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ayoung | so if we do groups, and everyone in a group has a symmetric key, I think we need strict group membership. Otherwise, we are handing out keys to anything with a matching name. | 00:06 |
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ayoung | and if anything can say "hi, my name is joe.blag" it will get any key for joe | 00:07 |
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morganfainberg | ayoung, "Hi my name is ayoung, can has ayoung's key?" ;) | 00:08 |
ayoung | morganfainberg, sure, here ya go! | 00:08 |
morganfainberg | woot | 00:08 |
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morganfainberg | dolphm, ping | 00:27 |
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gyee | morganfainberg, I have more comments for you https://review.openstack.org/#/c/59126/ | 00:30 |
gyee | sorry | 00:30 |
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morganfainberg | gyee, don't be sorry, it's a lot of code, i expect it to need work. | 00:31 |
bknudson | gyee, morganfainberg: I think this is ready - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/49460/ | 00:32 |
bknudson | it removes a bunch of code | 00:32 |
morganfainberg | bknudson, i'll check it out in a few minutes :) | 00:32 |
morganfainberg | bknudson, oh wow, that does remove a ton of code | 00:32 |
bknudson | (by using oslo-incubator) | 00:32 |
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gyee | morganfainberg, bknudson, I'll be AFK for a little while, I'll review them tonight | 00:37 |
morganfainberg | gyee, sounds good. i'll have another patchset here shortly addressing those comments. thanks for the input man! | 00:37 |
bknudson | gyee: thank you. no real hurry here. | 00:37 |
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ayoung | bknudson, +122, -500, I'm ready to ACK it just for that | 01:00 |
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jamielennox | ayoung: not really, you still need a key issued in the name of the host - which can only be done by a cloud admin | 01:12 |
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jamielennox | so you need to use a valid key for scheduler.x.y to get the group key for scheduler | 01:13 |
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bknudson | morganfainberg: need to put the requirements.txt fix back to stable/ ? | 01:28 |
morganfainberg | bknudson, oh i think we do. | 01:28 |
bknudson | yuck | 01:28 |
morganfainberg | bknudson, perhaps. | 01:28 |
morganfainberg | bknudson, *looks* | 01:28 |
morganfainberg | ugh, looks like. | 01:29 |
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morganfainberg | bknudson, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/61534/ havana | 01:30 |
morganfainberg | bknudson, you want to propose the fix for stable/grizzly? | 01:30 |
morganfainberg | or want me to? | 01:31 |
bknudson | morganfainberg: go ahead, you know more about it than I do. | 01:31 |
bknudson | do you have to update tox.ini, too? | 01:31 |
morganfainberg | hm. only for local doc builds | 01:31 |
morganfainberg | shouldn't affect gate | 01:31 |
bknudson | was Jenkins supposed to do this automatically? | 01:31 |
morganfainberg | at least thats what clarkb says | 01:31 |
morganfainberg | grizzly doesn't get the auto-proposal i don't think | 01:32 |
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morganfainberg | gyee, new patch for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/59126 posted. i'll do the rebase and the memcachelock testing work a bit later need to go run some errands. | 01:44 |
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morganfainberg | bknudson, posting the pin patchset and rebasing my other grizzly one on it then heading out, will look at the SQL one when I get home tonight | 01:45 |
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bknudson | morganfainberg: thanks! | 01:46 |
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morganfainberg | bknudson, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/61623/ | 01:49 |
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ayoung | bknudson, I don't think we can just drop the sql connection config value | 02:46 |
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bknudson | ayoung: it's deprecated | 02:54 |
ayoung | bknudson, but you just drop it | 02:54 |
ayoung | bknudson, we need a migration path | 02:55 |
ayoung | otherwise we are going to break upon upgrade | 02:55 |
bknudson | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/49460/23/keystone/common/sql/migration.py | 02:55 |
bknudson | oops, wrong one | 02:55 |
ayoung | whew | 02:55 |
bknudson | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/61609/1/keystone/openstack/common/db/sqlalchemy/session.py | 02:56 |
bknudson | line 280 | 02:56 |
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ayoung | bknudson, so the oslo one does it conversion already? | 02:57 |
bknudson | ayoung: it should! | 02:57 |
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ayoung | bknudson, so if I have an existing config file with [sql] connection it will still work? I'd like to see a test for that | 02:58 |
ayoung | bknudson, you can even leave one of the old SQL tests in place with that and I'd be happy | 02:58 |
bknudson | ayoung: good idea | 02:58 |
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ayoung | bknudson, this is nice work, though. THat is my only nit | 02:59 |
ayoung | well, gnat...maybe a chigger | 02:59 |
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stevemar | jamielennox ping | 05:28 |
jamielennox | stevemar: hey | 05:29 |
stevemar | jamielennox, hey, i just added you as a review for adding oauth to keystoneclient (new patch) | 05:29 |
stevemar | jamielennox, some brief info... | 05:30 |
stevemar | i knocked off the bits that had messy urls (if you recall, they were /users/$userid/access_tokens/$access_token_id | 05:30 |
stevemar | the main flow to make oauth usable is to have the 4 steps (create request token, authorize request token, create access token, authenticate access token). | 05:31 |
stevemar | and none of those have weird urls.. | 05:31 |
jamielennox | ok, that should make it easier | 05:31 |
stevemar | also, using a new lib (the new one that we will migrate the server side too, eventually) | 05:32 |
jamielennox | then we can worry about the little bits later | 05:32 |
stevemar | new oauthlib* | 05:32 |
stevemar | yes | 05:32 |
stevemar | exactly my thoughts :) | 05:32 |
jamielennox | why the switch? | 05:32 |
stevemar | old one is unmaintained | 05:32 |
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stevemar | it was brought up at the summit, to switch it from oauth2 to oauthlib | 05:32 |
jamielennox | bugger that was quick | 05:32 |
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stevemar | the client side is easy to switch over libraries | 05:33 |
stevemar | it's the server side that will be a pain (potentially) | 05:33 |
stevemar | anyway | 05:33 |
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stevemar | point is, no more funky urls, because those calls weren't really super necessary | 05:34 |
stevemar | i've also made change to openstackclient, and tried the whole flow using a live server, so i know it works, yay | 05:34 |
jamielennox | against the common client | 05:35 |
jamielennox | nice, i need to look into that a bit more | 05:35 |
jamielennox | i know the idea, but i haven't contributed in any way | 05:35 |
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stevemar | its neat stuff | 05:35 |
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fandikurnia01 | hi all | 08:45 |
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fandikurnia01 | does openstack can be using multiple vlan /trunks for floating ip with many subnet ? | 08:46 |
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fandikurnia01 | hello, | 09:27 |
fandikurnia01 | have you implement floating ip with multivlan /trunks | 09:27 |
fandikurnia01 | ? | 09:27 |
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notmyname | ttx: ping | 15:30 |
ttx | notmyname: heya | 15:31 |
notmyname | ttx: sha for 1.11.0 is ddd8c7358dc6ba285f2f330998f97655575a5676 | 15:31 |
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ttx | ok, on its way | 15:31 |
notmyname | ttx: ie the current tip of milestone-proposed | 15:31 |
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notmyname | ttx: thanks | 15:31 |
ttx | notmyname: will let you know when up, you can prepare an email announcement in the mean time | 15:31 |
notmyname | ttx: I will do so. thanks | 15:32 |
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ttx | notmyname: all set @ https://launchpad.net/swift/icehouse/1.11.0 | 15:36 |
notmyname | ttx: thanks. I'll get out an email later today | 15:37 |
ttx | notmyname: ok | 15:37 |
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sileht | markmc, hi, I have updated my topic about notification listener of oslo.messaging | 16:09 |
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markmc | sileht, yep, thanks - might be Friday before I get to review it again | 16:10 |
sileht | markmc, cool thx ! | 16:10 |
markmc | sileht, thank you! :) | 16:11 |
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dstanek | having a weird issue with pbr; if i put a [pbr] section in my setup.cfg i get errors running build_sphinx | 16:21 |
dstanek | has anyone seen that before? | 16:21 |
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hdd | dstanek, something like this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-ci/+bug/1259511 | 16:27 |
uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1259511 in openstack-ci "sphinx docs gating jobs are broken (source_dir must be a directory)" [Critical,Fix released] | 16:27 |
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dstanek | hdd: no, that's because of the new sphinx version | 16:28 |
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dstanek | hdd: like this http://logs.openstack.org/29/52929/6/check/gate-keystone-docs/54d716b/ | 16:29 |
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dstanek | hdd: all i'm looking to do is build apidoc | 16:30 |
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dstanek | hdd: pbr has an option to autogenerate it, but it doesn't seem to work | 16:30 |
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dstanek | i wrote a simple sphinx extension that basically run sphinx-apidoc, but i'm not sure if that's the right approach | 16:31 |
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emagana | Is the third party plugins meeting on: openstack-meeting-alt? | 17:00 |
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shardy | dolphm: hi | 17:59 |
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shardy | dolphm: I have a question added to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/61046/ re your deprecated method remark, when you get a moment :) | 18:06 |
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hartsocks | ayoung: ping | 18:12 |
ayoung | hartsocks, is this the full half hour argument or just the five minutes? | 18:13 |
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hartsocks | ayoung: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/vmware_security_strategy | 18:14 |
hartsocks | Just review and make sure I've not mis-characterized anything. Thanks. | 18:14 |
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ayoung | hartsocks, ah, just the 5 minute, I see. looks good | 18:14 |
hartsocks | Thanks. | 18:15 |
hartsocks | I will probably want to defer most of this to the next summit. | 18:15 |
morganfainberg | ayoung, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/59126/ should have most of the concerns smashed out of it now. if you want to stay on it. i'll be adding the needed testing in the patch down the chain i haven't rebased yet today (I hope) | 18:15 |
ayoung | hartsocks, and, in case you missed my reference and were taking offense: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Argument_Sketch | 18:15 |
morganfainberg | ayoung, hit on the head lessons? | 18:16 |
* hartsocks has become enlightened | 18:16 | |
ayoung | morganfainberg, I think that is Kids in the Hall, not Monty Python | 18:16 |
ayoung | THe Frantics, actually | 18:16 |
ayoung | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boot_to_the_Head | 18:16 |
morganfainberg | ayoung, no no, there is the line about hitting on the head lessons in the argument clinic sketch ;) | 18:17 |
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morganfainberg | Ed_Gruberman, Spreaders: Oh no, that's next door. It's being-hit-on-the-head lessons in here | 18:18 |
morganfainberg | Ed_Gruberman, ;) | 18:18 |
morganfainberg | Ed_Gruberman, though Boot to the Head is classic. | 18:18 |
Ed_Gruberman | morganfainberg, must be a different version. I think in the one I know it is "This is abuse" | 18:18 |
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morganfainberg | Ed_Gruberman, abuse is at the start, hitting on the head is the end. | 18:18 |
Ed_Gruberman | Ah | 18:18 |
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Mr_Barnard_Rm_12 | morganfainberg, Ah, I think that is from the origianly Flying Circus, most of the clips I've seen cut it after "I've had enough of this" "no you haven't" | 18:21 |
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morganfainberg | ayoung, yeah. that makes sense. | 18:22 |
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topol | dolphm, you there? | 18:25 |
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topol | dolphm, RE Keystone Hackathon. Do you recommend a rental car? | 18:25 |
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bnemec | mordred: Not urgent, but when you get a chance: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/61784/ | 18:37 |
bnemec | I think you said we shouldn't be doing versioning that way. | 18:37 |
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mordred | bnemec: looking | 18:37 |
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dstanek | topol: where are you staying? | 18:38 |
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topol | dstanek, dont know yet. just trying to get things rolling. Hoping myself and stevemar can go. But we may need dolphm to give us a tour of the alamo to seal the deal :-) | 18:39 |
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dstanek | topol: :-) | 18:40 |
topol | dstanek, where is everyone else staying? | 18:40 |
dstanek | topol: you may want a car - the courtyard has a shuttle to and from RS, but you have to be on one of the shceduled times | 18:40 |
topol | dstanek,. done. Im getting a car :-) | 18:40 |
dstanek | plus there isn't much to eat in walking distance that i know of | 18:41 |
bnemec | mordred: Thanks. Is there a wiki page or something I can point people to when this sort of thing comes up? | 18:41 |
bnemec | I don't know anything about our release process and I don't want to -1 without an explanation. :-) | 18:41 |
dstanek | topol: i've only been there 3 times so dolphm would know better | 18:41 |
topol | dsanek. I really want to see the basement of the alamo :-). Bike was stolen many years ago. heard it might be there | 18:41 |
topol | dstanek | 18:41 |
mordred | bnemec: probably - but I don't know where off the top of my head - ttx do you know? | 18:41 |
dstanek | topol: :-) if you see a trucker named Marge you need to walk the other way | 18:42 |
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topol | dstanek, it was a dark and stormy night.... :-) | 18:43 |
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morganfainberg | topol, there is a gist dolph sent out w/ a hotel name | 18:46 |
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morganfainberg | topol, let me see if i can find it. but i haven't booked hotel yet (about to book flight, worry about expensing it later...) | 18:46 |
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dstanek | morganfainberg: the hotel i've liked best so far is the valencia | 18:46 |
morganfainberg | dstanek, good to know | 18:46 |
topol | morganfainberg . I have that. But there were two hotels listed. Wasnt sure. If everyone picked one | 18:47 |
dstanek | but you'll need a car for sure | 18:47 |
morganfainberg | dstanek, nod. | 18:47 |
topol | ds | 18:47 |
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topol | dstanek, nod! | 18:47 |
morganfainberg | wonder what $5 / day gets you for a rental car these days :P | 18:47 |
morganfainberg | >.> | 18:47 |
dstanek | morganfainberg: probably a bicycle | 18:48 |
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morganfainberg | the real debate i'm having is fly out of LAX and get direct/cheaper flight but pay more for parking... or fly out of Burbank and have 1 or 2 layovers but it's a 15min drive from home instead of 45m-2h | 18:49 |
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* morganfainberg doesn't think I've mentioned how much i hate LA traffic and why i walk to/from work. | 18:49 | |
morganfainberg | today. | 18:50 |
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bknudson | morganfainberg: ride the bus | 18:50 |
bknudson | (I've not been to LA) | 18:50 |
morganfainberg | bknudson, i think the shortest bus route to LA would be like 3h+ | 18:50 |
morganfainberg | from where i am | 18:50 |
morganfainberg | it's bad. | 18:50 |
morganfainberg | LA doesn't have real public transportation (we're more like a giant suburb than a "Real City"â„¢) | 18:51 |
bknudson | sounds longer than the flight | 18:51 |
morganfainberg | bknudson, yep. | 18:51 |
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topol | morganfainberg, dont forget the glorious LA River. Nice | 18:52 |
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morganfainberg | topol, LOL | 18:52 |
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topol | my sister use to live there many years ago. my cousin lives in burbank. I used to drive on those freeways... brutal | 18:53 |
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topol | morganfainberg, ever goto Jerrys deli? | 18:57 |
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dstanek | morganfainberg: bknudson: topol: let me know which hotel you book | 19:00 |
bknudson | dstanek: I'll be lucky to get approval | 19:01 |
morganfainberg | topol, I used to go to jerrys when i lived in marina del rey ... and previously when i worked in beverly hills. | 19:01 |
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morganfainberg | topol, but there isn't one nearby so, i don't go (plus i think the quality isn't quite as good anymore) | 19:01 |
morganfainberg | dstanek, will do | 19:01 |
dstanek | bknudson: that's unfortunate | 19:02 |
morganfainberg | topol, I'm in Pasadena now | 19:02 |
topol | morganfainberg, my sister lived in apt bldg (that became a condo) right across from the cheesecake factoryin marina del rey. pretty area | 19:02 |
morganfainberg | topol, I lived down the street from that building. | 19:02 |
morganfainberg | topol, was quite a while ago | 19:02 |
topol | morganfainberg. I hear ya | 19:03 |
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lifeless | sdague: hi | 19:12 |
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lifeless | sdague: question for you - https://review.openstack.org/61137 - this is a meme I've hit a couple of times, that tempest puts inordinate stress on the sytem. | 19:12 |
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lifeless | sdague: I don't believe it does - but I thought I'd ask rather than assuming :) | 19:12 |
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sdague | lifeless: I agree, tempest d-g is actually pretty light load | 19:15 |
sdague | max 4 simultaneous requests | 19:15 |
lifeless | ok | 19:15 |
lifeless | I might send a mail to the list to reinforce that? | 19:15 |
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sdague | yes, that would be cool | 19:15 |
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sdague | I think the only valid point is that the cloud guests might be on the slow side | 19:16 |
sdague | but still, they aren't that slow | 19:16 |
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lifeless | done | 19:23 |
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dsantos_ | hi, how can I get a domain scoped token? | 19:40 |
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dsantos_ | I tried "scope": {"domain": {"name": "Default"}} in the json | 19:41 |
dsantos_ | but it didn't work | 19:41 |
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isd | Is it possible to run multiple instances of the same openstack service (e.g. 2 cinders) on the same box with devstack? | 19:52 |
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pmathews | termie: ping? | 19:56 |
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annegentle | anyone know if a new admin api port change for nova made it through? I thought russellb had made such a change in icehouse but I can't find it now. | 20:04 |
russellb | annegentle: it got abandoned | 20:05 |
russellb | annegentle: no doc change needed, pretend that never happened :) | 20:05 |
annegentle | russellb: WOO to the HOO! | 20:06 |
annegentle | russellb: happily | 20:06 |
russellb | :) | 20:06 |
annegentle | :() | 20:06 |
annegentle | I mean :) | 20:06 |
russellb | heh, i was so conflicted there for a moment | 20:06 |
russellb | IS SHE HAPPY OR SAD | 20:06 |
lifeless | ALL THE EMOTIONS | 20:07 |
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annegentle | lol | 20:07 |
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mriedem | dripton: ping | 20:38 |
dripton | mriedem: pong | 20:38 |
mriedem | dripton: hey, for test_check here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/55572/5/migrate/tests/changeset/test_changeset.py | 20:38 |
mriedem | 'data' is a reserved word in db2, | 20:38 |
mriedem | so i can either enclose that in quotes for db2 testing or just rename the column for the test, which would you prefer? | 20:38 |
mriedem | column name of 'foo' seems good enough to me | 20:38 |
dripton | I agree; the column name shouldn't be critical. | 20:39 |
mriedem | dripton: ok, thanks | 20:39 |
mriedem | bknudson: ^ | 20:39 |
bknudson | I think part of the problem is that sqlalchemy requires bare SQL in CheckConstraint: sqlalchemy.schema.CheckConstraint('data > 4') | 20:39 |
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bknudson | so sqlalchemy dialect can't "fix" the column name | 20:40 |
bknudson | using a different name that doesn't require escaping should work. | 20:40 |
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mriedem | bknudson: that's what i'm going to do | 20:40 |
mriedem | s/data/foo/ | 20:40 |
mriedem | onto the FK test fail | 20:40 |
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stevemar | hartsocks - just reading your email now - will reply asap | 21:00 |
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harlowja | dhellmann_ yt | 21:08 |
harlowja | got a stevedore question | 21:08 |
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angdraug | can anyone interested in cinder have a look at https://review.openstack.org/58870 ? | 21:34 |
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ekarlso | (win 39 | 21:35 |
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lifeless | sdague: I've just sent a mail to the -dev list about bug triage states, would totally love any thoughts you have. | 21:48 |
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sdague | lifeless: ok, though after a day of triaging tempest bugs aggressively, I'm sort of in a Grand Theft Auto mood when it comes to bugs. So you probably want me to calm down first :) | 21:55 |
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lifeless | sdague: fair enough :) | 21:55 |
sdague | I think I also might have an atypical pov on how I find bug trackers useful | 21:56 |
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lifeless | sdague: if you had some time to do a voice call, I'd love a high bandwidth rendition | 22:02 |
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lifeless | sdague: I'm also opinionated and perhaps atypical | 22:02 |
lifeless | sdague: sufficiently so that I have a side project making a new tracker :) | 22:02 |
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sdague | lifeless: you should make that side project storyboard :) | 22:03 |
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lifeless | sdague: storyboard is fundamentally uninteresting in the tracker space; it's a better knife | 22:03 |
sdague | fair | 22:03 |
lifeless | I want a chainsaw | 22:04 |
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dolphm | russellb: i just spelled your name wrong on -dev and realized immediately after pressing send... sorry lol | 22:27 |
russellb | dolphm: I AM SO UPSET | 22:27 |
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russellb | dolphm: haha, what's wrong with my job? | 22:29 |
dolphm | russellb: i'd like to propose that you drop the second L in your name because it'd much more better | 22:29 |
SpamapS | lifeless: I'm kind of struggling with using fixtures.StringStream to read what has been written to stderr. halp? | 22:29 |
dolphm | russellb: your hat is bigger than mine | 22:29 |
SpamapS | lifeless: http://paste.openstack.org/show/54915 | 22:29 |
russellb | dolphm: it's really heavy, too | 22:29 |
russellb | starts to hurt after a while | 22:29 |
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SpamapS | this is what I get for trying to fix a tiny bug | 22:30 |
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dolphm | russellb: i like my yarmulke | 22:32 |
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lifeless | SpamapS: ok so | 22:34 |
SpamapS | Ignore my 'assertLen' ;) | 22:34 |
lifeless | SpamapS: it's possible that sys.stderr isn't being dereferenced after you patch | 22:34 |
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SpamapS | lifeless: the trouble is that I get told TextIOWrapper doesn't have a getvalue method | 22:36 |
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lifeless | oh | 22:37 |
lifeless | so it doesn't | 22:37 |
lifeless | text streams you need to unwrap | 22:37 |
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SpamapS | lifeless: meh ok I'm about ready to say nevermind and just fix the bug :-P | 22:39 |
SpamapS | because it does look like something is pretending to answer with a non-empty answer | 22:39 |
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SpamapS | which is why we have the bug | 22:39 |
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lifeless | SpamapS: http://docs.python.org/dev/library/io.html#io.TextIOWrapper | 22:40 |
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lifeless | SpamapS: so .buffer is the ByteString() | 22:41 |
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SpamapS | lifeless: why is this complicated? :-/ | 22:41 |
lifeless | SpamapS: and you probably want to call flush() on the io stream first | 22:41 |
lifeless | SpamapS: because Python3 | 22:41 |
SpamapS | yeah I figured as much. | 22:41 |
SpamapS | lifeless: almost have some tests ready for you to poke at for nova preserve_ephemeral change btw | 22:42 |
* SpamapS needs a mental break tho | 22:42 | |
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ayoung | dolphm, I'm trying out something with .venv. I have updated the python-keystoneclient venv (./runtest.sh -u) and then, in a diffferent directory, I am writing a python script that attempts to import and use keystone client. I get | 22:44 |
ayoung | @six.add_metaclass(abc.ABCMeta) | 22:44 |
ayoung | AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'add_metaclass' | 22:45 |
ayoung | I've activated the venv... | 22:45 |
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ayoung | does the venv trump the site-packages? I've got python-six-1.3.0-1.fc19.noarch installed, an the venv has 1.4 | 22:47 |
ayoung | 1.4.1 actually | 22:47 |
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ayoung | morganfainberg, ^^ same issue...how can I run a development Keystone client out of a venv? | 22:48 |
morganfainberg | dolphm, email i just sent, I am not advocating your job be harder, I swear! ;) | 22:49 |
morganfainberg | ayoung, activate the venv before running the client? not sure if that works | 22:49 |
ayoung | morganfainberg, I did | 22:49 |
morganfainberg | ayoung, and that isn't working? | 22:49 |
morganfainberg | hmm. | 22:49 |
ayoung | morganfainberg, I have to admin, I am not certain what a venv is supposed to be doing. I suspect the problem is that when I run python from the command line, iti s not venv aware... | 22:50 |
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jamielennox | ayoung: do `which python`, it'll be obvious | 22:51 |
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ayoung | /opt/stack/python-keystoneclient/.venv/bin/python | 22:52 |
ayoung | jamielennox, I assume you run this kind of thing a lot, to test the client, right? | 22:52 |
jamielennox | yea, i don't use venv directly though | 22:52 |
ayoung | jamielennox, can you try this: | 22:52 |
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ayoung | I'll fpaste | 22:53 |
jamielennox | use python-virtualenvwrapper from yum | 22:53 |
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jamielennox | there are tutorials for it and i just find it easier than venv | 22:54 |
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ayoung | I will try it | 22:55 |
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ayoung | jamielennox, this page does v2...do we have a v3 tutorial yet http://docs.openstack.org/developer/python-keystoneclient/using-api.html ? | 22:56 |
jamielennox | not in doc afaik | 22:56 |
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ayoung | jamielennox, ok...I'll work on that. | 22:57 |
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jamielennox | ayoung: what do you mean with: "We need a unique identifier for the certificate, so that we can avoid only allowing exactly one token signer. I think it should be the endpoint Id." | 23:02 |
jamielennox | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/60727/4 | 23:02 |
ayoung | GET /OS-SIMPLE-CERT/certificates/signing | 23:02 |
ayoung | jamielennox, I think it should be | 23:02 |
ayoung | GET /OS-SIMPLE-CERT/certificates/signing/{endpointid} | 23:02 |
ayoung | or even just | 23:02 |
ayoung | GET /OS-SIMPLE-CERT/certificates/{endpointid} | 23:03 |
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ayoung | if we don't want to distinguish, but I think I like the first version beter | 23:03 |
ayoung | better | 23:03 |
jamielennox | which endpoint are you refering to? | 23:03 |
ayoung | jamielennox, The keystone server that signed the token | 23:03 |
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ayoung | jamielennox, it could also be based on the certificate fingerprint | 23:03 |
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ayoung | that may make more sense, as that information is extractable from the signed token | 23:04 |
jamielennox | does the keystone server that signed the certificate know it's endpoint id? | 23:04 |
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ayoung | jamielennox, not right now it doesn't | 23:05 |
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ayoung | jamielennox, I'm willing to listen to suggestions, just want to make sure it is something sane | 23:05 |
jamielennox | and there is a signature on the CMS doc, is there a fingerprint as well? i thought that would have been excluded as the cert should normally be included | 23:06 |
jamielennox | ayoung: i don't like that it exists at all - it's just if we deprecate the v2 API then we need something in its place until we have a proper story | 23:06 |
morganfainberg | ayoung, ah. | 23:07 |
ayoung | jamielennox, fingerprint is in there | 23:07 |
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morganfainberg | ayoung, i should figure out how that all works myself (venvs and the like) | 23:07 |
jamielennox | ok, it's been a while | 23:07 |
jamielennox | http://virtualenvwrapper.readthedocs.org/en/latest/ | 23:08 |
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jamielennox | hmm even that doc is a bit over complicated | 23:08 |
ayoung | jamielennox, this is the stuff jdennis was working on fixing. We need to change the process to make the token URL safe, and then we should be able to verify the token from the comand line | 23:08 |
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dstanek | bknudson: i'll have a new doc patch posted in just a few minutes; just waiting for the tests to pass | 23:08 |
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jamielennox | we can cmd line verify a token without it being URL safe (v3) | 23:09 |
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jdennis | you just got my attention, what is the issue? | 23:10 |
ayoung | jdennis, you had a patch for cleaning up the token format, right? | 23:10 |
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jdennis | yes | 23:10 |
ayoung | URL encoding IAW some standard | 23:10 |
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jdennis | yes | 23:10 |
jdennis | are folks hitting a problem? | 23:11 |
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ayoung | jdennis, not so much as we are discussing how to do the certifcate fetching, and I was explaining what you hit... | 23:11 |
ayoung | I'd like to move your patch along, though | 23:11 |
ayoung | link? | 23:11 |
ayoung | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/49453/ | 23:12 |
ayoung | can you unabandon that? | 23:12 |
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jdennis | hold on ... , oh btw I've been heads down again with freeradius work for RHEL 7 | 23:12 |
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ayoung | actually, I think we need that in client first anyway | 23:12 |
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ayoung | jdennis, NP...I can follow what you did. I'll make a client version | 23:13 |
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jdennis | ayoung: restored | 23:13 |
ayoung | jamielennox, we can use the python ASN library to read the token without having to do a second Popen. | 23:14 |
jdennis | ayoung: the fix in the cms code is simple, but it depends on the base64utils and pemutils modules | 23:14 |
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ayoung | jdennis, yes. We'll put all of that into client, not server, and then have the server consume the client code. It will depend on the work to clean up the tests we discussed on Monday | 23:15 |
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jdennis | ayoung: are you suggesting parsing ASN.1 just to get the cert fingerprint? | 23:16 |
ayoung | jdennis, yes | 23:16 |
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jamielennox | jdennis: just for the slow amongst us, you've converted the pem cert back to binary then urlsafe base64ed the result | 23:16 |
jdennis | ayoung: ASN.1 is hard, why not use openssl to get it? much easier | 23:17 |
jamielennox | isn't that achievable with a s/-/_ (i can't remember the urlsafe chars) | 23:17 |
ayoung | jdennis, I don't want to do a second popen | 23:17 |
jamielennox | ayoung: you can use the openssl lib | 23:17 |
jamielennox | though not sure if that exposes fingerprint now that i think about it | 23:17 |
ayoung | jamielennox, true, now that it is GIL safe... | 23:17 |
jamielennox | ayoung: only SSL is GIL safe | 23:18 |
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jamielennox | but doing an ASN1 decode probably doesn't require unlocking | 23:18 |
jdennis | jamielennox: yes, the cert binary data is urlsafe base64 encoded and then the padding is stripped | 23:18 |
ayoung | jamielennox, there is an ASN1 lib for python I was going to try first | 23:18 |
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jamielennox | ayoung: i know the one - but does it have a CMS pattern in it? | 23:19 |
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jamielennox | i'd prefer not to have to implement that ourselves | 23:19 |
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jdennis | I agree with jamielennox, you don't want to implement ASN.1 parsing yourself, use a library | 23:20 |
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jamielennox | jdennis: from memory pyasn1 has x509 and other basic patterns in it | 23:20 |
ayoung | jdennis, the parsing is done, but I am not certain if it is CMS savvy | 23:20 |
jamielennox | but CMS i don't think is common enough yet | 23:20 |
jamielennox | ayoung: i don't see it: http://pyasn1.cvs.sourceforge.net/viewvc/pyasn1/pyasn1-modules/pyasn1_modules/ | 23:22 |
ayoung | no 5652 | 23:23 |
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ayoung | er maybe 2630 | 23:23 |
ayoung | nope. | 23:23 |
jamielennox | 5652, 2630, 3369 or 3852 | 23:24 |
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ayoung | nope | 23:24 |
jamielennox | CMS is much under appreciated | 23:24 |
jdennis | openssl cms -certsout :-) | 23:25 |
jamielennox | jdennis: the problem is we stripped the cert already | 23:25 |
ayoung | jdennis, just trying to avoid tying ourselves to openssl in yet another way, so that NSS is a possibility in the future | 23:25 |
jamielennox | there is no cert in the CMS doc, which is why we have to retrieve it in the first place | 23:26 |
jamielennox | ayoung, jdennis: next token format is going to be defined in ASN1 :) | 23:26 |
jdennis | right, I forgot it was stripped, | 23:26 |
ayoung | jamielennox, SAML | 23:26 |
jamielennox | ayoung: because we don't have enough problems with it's size? | 23:26 |
ayoung | right | 23:27 |
ayoung | I hope there will be no "next token syntax" | 23:27 |
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jamielennox | ayoung: there will at some point be a need to trim it down and figure out the service catalog | 23:27 |
jamielennox | i just don't know what to do about it | 23:27 |
ayoung | jamielennox, ++ | 23:27 |
jdennis | I'm behind in my email reading, why do you need the fingerprint of the signing cert? | 23:28 |
jamielennox | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/59546/6/openstack-identity-api/v3/src/markdown/identity-api-v3-os-revoke-ext.md | 23:28 |
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jamielennox | ahh, not that one | 23:28 |
jamielennox | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/60727/4 | 23:28 |
ayoung | jdennis, we need to figure out which cert signed it. Right now, we only allow one cert | 23:28 |
jamielennox | in v2 we have a http interface to download the cert | 23:29 |
ayoung | but that doesn't support for example round robin Keystone | 23:29 |
ayoung | or some other load balancing scheme | 23:29 |
jamielennox | (the other link i have open cause i disagree with your ordering concern) | 23:29 |
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jdennis | ayoung, jamielennox: do you really want a fingerprint, why not an <issuer,serial> pair? That's the identifying information used in most X509 to identify certs | 23:31 |
jamielennox | ayoung: so, do we need the CA cert at all in this case - can we just supply the entire chain based on the fingerprint | 23:31 |
jamielennox | jdennis: same problem - i don't think issuer,serial is stored in the CMS if the cert is gone | 23:32 |
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ayoung | jdennis, I'm not tied to any one, so long as the data is in the token already | 23:32 |
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ayoung | jamielennox, I think that the OpenSSL CLI needed the CA cert to be explicitly specified, but if we can work around that somehow, I'm OK with that | 23:32 |
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jamielennox | jdennis: actually - its a choice | 23:33 |
jamielennox | http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5652#section-5.3 | 23:33 |
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jamielennox | ayoung: so SKI isn't guaranteed either | 23:34 |
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ayoung | jamielennox, you mean the fingerprint? | 23:35 |
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jamielennox | subject key identifier | 23:36 |
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ayoung | jamielennox, yeah, that is why I wanted to decrypt a token and see what was actually in there | 23:36 |
jdennis | jamielennox: but that's what's in the CMS, how is that relevant for the purpose of matching the signer to the document, just as long as you correctly pair them it shouldn't matter | 23:37 |
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jamielennox | jdennis: it's relevant to how you can use the signer information to retrieve the certificate that signed the token | 23:37 |
ayoung | jdennis, right. We wouldnt not be falsly validating tokens, but we would want to make sure that we validated a token only against the right certificate. Its going to be an expensive operation, and we wnat to get it right on the first pass | 23:38 |
jamielennox | ayoung was suggesting we take that value and use it as part of the GET request to actually download the cert | 23:38 |
jdennis | jamielennox: duh, makes sense now | 23:38 |
jamielennox | i think the reason this feels wrong is its a generally bad idea | 23:39 |
jamielennox | but i don't know what to replace it with | 23:39 |
jamielennox | auth_token relies on being able to download the certs from somewhere and as much as we should say in a large deploymen that you should control those with puppet or something we need the simple case | 23:40 |
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jamielennox | ayoung: the -keyid on openssl cms enforces using subject key identifier in the signerinfo | 23:44 |
ayoung | jamielennox, we need to be able to match the token to the cert even if it is already downloaded | 23:44 |
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SpamapS | hrm, so the fakes make this complicated. :-P | 23:44 |
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ayoung | , I'm going to head out. jdennis jamielennox thanks...I think we are all in sync on this | 23:45 |
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dstanek | bknudson: my fun https://bugs.launchpad.net/pbr/+bug/1260495 | 23:52 |
uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1260495 in pbr "Setting autodoc_tree_index_modules makes documentation builds fail" [Undecided,New] | 23:52 |
bknudson | dstanek: is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/52929/ wip or ready to go? | 23:52 |
bknudson | pbr is Python Build Reasonableness | 23:53 |
bknudson | I never would have guessed | 23:53 |
dstanek | bknudson: i have a question on your comment | 23:53 |
dstanek | oops i never clicked review | 23:54 |
dstanek | bknudson: that question and i'm going to update the commit message to say the extension is temporary | 23:54 |
bknudson | dstanek: dolphm wrote https://github.com/openstack/keystone/blob/master/doc/README.rst | 23:55 |
bknudson | or he cleaned it up from the default | 23:56 |
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bknudson | dstanek: I think that having READMEs in directories is helpful, so would prefer it's there. | 23:56 |
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dstanek | bknudson: i updated the README.txt and commit message | 23:59 |
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