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| sandywalsh_ | ekarlso, no, ceilometer isn't near it yet ... but we're trying. Here's the plan http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8zZtSL0t00 | 00:04 |
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| ekarlso | sandywalsh_: you think during icehouse will do ? ^ | 00:06 |
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| sandywalsh_ | ekarlso, that's the plan, but getting branches accepted has been quite slow | 00:15 |
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| sandywalsh_ | ekarlso, but yes, we're shooting for icehouse | 00:15 |
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| ekarlso | sandywalsh_: how do I run the stacktach workers ? | 00:36 |
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| balar | Is there an IP address manipulation module used by Openstack? python 3 has it in its core library, but I do not see one for python 2.7 | 00:42 |
| balar | I would like to compute netmask address given the netmask as an integer. | 00:42 |
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| russell_h | when using oslo.config, is there a pattern if I want to have some class register options when instantiated, but I might want to instantiate more than one of them? | 00:48 |
| dstanek | morganfainberg: just out of curiosity, is all of that global locking required? | 00:51 |
| Abhishek | balar: you can use netaddr, something like t = netaddr.IPAddress(1234567) and then t.__str__() | 00:51 |
| jamielennox | bknudson: do you think: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/59687/2/keystoneclient/v2_0/shell.py constitutes breaking compatability? or do we just not care in the shell? | 00:51 |
| morganfainberg | dstanek, i'm concerned about keystone running in multiple locations and/or under httpd | 00:51 |
| lifeless | morganfainberg: oh? | 00:52 |
| lifeless | morganfainberg: we were planning on that | 00:52 |
| morganfainberg | lifeless, yes with the new KVS store refactor | 00:52 |
| lifeless | morganfainberg: for TripleO (multiple locations) | 00:52 |
| lifeless | morganfainberg: is KVS a production backend? | 00:52 |
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| morganfainberg | lifeless, when i'm done with the refactor, it will be possible to use it as such | 00:53 |
| lifeless | morganfainberg: I thought it was in-memory only and really only test suitable | 00:53 |
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| morganfainberg | it's working towards being dogpile backed, so memcache, in-memory, redis, etc anything that you can represent in a Key-value-store format (get/set/deletE) will be possible | 00:53 |
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| lifeless | ok, interesting | 00:53 |
| lifeless | this is for tokens? | 00:54 |
| lifeless | or everything? | 00:54 |
| morganfainberg | lifeless, this is mostly to solve token backend issues and open the door for other things. i wouldn't use it as an identity backned outside of testing | 00:54 |
| morganfainberg | lifeless, but all testing will go through this new keyvaluestore since i want to remove the old one. | 00:54 |
| lifeless | morganfainberg: the keystone->backend links will be encrypted, right? | 00:54 |
| dstanek | morganfainberg: do the cache backends not deal with that? | 00:54 |
| morganfainberg | lifeless, that is optional, but supported | 00:55 |
| morganfainberg | lifeless, i plan on submitting this to oslo | 00:55 |
| dstanek | morganfainberg: for instance in memcache the last op will win - no need to lock for each key | 00:55 |
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| morganfainberg | lifeless, keystone -> backend encrypted (if the lib supports it) also supporitng the memcache_crypt stuff in auth_token middleware | 00:55 |
| morganfainberg | lifeless, base implementation review: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/59126/ | 00:56 |
| morganfainberg | dstanek, sure. like i said i can remove the set/delete locking | 00:56 |
| morganfainberg | dstanek, we still need to be able to lock in some cases, so the locking context manager can't be fully removed. | 00:57 |
| morganfainberg | dstanek, i erred on the side of caution, i'm happy to remove the lcoking on set/delete if that makes more sense. | 00:57 |
| morganfainberg | dstanek, s/locking/passive-lock-for-all-actions | 00:57 |
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| dstanek | morganfainberg: i don't know if you should or not - i was just curious for now | 00:58 |
| morganfainberg | dstanek, yeah thats where I am. I am looking for some input ;) | 00:58 |
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| lifeless | morganfainberg: wow, big patch? | 01:02 |
| morganfainberg | lifeless, there is a lot of functionality there. it's pretty much just the core implementation. and one minor change to an option in the config to meet my needs (and be more correct) | 01:03 |
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| morganfainberg | lifeless, and about as comprehensive testing as I could think of to start. | 01:03 |
| lifeless | morganfainberg: sure, just will be hard for whomever reviews it :) | 01:03 |
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| morganfainberg | lifeless, i know. unfortunately, it's hard to distill it down much. | 01:03 |
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| morganfainberg | lifeless, it's why this is stand-alone not making any changes to the core of keystone to use it | 01:04 |
| morganfainberg | lifeless, might be able to split the locking and memcache_crypt out, but that is likely only a couple hundred lines | 01:05 |
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| morganfainberg | lifeless, I try and keep my patchsets to ~400-600 lines at most. | 01:05 |
| ayoung | morganfainberg, yeo | 01:06 |
| ayoung | jamielennox, with you in a minute | 01:06 |
| jamielennox | ayoung: hmm? | 01:08 |
| dstanek | morganfainberg: i'll probably need to go over it again :-) lots to digest | 01:08 |
| ayoung | jamielennox, it is 20:00 localtime | 01:08 |
| jamielennox | i have a pep8 error where it (wrongly) complains about only importing modules not objects: http://logs.openstack.org/02/59602/3/check/gate-keystone-pep8/77e5686/console.html | 01:09 |
| jamielennox | is there a way i can tell it that i'm doing the right thing or do i have to resort to # noqa | 01:09 |
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| morganfainberg | ayoung, so.. https://github.com/openstack/keystone/blob/master/keystone/common/controller.py#L225 are we deleting tokens for the trustor? | 01:09 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, is that intended? | 01:09 |
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| ayoung | morganfainberg, I think so...I remember being convinced by someone that we needed to do that | 01:10 |
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| morganfainberg | ayoung, well if thats the case, way easier to fix things. just need to put the token in the right list and voila, it works | 01:11 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, no trust-specific-list required | 01:11 |
| ayoung | morganfainberg, yes, if I delete all tokens for a user, that includes all tokens where they are the trustor...hmmmbut why? | 01:11 |
| ekarlso | sandywalsh_: how can I get stacktach going with devstack ? | 01:11 |
| lifeless | jamielennox: how did you go with/scenarios? | 01:11 |
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| morganfainberg | ayoung, that is my question, it seems... odd to delete the tokens for trusts they are the trustor for | 01:11 |
| lifeless | jamielennox: you can whitelist imports in tox.ini | 01:11 |
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| ayoung | morganfainberg, assuming it is for the case where you are shutting down a users accounts, and you would want to remove all outstanding tokens that have access to their stuff | 01:12 |
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| ayoung | It makes sense if you sortof squint | 01:12 |
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| morganfainberg | ayoung, let me squint really hard here.... | 01:12 |
| jamielennox | lifeless: yep, they appear to be picking up and working fine, i think i could have found a better way to employ them that linking to fixtures with config options but it does work - thanks for that | 01:13 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, it means we have one less code-path ot maintain i guess. it feels like a round-about way of getting there though | 01:13 |
| jamielennox | lifeless: just means i can't run nosetests in that folder or it will fail on missing attributes | 01:13 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, whatever, it makes it easier to fix the issue in memcache token backend. i can just stuff the token in the right place | 01:14 |
| morganfainberg | easy fix.... 2 lines i think | 01:14 |
| ayoung | sounds good | 01:14 |
| morganfainberg | on-topic, since this relates to KVS. do you see a benefit to doing in-line locking on all sets/deletes in new-kvs? | 01:14 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, not the explicit locking, for example updating a user-token-list | 01:15 |
| nkinder | jamielennox: I updated the KDS api review. There are a few areas that seem unclear or wrong. | 01:15 |
| jamielennox | nkinder: ah hi, i looked for you earlier but disappeared | 01:15 |
| nkinder | jamielennox: yeah, was driving home from the office | 01:15 |
| morganfainberg | but i built in an implicit lock on each set, and each delete (delete = get, then delete to raise NotFound like current impl does) | 01:15 |
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| morganfainberg | and after talking to dstanek, i'm just not sure it makes sense to keep. | 01:16 |
| jamielennox | nkinder: so much of it i picked up from trying to understand simo's initial implementation so i wouldn't be surprised that some of the wording is wrong | 01:16 |
| ayoung | morganfainberg, probably. I assume the alternative is that we might have multiple greenthreads accessing the same page? | 01:16 |
| dstanek | morganfainberg: ah that's why there's a lock around the delete...for the NotFound | 01:16 |
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| ayoung | morganfainberg, just make sure the locking does not tie up the greenthreads. | 01:17 |
| jamielennox | nkinder: are those questions things you need me to answer or things that you want to fix up in the next version | 01:17 |
| nkinder | jamielennox: questions at this point | 01:18 |
| morganfainberg | dstanek, yes, but it's not _really_ needed. | 01:18 |
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| nkinder | jamielennox: the main thing that seems incorrect in the API is that we don't include the signing key in the encrypted bundle for the destination | 01:18 |
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| morganfainberg | ayoung, i think the memcache lock would tie up the thread actually =/ | 01:19 |
| dstanek | morganfainberg: does the set() lock replace the cas behavior? | 01:19 |
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| jamielennox | nkinder: so much of this i picked up as i went along. my understanding of ekey and skey isn't signing key and i'm not sure why it was ever described that way - ekey is the encrypted key and signature is the sig of the key to validate the decryption | 01:19 |
| morganfainberg | dstanek, no, the .get_lock(<key>) does | 01:19 |
| morganfainberg | dstanek, with kvs.get_lock(key): <do stuff> | 01:19 |
| ayoung | morganfainberg, maybe, but we want to make sure that reading, adding a value, and then writing are done atomically, at least until we get rid of the index pages . | 01:19 |
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| jamielennox | nkinder: ah, hang on, i think i'm mixing up areas | 01:20 |
| nkinder | jamielennox: well, there is "signature" too. | 01:20 |
| morganfainberg | the set lock just guarantees that once you start the operation, no other sets can change the value | 01:20 |
| nkinder | I'm talking about skey | 01:20 |
| morganfainberg | dstanek, ah, there we go. that was why... so in the case of needing get/dosomething/set the value can't change at any-point during the operation | 01:20 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, correct. | 01:20 |
| dstanek | morganfainberg: i'll have to look back, but i thought that as implemented the set would basically "queue" up and be executed in order | 01:20 |
| morganfainberg | dstanek, they would be, hrm | 01:21 |
| nkinder | jamielennox: "signature" is used to HMAC the response from KDS to the requestor | 01:21 |
| jamielennox | nkinder: yep | 01:21 |
| morganfainberg | dstanek, i'm feeling like i'm being crazy somewhere in here | 01:21 |
| jamielennox | nkinder: ok sorry - was thinking db and i'm looking at my impl and i think i say signature in a few places i mean skey | 01:21 |
| morganfainberg | dstanek, i think this can all be accomplished removing the implicit locking. | 01:22 |
| morganfainberg | dstanek, and only handle explicit lock scenarios | 01:22 |
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| morganfainberg | dstanek, and the delete scenario is ... limited race that doesn't have a huge impact. | 01:22 |
| jamielennox | nkinder: so ekey and skey are extract from the "base" key (not sure of a better term) which is random | 01:22 |
| nkinder | jamielennox: so skey is in the ticket (encrypted for the source). It's not encrypted in the payload for the destination though. | 01:23 |
| jamielennox | we take base key + "sender,destination,timestamp" to generate the ekey, skey | 01:23 |
| jamielennox | the idea was to be that by including only the base key in the destination the destination can recreate the ekey, skey for itself | 01:24 |
| ekarlso | sandywalsh_: I get a 500 when trying to browse my stacktach | 01:24 |
| jamielennox | which has the side effect of validating that the same sender,destination,timestamp are sent to the destination | 01:24 |
| jamielennox | so we don't transmit ekey, skey to the destination - just the information it needs to derive it for itself | 01:25 |
| ekarlso | sandywalsh_: http://pastebin.com/xPCcKGaK | 01:25 |
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| nkinder | jamielennox: ok, so explain what "base key" is | 01:25 |
| nkinder | jamielennox: is it something that we expect the destination to know? | 01:26 |
| jamielennox | so we're establishing "session" keys here a skey, ekey that can be used only between the two endpoints | 01:26 |
| jamielennox | the base key is essentially the seed | 01:26 |
| morganfainberg | dstanek, i'll pull out the implcit locking in the next review... it doesn't seem needed. | 01:26 |
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| morganfainberg | s/review/changeset | 01:27 |
| jamielennox | i've been calling it base key because in the impl we generate a new key for it | 01:27 |
| nkinder | jamielennox: is that the long term key from one of the services, or something else? | 01:27 |
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| jamielennox | nkinder: no, it's new and random | 01:27 |
| jamielennox | but if you know the base key/seed you can predictably generate the ekey/skey | 01:28 |
| nkinder | jamielennox: generated by KDS? | 01:28 |
| jamielennox | yes | 01:28 |
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| nkinder | jamielennox: so how does the destination service get knowledge of it? | 01:28 |
| jamielennox | data['esek']['key'] | 01:29 |
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| jamielennox | so when the destination receives a message it will take generate the two keys from esek['key'] + "source,destination,timestamp" in the same way the KDS did to generate the keys originally | 01:30 |
| nkinder | jamielennox: ah, esek contains the base key, not ekey. | 01:31 |
| jamielennox | so if you mess with the source, destination or timestamp the key will be invalid | 01:31 |
| jamielennox | nkinder: right | 01:31 |
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| nkinder | jamielennox: ok, so "key" in esek is the seed, and the destination needs to derive the other keys. | 01:32 |
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| nkinder | jamielennox: all of the stuff the source and destination are responsible for is missing from the API doc | 01:32 |
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| jamielennox | yes, i mentioned seed earlier but it's specified as key all over the place | 01:32 |
| nkinder | jamielennox: I'm filling that stuff in | 01:32 |
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| nkinder | jamielennox: A user of the API will need to know that they need to derive the keys, and they need to know how to do it. | 01:33 |
| jamielennox | nkinder: so i tried not to re-write it too much from simo's original - i think i probably just should have | 01:33 |
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| nkinder | jamielennox: so it's up to the source to send it's identity to the destination as well (in the exact form needed to perform the derive) | 01:34 |
| jamielennox | nkinder: yes, and i still need to talk to simo a little to figure out what he expected to happen there | 01:34 |
| nkinder | jamielennox: KDS doesn't really define how that is done, but it needs to be handled for the derive to work. | 01:34 |
| jamielennox | in my impl everything has a keyname:generation format and i'm not sure how that works with the messaging side of things yet | 01:35 |
| nkinder | jamielennox: the destination also needs to be supplied (at least in the group message case), as it's a group name. | 01:35 |
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| jamielennox | it should probably be supplied regardless | 01:36 |
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| jamielennox | s particularly with groups you change keys frequently so you end up with name:generation format | 01:37 |
| nkinder | jamielennox: I'm wondering it source/destination needs to be in the KDS encrypted payload for the destination | 01:38 |
| jamielennox | i added the same thing with hosts, it made the impl simpler and i can see people purposefully updating host keys | 01:38 |
| nkinder | s/it/if/ | 01:38 |
| jamielennox | nkinder: the point was to be that if it was outside then you could use that as an integrity check | 01:39 |
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| jamielennox | so source and destination (i think) are part of the message that you will be sending | 01:39 |
| jamielennox | timestamp is inside the esek | 01:39 |
| nkinder | jamielennox: yeah, it will just need to be supplied in the message somehow. | 01:39 |
| jamielennox | nkinder: but what i haven't figured out yet is the key generations | 01:40 |
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| jamielennox | so we get a key name back like scheduler:5 | 01:40 |
| nkinder | jamielennox: That was my next question :) | 01:40 |
| bknudson | jamielennox: that looks like it's breaking backwards compatibility | 01:40 |
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| bknudson | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/59687/2/keystoneclient/v2_0/shell.py | 01:40 |
| jamielennox | bknudson: i would have thought so but dolphm has a +1 on it | 01:41 |
| nkinder | jamielennox: That's supposed to generate a long term key for a service, right? | 01:41 |
| jamielennox | bknudson: just thought i'd check | 01:41 |
| jamielennox | nkinder: which bit? | 01:42 |
| bknudson | a change like that will at least need a bug and docimpact, etc. | 01:42 |
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| nkinder | jamielennox: the "Set Key" request | 01:43 |
| jamielennox | nkinder: so simo had some stuff done in the oslo messaging space (before it was a seperate library) but i don't know messaging more that a glance | 01:43 |
| jamielennox | set_key is a long term key yes | 01:43 |
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| nkinder | jamielennox: ok, but the client is responsible for generation of a key? | 01:44 |
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| jamielennox | i've mentally been splitting it into host keys and group keys | 01:45 |
| jamielennox | clients generate a host key | 01:45 |
| jamielennox | group keys must be fetched by group members | 01:45 |
| nkinder | jamielennox: The fact that we say "the default is a 128 bit random key" implies that KDS will generate a key if one is not supplied. | 01:45 |
| nkinder | jamielennox: yeah, I'm referring to host keys only right now | 01:45 |
| jamielennox | nkinder: in a number of my earlier reviews i mentioned that some of that stuff was implementation specific and got overruled | 01:45 |
| nkinder | jamielennox: the host generating the key and sending it to KDS makes sense (both sides know the key). | 01:46 |
| nkinder | jamielennox: if KDS can generate a random key, the host needs some way of fetching it. | 01:46 |
| jamielennox | nkinder: there is one there about nonce being a 64bit integer - this is python, the size and style of an accepted nonce is impl specific | 01:46 |
| jamielennox | nkinder: we don't support fetching a host key - i can't see a good reason for that - if you've lost it generate a new one | 01:47 |
| nkinder | jamielennox: the API doc implies that generation can be done by KDS, but I can reword it so it's more clear. | 01:47 |
| nkinder | jamielennox: I agree that just having the host generate it seems best. | 01:47 |
| jamielennox | nkinder: though this is part of the reason i put generations onto host keys so that it can distinguish between old and current keys | 01:47 |
| nkinder | jamielennox: so generations is just an integer that is incremented each time a new key is stored? | 01:48 |
| nkinder | ..for that host | 01:48 |
| balar | Hi Abishek, thanks for getting back, but it looks like netaddr is a python 3 module. | 01:48 |
| jamielennox | nkinder: yes - the concept came from group keys where a group key is only valid for about 15minutes so you need to know which key a client is addressing with a message | 01:49 |
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| balar | Sorry, looks like netaddr works with python 2.4 or above. | 01:49 |
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| jamielennox | nkinder: simo had decided that it a host key change was infrequent enough that you didn't need to store generations, but it would make things easier to my mind to keep the two concepts as similar as possible | 01:50 |
| nkinder | jamielennox: ok, I'll add a description of it to the doc. | 01:50 |
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| jamielennox | nkinder: so looking at the top of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/37913/11/openstack/common/rpc/common.py it would appear it is expected that the metadata will simply be converted back to json and put into the message | 01:54 |
| jamielennox | nkinder: i'm not sure where esek was supposed to fit into that but that's pretty simple | 01:55 |
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| nkinder | jamielennox: I think that's good enough for me to finish my pass at it. | 01:57 |
| nkinder | jamielennox: the biggest unknown is how the source/dest should be transmitted, but I suppose we should just call that out. | 01:57 |
| jamielennox | nkinder: great, thanks for doing this - it's been on my list for ages but honestly it was writing it that made me properly understand it rather than the identity-api or wiki page so i just haven't got back there | 01:58 |
| jamielennox | so that link i put in a few lines ago is to the messaging code | 01:58 |
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| jamielennox | there is a new entry there for a signature and it has a metadata section | 01:59 |
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| jamielennox | we would just need to have the source and dest in there seperately i think | 01:59 |
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| jamielennox | what's missing from there though is the actual esek ticket, but i guess we could just put that in the message metadata | 02:01 |
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| dstanek | bknudson: "NameError: name '_' is not defined" strikes again! | 02:02 |
| dstanek | bknudson: testtools.run doesn't like the magic | 02:02 |
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| dstanek | bknudson: running "python -m testtools.run discover keystone/tests -p '*test_versions*'" will fail | 02:04 |
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| stevemar | ayoung: thanks for the latest patch of mapping rules | 02:54 |
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| ayoung | stevemar, see where I am going with it? | 03:14 |
| stevemar | ayoung, aye, you wanted the sets in there | 03:14 |
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| stevemar | so an idp can use multiple mappings? | 03:14 |
| ayoung | stevemar, they were in the origianal plan from CHadwick and company | 03:14 |
| ayoung | I think so | 03:15 |
| ayoung | I suspect that there are going to be reusable pieces in there. | 03:15 |
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| stevemar | but what if there are conflicting rules? | 03:15 |
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| stevemar | ayoung ^ | 03:16 |
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| ayoung | stevemar, then the IdP is going to be broken. THat is going to happen from time to time anyway | 03:16 |
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| ayoung | We can specify order of evaluation | 03:17 |
| ayoung | something like "stop at first match" | 03:17 |
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| ayoung | and then the rule sets become ordered sets | 03:17 |
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| stevemar | ayoung: specify that at the set level i guess? | 03:18 |
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| ayoung | stevemar, if I am wrong and crazy here, let me know...I am just trying to understand what this is supposed to look like | 03:19 |
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| stevemar | ayoung: i hear ya, i think it makes sense, i'm interested to see what marekd and dolphm say (and the kent folks) | 03:20 |
| ayoung | stevemar, was your thought that a single mapping would contain all of the rules for a single IdP? | 03:20 |
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| ayoung | store and change atomically? | 03:21 |
| stevemar | ayoung: yeah, i figured one mapping would suffice per idp | 03:21 |
| stevemar | but, this way is more flexible | 03:21 |
| ayoung | stevemar, that might be sufficient. I can be talked out of what I wrote. | 03:21 |
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| ayoung | Lets sleep on it....I might be going too far | 03:22 |
| stevemar | i understand what you're getting at, and tbh i'm not sure of the right answer, yeah - good call :) | 03:22 |
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| ayoung | There is something very right about "I have the rules all written and bug free, let me upload them all together" | 03:23 |
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| ayoung | But then there is the "let me tweak them to get them right" | 03:23 |
| stevemar | and the re-usable factor of it | 03:23 |
| ayoung | the question is whether there really is any call for sharing, or for tweaking on the server in place | 03:23 |
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| stevemar | say idp 1 and 2 both want assertion rules A, B and C, but 1 wants D and 2 wants E | 03:24 |
| stevemar | ayoung, i could see universities doing something like that (if my example is right) | 03:24 |
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| ayoung | stevemar, yeah...but does it really make sense. There is no real cost in duplicating the same rule in multiple mappings. I think I am going to reverse myself on the sets thing...but tomorrow, not today | 03:26 |
| stevemar | hehe | 03:26 |
| stevemar | ayoung: think it over, let others weigh in | 03:26 |
| ayoung | stevemar, right now I am trying to build Qt3 app on Fedora 19...in order to play an EWI. I should be in bed right now | 03:27 |
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| stevemar | ayoung - EWI (n.) - An acronym for Atomic Wind Instrument ? | 03:28 |
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| ayoung | Atomic? Not the way I play | 03:29 |
| stevemar | but something music related? | 03:29 |
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| stevemar | at least it's not something work related ;) | 03:31 |
| ayoung | Not work. It is an Electronic Wind Instrument, and I got it working on my Wife's windows machine, now to get something for Linux | 03:32 |
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| ayoung | stevemar, good thing I know Linux. | 03:47 |
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| marun | ? | 04:05 |
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| clarkb | tox -epy27 testname | 05:16 |
| clarkb | it is testr now iirc | 05:16 |
| SpamapS | it is, but that does not run any tests | 05:16 |
| SpamapS | n/m | 05:16 |
| SpamapS | wrong test name | 05:16 |
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| rgerganov | I am using devstack and I want to clean my database | 08:49 |
| rgerganov | I tried clean.sh but it also remove packages from the system | 08:50 |
| rgerganov | how can I clean the DB without uninstalling anything? | 08:50 |
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| devvesa | regerganov: never tried before... but according to what i see in the code, if you delete de database and execute 'source lib/database' it might work | 09:12 |
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| rgerganov | devvesa, thanks, I guess I need to get better understanding of what these script do | 09:18 |
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| devvesa | rgerganov: sure, and take into account that maybe the unstack script it also clean more stuff like network namespaces or rabbit queues... i dunno | 09:27 |
| devvesa | rgerganov: and next ./stack execution can give you problems because of that | 09:27 |
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| k4n0 | hey, anyone know whats wrong jenkins? python gates failing | 09:31 |
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| ttx | jd__: ping | 09:32 |
| jd__ | ttx: pong | 09:32 |
| ttx | jd__: should I defer the last bp/bugs and cut the branch for i1 ? | 09:33 |
| ttx | or you could use a couple more hours there ? | 09:33 |
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| jd__ | ttx: I'd take a couple of hours to be able to see what's remaining | 09:34 |
| jd__ | I didn't yet this morning | 09:34 |
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| ttx | ok, will ping you back when I arrive near Paris | 09:34 |
| jd__ | ack, have a nice trip | 09:34 |
| toabctl | how can I run the tests for keystone locally? I tried "tox -epep8" and got no pep8 error but on jenkins, there's a pep8 error | 09:35 |
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| k4n0 | toabctl: tried "run_tests.sh -p "? | 09:40 |
| k4n0 | toabctl: actually this "run_tests.sh -V -u -p" | 09:41 |
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| k4n0 | uses venv, updates venv | 09:41 |
| toabctl | k4n0: the script tells me that it's deprecated and I should use tox... | 09:41 |
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| k4n0 | toabctl: what version of tox are you using? | 09:44 |
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| toabctl | k4n0: tox-1.6.0 | 09:57 |
| k4n0 | keystone pep8 gate uses tox 1.6.1 | 09:58 |
| k4n0 | toabctl: try tox 1.6.1 , also see if this helps http://logs.openstack.org/26/59826/1/check/gate-keystone-pep8/85e6776/console.html , logs for latest review that passed keystone pep8 gate | 09:59 |
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| toabctl | shardy: about your comment in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/59786/ : I talked yesterday to dolphm and said that a change like this is acceptable. | 10:17 |
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| shardy | toabctl: Ok, no worries, I'm just interested in what the justification actually is, considering the same thing can be achieved with one line in a cron job | 10:19 |
| shardy | toabctl: As I mentioned, we face the same requirement in Heat, so I'm keen to discuss what solution makes sense for all of openstack | 10:20 |
| toabctl | shardy: sure. but if it's included in keystone, you don't have to think about a cronjob. it should just work | 10:20 |
| shardy | toabctl: IMO it doesn't really make sense for every project to do this differently, with their own implementation | 10:20 |
| shardy | toabctl: Ok, fair enough - how does this work if you're running a scaled-out keystone with multiple processes? | 10:21 |
| toabctl | shardy: I'm new to openstack so I don't have an overview about this. I just recognized that there is this common threadgroup class which is used by different projects. | 10:21 |
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| shardy | toabctl: That is the pain point we've experienced in Heat with periodic tasks, where you have to effectively shard responsibility for data over multiple processes running periodic tasks asynchronously | 10:22 |
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| toabctl | shardy: for the sql backend it shouldn't be a problem if multiple processes flush the expired tokens. but I have no idea about the other backends. | 10:27 |
| shardy | toabctl: Well those are the sort of issues which, IMHO, need to be discussed, considered and tested | 10:28 |
| shardy | "shouldn't be a problem" != tested | 10:29 |
| toabctl | shardy: but I guess a central service responsible for periodic tasks from different services is a better solution | 10:29 |
| toabctl | shardy: sure | 10:29 |
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| shardy | toabctl: AIUI that is one of the use cases the Mistral project aims to solve | 10:31 |
| shardy | toabctl: So you could have a service register periodic tasks on startup with Mistral, rather than managing them internally | 10:32 |
| shardy | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Mistral | 10:32 |
| ttx | markmcclain: cutting Mp for neutron now | 10:32 |
| markmcclain | ttx: ack | 10:32 |
| k4n0 | Can someone suggest a way to go about this, I have a change in nova which is causing tempest gate to fail, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/59860/, the nova change will stop showing deleted flavors, and the tempest test that is failing is specifically trying to get deleted flavors | 10:33 |
| k4n0 | Ideally i should be fixing/skipping the tempest tests first right? | 10:33 |
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| k4n0 | And then get the nova change reviewed? | 10:34 |
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| toabctl | shardy: thanks for the mistral link. that's interessting! | 10:37 |
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| shardy | toabctl: np, hopefully you can see now why I'm arguing some discussion is warranted :) | 10:45 |
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| toabctl | shardy: yes. I fully agree with your arguments | 10:45 |
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| ttx | jd__: around? | 11:14 |
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| ttx | jd__: shall I just defer the last 3 things in https://launchpad.net/ceilometer/+milestone/icehouse-1 and cut ? | 11:15 |
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| jd__ | ttx: yep | 11:16 |
| ttx | ok will do as soon as damn data is reliable | 11:17 |
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| aa_ | Hello | 11:44 |
| aa_ | i have an issue regarding the keystone cli, and the rest api | 11:45 |
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| aa_ | when a user that has an admin role in a tenant | 11:45 |
| aa_ | types: keystone user-list, all users are displayed | 11:46 |
| aa_ | instead when I make a curl request to /users | 11:46 |
| aa_ | none are displayed | 11:47 |
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| aa_ | the only thing i need to add is when a make a request to 5000, none are displayed, when I make a request to 35357 all of them are displayed | 11:50 |
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| aa_ | how can i make a user that has an admin role on a tenant to not show all users | 11:51 |
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| aa_ | when i query keystone user-list | 11:51 |
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| tellesnobrega | hi, anyone here can help me with ldap? | 12:04 |
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| krypto | hi does openstack ovs filtering use this script https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/plugins/xenserver/networking/etc/xensource/scripts/ovs_configure_vif_flows.py | 12:44 |
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| BobBall | only if you're using Xen and have it configured to use that in dom0 | 12:51 |
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| krypto | BobBall: any idea why we need this rule ovs.add("priority=4,arp,in_port=%(OF_PORT)s,dl_src=%(MAC)s," | 12:59 |
| krypto | "nw_src=0.0.0.0,arp_sha=%(MAC)s,actions=resubmit:9999") | 12:59 |
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| krypto | nw_src 0.0.0.0 and nw_src=instance ip | 12:59 |
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| BobBall | that's allowing incoming ARP responses | 13:03 |
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| BobBall | Is there a problem with the rule? | 13:05 |
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| BobBall | If you don't have ARP you can't talk to anything because you can't get the hardware address from the IP address. | 13:05 |
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| BobBall | I guess without that rule two VMs in the same network and on the same host wouldn't be able to find each other | 13:06 |
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| krypto | there is a rule above that "priority=4,arp,in_port=%(OF_PORT)s,dl_src=%(MAC)s," | 13:07 |
| krypto | "nw_src=%(IPV4_ADDR)s,arp_sha=%(MAC)s,actions=resubmit:9999")" | 13:07 |
| BobBall | That's outbound rather than inbound | 13:07 |
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| BobBall | it's arp request and responses | 13:07 |
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| BobBall | I'm not an arp expert though | 13:09 |
| krypto | me neither but trying to understand that, BobBall : i still understand nw_src= 0.0.0.0 as below rule validates arp from that mac and ip | 13:11 |
| krypto | using arp_sha=mac-of-instance | 13:12 |
| krypto | isnt this for outgoing? | 13:12 |
| krypto | i still dont* | 13:12 |
| BobBall | Ah - yes - it's all outgoing. I guess different ARP implementations use nw_src=<my_IP> vs nw_src=0.0.0.0 | 13:13 |
| BobBall | that makes sense | 13:13 |
| BobBall | because the arp respose doesn't care about the src IP | 13:13 |
| BobBall | just that the IP and mac match in the payload | 13:14 |
| BobBall | (I mean to prevent spoofing) | 13:14 |
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| krypto | so my doubt is if we had only this nw_src= 0.0.0.0 ,then can't i still spoof ip with same mac? | 13:15 |
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| BobBall | I'm not sure where the payload is verified - but I thought it was somewhere | 13:16 |
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| tellesnobrega | ayoung: ping | 13:29 |
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| krypto | thanks BobBall | 13:38 |
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| ayoung | tellesnobrega, I don't ping. I'm not a plebe any more. I bebop! | 13:40 |
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| Alexei_9871 | jd__ ping | 13:59 |
| jd__ | Alexei_9871: pong | 14:00 |
| Alexei_9871 | jd__: wanted to ask about this review: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/59489/ | 14:00 |
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| Alexei_9871 | jd__: why don't you use separate db for each test? | 14:00 |
| jd__ | Alexei_9871: because there's only one DB available :( | 14:00 |
| Alexei_9871 | jd__: can't we get a right to create temp db? | 14:01 |
| Alexei_9871 | cause db locks will cause us a lot of troubles | 14:01 |
| jd__ | Alexei_9871: maybe, we need to discuss with infra | 14:01 |
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| jd__ | I make things work first, then I'll see how to make it faster if it's needed :) | 14:02 |
| Alexei_9871 | jd__: ok :) | 14:02 |
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| jd__ | though for now this patch works locally and not on infra, for a reason I ignore | 14:03 |
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| jd__ | looks like the locking doesn't work or something | 14:04 |
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| jd__ | ah right, that's it, now I remember I just read the thread on -dev about that, damn | 14:06 |
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| tellesnobrega | ayoung: kkk, can i ask you some questions about domain specific ldap? | 14:23 |
| ayoung | sure | 14:23 |
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| tellesnobrega | ayoung: im doing some studying about how i can manage domains using ldap | 14:24 |
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| tellesnobrega | ayoung: im a little lost how does it work, i started a devstack with ldap, but i think that it only works for the default domain, do you have some guide on how to configure domain specific ldap: | 14:25 |
| tellesnobrega | ? | 14:25 |
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| ayoung | tellesnobrega, well, there is good news and bad news | 14:26 |
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| ayoung | the bad news is that it is not 100% working yet | 14:27 |
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| ayoung | the good news is that we are working on it | 14:27 |
| ayoung | Henrynash (who is not here right now) got the ball rolling. | 14:27 |
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| ayoung | So you can set up a domain specific ldap config in a subdir under /etc/keystone. There are instructions how to do it in the configuration.rst file | 14:27 |
| ayoung | tellesnobrega, there are some issues that are still to be resolved, such as.... | 14:28 |
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| ayoung | tellesnobrega, it might be working now. We did one of the important things, which was to remove the calls from assignment into identity...but I think the patch for that has not yet merged | 14:30 |
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| tellesnobrega | ayoung: i see, i got an email that this bug is fix-released | 14:31 |
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| ayoung | tellesnobrega, yeah, looking for the commit, though | 14:32 |
| tellesnobrega | ayoung: the part that i did was merged a while back | 14:32 |
| ayoung | tellesnobrega, is that removing the call from assignments to identity ? | 14:33 |
| tellesnobrega | ayoung: removing calls from identity to assignment | 14:33 |
| ayoung | tellesnobrega, OK, to set up domain specific LDAP, leave the SQL driver as the main identity and assignments driver. Make sure that works | 14:34 |
| ayoung | tellesnobrega, then read this https://github.com/openstack/keystone/blob/master/doc/source/configuration.rst#domain-specific-drivers | 14:35 |
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| ayoung | tellesnobrega, you should be able to copy the LDAP config out of the keystone.conf file into the domain conf file | 14:35 |
| ayoung | tellesnobrega, is that enough for you to move on? | 14:36 |
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| tellesnobrega | ayoung: ok, just to make sure i understood right, i should use SQL as identity driver? and config ldap following this tutorial? | 14:36 |
| ayoung | tellesnobrega, correct | 14:36 |
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| ayoung | and SQL as the assignments driver. It is the default, but make it explicit just to be sure. THen, only Identity will come out of LDAP | 14:37 |
| tellesnobrega | ayoung: ok, i will start on it. when i need more help i will be back | 14:37 |
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| ekarlso | sandywalsh_: ? | 14:43 |
| bogdando | hello. I have a question regarding log_config deprecation since https://github.com/openstack/cinder/commit/1b3e4358715bad3c2309ac40785bd7c3b371284f | 14:44 |
| bogdando | what loggers *might* and what *should not* be configured in log configs now? what is bug or blueprint or docs related? | 14:44 |
| bogdando | should I use deprecated log_config in case I want override ALL loggers? | 14:44 |
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| sandywalsh_ | ekarlso, hey! which repo did you pull from? | 14:45 |
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| Alexei_9871 | jd__: We start our own mongo process for tests. Why can't we start mysql process with --data-dir in /tmp ? we could start it without privileges and create any database we want | 14:47 |
| jd__ | Alexei_9871: if we can do that it'd be great I think | 14:47 |
| jd__ | Alexei_9871: I'm happy to receive help on this patch (hint hint) | 14:47 |
| Alexei_9871 | jd__: Ok I'll look on it tomorrow morning since I have other stuff to finish today | 14:48 |
| jd__ | Alexei_9871: \o/ | 14:48 |
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| ekarlso | sandywalsh_: rackerlabs | 15:06 |
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| sandywalsh_ | ekarlso, so, you're getting events in the database? That is, the worker seems happy? | 15:08 |
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| apmelton1 | ekarlso: what commit of stacktach are you running? | 15:10 |
| ekarlso | apmelton1: trunk | 15:10 |
| ekarlso | trying to use it with devstack ^ | 15:10 |
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| apmelton1 | ekarlso: do you have a full stacktrace? | 15:14 |
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| ekarlso | apmelton1: to secs | 15:19 |
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| dstanek | bknudson: you around? | 15:21 |
| bknudson | dstanek: yes | 15:22 |
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| dstanek | bknudson: i'm lookin at your review for adding debug into tox again - i have an alternate impl that i'd like you to take a look at | 15:23 |
| bknudson | dstanek: I'm happy with whatever works. | 15:23 |
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| apmelton1 | actually akarlso, I see you're using Django 1.6, stacktach doesn't work with 1.6 currently | 15:24 |
| apmelton1 | could you use 1.5.5? | 15:24 |
| dstanek | bknudson: i've put it in a paste for now, but i can amend your patch if you like the approach http://paste.openstack.org/show/54425/ | 15:24 |
| ekarlso | sandywalsh_: / apmelton1 http://pastebin.com/aqUerA2k < does that worker config seem ok + | 15:25 |
| ekarlso | I don't get the whole config :/ | 15:25 |
| dstanek | bknudson: i actually took the command out of my patch to run_tests.sh instead of using raw bash commands in the tox.ini | 15:25 |
| bknudson | dstanek: as long as it works to use set_trace, I'm fine with it, so just pt it on mine and I'll try it out. | 15:25 |
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| dstanek | bknudson: will do, thanks | 15:26 |
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| apmelton1 | ekarlso: which services are you trying to get notifications for? | 15:27 |
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| ekarlso | apmelton1: nova / neutron | 15:28 |
| ekarlso | and designate | 15:28 |
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| apmelton1 | ekarlso: what do you have set for notification_topics in each of the service's configs? | 15:29 |
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| ekarlso | notifications | 15:31 |
| ekarlso | it's configured by devstack | 15:31 |
| ekarlso | : P | 15:31 |
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| apmelton1 | so, for stacktach, we're going to need each services notifications to go to different topics | 15:32 |
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| apmelton1 | could you set them to notifications_nova, notifications_neutron and notifications_designate? | 15:33 |
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| apmelton1 | ekarlso: ^^ once you've got that set up this worker config should work for you: https://gist.github.com/ramielrowe/dc527d68fa1a320121d7 | 15:34 |
| ekarlso | how the crap do you do that in devstack ? | 15:34 |
| marekd | stevemar: ping. | 15:35 |
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| apmelton1 | ekarlso: you'll need to set notifications_topics=notifications_nova in /etc/nova/nova.conf, like-wise for the other services | 15:35 |
| apmelton1 | notification_topics=notifications_nova | 15:36 |
| marekd | stevemar: Two things: I no longer see domain_id when you list IdPs - is it on purpose? I think there was no clear conclusin about having it (or not) in the request. | 15:37 |
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| marekd | stevemar: 2) When I add new protocol tied to the IdP there is no PATCH method (I might want to change mapping i will be using). Should we separate PUT and PATCH or assume than I will just use PUT with new values and it will effecitively be stored in the database, erasing old values? | 15:39 |
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| stevemar | marekd: 1) was not concluded | 15:40 |
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| marekd | stevemar: 1) so i will leave domain_id for now because i already keep some trash values there. | 15:41 |
| stevemar | marekd: that's fine with me | 15:41 |
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| ekarlso | apmelton1: how do you set that in local.conf in desvstack ? | 15:42 |
| ekarlso | or sandywalsh_ | 15:42 |
| apmelton1 | ekarlso: taking a look at the docs, never used local.conf | 15:43 |
| marekd | stevemar: ok, and no.2? I thnink so far we have only one param we may want to update, namely mapping_id. I would go into PATCH -> it's easier to implement :-) + user will not by mistake remove his config, but PUTting twice. | 15:43 |
| sandywalsh_ | ekarlso, apmelton1 hmm, not sure if you can set it on a per-service basis in devstack. | 15:44 |
| marekd | stevemar: he wants to update a value -> he must explicitely use PATCH. | 15:44 |
| sandywalsh_ | <checking> | 15:44 |
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| krypto | hi any idea why two rules are used instead of using single rule line number 137,147 https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/plugins/xenserver/networking/etc/xensource/scripts/ovs_configure_vif_flows.py | 15:44 |
| ekarlso | sandywalsh_: you can with local.conf | 15:44 |
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| stevemar | marekd: i think it'll be worth having full CRUD then? | 15:46 |
| marekd | stevemar: cool. | 15:46 |
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| marekd | stevemar: so i am adding this U operation. Thanks! | 15:47 |
| apmelton1 | ekarlso: I believe this is what you'd want: https://gist.github.com/ramielrowe/7789820 | 15:47 |
| apmelton1 | i'm not 100% certain about the neutron and designate parts, but that's basically the config I'd use for nova | 15:47 |
| apmelton1 | ekarlso: slight correct, please refresh that gist | 15:48 |
| apmelton1 | correction* | 15:48 |
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| BobBall | krypto: I may have an answer now - someone suggested there was a bug in the OVS where it wasn't properly replicating the ARPs between VMs on the same host and was stripping the nw_src | 15:55 |
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| Alexei_9871 | jd__ ping | 16:11 |
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| jd__ | Alexei_9871: pong | 16:13 |
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| Alexei_9871 | jd__: I've found time to work on your patch | 16:14 |
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| Alexei_9871 | jd__: now it seems to work | 16:14 |
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| jd__ | Alexei_9871: awesome | 16:14 |
| Alexei_9871 | jd__: but I get multiple errors DBError: (IntegrityError) (1452, 'Cannot add or update a child row: a foreign key constraint fails | 16:14 |
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| jd__ | Alexei_9871: that's actually a good sign | 16:14 |
| jd__ | we know we have this bug in real life | 16:14 |
| jd__ | my plan was to try to trigger it in the unit tests | 16:14 |
| Alexei_9871 | jd__: cool | 16:15 |
| Alexei_9871 | jd__: so what should I do with it? | 16:15 |
| jd__ | Alexei_9871: can you push it to replace my review? | 16:15 |
| Alexei_9871 | jd__: yes 5 mins | 16:15 |
| jd__ | or send me the diff, as you prefer | 16:15 |
| Alexei_9871 | jd__: and I also think that we should only this tests on gate | 16:15 |
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| Alexei_9871 | jd__: cause it makes tests a lot slower | 16:15 |
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| SpamapS | why exactly do keystone's unit tests create an on-disk sqlite? | 16:16 |
| jd__ | Alexei_9871: that won't be enough | 16:16 |
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| Alexei_9871 | jd__: here you go :) | 16:17 |
| Alexei_9871 | I've got 73 test failures | 16:18 |
| Alexei_9871 | cause of FK errors | 16:18 |
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| ekarlso | apmelton1: that produces http://paste.ubuntu.com/6520510/ | 16:21 |
| ekarlso | which is broken :/ | 16:21 |
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| apmelton1 | ekarlso: looks like it's the "=" right below [DEFAULT] | 16:23 |
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| sandywalsh_ | markmc, is oslo.messaging on gerrit or just github pull releases? | 16:26 |
| apmelton1 | ekarlso: I'm not sure how that equals is getting in there, all of the other values seem to have been inserted properly | 16:26 |
| markmc | sandywalsh_, https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/oslo.messaging,n,z | 16:28 |
| markmc | sandywalsh_, seeing a stale reference to github.com/markmc/oslo.messaging somewhere? | 16:28 |
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| jd__ | Alexei_9871: that looks awesome, thanks! | 16:28 |
| sandywalsh_ | markmc, no, but gerrit is giving me grief trying to issue a review. | 16:29 |
| markmc | sandywalsh_, pastebin ? | 16:29 |
| sandywalsh_ | markmc, just an ssh problem. Going to dig around a little. Works fine with the other repos, which is odd. | 16:30 |
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| markmc | sandywalsh_, ok | 16:31 |
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| sandywalsh_ | markmc, got it. thanks | 16:34 |
| markmc | sandywalsh_, np | 16:34 |
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| moory | hi - if I attach a patch to a security bug - how does the status get updated from 'In Progress'? | 16:45 |
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| russellb | moory: manually | 16:45 |
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| moory | russellb: so I change it ? only options I have are Fix Committed and Fix Released | 16:46 |
| russellb | moory: you may not have permissions ... you'll have to check with someone who has access to the bug | 16:48 |
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| moory | @russellb - okay I'll ask the guy who raised the bug to see if he can do anything with it to get the review porcess started | 16:49 |
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| moory | @russellb - Thank you | 16:49 |
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| ayoung | Someone is being far too literal.... WARNING keystone.common.wsgi [-] Authorization failed. Could not find token, $ADMIN_TOKEN. from 127.0.0.1 | 16:52 |
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| tellesnobrega | ayoung: i didnt understand what should be in the keystone.domain.conf | 17:25 |
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| dolphm | tellesnobrega: mutli-domain conf is broken | 17:26 |
| tellesnobrega | dolphm: its not possible to use it right now? | 17:26 |
| dolphm | tellesnobrega: not at all | 17:26 |
| dolphm | tellesnobrega: it's more so unfinished than broken, i suppose | 17:26 |
| dolphm | tellesnobrega: with federation on the horizon, i suspect we may rip what we have there back out | 17:27 |
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| tellesnobrega | dolphm: i was planning a study on how to use, configure, change configuration and figure out how ldap works with domains, but i think i will have to postpone this research | 17:28 |
| dolphm | tellesnobrega: ldap doesn't work with domains | 17:28 |
| dolphm | tellesnobrega: so, done! :) | 17:28 |
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| tellesnobrega | dolphm: thanks, you saved me a couple weeks of work. but with a very bad news i was following this https://github.com/openstack/keystone/blob/master/doc/source/configuration.rst#domain-specific-drivers to try it as ayoung suggested | 17:29 |
| dolphm | tellesnobrega: there's an open bug and an abandoned patch to finish things if you're interested -- poke at morganfainberg | 17:29 |
| dolphm | tellesnobrega: yes, and there's a big warning at the top of that section | 17:30 |
| tellesnobrega | dolphm: yes, i will take a look at the bug | 17:30 |
| tellesnobrega | dolphm: thanks | 17:30 |
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| dolphm | tellesnobrega: same docs are published here btw, and are a little bit easier to read http://docs.openstack.org/developer/keystone/configuration.html#domain-specific-drivers | 17:30 |
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| dolphm | tellesnobrega: at least the warning becomes a big red box! | 17:30 |
| tellesnobrega | dolphm: i saw the warning, but i thought it had some progress and it would be able to test using devstack, just to see it working. But i guess it wont do | 17:31 |
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| dolphm | tellesnobrega: it's had discussion and that proposed patch, but nothing has landed as it's not a priority relative to federation, which should solve the same problem in a more generic way | 17:39 |
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| tellesnobrega | dolphm: thanks, i will talk to morganfainberg and check that bug to see how the implementation is going, if its going at all | 17:42 |
| ayoung | dolphm, which is the abandonded patch? | 17:43 |
| dolphm | ayoung: i don't have a link, but i know it's one of morgan's... owner:m@metacloud.com status:abandoned | 17:44 |
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| ayoung | dolphm, argh gerrit naming of users if gaaarrhhh! | 17:45 |
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| ayoung | its not m@metacloud, its not morgainfainberg, and it won't tell me what it is | 17:45 |
| ayoung | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/45649/ | 17:46 |
| ayoung | tellesnobrega, ^^ | 17:46 |
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| tellesnobrega | ayoung: thanks | 17:49 |
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| ayoung | tellesnobrega, OK, let me look at that, and we can figure out a plan.. | 17:51 |
| ayoung | tellesnobrega, but my comment was "on the right track, no major issues" | 17:51 |
| ayoung | morganfainberg, please bring https://review.openstack.org/#/c/45649/ back from the dead | 17:51 |
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| ayoung | tellesnobrega, argh, the merge on that one is going to be non-trivial | 17:53 |
| tellesnobrega | ayoung: i see, my main objective was to figure out if this feature was working and if not, why not | 17:53 |
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| ayoung | tellesnobrega, this was the patch I was looking for before. | 17:54 |
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| ayoung | tellesnobrega, I think that many of those changes are now obsolete. We should not be doing stuff in assignments that talks to identity, but it means that things like "get_group_project_roles" has to be content with the data it has solely in the assignments backend | 17:56 |
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| tellesnobrega | ayoung: i didnt really understand. Fixing this patch, can we get domain-specific-ldap workging? | 18:02 |
| ayoung | tellesnobrega, I have no idea! | 18:02 |
| ayoung | tellesnobrega, heh, actually, I mean that this is necessary. | 18:02 |
| ayoung | Not sure if it is sufficient | 18:02 |
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| ayoung | we'll know once we get it done | 18:03 |
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| ayoung | tellesnobrega, morganfainberg is well underway on redoing the KVS and Memcached backends to use dogpile. With that, lots of the KVS impls will be able to be simplified, and many of the changes that are necessary in the above patch will be merged into a single change. We want this for icehouse, but I can't tell you when it will be working | 18:05 |
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| tellesnobrega | ayoung: i see, thanks. I would like to get working on this, it would bring me a good knowledge of the backend of openstack, but im not sure if i will be able to do it now and also if i have enough knowledge on openstack to do so | 18:08 |
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| ayoung | tellesnobrega, look through this review to start: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/59126/ | 18:09 |
| tellesnobrega | ayoung: i will | 18:10 |
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| openstackstatus | NOTICE: gate failures due to django incompatibility, pip bugs, and node performance problems | 18:34 |
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| sdague | bnemec: so... on the lockfile, what if we openned with 'a' instead of 'w', so we didn't truncate the file | 18:37 |
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| sdague | still requires write access, but doesn't damage the underlying file | 18:37 |
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| danpb | sdague lockfile for what ? | 18:38 |
| clarkb | is this for oslo db? | 18:38 |
| clarkb | because I really think we should just get rid of the lock file all together if so | 18:38 |
| sdague | danpb: this is the oslo lockutils follow up | 18:38 |
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| sdague | danpb: from the list | 18:38 |
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| bnemec | clarkb: I agree, but this is used other places too. | 18:38 |
| sdague | clarkb: yeh, lock utils is used all over the place | 18:39 |
| sdague | this is a more generic question | 18:39 |
| clarkb | I see | 18:39 |
| danpb | sdague hmm, so from your comment, is the file that is being locked used for storing data too ? | 18:40 |
| sdague | danpb: no | 18:40 |
| sdague | it's just used to get an fd to do fctnl lock on | 18:40 |
| clarkb | it doesn't write a pid to the file too? | 18:40 |
| sdague | no | 18:40 |
| bnemec | sdague: I would think that could work, but I don't know a lot about the low level locking behavior. | 18:40 |
| bnemec | I'll have to look at it some more. | 18:40 |
| danpb | sdague why would append vs truncate matter then when opening ? | 18:41 |
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| sdague | danpb: to eliminate the security attack of someone linking from "well known lock location" to another file on yuor computer they want to destroy | 18:41 |
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| danpb | sdague surely the right fix for that is to not use the lockfile in a path where anyone can access (ie don't ever use /tmp or /var/tmp) | 18:42 |
| sdague | danpb: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2013-December/021055.html full thread | 18:42 |
| sdague | danpb: so the problem is upgrade | 18:42 |
| sdague | I'm trying to figure out if we have a not dangerous, even if unwise way through this where we can have a default | 18:43 |
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| bnemec | sdague: "On at least some systems, LOCK_EX can only be used if the file descriptor refers to a file opened for writing." :-( | 18:46 |
| bnemec | From http://docs.python.org/2/library/fcntl.html#fcntl.lockf | 18:46 |
| sdague | bnemec: I wonder if they mean to the exclusion of append | 18:47 |
| danpb | bnemec: 'a' is a write mode | 18:47 |
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| danpb | stdio's 'a' mode maps to POSIX O_WRONLY while 'w' maps to O_WRONLY | O_TRUNC | 18:48 |
| bnemec | Okay, guess I was reading it too literally. :-) | 18:48 |
| danpb | opps, i mean 'a' maps to O_WRONLY | O_APPEND | 18:49 |
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| sdague | yeh, locally this works with append, I'm blocking on the second exclusive lock | 18:50 |
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| bnemec | sdague: Cool. I'm open to giving it a shot, and maybe logging a big warning that it isn't recommended to use the default. | 18:51 |
| sdague | yep, I put another response out there | 18:51 |
| sdague | let's see who else bites | 18:51 |
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| sdague | bobber? | 18:52 |
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| bnemec | <sdague> let's see who else bites | 18:53 |
| bnemec | We're fishing right? :-) | 18:53 |
| sdague | :) | 18:53 |
| sdague | nice | 18:53 |
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| skraynev | bnemec, sdague. As I understand you come to solution. And soon we will see desired patch , right? | 18:56 |
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| sdague | skraynev: well, I still want folks to vet the idea | 18:56 |
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| sdague | but yes, I'm proposing an oslo patch that would do what I'm proposing | 18:57 |
| sdague | working on creating one that is | 18:57 |
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| skraynev | great))) I will be wait this patch. | 18:58 |
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| bnemec | sdague: I guess the only other issue that leaves is the possibility of a DoS if someone locks a file on us and doesn't ever release it. | 19:01 |
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| bnemec | Which is much less serious than overwriting files. | 19:01 |
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| sdague | bnemec: sure | 19:02 |
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| sdague | right, this isn't what you'd actually want to run with | 19:02 |
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| sdague | but it would provide a bridge towards working | 19:02 |
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| bnemec | sdague: Yeah, I think I'm okay with that, especially as a bridge to deprecating the default for J. | 19:03 |
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| bnemec | Just trying to come up with possible objections. | 19:03 |
| sdague | yep | 19:03 |
| sdague | right, that's why I put it back on the list, as I want to see all the rocks about why this can't work | 19:03 |
| sdague | I think we sometimes get to cavalier with "upgrade is hard, let's do the easy thing instead" | 19:04 |
| crobertsrh | Anyone else have a problem with glance uploading images (latest devstack master)? I'm seeing...ProgrammingError: (ProgrammingError) (1146, "Table 'glance.images' doesn't exist") | 19:04 |
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| sdague | bnemec: good call on ccing the sec list | 19:09 |
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| bnemec | Yeah, I figured they should be involved in the discussion. | 19:11 |
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| bnemec | "Your message to Openstack-security awaits moderator approval" | 19:17 |
| bnemec | Apparently I should have actually joined the list first. :-) | 19:17 |
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| sdague | heh | 19:20 |
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| dsantos_ | hi I'm trying to run glance with ssl but I'm getting an error. I found this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-glanceclient/+bug/1160520 but it doesn't seems to be fixed. The error that I got is "not all arguments converted during string formatting". Does someone know how can I fix this? | 19:22 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1160520 in python-glanceclient "Miss leading error message when OS_CACERT is set incorrectly" [Undecided,In progress] | 19:22 |
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| copeland | Would it be at all possible to speak with someone to validate my keystone configuration? I'm encountering an apparent Keystone error when attempting to validate my Swift installation (running 'stat'), specifically: "Endpoint for object-store not found - have you specified a region?" Thanks! | 19:30 |
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| zaitcev | copeland: well, what does keystone endpoints-list say? | 19:44 |
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| zaitcev | | dd16f2d2d3b14838b8214504abfca26a | RegionOne | http://kvm-rei.zaitcev.lan:8080 | 19:46 |
| zaitcev | http://kvm-rei.zaitcev.lan:8080/v1.0/ | c863814814a24b60b72467fc089f8f0a | | 19:46 |
| zaitcev | hmm | 19:47 |
| zaitcev | | dd16f2d2d3b14838b8214504abfca26a | RegionOne | http://kvm-rei.zaitcev.lan:8080/v1/AUTH_$(tenant_id)s | http://kvm-rei.zaitcev.lan:8080/v1/AUTH_$(tenant_id)s | http://kvm-rei.zaitcev.lan:8080/v1.0/ | c863814814a24b60b72467fc089f8f0a | | 19:47 |
| zaitcev | copeland: there ya go | 19:47 |
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| copeland | zaitcev - Is that ran from your Keystone node? Also assuming you're using the FQDN instead of localhost? | 19:50 |
| zaitcev | Well, what good is localhost for someone who wants to talk to your Swift? | 19:51 |
| zaitcev | How small is your OpenStack? Just one node, and Glance together with Swift on the same VM? | 19:51 |
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| copeland | I was under the impression that 'endpoint' meant just that-- the endpoint, i.e. the Keystone server itself, specified with a port.. So far, the deployment is tiny. Two blade servers. Compute, Keystone, Glance, Horizon on one, and Swift on the other. | 19:54 |
| zaitcev | I thought an endpoint was where you find the service. | 19:55 |
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| copeland | your knowledge is clearly far superior to mine, judging by your tone, so please instruct me. | 19:55 |
| copeland | :) | 19:55 |
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| zaitcev | So, an app or middleware talks to Keystone server, asks "where do I find our Swift" and Keystone replies "publicURL is at https://rhev-a24c-01.lab.bos.redhat.com/v1", so the app goes there | 19:56 |
| ayoung | copeland, service is something like "keystone, switch, glance" and an endpoint is a specific instance of that service | 19:57 |
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| copeland | ah, gotcha. I was viewing 'endpoint' in a very different context.. I was under the impression that the endpoint specified was a point at which authentication takes place for each service. | 19:59 |
| copeland | not specifically where the service exists | 19:59 |
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| zaitcev | There was some kind of trick though... Uncommon in normal OpenStack installs, but occurs in Swift-only places: you must have Keystone endpoint (describing itself), or else swift won't authenticate. | 19:59 |
| ayoung | zaitcev, yesh, buyt his error said "Endpoint for object-store" which means the endpoint for swift in this case | 20:00 |
| zaitcev | oh, right | 20:00 |
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| copeland | ok, so that being said, this is completely and utterly wrong, and I should probably be embarassed to even be copying this, but for the sake of understanding: | 20:01 |
| copeland | | 8ed452d4997b4b00a77367fd15e45bfa | regionOne | http://localhost:8888/v1/AUTH_%(tenant_id)s | http://localhost:8888/v1/AUTH_%(tenant_id)s | http://localhost:8888/v1 | 7563877905e840e0aec39089aeb557df | | 20:01 |
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| copeland | is the result I get from running 'keystone endpoint-list' on the keystone server itself. | 20:01 |
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| ayoung | copeland, so one of those fields is the service id | 20:02 |
| ayoung | and do keystone service list to see those | 20:02 |
| zaitcev | The last one | 20:02 |
| ayoung | keystone service-list | 20:02 |
| copeland | yep, I see it | 20:02 |
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| copeland | right, and it does match the last field pasted above, as zaitcev pointed out | 20:03 |
| dperaza1 | any one else having issues with oslo jenkins on py26: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/48733/ | 20:03 |
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| zaitcev | mine is | c863814814a24b60b72467fc089f8f0a | swift | object-store | Swift Service | | 20:03 |
| zaitcev | with c863814814a24b60b72467fc089f8f0a being the ID | 20:03 |
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| zaitcev | BTW, my RegionOne differs from your regionOne and I cannot remember if it matters | 20:04 |
| dperaza1 | looks like a dependency issue: http://logs.openstack.org/33/48733/15/check/gate-oslo-incubator-python26/b0d0122/console.html | 20:04 |
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| copeland | I did notice that as well. FWIW, all of my regions are set to 'regionOne', so I'd hope that consistency is all that matters | 20:04 |
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| copeland | so, the error itself: "Endpoint for object-store not found - have you specified a region?" doesn't necessarily imply that region isn't set, it's just stating that there's an issue with the endpoint and merely suggesting that region may not be set? | 20:06 |
| zaitcev | hmm.... I'm trying to find this ServiceCatalog class for you real quick | 20:06 |
| copeland | because I can clearly see that region is set for all services.. | 20:06 |
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| copeland | so I'm assuming it must be an issue with using 'localhost' as the endpoint? | 20:06 |
| copeland | ok, thank you | 20:07 |
| zaitcev | No, I'm sure it's not the issue here. | 20:07 |
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| zaitcev | and BTW regionOne is the correct default, according to /usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/keystoneclient/v2_0/shell.py | 20:10 |
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| copeland | hm, interesting. | 20:10 |
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| zaitcev | Did you try to specify it in swift arguments? I typically omit it. | 20:11 |
| zaitcev | --os_region_name=regionOne | 20:11 |
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| zaitcev | I'll be darned, it's case-sensitive. I just checked | 20:12 |
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| copeland | you're asking if I included "--os_region_name=regionOne" when running swift stat? | 20:12 |
| zaitcev | Yes | 20:12 |
| copeland | I just treid it, same result. | 20:12 |
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| copeland | would you like to see the line to make sure I'm not making a mistake? | 20:14 |
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| zaitcev | oh... so it does if self.region_name and endpoint.get('region') != self.region_name:, meaning if parameter is NOT supplied, then just grab first entry regardless of the region. | 20:15 |
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| copeland | ah, so shouldn't matter if specified or not, if I only have one region? | 20:16 |
| zaitcev | copeland: would you pastebin the console session somewhere, as raw as possible (minding any passwords), with keystone service-list, keystone endpoint-list, and swift stat? | 20:17 |
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| copeland | sure, one minute. | 20:18 |
| zaitcev | copeland: Not quite. If not specified in --os_region_name, then it does not matter what region is in Keystone: the lookup matches all. If it is specified, then it must match. | 20:18 |
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| copeland | sent. | 20:20 |
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| zaitcev | wait a moment, why is it calle "object" and not "object-store"? | 20:21 |
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| zaitcev | | 7563877905e840e0aec39089aeb557df | swift | object | Swift Object Storage | | 20:22 |
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| ayoung | nkinder, rcrit stevemar, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/59848/ now with regex goodness | 20:49 |
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| stevemar | ayoung: cool, will look @ it soon | 21:02 |
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| ayoung | stevemar, its only a start | 21:02 |
| stevemar | ayoung: rgr that | 21:03 |
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| ayoung | heh, you know why we say Roger? | 21:03 |
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| ayoung | Cuz it used to be the Phonetic alphabet. Back in WWII time | 21:03 |
| ayoung | now the Phonetic alphabet has been NATOized and it i Romeo for R | 21:03 |
| ayoung | why R? Stands for Received | 21:04 |
| ayoung | R is what a morse code operator would send to indicate the message had been recieved | 21:04 |
| ayoung | so the ARmy just blindly copied over 'R' from morse, and says "Roger" instead of "Received" even though it is the same amount of syllables. | 21:05 |
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| ayoung | We called it "200 years of tradition, untroubled by progress." | 21:05 |
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| stevemar | ayoung, TIL the meaning behind roger. | 21:06 |
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| ayoung | and knowing is half the battle. THe other half is having sufficent ammunition | 21:07 |
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| stevemar | I knew R is Romeo (for the natoized version), didn't know it was Roger back in the day, cool cool | 21:08 |
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| nermina | hi sarob | 21:30 |
| ayoung | bknudson, dolphm we good with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/59834/1 ? I want to make sure we keep the momentum on the KVS reworking, as it is going to be in the critical path for the multiple Domains thing. | 21:31 |
| ayoung | and KVS depends on ^^ | 21:32 |
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| flaper87 | sdague: ping | 21:59 |
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| ekarlso | dtroyer_zz: you around for some devstackness ? | 22:07 |
| ekarlso | http://paste.ubuntu.com/6522113/ produces a funny " = " under [DEFAULT] in my nova.conf | 22:08 |
| ekarlso | or anyone else for that matter | 22:08 |
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| dtroyer_zz | ekarlso: looking... | 22:08 |
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| dtroyer_zz | ekarlso: is the '=' in addition to or instead of the config you specified | 22:10 |
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| ekarlso | dtroyer_zz: let me paste that | 22:10 |
| ekarlso | config | 22:10 |
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| bknudson | review 60000: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/60000/ | 22:11 |
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| ekarlso | dtroyer_zz: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6522149/ | 22:12 |
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| dtroyer_zz | ekarlso: any change line 77 in your config has spaces in it? | 22:17 |
| dtroyer_zz | s/change/chance/ | 22:17 |
| ekarlso | doesn't dtroyer_zz | 22:18 |
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| ekarlso | dtroyer_zz: try it yourself and you'll see | 22:21 |
| dtroyer_zz | ekarlso: I just did…it looks fine | 22:21 |
| ekarlso | hmmmms | 22:21 |
| ekarlso | let me try to spin it in a vm | 22:21 |
| ekarlso | diff one | 22:22 |
| dtroyer_zz | I'm looking through the log to give you something to search for... | 22:22 |
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| dtroyer_zz | ekarlso: in stack.sh.log, skip to this line: | 22:24 |
| dtroyer_zz | get_meta_section /home/dtroyer/devstack/local.conf post-config '$NOVA_CONF' | 22:24 |
| dtroyer_zz | then search for the iniset commands…I'm thinking there is one that will be badly-formed. probably the last one in the nova group | 22:25 |
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| ekarlso | dtroyer_zz: indeed | 22:28 |
| ekarlso | http://paste.ubuntu.com/6522207/ | 22:30 |
| ekarlso | it's setting a empty thing :( | 22:31 |
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| dtroyer_zz | The awk code in merge_config_file() only looks for non-empty lines to emit the iniset command. I'm re-trying with a space on the 'blank' line at the end of my NOVA_CONF section... | 22:44 |
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| dtroyer_zz | a) iniset() should exit early with empty attribute names; b) merge_config_file() shouldn't produce an empty iniset command... | 22:46 |
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| dtroyer_zz | ekarlso: ok, I duplicated it by putting a single space on the blank line... | 22:52 |
| ekarlso | dtroyer_zz: so a bug ? | 22:52 |
| ekarlso | ;p | 22:52 |
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| ekarlso | dtroyer_zz: able to fix ? | 22:55 |
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| dtroyer_zz | two bugs and for an unexpected config line…I think you can work around it by making sure the blank lines in local.conf really are empty | 22:56 |
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| ekarlso | they are dtroyer_zz ...' | 22:57 |
| dtroyer_zz | ekarlso: ok…putting whitespace there was the only way I could duplicate it | 22:57 |
| ekarlso | oh, actually it had a empty line :/ | 22:58 |
| ekarlso | just didn't see it with vi | 22:58 |
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| ekarlso | apmelton: or sandy__ http://pastebin.com/FWc06bTF | 23:17 |
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| lifeless | mordred: is ./jenkins_jobs/openstack/common/setup.py pre-pbr ? | 23:28 |
| clarkb | lifeless: yes | 23:28 |
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| lifeless | clarkb: so, russellb has a glitching solum job | 23:33 |
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| lifeless | clarkb: it looks like it isn't substittuting {{ to { properly in the template | 23:33 |
| clarkb | lifeless: which job? | 23:34 |
| lifeless | clarkb: and I was looking into the jjb code to see where param extraction and that sort of transform happens, but I'm utterly failing to find it. | 23:34 |
| lifeless | clarkb: https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/config/tree/modules/openstack_project/files/jenkins_job_builder/config/solum.yaml | 23:34 |
| lifeless | clarkb: http://logs.openstack.org/56/59256/2/check/gate-solum-devstack-dsvm/bfe2201/console.html | 23:34 |
| clarkb | oh that is beacuse it isn't a job template, I should've caught that in review... | 23:34 |
| lifeless | clarkb: I've suggested putting cat $0 in before line 5 to see what is rendered into the sh script | 23:34 |
| clarkb | not a JJB bug, just human error | 23:35 |
| clarkb | only job-template get run through string formatting | 23:35 |
| lifeless | clarkb: so, two questions: a) how does the {{ -> { stuff happen in JJB (point me at the code please) | 23:35 |
| russellb | oh. and since it's not a template ... | 23:35 |
| lifeless | clarkb: and b) as a reviewer what should I look for to tell job-template vs not-template apart | 23:35 |
| clarkb | lifeless: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/jenkins-job-builder/tree/jenkins_jobs/builder.py#n37 does the formatting, so wherever that function is called | 23:36 |
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| russellb | - job: vs - job-template: | 23:36 |
| clarkb | lifeless: ^ | 23:36 |
| lifeless | russellb: ack, thanks | 23:36 |
| russellb | i didn't know either, just was looking at other examples .. | 23:36 |
| russellb | ok, so now the failure makes perfect sense yay :) | 23:36 |
| lifeless | so the swift job russellb found must have been a template too | 23:36 |
| clarkb | ya the swift job is a template | 23:37 |
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| lifeless | oh, so the {{}} is dealt with by str.format(args) in CPython guts? | 23:37 |
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| lifeless | explains why I couldn't find a parser implementation in jjb | 23:37 |
| clarkb | yup | 23:38 |
| clarkb | I occasionally think jinja2 or some template language would be better | 23:38 |
| clarkb | but mostly so that I can put logic into the templates which is probably not a good thing | 23:38 |
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| russellb | where you at bot | 23:39 |
| nkinder | jamielennox: good morning | 23:39 |
| russellb | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/60110/ | 23:39 |
| jamielennox | nkinder: morning, i'm just having a look through your doc now | 23:39 |
| nkinder | jamielennox: looking into addressing the comments by bknudson now as well. | 23:39 |
| nkinder | jamielennox: I'm not sure about his question around the need to base64 encode the metadata objects. | 23:40 |
| jamielennox | nkinder: that's what i've mostly responded to so far | 23:40 |
| nkinder | jamielennox: do you know if there was a particular reason simo did that? | 23:40 |
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| russellb | oh wrong channel. | 23:40 |
| jamielennox | nkinder: It has to be treated specially because there is no guarantee of order with json -> python dictionaries. To make this stable then we would need to nest a JSON encoded dictionary string within a JSON document which is less that ideal. | 23:41 |
| jamielennox | I'm not a fan of the base64 myself - do you have something else? | 23:41 |
| jamielennox | I guess we could say that the metadata dictionary is alphabetically ordered then jsoned then the signature is computed - but that still is more trouble than simply transmitting the base64. | 23:41 |
| nkinder | jamielennox: ah, ok. Does it make the HMAC easier? | 23:41 |
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| nkinder | jamielennox: I don't have anything particular in mind yet. I was curious to know the reason first. | 23:42 |
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| jamielennox | yea, i asked him about that one as well - it's not a great solution because it's just base64 encoded JSON but everything else seems like a lot of fiddly work | 23:42 |
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| nkinder | jamielennox: as long as there's a reason, that's fine. I need to clarify the JSON in the API doc though. | 23:45 |
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| nkinder | jamielennox: the metadata objects should be described, then we should show that the request/response just has "metadata" as a base64 string. | 23:46 |
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| jamielennox | hmm, bknudson is correct in that there shouldn't be Base64.encode( in the json strings but it does a really good job of showing the expected format | 23:47 |
| nkinder | jamielennox: I suppose I should also replace "serialized" with "based64 encoded" in the doc to be more clear. | 23:47 |
| dtroyer_zz | ekarlso: ok, try this out: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/60112/ I'm off to dinner now… | 23:47 |
| bknudson | jamielennox: nkinder: Could define a canonical JSON formatting. (order of keys, whitespace) | 23:47 |
| bknudson | "normalized" | 23:47 |
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| jamielennox | bknudson: maybe - but with all the crypto that is happening it is a really easy thing to break leading to a really difficult thing to figure out | 23:50 |
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| bknudson | jamielennox: ok, I agree with the reason to go with JSON. | 23:51 |
| bknudson | but don't need to base-64 encode it. | 23:51 |
| bknudson | could just be JSON in a JSON string. | 23:52 |
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| jamielennox | bknudson: doesn't that lead to JSON doing a whole bunch of escaping? | 23:52 |
| bknudson | jamielennox: JSON handles escaping just fine. | 23:52 |
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| ekarlso | BobBall: around ? | 23:54 |
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| jamielennox | bknudson, nkinder: ok i can't immediately think of anything that that will break | 23:56 |
| nkinder | bknudson: I have addressed most of your other comments, so I should be able to get another update out once we get the base64 thing worked out. | 23:56 |
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| nkinder | jamielennox: did the 201 response code make sense to you for the 2 POST requests (get a ticket, create a group)? | 23:57 |
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| jamielennox | nkinder: i'm ok with 201 for create a group, not sure about get a ticket | 23:58 |
| nkinder | jamielennox: the ticket one seems a bit odd. I think of it as getting a ticket, not creating a resource. | 23:59 |
| jamielennox | as bknudson said we may need a resource URL in the group create - because the group is something that will exist | 23:59 |
| jamielennox | the ticket is not something that you can ever reference, it is just something that you get | 23:59 |
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