| morganfainberg | and to not get rusty at it.. you need to climbn | 01:31 |
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| ayoung | I'ma check out that space next week. I'd go tomorrow but, you know | 01:31 |
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| morganfainberg | hehe | 01:31 |
| morganfainberg | unfortunately, i'm in SoCal | 01:32 |
| morganfainberg | we don't have things like that | 01:32 |
| morganfainberg | we have... different things | 01:32 |
| ayoung | there a climbing gym in SA? | 01:32 |
| morganfainberg | maybe | 01:32 |
| morganfainberg | not really sure | 01:32 |
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| morganfainberg | ayoung, http://www.yelp.com/biz/the-district-san-antonio | 01:32 |
| ayoung | yeah...maybe we'll pass on that | 01:33 |
| ayoung | next hackfest we'll do in Yosemite | 01:33 |
| morganfainberg | heh | 01:33 |
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| morganfainberg | that would be quite the hackfest | 01:34 |
| morganfainberg | though, might get less hacking done, more "aw hell, lets just go to stuff outside" | 01:34 |
| ayoung | "Didn't write much code but we had a lotta fun in the Sierra Hacking Fest!" | 01:34 |
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| ayoung | We're headed to the wrong part of Texas for climbing. We should be going to Hueco tanks for that | 01:35 |
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| _cjones_ | ayoung, I'd love to go to Hueco. Never been. :( | 01:46 |
| _cjones_ | Sadly, I'm very, very out of shape. Starting to get back into it. | 01:47 |
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| ayoung | YAY TOKEN BINDING MERGED! | 03:31 |
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| dstanek | what time do you guys arrive? | 04:01 |
| stevemar | dstanek, flight lands at 6ish | 04:02 |
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| dstanek | i think i'm about an hour earlier | 04:06 |
| dstanek | stevemar: you're staying at the courtyard right? | 04:07 |
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| stevemar | dstanek, yes sir | 04:10 |
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| jamielennox | is there going to be a meeting tomorrow morning or is everyone in flight? | 04:18 |
| jamielennox | ahh, keystone meeting in about 14hrs? | 04:19 |
| jamielennox | stevemar, ayoung: ^ | 04:19 |
| morganfainberg | jamielennox, i wont be there | 04:19 |
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| ayoung | I'll probably need to be on my way to the airport | 04:19 |
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| morganfainberg | jamielennox, but i don't think i heard if anyone else is missing etc | 04:19 |
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| ayoung | I fly at 4 my time... | 04:19 |
| morganfainberg | i will actually be in flight. though there is the claim my plane has the weefees | 04:20 |
| jamielennox | i assume it'll run - it's just if it's going to be really empty then i'm going to stay asleep | 04:20 |
| ayoung | I might be at the airport bar^H^H^H^H | 04:20 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, hehe | 04:20 |
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| ayoung | headed to bed gnight all see you in Texas | 04:21 |
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| stevemar | i'll also be missing the meeting | 04:21 |
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| jamielennox | i'm thinking i might stay in bed, this way i'm not going to have to have a meeting till 8.30am | 04:22 |
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| morganfainberg | oh right. we need to have a whiskey night in SA. | 04:24 |
| morganfainberg | random thought | 04:24 |
| morganfainberg | it's important :P | 04:24 |
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| lbragstad_ | morganfainberg: +1 | 04:28 |
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| morganfainberg | lbragstad_, :) | 04:29 |
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| ik_ | hi | 11:45 |
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| ik_ | anyone here has ran run_test.sh? | 11:46 |
| ik_ | I am getting invalid command 'testr' when I execute ./run_tests.sh | 11:47 |
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| ik_ | can anyone help me? | 11:47 |
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| tristanC | ik_: what project are you talking about ? | 11:48 |
| ik_ | this is cinder | 11:48 |
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| ik_ | I am trying to set my unit testing environment | 11:48 |
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| ik_ | I have installed virtual environment with the help of toos/install_venv.py | 11:49 |
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| lxsli | ik_ you could try pip install pbr ? | 11:55 |
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| viktors | jd__: around? | 11:55 |
| ik_ | at global level or in a virutal env | 11:56 |
| ik_ | *virtual | 11:56 |
| jd__ | viktors: yup? | 11:56 |
| tristanC | ik_: also try pip install testrepository, it fixs the "invalid command testr" | 11:57 |
| viktors | jd__: hi. When you'll have a time, can you please look at an another attempt to run oslo-test in py3 env? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/66528/ | 11:57 |
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| jd__ | viktors: not the right approach since that would break setup.py requirements list, but nice try :) | 11:58 |
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| ik_ | Thank you all.. fixed my testr issue.. | 11:59 |
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| ik_ | since I am on centos and it has 2.6 | 12:00 |
| ik_ | unit testing is failing.. | 12:00 |
| ik_ | probably getting my virtual env will help me | 12:00 |
| viktors | jd__: so we should keep requirements only in single file, not in tox.ini? I didn't knew it... | 12:00 |
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| ik_ | I think tox.ini is only meant for running test cases via tox | 12:01 |
| ik_ | I also have one more question.. which one should we prefer? tox or run_tests | 12:02 |
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| viktors | jd__: or should I ask someone else about it? | 12:04 |
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| jd__ | viktors: no, everything is taking care of already | 12:20 |
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| viktors | jd__: ok, thanks for your answers | 12:24 |
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| jd__ | viktors: you're welcome :) | 12:24 |
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| jgriffith | ttx: whenver you're available | 13:30 |
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| vkozhukalov | hey guys, is it ok to use libvirt python API inside tempest scenarios? I ask because here http://docs.openstack.org/developer/tempest/overview.html is written that I am not allowed to hit hypervisors directly, but using libvirt is not hitting hypervisors directly. I need to create several tiny VMs in my testing scenario (ironic functional testing). | 13:38 |
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| rvvaidya | I am new to open-stack. I want to contribute in some way. I believe knowledge of python is a prerequisite for contributing to this project. What state is the project in, is it a good time to join? | 13:45 |
| rvvaidya | Posted the query earlier on #openstack. Got one pointer to post here. | 13:46 |
| jaypipes | sdague: a new favorite quote... "The folks working on keeping XML alive aren't doing it because they have a dramatic passion for XML". | 13:48 |
| sdague | :) | 13:48 |
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| jaypipes | gokrokve: morning, Gosha | 13:48 |
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| ijw | peeps | 14:02 |
| irenab_ | ijw:hi | 14:02 |
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| yjiang5 | irenab_: ijw: yes | 14:03 |
| ijw | OK - a little frustrating but I think that's just a matter of writing up what we discussed. | 14:03 |
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| irenab_ | ijw:yjiang5: agree, and understand the admin/tenant apis | 14:03 |
| ijw | I don't see much point in evaluating it against use cases if people will just pull new ones out of the air, that's the issue | 14:03 |
| ijw | yjiang5: which is the best document to take your flavor APIs from? | 14:04 |
| yjiang5 | ijw: ? | 14:04 |
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| yjiang5 | ijw: I have no document at all. | 14:05 |
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| irenab_ | ijw:yjiang5: I want to progress with neutron part, it seems not dependand so much on current discussion | 14:05 |
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| yjiang5 | irenab_: I'm not expert on it, but be glad to be involved. | 14:05 |
| baoli_ | irenab, I think that's a good idea. As long as the nova<->neutron interface is clearly defined | 14:06 |
| yjiang5 | ijw: do you need a document from me? If yes, I can prepare for it. | 14:06 |
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| irenab_ | ijw:yjiang5: please just go over the comments we pass to each other, I'll talk to Bob and hopefully next week will staet with POC | 14:06 |
| irenab_ | baoli: please go over too | 14:06 |
| yjiang5 | irenab_: just got up before the meeting and no time to check comments on your doc. | 14:06 |
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| irenab_ | yjiang5: not a problem, will look back in few hours. | 14:07 |
| ijw | yjiang5: I don't think I need one, but you or heyongli had a good document with flavor APIs and I was going to copy the relevant sections from i | 14:07 |
| ijw | t | 14:07 |
| baoli_ | which meeting? | 14:07 |
| ijw | Can't remember which is was, there have been quite a few now | 14:07 |
| baoli_ | irenab, you mean the comments in your pci aware google doc? | 14:08 |
| irenab_ | baoli: yes | 14:08 |
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| baoli_ | irenab, sure. I have been followwing on that | 14:08 |
| irenab_ | baoli: great, maybe we will sync on tomorrow/day after meeting and if there is an agreement, I will try to write it next week. | 14:09 |
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| baoli_ | sounds good | 14:10 |
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| yjiang5 | irenab_: I'm poor on network. But your proposal requiers always create a port explicitly in nova, right? IIRC, currently nova does not always create port. | 14:11 |
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| irenab_ | yjiang5: it can be also with port_update | 14:12 |
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| yjiang5 | irenab_: thanks, I will look around the code again. | 14:12 |
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| irenab_ | yjiang5: thanks. | 14:13 |
| irenab_ | I have to go now. see you tommorow on IRC | 14:13 |
| yjiang5 | irenab_: see you. | 14:13 |
| yjiang5 | baoli_: do you have any question to ijw's pci flavor ? Maybe we can discuss here :) | 14:14 |
| ijw | yjiang5: it either creates a port (if you have a net-id) or you pass in a port (if you pass a port-id) but a port is always present by the time of the attach. | 14:14 |
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| yjiang5 | ijw: thanks. I remember the port is created implictly when attach network. I will re-check the code. Sorry I'm not well on network. | 14:15 |
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| yjiang5 | ijw: I don't think yongli and I have good documents of nova flavor API, except the out-of-date yongli's wiki | 14:17 |
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| ijw | that may be the one I'm thinking of | 14:18 |
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| ijw | irenab_ has it right anyway - there's at least a port update and usually a port-create but there's always a port involved. | 14:19 |
| ijw | I'm wondering about that vnic-type attribute now - it seems there's only really any point in specifying it if the attachment is a PCI one because the default (it absent) should imply no pci-flavor | 14:20 |
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| yjiang5 | ijw: A confirmation on your step1/2/3. I sent a mail to you to double confirm. | 14:23 |
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| ijw | Cool, thanks | 14:23 |
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| flaper87 | markmc: dhellmann Hey guys, is this still something we want? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/66029/ | 14:35 |
| markmc | flaper87, do you think we don't ? | 14:35 |
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| markmc | flaper87, put it this way - yes, I do ... but I'm curious why you ask :) | 14:36 |
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| flaper87 | markmc: I do too but I thought I read somewhere that entrypoint was not exactly the path we were planning to go through. I'm most likely wrong. | 14:37 |
| flaper87 | :D | 14:37 |
| flaper87 | so, ignore me! | 14:37 |
| * flaper87 is reviewing the patch | 14:37 | |
| markmc | flaper87, doug's original idea was that an app could query the entry points for options to register at startup | 14:38 |
| markmc | flaper87, I think we've decided not to do that part | 14:39 |
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| markmc | flaper87, but entry points is a fine way for the config generator to discover options IMO | 14:39 |
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| tongli | privmsg openstack test | 14:39 |
| flaper87 | markmc: oh ok, so that's what I the part I read | 14:39 |
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| flaper87 | markmc: sounds good, I like the entry point idea too, FWIW! | 14:39 |
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| * flaper87 is starting to migrate marconi to use entry-points for the config options discoverability | 14:40 | |
| flaper87 | markmc: thanks | 14:40 |
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| markmc | flaper87, np; thanks for reviewing | 14:41 |
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| dolphm | bknudson: o/ | 14:47 |
| bknudson | dolphm: hi | 14:47 |
| dolphm | bknudson: i'm looking at the bp in oslo that https://blueprints.launchpad.net/keystone/+spec/user-locale-api is dependent on | 14:47 |
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| dolphm | bknudson: most of the patches there are merged except for one... is there enough there that we can knock out the keystone side, or should this be pushed to m3? | 14:48 |
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| bknudson | dolphm: I'll look at this this morning and get back to you | 14:48 |
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| dolphm | bknudson: thanks! | 14:49 |
| dhellmann | markmc: apparently we haven't released oslo.messaging to pypi? is there any reason to wait? | 14:50 |
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| markmc | dhellmann, do we have the publish-beta-releases-to-pypi thing yet? | 14:51 |
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| dhellmann | markmc: I'm not sure, we're discussing in -infra if you can join us there | 14:52 |
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| dolphm | bknudson: skimming the blocked review in oslo, it doesn't look like it's anything keystone needs to be blocked on | 15:13 |
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| bknudson | dolphm: ok. I'll take a quick look and then should be able to update.py and change keystone to use it again | 15:13 |
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| dolphm | bknudson: let me know if you need a hand | 15:20 |
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| bknudson | dolphm: the gettextutils interface changed pretty significantly so need to rework some keystone code to use it. | 15:40 |
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| jd__ | mikal: around? I've been aksed to raise https://review.openstack.org/#/c/64150/ to your eyes :) | 15:50 |
| viktors | dolphm: hi | 15:53 |
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| zul | rpodolyaka: ping | 16:06 |
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| dolphm | bknudson: boo. viable for i2 or push to i3? | 16:06 |
| dolphm | viktors: o/ | 16:06 |
| bknudson | dolphm: I'll work on it today, should be able to get it sorted out. | 16:07 |
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| zul | rpodolyaka: with that patch applied for the sqlalchemy fix i still get the same problem | 16:07 |
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| rpodolyaka | zul: pong | 16:14 |
| viktors | dolphm: I'd like to ask you about keystone authentication development plans. BP https://blueprints.launchpad.net/keystone/+spec/access-key-authentication will be only one global change in keystone authentication? | 16:15 |
| zul | rpodolyaka: hi, with that patch applied i still get the same errors | 16:15 |
| jaypipes | dolphm, bknudson, morganfainberg: would love a final review on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/63570/ if you have some free time today. thx in advance! | 16:15 |
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| rpodolyaka | zul: it must be something new then :( will take a closer look tomorrow. Looks very similar to the issue, that is solved by that patch | 16:15 |
| dolphm | viktors: i'm not sure i understand the question, but i don't think we have any reason to implement that blueprint. the use case presented there can be entirely solved by implementing password rotation instead | 16:16 |
| zul | rpodolyaka: ok i dont think patch has been applied to oslo-incubator either :) | 16:16 |
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| dolphm | jaypipes: absolutely will do! | 16:16 |
| jaypipes | dolphm: thx man, most appreciated! | 16:17 |
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| zul | rpodolyaka: ok please keep me in the loop | 16:17 |
| rpodolyaka | zul: sure! | 16:18 |
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| viktors | dolphm: we are going to use ks auth in common openstack python client so my question was "should we worry about future changes in keystone authentication?" | 16:21 |
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| dolphm | viktors: not with regard to that blueprint | 16:22 |
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| dolphm | viktors: on the keystoneclient side, we're working to make auth completely pluggable though | 16:22 |
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| viktors | dolphm: oh, can I read about it somewhere? | 16:23 |
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| bknudson | luisg: got a minute? | 16:27 |
| luisg | hi sure | 16:27 |
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| bknudson | luisg: take a look at http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/oslo-incubator/tree/openstack/common/gettextutils.py#n318 | 16:27 |
| bknudson | luisg: is that supposed to be "return message" ? | 16:28 |
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| luisg | the line numers are not aligned.. | 16:29 |
| bknudson | luisg: because then the value returned would be a six.text_type. | 16:29 |
| luisg | you mean the final return from that method? | 16:29 |
| bknudson | luisg: yes | 16:29 |
| luisg | no, its supposed to be obj, like the method doc says, if it can't be translated the object is returend as-is | 16:30 |
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| bknudson | luisg: ok... so our code has to figure out if it was translated or not... maybe check with 'is' to see if the same object was returned so it wasn't translated. | 16:31 |
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| luisg | if needed to check ywah that would be one way to do it | 16:32 |
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| viktors | dolphm: can you please tell me, is there any place where I can get any information about your work with pluggable auth? | 16:40 |
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| dolphm | viktors: that's sort of all of keystone :P which aspect - API, service-side handlers, client side plugins, etc? | 16:41 |
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| viktors | dolphm: about API | 16:42 |
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| dolphm | viktors: all the APIs are specified here https://github.com/openstack/identity-api/tree/master/openstack-identity-api/v3/src/markdown | 16:42 |
| viktors | dolphm: thanks | 16:42 |
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| s2r2 | I'm still fighting this weird problem… neutron-dhcp-agent reports ":-)" and exits immediately. Nothing in the logs or stderr. I'm puzzled. | 16:59 |
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| bogdando | dhellmann, ping | 17:03 |
| dhellmann | bogdando: pong | 17:03 |
| bogdando | dhellmann, hello | 17:03 |
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| bogdando | dhellmann, I've updated oslo incubator patch for RFC syslogs | 17:03 |
| bogdando | dhellmann, adding new option we've discussed recently - use_syslog_rfc_format | 17:04 |
| dhellmann | bogdando: ok | 17:04 |
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| bogdando | dhellmann, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/63094, please review then you will have a time. Thank you. | 17:05 |
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| dhellmann | bogdando: thanks, it's on my list | 17:05 |
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| dolphm | marekd|away: just approved this, but it looks like it needs some merge conflict love https://review.openstack.org/#/c/60244/ | 17:07 |
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| yjiang5_1 | BobBall: hi | 17:22 |
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| BobBall | yjiang5_1: Ah - our paths cross! But I've actually found out the info I was looking for! :) Ta :) | 17:26 |
| yjiang5_1 | BobBall: great. | 17:27 |
| yjiang5_1 | BobBall: which part are you looking for? | 17:27 |
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| BobBall | Was looking into https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/hw-feature-to-vm BP | 17:30 |
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| yjiang5 | BobBall: :) | 17:48 |
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| marekd | dolphm: thanks, i will take care of that. | 17:51 |
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| arosen | dolphm: ping | 17:53 |
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| dolphm | arosen: pong | 17:56 |
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| arosen | Hiya dolphm, I've been doing a good amount of performance testing lately and I found this point here ( https://github.com/openstack/python-keystoneclient/blob/master/keystoneclient/common/cms.py#L108) which ends up being a pretty big bottle neck | 17:57 |
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| arosen | as it needs to shell out and call openssl ; also causes the machine to run out of file descriptors sometimes. | 17:57 |
| dolphm | arosen: ++ any ideas to improve it? | 17:58 |
| arosen | I was curious if there was any reason why we weren't calling a python binding to do that directly? I was thinking about adding that. | 17:58 |
| arosen | one that didn't need to call subprocess | 17:58 |
| dolphm | arosen: pyopenssl? | 17:59 |
| arosen | yup something like that. | 17:59 |
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| arosen | I was thinking perhaps pyopenssl didn't have all the bindings so that's why we were using openssl directly | 18:00 |
| arosen | i'll look into it though just wanted to ping you first if you knew anything about it off hand. | 18:01 |
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| dolphm | arosen: ayoung made the choice between the two of them long ago, but i've always wanted to see an alternative implementation because subprocessing to openssl causes all kinds of problems, from performance to difficult debugging for end users | 18:04 |
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| dolphm | arosen: i'd suggest pinging ayoung (he's probably afk for the rest of the day today) before you get too deep | 18:04 |
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| jgriffith | markwash: ping | 18:30 |
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| markwash | jgriffith: hello | 18:31 |
| markwash | you're hard to tab-complete today | 18:31 |
| markwash | well, not anymore | 18:31 |
| markwash | hmm | 18:31 |
| markwash | weird | 18:31 |
| jgriffith | markwash: LOL... I was going to say the same for you :) | 18:31 |
| markwash | yeah I'm worse :-) | 18:31 |
| jgriffith | markwash: Hey.. I have a problem I'd like to solve, and need some input from you | 18:31 |
| markwash | cool, what's the problem? | 18:32 |
| jgriffith | markwash: so currently the cinder copy-image-to-volume is kinda dumb | 18:32 |
| jgriffith | markwash: it works by doing a fetch to glance, to a temp file | 18:32 |
| jgriffith | markwash: where it does a qemu-img convert to dump it as raw to the cinder volume | 18:32 |
| jgriffith | markwash: having the tempfile in there makes me sad | 18:32 |
| markwash | hmm, interesting | 18:33 |
| jgriffith | markwash: I'm looking at the possibility of doing a "glance fetch raw" | 18:33 |
| markwash | like doing a qemu convert on the glance download side? | 18:33 |
| jgriffith | and letting the qemu-img convert run against the glance backing stores file directly | 18:33 |
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| jgriffith | markwash: exactly | 18:33 |
| jgriffith | markwash: but it makes some assumptions that might not be valid | 18:33 |
| jgriffith | markwash: ie: You can mount the glance image | 18:33 |
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| markwash | jgriffith: hmm, interesting. . I guess we are trying to solve something like that with the image "export" action | 18:34 |
| jgriffith | markwash: you have qemu tool installed | 18:34 |
| jgriffith | markwash: ahh... tell me more ;) | 18:34 |
| markwash | but it wouldn't necessarily work in a completely streaming way | 18:34 |
| * jgriffith wants streaming :) | 18:34 | |
| markwash | is the problem with the temp file that its local disk? or that its slow becuase its not completely streaming | 18:34 |
| markwash | hmm okay | 18:34 |
| jgriffith | markwash: well.. multiple problems | 18:34 |
| jgriffith | 1. local disk (so you can run out of space) | 18:35 |
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| markwash | I guess there's a bit of a question in my mind if all image formats can actually be streamed to raw. . . | 18:35 |
| jgriffith | 2. (and most important) It's very ineffecient | 18:35 |
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| jgriffith | downloading a temp file of it, then converting and moving to the volume | 18:35 |
| jgriffith | markwash: well that's an interesting point | 18:35 |
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| jgriffith | markwash: but I see no reason why if it "can't" we couldn't just raise an invalid image format | 18:36 |
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| markwash | jgriffith: and well it can probably be worked around anyway | 18:36 |
| jgriffith | markwash: I was looking at hacking something in to glance to do this but wanted to check to see if you had better ideas | 18:36 |
| jgriffith | sound slike you might | 18:36 |
| markwash | if the backend supports ranged reads | 18:37 |
| jgriffith | s/sound s/sounds/ | 18:37 |
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| markwash | I'm a bit hesitant mostly because the direction we've been going hasn't been baking in a streaming concept | 18:37 |
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| markwash | the way you do export is you say basically "glance.export(image, accessible_storage_location)" | 18:37 |
| markwash | and then after that you download from the mutually accessible storage location | 18:38 |
| jgriffith | markwash: hmmm | 18:38 |
| markwash | now, if we could somehow make "accessible_storage_location" == some aspect of cinder | 18:38 |
| jgriffith | markwash: :) | 18:38 |
| markwash | and if we made the glance side of the conversion really smart and streaming | 18:38 |
| jgriffith | markwash: so that's the second part of my question :) | 18:38 |
| markwash | then I think you'd get what you want | 18:38 |
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| jgriffith | yes, I think that would be an end around to what I want | 18:39 |
| jgriffith | but it still seems a bit ineffecient | 18:39 |
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| jgriffith | the other option is create an export of the image file | 18:39 |
| jgriffith | markwash: ie the location can be R/O attached to the cinder node and it could do the convert/stream | 18:40 |
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| jgriffith | markwash: but I don't know how you'd feel about that ^^ | 18:40 |
| jgriffith | markwash: so the trick here is that boot from volume is always going to need to convert to raw | 18:41 |
| jgriffith | markwash: so this is something that happens a lot | 18:41 |
| jgriffith | markwash: well... assuming those env's that use BFV | 18:41 |
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| jgriffith | markwash: my first response to customers was "upload raw image to glance" :) | 18:42 |
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| markwash | so, I need to back up a tiny bit | 18:42 |
| jgriffith | markwash: sure | 18:42 |
| markwash | what would the R/O attached to the cinder node be exactly? | 18:42 |
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| jgriffith | markwash: so by doing that I would offload the streaming concept from you/glance and do it myself :) | 18:42 |
| jgriffith | markwash: so if the glance properties included some option to share out the backing file/image | 18:43 |
| markwash | oh interesting. . . so that would mean you would attach to the image location "in place" and do the conversion on the fly on your side? | 18:43 |
| markwash | *streaming | 18:43 |
| jgriffith | markwash: exactly | 18:44 |
| markwash | I think that has very few blockers. . I guess the way I'd really like to do this would be (and might take some time) | 18:44 |
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| markwash | cinder creates an empty volume of appropriate size | 18:44 |
| markwash | cinder exposes that volume to glance at some url | 18:44 |
| markwash | cinder calls glance and says "export image X to <created volume url> in format raw" | 18:45 |
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| markwash | and then glance does all the heavy lifting in terms of data processing and its concurrent bandwidth/temp storage (however much is needed) | 18:45 |
| jgriffith | markwash: so sort of like creating a "cinder image cache" | 18:45 |
| jgriffith | markwash: and since cinder is only really interested in raw that's sort of implied | 18:46 |
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| markwash | yeah, the only issue with this approach that I see is timing, I'm not sure its going to happen as fast as we'd like | 18:46 |
| markwash | but its something we might be able to dive in on a bit to make it happen faster. . . | 18:46 |
| jgriffith | markwash: I'd be fine with tomorrow :) | 18:46 |
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| markwash | haha me too | 18:47 |
| jgriffith | LOL | 18:47 |
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| jgriffith | markwash: well if we decide this is the right/best approach... | 18:47 |
| markwash | since we don't really ahve the export stuff ready yet | 18:47 |
| jgriffith | markwash: I'm down with working on it with I3 as a goal | 18:47 |
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| jgriffith | markwash: ahh.. there's the catch eh | 18:47 |
| markwash | well, its being worked on and was supposed to make it in I2 so I don't think its *that* far | 18:48 |
| jgriffith | markwash: oh.. well that's promising | 18:48 |
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| markwash | I kinda like this approach in that it allows cinder to not really worry about image formats | 18:48 |
| jgriffith | markwash: yeah, that's not a bad point | 18:49 |
| jgriffith | markwash: I'm still a little bothered about effecincies, however I like the idea of not impacting other glance users | 18:49 |
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| markwash | I don't quite see the inefficiency yet | 18:50 |
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| markwash | I think its still possible to stream through, but I guess there is sort of an asynchronous component | 18:50 |
| jgriffith | markwash: well... having a copy in the glance image store and another copy out on a cinder volume | 18:50 |
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| markwash | oh | 18:50 |
| jgriffith | maybe thats' not a big deal | 18:50 |
| markwash | I see, so really you'd rather just have the image data be mountable as raw in place, I guess? | 18:51 |
| jgriffith | markwash: pretty much :) | 18:51 |
| markwash | yeah that would be ideal | 18:51 |
| jgriffith | markwash: or mountable as "anything" | 18:51 |
| jgriffith | markwash: it doesn't matter, I can do the convert as I populate the volume in almost all cases | 18:51 |
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| jgriffith | markwash: the missing piece is to be able to mount the image in cinder | 18:52 |
| markwash | mounting it R/O in place is a really interesting idea | 18:52 |
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| jgriffith | markwash: I think it could open up some other interesting use cases | 18:52 |
| jgriffith | markwash: but not sure | 18:52 |
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| jgriffith | markwash: so the other side of the coin is using a cinder volume as glance backing store | 18:53 |
| jgriffith | markwash: then that does the R/O attach whever you want | 18:53 |
| jgriffith | markwash: makes fetching a bit easier/faster in some cases | 18:53 |
| jgriffith | markwash: but I'm by no means an expert on glance images, thus I'm bugging you :) | 18:53 |
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| markwash | this is very interesting | 18:54 |
| jgriffith | markwash: you want to ponder the different ideas a bit and regroup later this week? | 18:54 |
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| markwash | I think this could be served by a separate library that knows how to do semi-streaming conversions, and then just plug glance or its backing-store into it | 18:55 |
| markwash | yeah, probably makes sense to ponder a bit | 18:55 |
| jgriffith | markwash: interesting | 18:55 |
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| markwash | we'd need to check for more in the way of ranged reads | 18:55 |
| jgriffith | markwash: the modular idea is interesting as well | 18:56 |
| jgriffith | markwash: so can you explain ranged reads? | 18:56 |
| markwash | jgriffith: oh, just as a way to support more formats to make them streamable to raw | 18:56 |
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| jgriffith | markwash: ahh.. ok | 18:57 |
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| markwash | jgriffith: for example, its possible for an image format to be a tarball with a base image with multiple overlays stored in different files in the archive | 18:57 |
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| markwash | jgriffith: the only common thing with that format that helps is that the metadata file is required to be first in the archive in terms of the streaming sense | 18:57 |
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| markwash | so you can read the first chunks, process the metadata file to figure out where the images are | 18:58 |
| markwash | then download their bitmaps | 18:58 |
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| markwash | then figure out what you actually have to do to read byte 0 of the image | 18:58 |
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| markwash | ranged reads make all that jumping around possible | 18:58 |
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| dolphm | bknudson: should we push no-check-id to i3 given dependency on tempest? | 18:59 |
| markwash | jgriffith: yeah I probably need to sleep on it a bit :-) | 18:59 |
| jgriffith | markwash: ahhh... cool | 18:59 |
| bknudson | dolphm: that sounds like the right thing to do. | 18:59 |
| jgriffith | markwash: awesome, let's touch base later this week | 18:59 |
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| jgriffith | markwash: I'd also like to figure out how to add my device as a glance backing :) | 18:59 |
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| bknudson | dolphm: also, if we want all the calls to identity removed then there will probably be more tempest changes than the one I submitted. | 19:00 |
| jgriffith | markwash: I'll need some help from you on that problably but won't take all your time right now :) | 19:00 |
| markwash | jgriffith: yeah let's talk about that later too, I think there is some good stuff in place but we need to iron out a few kinks | 19:00 |
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| markwash | your understanding of the use cases will probably help a ton to make sure we iron things out the right way | 19:00 |
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| dolphm | bknudson: yeah, i was looking at the other two... fussing with user['tenants'] | 19:01 |
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| jgriffith | markwash: BTW, don't forget we're still working on this too: http://docs.openstack.org/developer/glance/configuring.html#configuring-the-cinder-storage-backend | 19:06 |
| bknudson | running keystone under apache seems to be slower than keystone-all for some reason (this is using devstack setup) | 19:07 |
| dolphm | bknudson: ? | 19:07 |
| bknudson | it's just that creating users, etc, is noticably slower | 19:08 |
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| morganfainberg | bknudson, odd | 19:19 |
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| morganfainberg | bknudson, does this mean you're not going to be in SA? | 19:19 |
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| bknudson | morganfainberg: I don't think I'm going to be in SA. Probably would have heard by now. | 19:19 |
| morganfainberg | bknudson, boo :( | 19:19 |
| morganfainberg | I'm curious why the user creation is so much slower under wsgi | 19:20 |
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| bknudson | it's probably a config thing. I hope it isn't restarting keystone every time. | 19:21 |
| dolphm | bknudson: we'll likely do another in 6 months, with a bit more planning :) | 19:22 |
| bknudson | dolphm: in minneapolis? | 19:22 |
| dolphm | bknudson: are you offering to host? | 19:23 |
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| bknudson | /opt/stack/keystone/keystone/common/wsgi.py:565: DeprecationWarning: BaseException.message has been deprecated as of Python 2.6 | 19:25 |
| bknudson | is there an alternative to BaseException.message? | 19:25 |
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| dolphm | bknudson: didn't we fix that? | 19:26 |
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| bknudson | dolphm: I'm trying not to break it again. | 19:27 |
| dolphm | bknudson: 565 in master uses .args[0] instead of .message | 19:27 |
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| dolphm | bknudson: which should be fine | 19:28 |
| bknudson | dolphm: I thought I tried that and I got the wrong "thing" back... I'll take a look again. | 19:28 |
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| dolphm | bknudson: this probably won't fix anything for you, but i think we were doing this wrong https://review.openstack.org/#/c/66674/ | 19:32 |
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| dolphm | stevebaker: (stalking relmgr channel) that pathset sequence was just proposed against keystone yesterday! :P | 19:42 |
| dolphm | patchset* | 19:42 |
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| dolphm | it's not even 24 hours old yet | 19:43 |
| stevebaker | dolphm: but that is *84000* seconds! ;) | 19:43 |
| dolphm | stevebaker: i haven't looked at the patches yet, but is there some reason to expect they won't land in keystone fairly quickly? | 19:44 |
| dolphm | i saw ayoung already +2'd the first one | 19:45 |
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| stevebaker | dolphm: no, I didn't hear back from shardy about whether he wanted to raise it as blocking, so I assumed yes just in case. We could always ask ttx to not raise it in the meeting | 19:46 |
| dolphm | stevebaker: fair enough | 19:47 |
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| mutex | belliott: long story short, got hooks to work now based on your pointer yesterday about API endpoint vs compute host ;-) | 19:51 |
| mutex | belliott: :-D | 19:51 |
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| carlp | Greetings folks! After spending a few weeks figuring out how the VLAN and GRE ML2 drivers for Neutron work, I wanted to contribute back some documentation. However, I cannot figure out how all the pieces of the documentation fit together. Can someone help me out? | 20:01 |
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| dsantos_ | hi, I was having some problem with glance client and I decided run the image-list command in debug mode to understand the behavior. I've seen that if I create an image and after that I run the command, the image is there (as expected). But if I run the command again specifying --is-public=false the image is still listed. | 20:19 |
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| dsantos_ | I saw that the image is returned by the API call with is_public=true and with is_public=false... So, is it a bug? I don't think it's the expected behavior. | 20:20 |
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| lifeless | hmm, I must be misunderstanding something | 20:23 |
| lifeless | I have a tenant with multiple Members | 20:23 |
| dsantos_ | Also gabriel-bezerra has found this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/glance/+bug/1258342. It seems to be fixed in the newest version but the behavior is still wrong | 20:23 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1258342 in glance "glance /v1.0/images does not return reasonable results" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 20:23 |
| lifeless | and a user with membership in two tenants | 20:23 |
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| lifeless | I want to spawn a VM from that user, in one tenant, to use a network owned by the other tenant | 20:23 |
| lifeless | but neutron net-list as the user, who is a Member of the tenant that owns the network, doesn't show me the network | 20:24 |
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| zzelle | lifeless, it's not possible as far as i know | 20:58 |
| zzelle | resources are per tenant | 20:58 |
| zzelle | except for admins | 20:58 |
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| lifeless | zzelle: sadface :( | 20:59 |
| zzelle | no | 20:59 |
| zzelle | because image something can create a vm on tenant 1 with tenant 2 network ... | 21:00 |
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| zzelle | you are breaking per tenant isolation | 21:00 |
| zzelle | *imagine | 21:01 |
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| _cjones_ | zzelle, lifeless: Not possible. I just went through this excercise. This is expected, and by design. | 21:14 |
| _cjones_ | zzelle: Also, we should abandon the word tenant... and use project. | 21:15 |
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| zzelle | keystone still use tenant_id/name in this API ? | 21:17 |
| _cjones_ | v2, or v3? | 21:17 |
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| zzelle | both | 21:17 |
| _cjones_ | https://github.com/openstack/identity-api/blob/master/openstack-identity-api/v3/src/markdown/identity-api-v3.md | 21:18 |
| _cjones_ | "Tenants" are now known as "projects" | 21:18 |
| dolphm | zzelle: project_id + project_name | 21:19 |
| _cjones_ | So one user may be part of multiple projects, but you can't have objects part of two projects. That doesn't make logical sense. | 21:19 |
| dolphm | _cjones_: ++ | 21:20 |
| zzelle | i know (isolation) | 21:20 |
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| _cjones_ | dolphm: Slowly getting the hang of things here. | 21:21 |
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| _cjones_ | zzelle: What is your real world use case? Perhaps there is something you're trying to do that is valid, but you're going about the wrong way.? | 21:22 |
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| zzelle | _cjones_, euhhh i was responding to lifeless so for me no problem :) | 21:23 |
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| _cjones_ | zzelle, Ah.. oops. Soo lifeless? What are you trying to do and why? I don't quite understand. | 21:25 |
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| _cjones_ | dolphm: Opened that documentation bug that we were discussing yesterday. Added proposed change. If there's stuff I'm missing, let me know and I'll add to it: https://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/+bug/1269160 | 21:48 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1269160 in horizon "Keystone v3 documentation is lacking w.r.t. Domain Token authentication" [Undecided,New] | 21:48 |
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| _cjones_ | dolphm: Changed target from Horizon to Keystone. | 21:56 |
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| dolphm | _cjones_: thanks! | 21:59 |
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| kgriffs | dhellmann: question re uuidutils | 22:17 |
| kgriffs | iirc there was a discussion on the ML about whether to deprecate it | 22:17 |
| kgriffs | what's the latest on that discussion? | 22:18 |
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| kgriffs | (I have a solum patch that wants to bring in uuidutils and I was wondering what to do with it) | 22:18 |
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| kgriffs | dhellmann: I added you as a reviewer here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/65550/ | 22:19 |
| kgriffs | (fwiw) | 22:19 |
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| bauzas | kgriffs: AIUI, there is no plan to deprecate uuidutils, only uuid_utils.generate_uuid() method :) | 22:51 |
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| lbragstad | dolphm: ping? | 23:05 |
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| HT_Sergio | Hey devs. I think I found an issue with a Keystone patch that was (accidently?) changed back in a later commit | 23:14 |
| HT_Sergio | The guys who commited were "openstack-gerrit" and "guangyee" | 23:15 |
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| HT_Sergio | Who can I talk to about this? | 23:16 |
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| HT_Sergio | It's causing an issue that is marked as closed in launchpad, but the patch isn't in master or latest packages | 23:20 |
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| HT_Sergio | This is the issue: https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/1119641 | 23:24 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1119641 in keystone/grizzly "PKI support breaks memcache token backend" [Medium,Fix released] | 23:24 |
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| jamielennox | HT_Sergio: guangyee is gyee | 23:32 |
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| jamielennox | but i don't see his name on it, it looks like it was ayoung's patch | 23:33 |
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| jamielennox | HT_Sergio: what is the problem? | 23:33 |
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| gyee | jamielennox, my name show up in git blame? :) | 23:44 |
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| HT_Sergio | gyee: I see a patch you committed removed the use of token.unique_id() which might be causing issues | 23:50 |
| HT_Sergio | https://github.com/openstack/keystone/commit/c238ace30981877e5991874c5b193ea7d5107419#diff-dfb6f1d0c6afd9ce50f61e04ce2d3655 | 23:50 |
| HT_Sergio | I was about to create a launchpad bug | 23:50 |
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| gyee | HT_Sergio, what's the issue? | 23:52 |
| HT_Sergio | I'm getting this: MemcachedKeyLengthError: Key length is > 250 | 23:52 |
| HT_Sergio | with memcache as a token store | 23:52 |
| gyee | token_id is a hash now so it shouldn't be that big | 23:53 |
| gyee | you see any traceback in the logs? | 23:53 |
| HT_Sergio | yes | 23:53 |
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| HT_Sergio | http://pastebin.com/L34qV2mv | 23:54 |
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| gyee | that's middleware | 23:54 |
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| gyee | HT_Sergio, https://github.com/openstack/python-keystoneclient/blob/master/keystoneclient/middleware/auth_token.py#L831 | 23:57 |
| HT_Sergio | So I guess cms_hash_token() is doing something strange and producing big hashes | 23:58 |
| gyee | token_id shouldn't been hashed if its a PKI token | 23:58 |
| gyee | should've | 23:58 |
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| HT_Sergio | I'm not using PKI token | 23:59 |
| jamielennox | i've not seen that in auth_token before | 23:59 |
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| jamielennox | is there logging around that traceback that prints out what the user_token is | 23:59 |
| jamielennox | ? | 23:59 |
| gyee | uuid token shouldn't be that big | 23:59 |
| HT_Sergio | let me turn on debugging and see | 23:59 |
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