Monday, 2013-12-02

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ekarlsofrom testscenarios import load_tests_apply_scenarios as load_tests #noqa00:41
ekarlsothat the correct syntax ?00:41
* ekarlso should be in snore land atm :/00:41
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ekarlsothanks lifeless !00:51
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ekarlsoBtw, it was <import>  # noqa00:51
ekarlsodoublespace before # and one after :)00:51
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lifelessekarlso: cool00:54
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AbhishekHi all, looking for some feedback on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/58428/00:58
AbhishekI guess NoUniqueMatch should never occur, but then I might just be wrong00:59
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ayjamielennox|away, you now have a couple approvals in the queue.  If they die due to failures, please do the "reverify" thing.  I'll check on their status in the morning.01:26
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jamielennoxlifeless: i'm trying to define a base test class with testscenarios so that everything inheriting from it will be run with the databases defined on the base class03:29
jamielennoxi'm assuming it's possible but where do i need to insert the load_tests call?03:29
lifelessjamielennox: cool; I will be happy to help, but gotta run pickup daughter from kindy right now03:30
lifelessjamielennox: see back about 5 hours where I was discussing a similar thing with ekarlso03:30
lifelessand I'll be back here with partial attention shortly03:30
lifelessand then more full in a few hours03:30
jamielennoxlifeless: ok, i'll have a look at get back to you if i can't figure it out03:30
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lifelessjamielennox: ok, I have some cycles now04:49
jamielennoxlifeless: thanks - i haven't gotten anywhere with it04:50
lifelessjamielennox: ok; which git tree is this in?04:50
jamielennoxso i thought it might be a nose thing - but you explicitly say that load_tests should work with nose04:50
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jamielennoxlifeless: it's not really in one at the moment04:50
jamielennoxhang on04:50
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lifelesserm, AFAIK nose doesn't honour load_tests.04:51
lifelessthere may be a missing 'not' somewhere04:52
lifelessnose2 should honour it - the rewrite on top of unittest204:52
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jamielennoxergh04:53
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jamielennoxhate nose04:53
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lifelessjamielennox: are you using nose?05:00
jamielennoxlifeless: somewhat05:00
lifelessjamielennox: what code base are you hacking on?05:00
jamielennoxi'm still doing a lot of pdb stuff which i can only do with nose AFAIK05:00
lifelessyou can do pdb with testtools.run for sure05:01
jamielennoxnew extension to keystone05:01
lifelessand it's basically my top feature request for testr05:01
jamielennoxlifeless: ok https://github.com/jamielennox/keystone/tree/kdstest/keystone/tests/contrib/kds/db05:02
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jamielennoxbase.py has the scenarios05:02
jamielennoxtest_host_keys has the actual tests and __init__ has a reference to testscnearios05:03
jamielennoxif i run it with ./run_tests.sh -N keystone.tests.contrib.kds i get deprecated error and it doesn't find my parameters05:04
jamielennoxbut that should be using tox and testr05:04
lifelessok05:05
lifelessso base.py needs the load_tests05:05
lifelessload_tests in __init__ is ignored (upstream bug - http://bugs.python.org/issue16662)05:05
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lifelessso even if it did apply cross-module (it doesn't) it would have to be in base.py05:06
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jamielennoxok, moved - same issue05:06
jamielennoxtestr run keystone.tests.contrib.kds05:06
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lifelessso lets walk before running - testr list-tests kds05:06
jamielennoxAttributeError: 'KeyDbTestCase' object has no attribute 'sql_backend'05:07
lifelessfrom list-tests?05:07
jamielennoxno that's the failure from running - was jumping the gun05:08
lifelessbtw the usual way I'd expect to see the import is05:08
lifelessfrom testscenarios import load_tests_apply_scenarios as load_tests  # noqa05:08
lifeless(or ignored in tox.ini)05:08
lifelessfunctionally equivalent of course05:08
jamielennoxok, will do05:09
jamielennoxjust finds the 4 tests: http://paste.openstack.org/show/54269/05:09
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lifelessok, so they haven't been parameterised.05:09
lifelessoh05:10
lifelessdoes keystone not use discovery?05:10
lifelesshmm, it does05:10
lifelesstry renaming base.py to test_base.py ?05:10
jamielennoxah ha! it picks them all up if i import load tests into test_host_keys05:11
lifelessoh right05:11
lifelessso you'resubclassing the scenarios05:11
lifelessgotchya. And yes - you'll need load_tests in each place.05:11
lifelessor we need to do a higher level thing, but there are bugs upstream that make that impractical right now.05:11
lifelesssorry05:12
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jamielennoxthat's fine, but it at least makes sense why it wasn't working as i expected05:12
jamielennoxok so i just need to import load_tests into every file with a subclass of db tests05:13
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jamielennoxlifeless: thanks for that05:13
lifelessjamielennox: anytime05:14
lifelessjamielennox: as always, it's interesting to see issues folk have - and if you have feedback later I'm all ears05:15
jamielennoxlifeless: testscenario fixture would be useful and have solved this problem - i've no idea if that's possible05:16
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lifelessjamielennox: where you go 'self.useFixture()' and it converts you to running several independent tests?05:16
jamielennoxbut something that can be put into the setUp path means it gets inherited by subclasses05:17
lifelessoh right05:17
lifelessso there is something actually, but it's more intrusive05:17
lifelesshttps://pypi.python.org/pypi/testscenarios under Subclasssing05:17
lifeless(just noticed the typo :P)05:17
jamielennoxyea, saw that earlier05:17
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lifelessbut05:18
lifelesswhat I'd actually do for us is wrap the entire discovered test suite05:18
lifelessas a higher order thing05:18
lifelessbut I think we have some engineering to do to make that [cleanly] possible05:18
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jamielennoxi'm purposefully importing as much as oslo as i can so maybe even if we put it as the base class in oslo's /test.py05:19
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k4n0Hey guys, can i get some reviewer eyes on these reviews , https://review.openstack.org/#/c/59187/ , https://review.openstack.org/#/c/57614/10:00
k4n0The nova review depends on the tempest review getting merged10:00
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ttxmarkmc: could use your +2 on the oslo.rootwrap reviews @ https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/oslo.rootwrap,n,z -- need them to complete this by i-110:57
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markmcttx, ok, thanks10:57
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ttxmarkmc: it's adding the "it's not a library" doc and hopefully result in usable tarballs if the whole automation works alright10:57
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markmcttx, ok, +2ed both11:02
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ttxmarkmc: awesome, thx11:02
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DavieyISTR devstack having a 'don't use OS packages, only pip'... but i can't see it now.. Was it removed?11:46
sorenIsn't that the default?11:47
sorenI mean... Some things must come from the distro, but apart from those things, I thought everything came from pip.11:47
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Davieysorefault devstack, grizzly on rhel6 i am seeing a hunk of attempted yum installs11:49
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Davieysoren, http://pb.daviey.com/5VnN/11:51
sorenA bunch of those can't be pulled from pip.11:51
sorenSince they're not python things.11:51
Davieywell yes, i get that11:52
Davieybut i wanted to get all things that can be done from pip, from pip11:52
sorenI don't know about the rest. Maybe they're dependencies of some of the things that aren't python things somehow?11:52
Davieyis kvm not written in python? :)11:52
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RuediRIn havana I cant boot from ISO. I get "Boot failed: could not read the boot disk" and in libvirt.xml the disk device is set to "disk".12:00
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RuediRIf I change that to "cdrom" and create a new instance from the libvirt.xml everything works fine.12:01
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danpbRuediR: please file a bug describing exact scenario you are trying todo12:03
RuediROK, will do ….12:03
danpbboot from cdrom should work, at least with correctly configured glance images12:03
RuediRYes, thats what I thought- It worked in folsom ….12:04
RuediRThanks danpb!!12:04
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dhellmann /msg markmc ping?13:03
markmc /msg dhellmann hey13:03
dhellmannhmm13:03
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markmc:)13:03
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stan_ivanovIs there are a more effective way to develop an extension other than restarting the server on every change?13:08
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rdopieralskistan_ivanov: extension for what?13:09
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stan_ivanovnova13:11
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rdopieralskino ide about nova, maybe someone else will know13:12
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rdopieralskiidea*13:12
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ttxdhellmann: around?13:14
dhellmannhere13:14
ttxdhellmann: hi! shall we have our little 1:1 sync ?13:15
dhellmannttx: ready!13:15
ttxdhellmann: ok, looking at https://launchpad.net/oslo/+milestone/icehouse-113:15
ttxLooks pretty straightforward to me :)13:15
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dhellmannI checked the date on the commit for that bug, and I think that didn't go into H but is in I13:16
dhellmannand then there's this ttx guy who has a blueprint with code needing review ;-)13:16
ttxdhellmann: i'll need your +2 on that README.rst addition at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/58774/13:16
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dhellmannI'll take a look right after we're done13:16
ttxdhellmann: then I need to add something to get it to install files under /etc -- I suspect i need to platy with data-files in setup.cfg ?13:17
ttxplay*13:17
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ttxthen if everythign goes right I should be able to tag13:17
dhellmannyes, you can use data files to install non-code files13:17
dhellmannbut I don't think you can install under /etc from an sdist package -- that's something the distro packagers will have to deal with13:17
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ttxyeah, just want pip to almost do the right thing13:18
dhellmannright13:18
dhellmannshould be examples of that in the other projects where they ship their sample configuration files13:18
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ttxso that should be completed by Thursday, not affected by freeze tomorrow anyway13:18
dhellmannok13:18
ttxno need to clean up bugs or add some, I think i-1 looks good13:19
dhellmannttx: markmc did a bunch of work on the oslo.messaging project status: https://launchpad.net/oslo.messaging/+milestone/icehouse-113:19
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ttxah, ok13:20
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ttxbit confusing that we keep on tracking oslo work with release work while they follow their own rhythm, but meh13:21
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* ttx is not sure of the best way around that13:21
dhellmannyeah, a bit, but it should help the apps planning to adopt features of the libraries, too13:21
ttxdhellmann: just wondering if I shouyld just add oslo.messaging to http://status.openstack.org/release/13:22
dhellmannif we say the notification listener will be in i-2, for example, then projects know to look at using it in i-313:22
markmcalso, oslo.config and oslo.messaging do follow openstack rhythm - e.g. feature freeze, stable branch, etc.13:22
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ttxand then look at both when we do our 1:1s13:22
markmcwe do releases between milestones, but that's just to allow projects to consume new APIs13:22
dhellmannttx: I think it should be included13:22
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ttxdhellmann: ok, will do13:23
dhellmannit includes features visible to deployers13:23
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ttxSo, looking at the general icehouse plan(s) at https://blueprints.launchpad.net/oslo/icehouse https://blueprints.launchpad.net/oslo.messaging/icehouse13:23
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dhellmannif this experiment with oslo.messaging works out, I will want to create an oslo.config project, too -- one for each library13:24
* dhellmann looks13:24
ttxdhellmann: status looks good to me. Is it complete now ? i.e. representing the current state of knowledge ?13:24
dhellmannttx: yes, it should be current13:24
ttxmarkmc: will add it to release status so that it's easier to find oslo.messaging work13:25
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ttxdhellmann: ok, well, that's all I had, then.13:25
markmcttx, cool, thanks13:25
ttxdhellmann: safe flight(s)13:25
dhellmannttx: thanks, see you thursday!13:26
ttxdhellmann: see you soon13:26
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ayoungmorganfainberg, please reconfirm that https://review.openstack.org/#/c/38414/ is still good and we can merge.14:06
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ttxdhellmann, markmc: oslo.rootwrap should be good to go with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/59383 (adding etc/ files)14:19
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dsantos_hi, I'm trying to run nova in apache2 but when I try to call the rest api with curl I get an error "Authentication required". I changed the auth_protocol to https in nova.conf and other places (and I changed the endpoints as well). I don't know what else I should do to get it working. Could someone help me?14:23
dhellmannttx: do you want to add a sample filter file?14:23
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ttxdhellmann: I thought about it but decided against it, since by default I'd rather have it not allow anything14:24
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ttxWe could extend that .FILTERS placeholder to include an example, though... but that info is in README.rst alright14:24
dhellmannttx: ok. the .FILTERS name feels a little weird -- why not just call it README?14:25
dhellmannor would rootwrap not ignore it then?14:25
ttxdhellmann: it only ignored .dotfiles currently14:25
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ttxignores*14:25
ttxdhellmann: but suggestions for a better .dotfiled-name welcome :)14:26
ttx.readme ?14:26
ttx(would be like 'i'm invisible but you should read me')14:26
dhellmannyes,  I think that would be a better name14:26
ttxdhellmann: ok, comment and i'll fix it14:27
markmcI think .empty-dir or similar is pretty common14:27
dhellmannmore like "I'm supposed to be ignored by programs, but wink, wink, you should read me"14:27
dhellmannmarkmc: that applies when there is no content, but this file is a set of instructions14:27
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ttxdhellmann: I could remove the instructions though14:27
ttxdhellmann: they are duplicated info from the README14:28
markmcdhellmann, yeah, instructions in a hidden file is a bit weird14:28
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ttxso, a .empty-dir empty file is a possibility too14:28
dhellmannttx; ok, I hadn't noticed they were the same14:28
dhellmanndo we need to package an empty directory?14:28
dhellmannisn't having that directory created the responsibility of the distro package or deployer?14:29
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ttxdhellmann: that's a good question. The idea is that the directory needs to be owned by root and writeable by root. Encouraging people to create it manually would be error-prone14:29
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ttxand getting it wrong would rip the security open14:29
dhellmannttx: how do we convey those instructions to the distro folks?14:29
dhellmannmaybe rootwrap should ignore files that do not have those settings?14:30
dhellmannlike ssh refuses to read config files with the wrong permissions14:30
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ttxI guess we culd do that. I wanted to ship the etc/oslo/rootwrap/rootwrap.d directory so that you just drop in the filters file you need14:32
ttxand the most convenient way to do taht is to ship some file in it14:32
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dhellmannttx: right, but I'm not sure that doing it in the python package actually buys you that much, does it?14:32
markmcpackaging an empty directory isn't a problem14:32
markmcan empty directory in git is the problem14:32
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dhellmannthe directory ends up in the wrong place, owned by the installer of the sdist14:32
ttxmarkmc: yep14:32
markmcIMHO a good oslo.rootwrap package would include /etc/oslo.rootwrap14:33
markmcoh, there we go again14:33
markmccan we make it /etc/oslo.rootwrap rather than /etc/oslo/rootwrap ?14:33
markmcso people don't have to create a package to own /etc/oslo14:33
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dhellmanngood point14:33
ttxmarkmc: sure, that makes sense14:33
ttxdhellmann: for the directory, two options: ship a default config file which does not set any directory on the filters_path, and no directory14:35
ttxor ship with one directory mentioned in the config file and creating it14:35
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ttxmight be better as far as pip is concerned to not ship any directory14:36
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ttxand force people/packages to edit that config file before putting it to use14:37
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ttxmarkmc: read your comment - at this point I wonder if it's not simpler to just leave the directories defined in rootwrap.conf and not create them at all.14:39
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ttx/etc/oslo.rootwrap and /usr/share should be root-only anyway14:40
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markmcyeah14:40
markmcif python packaging makes it hard to have 'pip install' create those dirs14:40
ttxat least that's what makes the packagers jobs easier14:40
markmccolour me shocked and disappointed14:41
dhellmannpip doesn't want to create directories outside of the python area, iiuc14:41
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ttxdhellmann: would /etc/oslo.rootwrap still be fine ?14:42
dhellmannttx: it's fine to say we use that directory, but you won't get it by using "pip install oslo.rootwrap"14:42
ttxdhellmann: ah, ok14:42
dhellmannI'm not actually sure where the etc files would end up in that case14:43
ttxdhellmann: so I should ship the example file... in the documentation only ? as some deadweight in the Python area ?14:43
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ttxor just where it is in the tarball14:44
dhellmannttx: I'm looking at ceilometer's package14:45
dhellmannwe have an etc/ceilometer with some files in it14:45
dhellmannand those go into the top level of the source package14:45
ttxdhellmann: I bet pip doesn't install them though. Only Neutron has data-files14:45
dhellmannso that seems ok14:45
ttxright14:45
dhellmannyeah, I haven't tried pip installing this package so I'm not sure14:45
dhellmannbut I'll bet you are right14:45
dhellmannjust like if you have a set of tests14:45
dhellmannoutside of your main python package14:46
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ttxok, let's do that.14:46
dhellmannttx: in any case, there's precedent and the distro guys must know what to do with the results :-)14:46
dhellmannzul: ping?14:46
zuldhellmann:  whats up14:46
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ttxdhellmann: they use the tarball, so they should be very fine14:46
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dhellmannzul: hey, ttx has a question about where to put config files in the sdists14:47
dhellmannttx: good point14:47
ttxdhellmann: let's just say I know some packaging14:47
zulwhy not oslo.rootwrap/etc ?14:47
dhellmannttx: ok, I don't usually need to do this part :-)14:47
dhellmannzul: yeah, that's what I think we agreed on, but I took the long way around to reach that conclusion14:48
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zuldhellmann:  ah14:48
ttxzul: oI was trying to make pip do the right thing, but that doesn't really impact you14:48
dhellmannttx: what did we decide about the empty directory?14:48
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ttxdhellmann: I'll not ship the directories. Just hint to where they should exist by having a default filters_path value14:48
dhellmannyeah, I think we just have to give up on that for pip -- which probably  means a devstack change to ensure the directory exists14:48
dhellmannttx: works fo rme14:49
ttxdhellmann: safe enough since /etc/oslo.rootwrap and /usr/share are root-only14:49
ttxzul: I shall have a tentative oslo.rootwrap tarball for you to look into soon14:49
zulttx: cool14:49
* dhellmann is finally going for breakfast14:49
ttxzul: looks sane to me for packaging reuse but would welcome your opinion14:49
zulttx: lemme know14:50
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mdboothI'm new to openstack, and currently trying to debug a startup problem with the vmware driver. The driver problem is interesting in itself, but tbh I'm more interested in getting a handle on my dev environment right now.14:50
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mdboothI'm using devstack, and I'm trying to start nova compute with pdb14:51
mdboothThe issue I have is that it seems to create a Service object14:51
mdboothMagic happens14:51
mdboothAnd then everything runs at once, with breakpoints ignored14:51
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mdboothCan anybody give me any pointers about the 'Magic happens' step?14:52
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ttxmarkmc: that should work: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/59411/215:11
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viktorsdevananda: hi15:48
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dhellmannttx: how are you planning to handle bugs for oslo.rootwrap? keep them in the oslo project, or start a new project on launchpad?15:55
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ttxdhellmann: I planned to use the rootwrap tag on oslo15:55
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dhellmannttx: ok15:56
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dhellmannwhen we move to storyboard, I think it will make more sense to have separate projects for everything15:56
dhellmannfor now, I'm content to just experiment with oslo.messaging15:56
ttxdhellmann: we'll have to anyway15:56
dhellmannoh?15:57
ttxdhellmann: (storyboard enforces one repo = one project)15:57
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ttxthen you have a "oslo program view" that lets you see everything in the same page(s)15:57
dhellmannttx: makes sense15:57
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ttx(flexible project groups)15:57
dhellmannttx: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Oslo#oslo.rootwrap15:57
ttxack15:57
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mgagnealexpilotti: ping16:49
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alexpilottimgagne: hi!17:16
mgagnealexpilotti: I finally made it work and had the chance to test setuserpassword with configdrive =)17:16
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mgagnealexpilotti: I however found what I consider a bug ^^'17:17
mgagnealexpilotti: cloudbase-init expects admin_pass to be set in meta by the user. Nova however injects a random (or not) password in admin_pass, one level above meta. =)17:18
alexpilottimgagne: nice, can you describe what the issue is?17:18
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mgagnealexpilotti: If the user chooses/injects a password through Horizon UI, it won't be considered as cloudbase-init expects to find it elsewhere.17:19
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alexpilottimgagne: can you please send me one of your sample config-drive.isos?17:19
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mgagnealexpilotti: https://github.com/cloudbase/cloudbase-init/blob/master/cloudbaseinit/plugins/windows/setuserpassword.py#L62-L6317:20
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mgagnealexpilotti: admin_pass is found in meta_data, not meta.17:20
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alexpilottimgagne: will test it out. WHen we checked it, the metadata password was set into a "password" firld17:21
alexpilotti*field, hashed17:21
dolphmmorganfainberg: bknudson: =D https://review.openstack.org/#/c/52456/17:21
mgagnealexpilotti: well, it is not the same (with Grizzly)17:21
alexpilottimgagne: did you check with Havana?17:21
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mgagnealexpilotti: I don't have an Havana test env.17:22
alexpilottimgagne: we ended up "redefining" it in a custome meta data field because of all those inconsistencies that we found17:22
alexpilottimgagne: although there's an easy way out: check in meta_data["admin_pass"] and only afterwards in meta["admin_pass"]17:22
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alexpilottimgagne: if you could send me one of your test isos it would help in getting this fixed faster :-)17:23
mgagnealexpilotti: or the other way around if backward compatibility is a concern17:23
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danpbare there details of what OS distro + versions all the various machines for the jenkins gate jobs run on ?17:25
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alexpilottimgagne: we don't like too much to encourage people to use this solutions, as clear text passwords in a configdrive mean that they are  very easy accessible17:26
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alexpilottimgagne: but at the same time if users ask for it we need to provide it :-)17:26
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mgagnealexpilotti: I'm already coding a fix. Want me to still send the iso?17:29
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alexpilottiyes please17:29
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alexpilottimgagne: it'd be great if you could open an issue on github17:30
mgagnealexpilotti: I wanted to get your opinion or the reason what meta was used instead =)17:30
alexpilottimgagne: we have to check and compare the metadata format with Folsom / Grizzly ? Havana at least17:30
alexpilottimgagne: the last ? was meant to be a / :-)17:31
viraptorhi all, I'm a bit confused by instance.save() - could someone tell me why would it remove the 'host' parameter when used on a result from fake_instance_get() - it's replaced by None for some reason :/17:31
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mgagnealexpilotti: Looks like the password is injected by the virt driver. It looks the same in all versions.17:42
mgagnealexpilotti: master: https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/virt/libvirt/driver.py#L2513-L253217:42
mgagnealexpilotti: havana: https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/stable/havana/nova/virt/libvirt/driver.py#L2406-L242517:42
mgagnealexpilotti: grizzly: https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/stable/grizzly/nova/virt/libvirt/driver.py#L1876-L189517:42
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alexpilottimgagne: ok, that'd explain it. On Hyper-V we call the APIs that generate the configdrive17:44
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alexpilottimgagne: and don't mess with them :-)17:44
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alexpilottimgagne: this way it looks like a hypervisor specific feature and this complicates things a bit17:44
mgagnealexpilotti: my fix would be to check for meta_data/meta/admin_pass, fallback to meta/admin_pass if first is missing and then random password17:44
alexpilottimgagne: +117:45
mgagnealexpilotti: this is where my password ends up when setting it through Horizon17:45
dsantos_demontie17:46
alexpilottimgagne: when you brought up the issue I created a VM in Hyper-V, checked the metadata, didn't find it, looked at the HTTP metadata, found the "password" field17:46
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dsantos_hi, I'm trying to run nova in apache2 but when I try to call the rest api with curl I get an error "Authentication required". I changed the auth_protocol to https in nova.conf and other places (and I changed the endpoints as well). I don't know what else I should do to get it working. Could someone help me?17:47
alexpilottimgagne: under the wrong assumption that metadata were the same across hypervisors17:47
alexpilottimgagne: adding a KVM in the queue17:48
mgagnealexpilotti: xenapi *looks* to do the same.17:48
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mgagnealexpilotti: tbh, it's the first time I see it as an hypervisor specific feature17:49
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mgagnealexpilotti: xenapi: https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/virt/xenapi/vm_utils.py#L1117-L114617:49
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alexpilottimgagne: as I asid I'm going to verify and in case push a patch for Hyper-V as well (altough my concern on the whole clear text password idea remains)17:50
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alexpilottimgagne: for now let's go on with your idea for the patch, which is simple ed effective17:51
mgagnealexpilotti: I understand your concern regarding clear text password. I can argue that meta/admin_pass has the same concerns or people using cloud-config (with Linux) to change/inject password.17:51
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alexpilottimgagne: if you try to speak with smoser on the cloud-init channel about passwords, you'll hear some swearing ;-)17:52
mgagnealexpilotti: hehe17:52
alexpilottimgagne: and I agree: on Linux there's really no need for a password17:52
alexpilottimgagne: SSH keys are perfect17:52
mgagnealexpilotti: that's not the POV of some product managers here ;)17:52
alexpilottimgagne: I wish we had them (already) on Windows ;-)17:53
russellbdhellmann: I just noticed that kombu has a zeromq transport.  It would be interesting to investigate if we could drop having any zmq specific code and just use kombu (what we use for rabbitmq).  https://github.com/celery/kombu/pull/14817:53
russellbdhellmann: that probably didn't exist when the original zmq support was written17:53
mgagnealexpilotti: doesn't windows support client cert authentication?17:53
mgagnealexpilotti: it's a non-ending battle17:53
alexpilottimgagne: understood. "The customer is always right" :-)17:53
alexpilottimgagne: yep, we're in the process of adding WinRM support with client side certs17:54
alexpilottimgagne: for that we need a new feature coming in Icehouse to post some metadata objects17:54
alexpilottimgagne: RDP on the otther isde works well with smart cards but not simple client certs17:55
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mgagnealexpilotti: the challenge remains: how do you educate the average end users about those security features (sshkey/cert) ? =)17:55
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alexpilottimgagne: in our case we "solved" it by making it incredibly hard to get to the clear text password option :-D17:56
alexpilottimgagne: just kidding (almost)17:56
mgagnealexpilotti: we (where I work) aren't in the business of providing services to the tech savvy users. Well, we try to aim both tbh and it isn't easy because of those challenges.17:57
mgagnealexpilotti: so that's why I'm bugging you with those questions :D17:57
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alexpilottimgagne: IMO the only way is to provide a very simple authentication solution that's as easy as a password17:58
alexpilottimgagne: and obviously nobody got it yet ;-)17:59
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alexpilottimgagne: ok back to reality, as soon as you send me a pull we're doing a run of tests and merge it ASAP17:59
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mgagnealexpilotti: https://github.com/cloudbase/cloudbase-init/pull/2918:02
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stevemarayoung: ping18:09
alexpilottimgagne: tx!18:09
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isdstevemar: know what's up with bug #1252428? People were generally saying the patch looked good, and then everything went silent, I imagine because people disappeared for thanksgiving. Hasn't been merged in yet, but the ball is in other people's court.18:18
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1252428 in keystone "The module keystone.common.dependency is too sparsely documented." [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/125242818:18
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stevemarisd, you're probably right, things went quiet last week18:20
stevemarisd, haha, it's +2'd and everything18:21
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stevemarisd, catch morganfainberg when he comes online, he can approve it18:22
stevemaror maybe bknudson will take a second look ^ (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/57039/)18:23
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ayoungstevemar, yeah18:26
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stevemarayoung: you took a look at the mapping kristy put up on gist? what is the 'requirement' part for? https://gist.github.com/kwss/770484418:27
ayoungstevemar, I think you have to look at the two rules.  One is "none of these"  and the other is "any of these" so taken   together they cover all bases18:29
ayoungit isn't the clearest language18:29
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ayoungstevemar, better to have them in a single statement, with one the more restrictive and the other the catch all...18:29
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stevemarayoung: there is also a 'any one of'18:32
ayoungits a matching rule18:33
ayoungyou'd have to order them, and her example doesn't really show that too well18:33
* ayoung would like it if they were sometimes in here to discuss18:33
stevemarayoung: so its something to further help map the remote to local stuff18:33
ayoungI think so18:33
stevemaryeah, i was very confused about it when i first saw it, no explanation :)18:34
ayoungstevemar, question is " what is the minimal we can do today and have something backwards compatible"18:34
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ayoungI'd be OK with punting on the regex stuff in impl, so long as we have it covered in the API docs18:34
stevemarbackwards compatible for what?18:34
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stevemarah18:34
ayoungstevemar, yeah...something like, don't have an id that looks like this ->  (asdklsd):(al;sdka;slkjd)18:35
morganfainbergmornin18:37
isdmorganfainberg: ^ hey18:37
morganfainbergisd, yeah, I am getting web browsers all setup.18:37
isdcool.18:38
morganfainbergisd, will be looking art it shortly18:38
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morganfainbergisd, approved.18:39
isdmorganfainberg: thanks.18:40
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morganfainbergisd, yeah i was busy with other things this weekend...didn't remmebr to come back to it ;)18:40
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stevemarmorganfainberg, excuses18:41
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stevemarayoung: there is one case i'm not sure how to represent18:41
isdhey, I'd been basically incognito since Wednesday.18:42
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ayoungmorganfainberg, please reconfirm that https://review.openstack.org/#/c/38414/ is still good and we can merge.18:42
morganfainbergayoung, looking now18:42
ayoungmorganfainberg, thanks.  Discovery has been much requested for a while now, would be nice to get it in18:42
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morganfainbergayoung, totally understand it.18:43
morganfainbergayoung, and i agree18:43
ayoungmorganfainberg, BTW,  what does using the abc abstract method decorator buy us?18:43
morganfainbergstevemar, *makes some comment about someone not coming back for a more-in-depth review of another patchset*18:43
morganfainbergayoung, it makes it so you know immidiately (on instantiation) if all the "required" methods have been defined.18:44
morganfainbergayoung, you can't instantiate the class (or well subclass) without those methods being redefined.  it's a way to communicate requirements to plugins/downstream developers/etc18:44
ayoungmorganfainberg, as opposed to waiting until one is called and getting...what was it in Turbo C++  "Pure virtual function called"18:44
morganfainbergayoung, yeah18:45
morganfainbergayoung, or in our case: NotImplemented18:45
morganfainbergwhich might be valid, but it becomes an explicit choice not an accident18:45
ayoungOnce again, Python forcing us to do at run time that which should properly be done at compile time.18:46
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stevemarmorganfainberg: oh damn, i did say that didn't i :)18:46
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morganfainbergayoung, you need to work within the language sometimes.  it would be nice if that could be handled at compile time.18:47
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morganfainbergstevemar, see this can go both ways :P18:47
ayoungmorganfainberg, so you are saying I need to stop whingeing about Python.18:47
morganfainbergayoung, nope, wouldn't ever recommend that, means I'd have to stop too18:48
morganfainberg;)18:48
stevemarayoung: there was a case where we were AND'ing 2 'types' earlier, i'm not sure how that fits into the mapping they proposed (https://gist.github.com/stevemart/531ef9e3fa90e2cba84e orgPersonType and sn maps to "admin")18:48
stevemarupdated version of kristys: https://gist.github.com/stevemart/cf99558f3c68794aa66518:49
stevemarayoung: unless that is why they were using an array under 'remote'18:50
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ayoungstevemar, I would not think that AND in that particular case makes sense18:51
ayoungstevemar, looking18:52
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stevemarayoung: super-awesome updated one: https://gist.github.com/stevemart/cf99558f3c68794aa66518:54
ayoungstevemar, We want to think about how the processing is going to be done.  I would assume:  one incoming attribute at a time and no saved state.  BUt one incoming attribute can be processed by multiple rules, and one incoming attribute can create mutliple outgoing attributes, even from one rule18:54
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ayoungquestion is what happens if one rule attempts to write an outgoing attribute that has already been written by a previous rule18:55
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stevemarayoung: i'm just interested in if i have everything covered for now :)18:56
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ayoungstevemar, right now we are figuring out what questions to ask, no?18:56
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stevemarayoung: we'll do it your way :P18:57
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ayoungstevemar, my way's not very sportsmanlike18:57
isdSo, I'm trying to figure out to what extend keystone supports multiple services of the same time. It looks to me like you can define multiple services of the same type & give them endpoints, and keystone will only return one when you ask for it. Is this basically correct? How does keystone decide which to return? Is there any reason why it's currently useful to be able to create more than one, or is it just for things we might do in the future?18:57
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isds/extend/extent/18:58
ayoungisd, endpoint filtering18:58
ayoungthat was a question isd.  Endpoint filtering?18:58
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ayoungisd, https://blueprints.launchpad.net/keystone/+spec/endpoint-filtering18:58
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isdI'll have a look.18:59
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morganfainbergayoung, yes still looks going, going to +2/+A19:01
ayoungnice19:02
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ayoungmorganfainberg, I like thorough code reviews, but every now and then we need to remember that "The perfect is the enemy of the good."19:02
morganfainbergayoung, lol yeah i just did the how does this compare to previous reviews.19:02
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morganfainbergayoung, and made sure nothing stood out as broken.19:03
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morganfainbergayoung, almost done with token kvs/memcache refactor to use new KVS (as an example)19:03
ayoungmorganfainberg, very cool19:03
ayoungmorganfainberg, I want to use KVS as shorthand, but when talking to people, we should spell out KeyValueStore or even just KeyValue...19:04
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morganfainbergayoung, sounds good.19:04
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ayoungmorganfainberg, hea, Acronyms suck.  And in the days of statement completions and cut/paste are not super necessary19:04
morganfainbergayoung, when i submit it to oslo, I'll be making it oslo.KeyValueStore not19:04
morganfainbergkvs19:04
ayoungkuhl19:05
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morganfainbergayoung, once we land it in Keystone i'll open the review for oslo-incubator.19:05
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morganfainberghopefully accepted in Icehouse timeline19:05
ayoungPlan!19:05
morganfainbergthen i'll see if i can cleanup caching layer to be usable in oslo as well19:06
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morganfainbergtake a crack at adding caching to another project ;)19:06
morganfainberg(maybe(19:06
roaetShould tempest pass on devstack from the gate?19:06
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ayoungroaet, yes..by definition19:07
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roaetSo, just to overly-clarify, if clone up a fresh devstack, stack, and it fails then there is something silly going on?19:07
roaetThough I am using neutron, not sure if that makes a big difference.19:07
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stevemarroaet, probably something silly going on :)19:09
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roaetah. stevemar any recommendations then on how I can 'fix' my https://blueprints.launchpad.net/python-neutronclient/+spec/support-neutronclient-noauth tempest gate failures19:10
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roaetsorry that was wrong:  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/57517/19:11
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roaetI see that it might be a 'bug' but I can't see how to pull in the 'fix' to the bug when tempest just isn't working in the first place.19:13
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dolphmbknudson: resolved your comments in the last patchsets of both https://review.openstack.org/#/c/52456/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/50491/19:15
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russellbttx: the TC graphic needs updating on http://www.openstack.org/foundation/ ... not a huge deal but just happened to notice it19:25
russellbnot sure who to bug about that19:25
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stevemarroaet: did you check to see if the reason why you're failing tempest is known in the list of recheck bugs?19:44
stevemarhttp://status.openstack.org/rechecks/19:45
stevemarroaet: i think you're hitting: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/125016819:47
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1250168 in nova "gate-tempest-devstack-vm-neutron-large-ops is failing" [High,Fix committed]19:47
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Alexei_987Hello. Is there any kind of description/overview of Openstack main message bus? do we have a list of exchanges, message formats and so on?19:50
sc68calAlexei_987: https://github.com/openstack/oslo.messaging19:52
Alexei_987sc68cal: thanks. But it's the library itself and I'19:52
sc68calprobably could use a developer doc if one doesn't exist19:52
Alexei_987I'm interestend in how it's used19:52
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sc68calAlexei_987: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Oslo/Messaging19:53
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Alexei_987sc68cal: thanks19:54
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isdIs there some documentation somewhere that explains what a region is in keystone?19:56
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dolphmisd: there's not really a strict definition19:56
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ayoungisd, it is specifically non-specific!19:56
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ayoungisd, to be clear, it is just a grouping, and left to the implementor what it means19:57
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dolphmisd: see 'region' here-- although this definition should be relaxed to exclude any connection to 'geography' https://github.com/openstack/identity-api/blob/master/openstack-identity-api/v3/src/markdown/identity-api-v3.md#endpoints-v3endpoints19:57
ayoungfor some, a region might be east coast / west coast19:57
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dolphmisd: just read the last sentence in the 'region' attribute definition19:57
ayoungfor others, it might mean two different sets of racks in the same datacenter19:57
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isdayoung, dolphm : thanks, that helps.19:59
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ayoungdolphm, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/59125/ short one.20:04
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dolphmayoung: approved20:05
dolphmmorganfainberg: read the latest comment on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/57577/ (Apsu's) and then https://review.openstack.org/#/c/59528/20:05
ayoungmorganfainberg, how have you been confirming that https://review.openstack.org/#/c/59126/ meets our actual needs?  I almost would like to see it submitted with the Token or some other backend.20:05
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paulproteus|mobiHey mordred , I wish to request a change in pbr. Users with old-ish versions of setuptools are running into a crash at install time, e.g.20:06
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paulproteus|mobihttps://readthedocs.org/builds/savanna/720787/20:06
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paulproteus|mobiLook for AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'get_script_header' there.20:07
paulproteus|mobiohai willingc20:07
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willingchi there paulproteus20:07
paulproteus|mobiI can submit a patch, although I'd have to jump all the OpenStack web gerrit hurdles for it.20:07
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paulproteus|mobiBut I wanted to get a general thumbs up / thumbs down on the right fix. Probably the right fix is to set this value ("header") to '', if easy_install is None.20:08
ayoungdolphm, can we change a default like that?  0.0.0.0 means something different than 127.0.0.120:08
dolphmayoung: exactly20:09
ayoungwill it break people using load balancers or something?20:09
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ApsuNo.20:09
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ayoungApsu, was that "no" responding to me?20:09
Apsuayoung: Yes.20:09
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Apsuayoung: Binding to wildcard (0.0.0.0) simply means that the port is the only component matched for incoming traffic that the binding service will see as a connection.20:10
ayoungApsu, listening on 0.0.0.0 means you get public traffic, 127.0.0.1 means you do not20:10
Apsuayoung: However, if you're load-balancing, you should be binding services to the specific IPs you're load-balancing to.20:10
ayoungApsu, *should*20:10
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Apsuayoung: Correct. However, that's a cheap way to get to that functionality. And I realize it mostly works, so it seems fairly safe20:10
Apsuayoung: But it's also incorrect in several ways, this being one of them.20:11
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ayoung*fairly*  implies someone is going to get burned.20:11
dolphmayoung: you probably also aren't relying on the default configuration and using eventlet20:11
ayoungdolphm, the very people that are relying on the default configuration and using eventlet are the ones that are going to report this bug, I bet.20:11
Apsuayoung: Sure. For instance, not only does wildcard binding run the risk of keystone not being able to restart, it also nearly guarantees that every X number of client connections from the keystone box will fail to connect.20:12
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Apsuayoung: Whether that counts as being "burned" or not is a question of degree.20:12
ayoungApsu, there have been times when we are willing to take a hit on backwards compat in order to crank down a best practice.  I take it you think this is one of those times?20:12
dolphmayoung: its causing gate failures in this case :)20:13
ApsuYes indeed, I do. I believe that binding to localhost/loopback is a very sane default for the expected common use-case (AIO devstack, talking to keystone from the box)20:13
dolphm ^ ++20:13
ApsuA) you can add NATs and not change the binding if you want external traffic to work without touching keystone config20:13
ayoungdolphm, OK, I think so long as we make all that explicit, I can get behind this change20:14
ApsuB) You can just bind to some externally accessible IP20:14
ApsuB is quite easy to do if need be, and A's not difficult, though requires more knowledge.20:14
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dolphmayoung: ++20:15
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dolphmayoung: when you're asking for a warning in the commit message -- the summary of the commit message doesn't count?20:16
ayoungdolphm, is there any reason we do https://review.openstack.org/#/c/59528/1/keystone/common/environment/eventlet_server.py  host=None and then host or 127.0.0.1 instead of defaulting in the parameter list?  I see you are just keeping the old pattern, but seems lame.20:16
dolphmayoung: lol i thought the same. i'll propose a subsequent patch20:17
ayoungdolphm, "THis is going to break for some subset of deployments....this is deliberate"20:17
Apsu"You're welcome."20:17
Apsu^ important addendum20:17
ayoungApsu, absotutely!20:17
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dolphmayoung: ah, alright20:17
Apsu;P20:17
dolphm-claco20:17
mordredpaulproteus|mobi: looking20:17
Apsudolphm: lol20:17
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paulproteus|mobimordred: Sweet, thank you!20:17
paulproteus|mobiI'm experiencing this also with an app called MediaGoblin, which is a user of some package that depends on pbr; the story is that this causes the 'setup.py develop' for mediagoblin to break in the middle in a similar fashion.20:18
insanidadeI'm trying to make ceilometer work in my devstack environment but I have the following error during 'stack.sh' execution ; http://paste.openstack.org/show/54311/20:18
mordredpaulproteus|mobi: well... short story - people should upgrade their setuptools20:18
paulproteus|mobiYou can also see someone running into the problem here: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack/%23openstack.2013-08-18.log (search for mikemar10 there)20:19
mordredpaulproteus|mobi: medium story is that "setup.py develop" should be replaced with "pip install -e"20:19
mordredbut - I can poke and see what can be done20:19
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mordredthe real underlying problem is that old setuptools is just broken, and easy_install is more so :)20:19
paulproteus|mobiYeah, I see what is going on. |:20:19
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paulproteus|mobiI think that the hack I suggested above is worth adding, since it prevents these sorts of very-non-obvious failures.20:20
dolphmApsu: for general use: http://tiny.cc/youre-welcome20:20
mordredpaulproteus|mobi: honestly, replacing setup.py install with 'pip install .' and setup.py develop with 'pip install -e .' gets much futher - oh, you suggested hack...20:20
Apsudolphm: hahaha20:21
morganfainbergayoung, i will have the token backend as a dependant change, if you want to hold off on it.20:21
mordredpaulproteus|mobi: ah - hrm. it's worth a shot20:21
paulproteus|mobiYeah, the hack is to just check if easy_install is None; if so, set "header" to the empty string, since it can't be calculated if easy_install is None.20:21
Apsudolphm: Looks just like him, over my monitor.20:21
morganfainbergayoung, i don't see value in lumping the changeset into the same review -- makes it harder to read and harder to extact.20:21
ayoungmorganfainberg, you can even submit it as WIP, so long as we can see how the main change is going to be used20:21
ayoungnah, two commits good, four legs bad20:21
paulproteus|mobiI can test that hack in the http://vm3.openhatch.org:8080/job/Test_mediagoblin_setup_instructions/7/console that is failing for me (which is how I ran into this issue in the first place; working with mediagoblin to make their dev environment setup be tested periodically)20:21
mordredpaulproteus|mobi: I can't think of any reason off the top of my head why it would break things20:22
paulproteus|mobiI'll do that now, one sec (:20:22
morganfainbergayoung, yep, i'm working on that now.  that was the point of it.  i didnd't expect it ot be approved before seeing the token impl.20:22
morganfainbergdolphm, reading those two commits now20:22
morganfainbergdolphm, ermr eviews20:22
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paulproteus|mobiAlso mordred where is the version number stored, in pbr? It's not in setup.cfg nor in setup.py, but python setup.py sdist seems to be able to find it...20:23
mordredpaulproteus|mobi: git :)20:24
paulproteus|mobi...is it auto-extracted from the git tag and history...?20:24
paulproteus|mobioh my god20:24
mordredit's calculated from git tags20:24
paulproteus|mobiI don't know if that's great or terrible.20:24
paulproteus|mobiOkay, well, good to know (:20:24
mordredit's great. I promise20:24
mordredonce you accept it, you'll learn to love it20:24
mordredit's also stored in the egg-info in sdist tarbals20:24
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mordredso if you have a tarball, you do not need git20:24
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mordredpaulproteus|mobi: how does this look: https://review.openstack.org/59532 ?20:27
ayoungdolphm, morganfainberg is it possible to directly submit a change as a WIP with git review?  It seems like that option has been dropped.20:29
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paulproteus|mobimordred: I wrote http://dpaste.com/1490542/ FWIW20:30
paulproteus|mobiTested my patch at http://vm3.openhatch.org:8080/job/Test_mediagoblin_setup_instructions/10/console20:30
paulproteus|mobiReading yours now20:30
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morganfainbergayoung, not that i am aware of.  you need to click WIP (afaik) once it's uploaded20:30
morganfainbergayoung, and IIRC WIP is not sticky20:31
paulproteus|mobimordred: Your patch looks fine to me.20:31
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ayoungmorganfainberg, I suspect it is because there was a bug that if you submitted a patch as WIP, and it depended on something not WIP, it converted the other patch to a WIP as well....20:31
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mordredpaulproteus|mobi: I just noticed something in your patch though... lemme fix mine20:31
dolphmayoung: Apsu: revised the commit message with an explicit WARNING https://review.openstack.org/#/c/59528/20:32
dolphmayoung: i also refactor those defaults in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/59535/20:32
ayoungdolphm, both look good.20:33
paulproteus|mobimordred: If you're willing to push that to PyPI sometime today, then today's mediagoblin release can have a working build in our Jenkins (:20:33
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paulproteus|mobiIf not, it's no huge deal. I can leave my hacked version in our Jenkins for a while anyway.20:34
mordredpaulproteus|mobi: it'll be a couple of days - there's another bugfix we're trying to land too... I'd leave your hacked version there for now20:34
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paulproteus|mobiCool, that's what I'll do!20:35
paulproteus|mobiThanks oodles. (:20:36
paulproteus|mobiYou were super responsive and receptive to my issue, even though it's an issue that only occurs in an environment you don't super duper support.20:36
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ayoungdolphm, I posted a first hack of the revocations implementation here:  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/55908/  I don't yet have either the API doc nor the client code.  I'd rather get feedback early.20:37
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ayoungI'll gen the API doc once we have a general sense that this is where we need to be.20:37
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morganfainbergayoung, wow lots of files.20:37
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morganfainbergayoung, i'll look at it closer in a short bit.20:38
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morganfainbergayoung, is there any way to (via the API) create a token that has an expiration > default_expiration time?20:41
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ayoungmorganfainberg, lots of files in the revocation patch?  I guess, but really the architecture dictates that:  many are just for splitting out the migrations20:43
ayoungsiple KVS and sql backends, then one file for core, controllers, and routers, same as the other contrib extensions20:43
morganfainbergayoung, yes, it was a comment that it was touching lots of things.  nothing more :)  yep architecture does kind of require it20:43
morganfainbergyou also had to hook into the providers etc.20:44
ayoungmorganfainberg, doesn't touch too much pre-existing, except for the token provider20:44
morganfainbergyep20:44
ayoungyeah, that is the tricky part.  Not done there yet, either20:44
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morganfainbergafict tokens can't ever have a longer expiry than the default through the API.20:44
morganfainberg(i don't count changing something in the SQL backend as a 'valid' lives-longer-than-default-ttl)20:45
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morganfainbergi just don't want to make an assumption that will bite me later.20:46
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mordredpaulproteus|mobi: my pleasure! I want pbr to work everywhere really - so feedback is always welcome!20:47
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paulproteus|mobi(-:20:49
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dolphmdstanek: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/49828/20:52
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dolphmmorganfainberg: ayoung: sort of urgent revert for a patch that landed nov 30 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/59547/21:20
dolphm(it's still running check jobs though)21:21
dolphmthe above revert needs to land before this can land https://review.openstack.org/#/c/50491/21:21
bknudsondolphm: can't fix the decorated decorator?21:22
bknudsonoops21:22
bknudsondeprecated decorator21:22
dolphmbknudson: it would get messy / fragile21:22
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dolphmbknudson: it's not the decorator that's broken here21:22
dolphmbknudson: it's the _method_inspect() that's being removed in the revert patch21:22
ApsuDecorate all the decorators. It makes it more festive.21:22
bknudsonsomeday we'll have real validation of inputs, then we'll stop getting these piecemeal fixes.21:23
dolphmdecorate the deprecated decorators with deprecation decorators?21:23
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dolphmbknudson: ++21:23
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stevemarayoung: mind if i review your revocation patch? it's marked as WIP21:28
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dolphmstevemar: please do21:28
stevemardolphm: if you insist :P21:28
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ayoungstevemar, not at all.  Its posted for just that reason21:32
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ayoungbknudson, I approved the revoke....should I hold on to it?21:35
ayoungrevoke->revert21:35
bknudsonayoung: I agree with the revert and the reasoning for it.21:35
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bknudsonIt's been mentioned a few times that reviews shouldn't be approved until Jenkins verifies.21:36
bknudsonNot sure why.21:36
ayoungbknudson, that is only a performance issue.  In this case it would not have made a difference.  I think21:36
ayoungbknudson, that issue usually comes up right before a deadline when everyone is trying to cram as much as possible down Zuul's throat21:38
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clarkbthe reason for that is you want do not want to approve a failing change, every time that change fails all of the changes behind it in the gate queue will have their tests restarted21:38
clarkbif jenkins comes back with a +1 it should also give it a +2 in the gate21:39
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stevemardolphm: chadwick replied back to your idp protocol markdown: https://gist.github.com/dolph/756702421:46
stevemari'm still for that design21:47
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guitarzanhey folks, quick question, how long have the nova services auto daemonized?22:12
guitarzanbefore if you killed the shell (or screen) they would die nicely22:13
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guitarzan(or maybe not so nicely)22:13
ayoungbknudson, morganfainberg https://review.openstack.org/#/c/49452/  I'd like to close out on that...jdennis has been working on this series for quite a while22:14
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claygso all the gate issues of late have given me a bit of steam to try and "help" with these jenkins "failures" (as opposed to just falling into my usual recheck bug # "I have no idea what the heck even... this one looks related" state of helplessness)23:36
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claygon this change -> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/56310/ my "gate-tempest-devstack-vm-large-ops" failed because of SyntaxError, and "check-grenade-devstack-vm" didn't start nova-networks23:37
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claygI normally make a quick glance at http://status.openstack.org/rechecks/ and then pick the closest pattern match I can find - but neither of these really pop; and I'm not sure that's really helping anyway23:39
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claygoh, nm - found this one!  https://bugs.launchpad.net/devstack/+bug/125707923:42
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1257079 in devstack "SyntaxError occured with the retieval of devstack/files/get-pip.py in gate" [Undecided,New]23:42
clayg^ updated the title to include "SyntaxError"23:42
* clayg totally feels like he's helping now23:42
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