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| Guest11798 | Hi. Have a Query realated to nova | 11:01 |
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| Guest11798 | I have logged in via admin user but want to create an instance for a non-admin tenant , say tenantA. I'm not able to do that. Please help! | 11:02 |
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| Guest11798 | but I'm able to create networks for tenantA, even if I log in via admin | 11:03 |
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| dsantos_ | flaper87: ping | 13:54 |
| flaper87 | dsantos_: pong | 13:54 |
| dsantos_ | flaper87: I saw your comments in my patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/55938/. I agree with you and I'll send another patch | 13:55 |
| dsantos_ | but I would like to know exactly what you meant by using "setdefault" | 13:56 |
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| dsantos_ | is something like what I commented? | 13:56 |
| rahmu | hello, anyone knows where I can find a reference to keystone v3 api analogous to http://docs.openstack.org/api/openstack-identity-service/2.0/content/ ? | 13:56 |
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| flaper87 | dsantos_: ah yeah, I meant http://docs.python.org/2/library/stdtypes.html#dict.setdefault | 13:58 |
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| tristanC | rahmu: I think you are looking for: http://api.openstack.org/api-ref-identity.html | 13:59 |
| dsantos_ | flaper87: but should I just replace the lines where I set extra['user_identity'] by extra.setdefault('user_identity', DEFAULT_VALUE)? | 13:59 |
| rahmu | tristanC: thanks a lot. | 13:59 |
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| flaper87 | dsantos_: it'd be something like: extra.setdefault('user_identity', kwargs.pop('user_identity', None)) | 14:00 |
| flaper87 | if the value is already there it won't be overwritten | 14:00 |
| flaper87 | s/value/key/ | 14:00 |
| flaper87 | if it is not, then it will be set to the value of user_identity in kwargs | 14:00 |
| dsantos_ | flaper87: oh... I understand now. That makes scence x) Sorry | 14:01 |
| flaper87 | if user_identity is not in kwargs then it'll be set to None | 14:01 |
| flaper87 | :D | 14:01 |
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| dsantos_ | flaper87: thanks :) I'm gonna change that and send another patch | 14:01 |
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| dsantos_ | flaper87: after I run the tests I saw that for using "join" instead of a nested function (as I did) I have to cast to string the values (since, for example, self.user is an int value). The solution would be like this http://paste.openstack.org/show/54172/. Maybe it's not so clear... what do you think? Should I send a patch with this? | 14:37 |
| flaper87 | dsantos_: looking | 14:38 |
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| flaper87 | dsantos_: str(self.user) or '-' <- this will send 'None' if self.user is None | 14:39 |
| flaper87 | dsantos_: I wouldn't do that | 14:39 |
| flaper87 | dsantos_: str(self.user or '-') | 14:39 |
| flaper87 | and just in the cases where it's really needed. Don't do it for all attributes | 14:40 |
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| dsantos_ | flaper87: the problem is that I'm not sure about the values... I can, for example, put in the tests "ctxt.domain = 1" and it would break the tests, even if keystone's domain is always a string | 14:42 |
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| dsantos_ | flaper87: there are lots of fake contexts in nova tests, for example... | 14:43 |
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| flaper87 | dsantos_: what about using string formatting then? http://paste.openstack.org/show/54175/ | 14:46 |
| flaper87 | dsantos_: my concern there is that nested functions have an extra cost that we don't want to pay for the context. | 14:47 |
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| dsantos_ | flaper87: I understand... but to be honest, I think string formatting not so clear to read, but maybe is nicer than cast all the values | 14:49 |
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| dsantos_ | flaper87: another question is, how should I indent the code with format? If I do like this http://paste.openstack.org/show/54176/ the last line have 86 columns | 14:55 |
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| dsantos_ | could you help me? I don't know to much about pep8 code style | 14:56 |
| flaper87 | you can assign the formated string to a variable and then use that variable to set the value of that key | 14:56 |
| dsantos_ | flaper87: sure, I just though you wanted put the formatting in directly in the dictionary | 14:57 |
| flaper87 | dsantos_: as long as pep8 is happy, we're all in peace (not necessarily happy) ;) | 14:59 |
| dsantos_ | flaper87: good :) | 14:59 |
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| jd__ | markmc: yes, I'm targeting icehouse-2 for notification-structured | 15:12 |
| markmc | jd__, cool, thanks | 15:12 |
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| jd__ | markmc: I think I tried to set a milestone but there was no milestone like that, did you just create some? | 15:13 |
| markmc | jd__, yeah, I did - just triaging the bps now | 15:15 |
| markmc | jd__, also ... icehouse-1 next week, wtf ? | 15:15 |
| jd__ | markmc: thanks, I'm not totally insane | 15:15 |
| markmc | who is like, I dunno ... evaporating time ... or something | 15:15 |
| jd__ | hehe | 15:15 |
| jd__ | it's a really short timeframe for this one, indeed | 15:16 |
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| flaper87 | markmc: lol @ 'evaporating time' | 15:20 |
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| morganfainberg | ayoung, you said you wanted token backend as the first new kvs implementation? (just 2x checking) | 16:33 |
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| ayoung | morganfainberg, Yeah. I don't know that there is a huge demand for KVS in any of the other backends | 16:56 |
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| ayoung | morganfainberg, I'm wokring on revocations, but that can come second. | 16:56 |
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| morganfainberg | ayoung, well i am hoping to remove the old KVS system completely, so we don't have competing standards. | 16:56 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, even for testing. | 16:56 |
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| morganfainberg | ayoung, but it was more of 2x checking where to put the first bit of effort. well now that i dropped the initial implementation on gerrit | 16:57 |
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| ayoung | looking | 16:58 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, i think the i already see an enhancement needed, the ability to pass the context manager in through set/set_multi, etc so you can do locking outside of the KVS system (more complex usecases) instead of the get_and_set mechanism | 16:59 |
| ayoung | morganfainberg, what does pycrypton imply? | 16:59 |
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| morganfainberg | ayoung, no effect unless you enable it. but you can do HMAC validation of values in the KVS system or encrypt the data. i'm hoping to move this KVS system into oslo eventually and replace auth_token's memcache storage | 17:00 |
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| morganfainberg | ayoung, it wont even load anything pycrypto specific unless you enable the memcache_crypt stuff and try and store data. same as python-memcache not actually being loaded unless you instantiate a memcache backend | 17:01 |
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| morganfainberg | in theory, i could even make it so tests don't _actually_ load memcache library. | 17:02 |
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| ayoung | morganfainberg, so it is the python memcached backend that pulls in the pycrypto dependency? | 17:04 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, no it's the keystoneclient memcache_crypt middleware library. but pycrypto mechanism is loaded dynamically and safely fails unless you ask it to do HMAC or ENCRYPT | 17:05 |
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| morganfainberg | ayoung, https://github.com/openstack/python-keystoneclient/blob/master/keystoneclient/middleware/memcache_crypt.py#L41 | 17:06 |
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| ayoung | morganfainberg, just trying to see why the dogpile change depends on the pycrypto change | 17:06 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, because i added the ability to HMAC (optionally) and ENCRYPT of the values to the KVSBASE | 17:06 |
| ayoung | key_mangler might be the best new method name of the day | 17:06 |
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| ayoung | ah...I see that you link memcached_crypt in base, would have expected that in the memcache extension....OK. | 17:07 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, i think it makes more sense to be a top-level feature, not a memcache-only feature | 17:08 |
| ayoung | yeah | 17:08 |
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| morganfainberg | initially i put it in memcached and realized that was silly. | 17:08 |
| ayoung | morganfainberg, suspect that change is going to make this tricky. We need to deal with pulling keystone_client into the server code, and that has proven tricky in the past due to the keystoneclient tests pulling in multiple versions | 17:09 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, ah. | 17:09 |
| ayoung | morganfainberg, yet another reason to move those tests to tempest | 17:09 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, aye. i could move memcache_crypt into kvs easily, just was thinking of not duplicating code | 17:10 |
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| ayoung | morganfainberg, lets deal with this now. | 17:10 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, as in, just copy memcache_crypt file over | 17:10 |
| ayoung | I have a tempest run on F19 and Ubuntu. | 17:10 |
| ayoung | need to move the tests to tempest and run in each of those. | 17:11 |
| ayoung | Once we have that working, we have a much better structure | 17:11 |
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| morganfainberg | ayoung, true | 17:11 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, but it does beg the question, do we move memcache_crypt into the KVS base? since i am looking to move this into oslo eventually. | 17:11 |
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| ayoung | we need to be able to share code between server and client. Been an issue for a long time, and punting on it is not the kind of Lazyness we wish to embrace | 17:11 |
| ayoung | submit the oslo change now. We can sync up when we get it in there | 17:12 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, i have some more work to do before oslo is ready, some config magic work that justifies it's own patchset. once i get that in (probably next week) I'll roll it up for an oslo patch | 17:13 |
| ayoung | sounds good. | 17:13 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, this changeset lays all the framework stuff for current kvs use (replace token kvs/memcache) and thats about it. and it's already 1000+ lines | 17:14 |
| ayoung | it looks good, just trying to be a good reviewer and catch the problems before the merge | 17:14 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, oh absolutely. | 17:14 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, so, i already need to fix this patchset so you can create a lock external to the KVSBase and use it. | 17:15 |
| ayoung | morganfainberg, any reason the KVSLock is specificallyr for KVS? | 17:15 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, it hooks into the dogpile.cache backend mutexts | 17:15 |
| morganfainberg | mutexes | 17:15 |
| ayoung | mutices? | 17:15 |
| morganfainberg | sure | 17:15 |
| ayoung | muteces? | 17:15 |
| morganfainberg | lol | 17:15 |
| morganfainberg | mutex | 17:15 |
| ayoung | Maybe DogpileLock then? Standalone class, toplevel? | 17:16 |
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| ayoung | and why is there: CONF.kvs.enable_locking: around this? | 17:16 |
| ayoung | that seems a little invasive | 17:16 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, flexability, happy to remove the toggle | 17:17 |
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| ayoung | morganfainberg, it fails silently. THat kindof scares me. | 17:17 |
| ayoung | If there is no real need for the cofig option, I' | 17:18 |
| ayoung | d be happier without it | 17:18 |
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| morganfainberg | ayoung, if dogpile exposed it's locking registry as non-private methods, i would have hooked directly to the region locking, but -- being a good consumer of apis, they are all _ prefixed | 17:18 |
| morganfainberg | and the dogpile locking is specific to regeneration, so i had to re-implement some of the registry (weakref-dict) magic. it is more KVS than dogpile specific. just the backends happen to be able to provide a mutex | 17:18 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, ok, i'll remove the option. | 17:19 |
| ayoung | morganfainberg, what was it that made you think we would need a config option in the first place? | 17:19 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, sometimes people don't care about racy-conditions and it adds overhead. so if you don't care about races, save the overhead | 17:20 |
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| morganfainberg | ayoung, all sets and deletes serialize and lock in the current implementation | 17:20 |
| ayoung | morganfainberg, hmmm....something about that feels wrong...way too course grained. | 17:20 |
| ayoung | seems like it makes more sense as an option on one backend but not another | 17:20 |
| morganfainberg | (read locks are silly in KVS) | 17:21 |
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| morganfainberg | ayoung, i can lift a property up from the backend easily. | 17:21 |
| ayoung | a global "disable" seems dangerous, but per backend locks might be a nice tune...not a need to have, though | 17:21 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, per-backend or per region (toggle)? | 17:21 |
| morganfainberg | backend = memcache, region = instantiation of KVSBase | 17:22 |
| ayoung | morganfainberg, maybe a constructor option. We can deal with config file changes to set that option later | 17:22 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, ok constructor, so region. really easy | 17:22 |
| ayoung | morganfainberg, ah, I was using backend in the way we've been calling it thusfar: identity backend, token backend...maybe we need bettter verbage | 17:23 |
| morganfainberg | well, in context of dogpile ... it's a little overloaded, but i think most people wont use raw dogpile settings and will use the convienence classes (token.backends.memcache for example) | 17:23 |
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| ayoung | so...I like what I am seeing, but I think you are tripping up on some of the issues with Object creation and dependency injection that have tripped up this project for a while. Specifically, the passing in of the region_)name, and then using that to, internally create a region object. When you seeCOntet objects being passed around, in whatever form, it is an indicator. | 17:29 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, i don't disagree with that statement | 17:30 |
| ayoung | What you want is something makes it easy to create a region, register it with "environment" and the get it from environemnt to pass into the KVS | 17:30 |
| ayoung | morganfainberg, my general approach (which I have not hammered on in Keystone) is to do this | 17:31 |
| ayoung | morganfainberg, constructors should document what is needed to create the object | 17:31 |
| ayoung | Ideally, none of the Parameters would be None params....but that is an aside | 17:31 |
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| ayoung | if an object needs another object, it should be clear from the constructor. But objects don't create one-another | 17:32 |
| ayoung | unless they are completely managed entities, like the entries of a dogpile cache, for example | 17:32 |
| ayoung | or sql results, and so on | 17:32 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, right. | 17:32 |
| ayoung | the file like paste should register two things. "factory methods for creating an object" and the base constructors | 17:33 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, i could ... i guess subclass a dogpile region instead. | 17:33 |
| ayoung | factories are only used when creating an object | 17:33 |
| ayoung | no..you are on the right track | 17:33 |
| zul | any idea when the horizon split is going to take place? | 17:33 |
| ayoung | I'd rather region was passed in to the constructor | 17:34 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, hm. so... a function tocreate a kvsbase like dogpile is useing? make_region? | 17:34 |
| ayoung | morganfainberg, End users should not be creating KVS instances directly. They are components of more complex objects. | 17:35 |
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| morganfainberg | ayoung, since knowing what a region is "supposed" to be in this context is pretty complex. | 17:35 |
| ayoung | morganfainberg, I'd love it if it tied in with our existing @provides approach | 17:35 |
| morganfainberg | hm. | 17:35 |
| ayoung | @required "token.region" or something | 17:35 |
| ayoung | requires | 17:36 |
| ayoung | the decorator would not go on anything in common, just on the actual backend thing | 17:36 |
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| morganfainberg | ayoung, that would need some re-working of the decorator, since that requires instantiation almost globally at the moment (even if it's not used)... or it did | 17:37 |
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| morganfainberg | ayoung, but i see where you are going | 17:37 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, hmmm.... trying to figure out how to make that happen. | 17:37 |
| ayoung | morganfainberg, I'm kindof a sicko for this stuff... | 17:38 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, tangentially related | 17:38 |
| ayoung | http://adam.younglogic.com/2008/07/dependency-injection-in-c/ | 17:38 |
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| ayoung | Haven't really thought it through in Python to the point that I can say "its like this " but | 17:39 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, https://bitbucket.org/zzzeek/dogpile.cache/src/4cc0af95d626fa89bfc903a6a454191ae0b7a104/dogpile/cache/backends/memcached.py?at=master#cl-99 what about using something like that for optional import deps? | 17:39 |
| ayoung | http://adam.younglogic.com/2012/03/di-python/ | 17:39 |
| morganfainberg | call ._imports() on instantiation, which makes the import not -required unless you are using something | 17:39 |
| ayoung | wow...typos | 17:40 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, yes the singleton design pattern is preferable | 17:41 |
| ayoung | morganfainberg, optional....needs a different approach. Usually if something is "optional" it means "put it in a list and iterate through the list" then option becomes and empty list.... | 17:41 |
| ayoung | no..singleton is not prefereable...keep reading | 17:41 |
| ayoung | what you want is | 17:42 |
| ayoung | x = components.fetch(context,instance_name) | 17:42 |
| morganfainberg | suffering from food coma still from last night i think :P | 17:42 |
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| ayoung | context contains enough info to: | 17:42 |
| ayoung | 1. Find existing instances | 17:42 |
| ayoung | 2. create a new instance, | 17:42 |
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| ayoung | 3. provide the dependencies to a new instance ala rules 1 and 2 | 17:43 |
| morganfainberg | hmm. | 17:43 |
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| morganfainberg | ok fair enough. | 17:43 |
| ayoung | singleton is hard coding your construction policty | 17:43 |
| ayoung | policy | 17:43 |
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| morganfainberg | singleton-like-design-pattern? | 17:43 |
| ayoung | guiding principal is "split implementation from construction" | 17:43 |
| morganfainberg | but-not-hard-coded. | 17:43 |
| ayoung | morganfainberg, actually, look at the fly-weight | 17:43 |
| ayoung | singleton is kindof the degenerate case of that | 17:44 |
| morganfainberg | ah | 17:44 |
| morganfainberg | yep | 17:44 |
| morganfainberg | see it now | 17:44 |
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| morganfainberg | rolling around in my head how to make KVS conform to that | 17:45 |
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| morganfainberg | ayoung, i think there really is only 2 cases here that aren't already mostly there for your wants... the region+region config (dogpile backend specifics) and the locking. | 17:50 |
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| morganfainberg | ayoung, and some slight massaging of the other constructor arguments to be more in line. then a mechanism to build the KVS object cleanly would still be needed. | 17:51 |
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| ayoung | morganfainberg, understand, this is a general purpose complaint about our code, and not specific to your KVS work. I've been thinking about this for a while, just trying not to derail other efforts with it. Since I don't have a ready made solution, I was content to let it be. | 17:53 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, right. i'm just debating if we can make this conform closer since it's not merged yet ;) | 17:54 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, you know... 1st pass on code vs ready-to-merge | 17:54 |
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| morganfainberg | splitting out configuration from object construction is probably a _really_ good idea in this case. | 17:55 |
| ayoung | morganfainberg, sure, and I wouldn't hold it up yet for this if it is too high a pain point. | 17:55 |
| ayoung | yes | 17:55 |
| morganfainberg | dogpile already uses that pattern... we could easily do that here. | 17:56 |
| morganfainberg | dogpile.cache.region.make_region returns a region object | 17:56 |
| morganfainberg | you need to then call .configure() on it to make it 'useful' | 17:56 |
| morganfainberg | make_kvs_store() which makes the KVSBase object, and the bare-minimum stuff to make it work, then make configuration independant. ok that is easy. and not a lot needs to change to make that work. | 17:58 |
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| morganfainberg | and it moves the _register_backends() out of the object constructor. way better. | 17:58 |
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| morganfainberg | ayoung, ok so last question, KVSLock should be usable outside of the KVSBase object, as a context manager right? and removal of the get_and_set mechanism makes sense in that case. | 18:00 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, perhaps a method on the kvsbase object that allows for accquisiton of a lock? | 18:00 |
| ayoung | BTW KVBSBase -> KeyValueStore | 18:00 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, done. | 18:01 |
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| ayoung | morganfainberg, context manager? | 18:01 |
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| ayoung | um..I think you are ahead of me there. | 18:01 |
| morganfainberg | with <blah> as <thing>: | 18:01 |
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| ayoung | blah all the things! | 18:01 |
| morganfainberg | hehe | 18:01 |
| morganfainberg | yeah the with statement mechanism | 18:02 |
| ayoung | with backend.get_lock as mylock: | 18:02 |
| morganfainberg | so you could do with kvs.lock('key'): <perform actions> and it would auto-unlock | 18:02 |
| morganfainberg | yep | 18:02 |
| ayoung | I like that | 18:02 |
| morganfainberg | i'm already using it on set and delete | 18:02 |
| ayoung | almost makes me not miss constructors | 18:02 |
| ayoung | almost | 18:03 |
| ayoung | ... | 18:03 |
| morganfainberg | but i think it needs to be exposed to the consumer of the kvs store | 18:03 |
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| morganfainberg | so you can perform actions in a single transaction that is guaranteed that the backend-store wont change for (e.g. if we had to build a revocation-list for example... and pull things out of the middle) | 18:04 |
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| morganfainberg | the "get_and_set" method with a callback is sub-optimal and kindof a bad implementation of direct lock consumption | 18:04 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, do we need to support the concept of multple-keys locked in a single context manager? or do you think a single key-lock is sufficient? | 18:05 |
| ayoung | morganfainberg, we could go full "reasearch paper theoretical here" but I think not | 18:06 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, i'm fine with going with a simpler locking system. multiple keys could get... dicey | 18:06 |
| ayoung | I mean, we are the tail end of the library stack. Anything that needs lock ordering to avoid deadlock is probably more transactional than we should be doing in the Keystone service code | 18:06 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, lol true | 18:07 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, this will be an exceptional case forthe most part | 18:07 |
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| morganfainberg | i think locking will be limited use, but worth supporting for those exceptional cases (e.g. stupid token-lists or something similar we can't get rid of yet) | 18:07 |
| ayoung | we could do "multiple read locks, but once someone gets a write lock issue no more read or write locks and wait until all readlocks are gone" and say "all locks mus be accessed in ABC order" and all of that stuff that we learned in Operating System class | 18:08 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, currently i'm not even bothering with read locks. the backends are mostly atomic already | 18:08 |
| ayoung | but we'll unlock that door when we need to pass through it | 18:08 |
| ayoung | Hai! | 18:08 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, lol | 18:08 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, i guess i could step up to a full read/write lock mechanism | 18:09 |
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| morganfainberg | shouldn't be hard to implement *omg did I just type that? locking... "not hard" /facepalm* | 18:09 |
| ayoung | and we can always provide a link to this IRC log via evesdrop | 18:09 |
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| ayoung | this link is self referential: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-dev/%23openstack-dev.2013-11-29.log | 18:10 |
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| morganfainberg | ok, so 4 changes: 1 - constructor and config split. 2 - locking consumable outside of the internal get/set mechanisms, 3 - get_and_set goes away *yay*, 4 - was there another? | 18:11 |
| ayoung | I started out with "Gypsy Punk" on Pandora and now basically end up with any instrumental music. | 18:12 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, lol. thats quite a swing. | 18:12 |
| ayoung | something about underpant gnomes, I tink | 18:12 |
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| morganfainberg | ayoung, so... config method, should i go the same way dogpile does and it's all **kwargs? no positionals | 18:13 |
| ayoung | morganfainberg, not for our classes , no. | 18:13 |
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| ayoung | kwargs are for things that are open ended, but not for things you want to be self documenting | 18:13 |
| morganfainberg | ok, i'll use the **kwargs mechanism simply to pass on config options to the dogpile backend, the rest will be defined | 18:14 |
| morganfainberg | since the dogpile config options change per-backend. | 18:14 |
| ayoung | yes, and keep those calls separate from the calls to other constructors, instead pass the result in to the constructors. Dogpile code should have not dependencies on things we create, right? | 18:14 |
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| morganfainberg | ayoung, no it shouldn't | 18:15 |
| ayoung | cool | 18:15 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, this was what i was thinking http://paste.openstack.org/show/54187/ | 18:17 |
| morganfainberg | where **dogpile_backend_options are passed to the dogpile region configuration method | 18:17 |
| morganfainberg | the other options are the KeyValueStore options | 18:17 |
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| morganfainberg | make_store (yes temp name) would make everything happen that the actual KVS store needed except the configuration stuff. | 18:19 |
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| ayoung | morganfainberg, moke_store is a factory, and would be called in the case where the store does not already exists\ | 18:38 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, ah, class method on KeyValueStore? | 18:38 |
| dsantos_ | dhellmann, flaper87, bnemec: I submitted another patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/55938/. I think now I addressed all your concerns. Please take a look if you can. | 18:38 |
| ayoung | get_store (or fetch_store) would call make_store if the store is not in the context. | 18:38 |
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| ayoung | morganfainberg, maybe, or something. I know How I would do this in other languages, just quite not sure of the pythonic approach | 18:39 |
| ayoung | something involving a cuttlefish, a wheel of Cheese, and the one, true gourd I'm sure. | 18:39 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, if it's truely a factory (not the entry point for all consumption of KeyValueStore) then yes, it should be a factory method on the class | 18:40 |
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| ayoung | morganfainberg, no. That couples construction with implementation, what I was suggesting we split up | 18:40 |
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| morganfainberg | ayoung, oh, you want a registry of KeyValueStores we maintain. | 18:41 |
| morganfainberg | so a given name is instantiated once | 18:41 |
| ayoung | morganfainberg, yeah | 18:41 |
| morganfainberg | and you can request it at any point | 18:41 |
| morganfainberg | *derp* like i said, still some food coma effects i think | 18:41 |
| morganfainberg | my brain is slowly coming back to as close to -sane- as it ever is | 18:42 |
| ayoung | the @provides/@requires code actually does that somewhat OK. Just that when we use it, we tend to tag the implementation as opposed to the component registration...I need to work up an example at some point. | 18:42 |
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| morganfainberg | ayoung, sure. i'll keep it isolated to the KVS core file at the moment | 18:43 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, we can shuffle it around to be in the decorator later on if it makes sense | 18:44 |
| ayoung | sounds good. I am going to try and get something done on revocations, checking off the net to focus | 18:44 |
| morganfainberg | or implement something similar if the current @dep one doesn't work | 18:44 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, cool. | 18:44 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, see ya later | 18:44 |
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