Tuesday, 2013-11-12

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ekarlsoBobBall: you alive ?^00:29
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ayoungsimo, the one thing from the conference that you might have been interested in was that we are going to go ahead and split KDS out from the Keystone server.  It will still be under the Keystone program, so the same reviewers will be looking at it, but we will have it running in its own HTTP server.  I need to gather up all of the details.  jamie is going to take this and run with it, but he is off for the rest of the week00:58
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bknudsonI think keystone is f'd somehow.01:15
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bknudsonwhen I update a new patch set Jenkins -1 with can't merge...01:15
bknudsonhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/54647/01:16
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mriedembknudson: try openstack-infra01:16
ekarlsois there a list of etherpads from the summit ?01:17
mikalYeah, they're on the wiki01:17
mikalSearch for "icehouse etherpads"01:17
bknudsonekarlso: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Summit/Icehouse/Etherpads01:17
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ayoungbknudson, you might want to take care with what you call your local branch.  It shows up in code review01:29
bknudsonayoung: assignment is too much to type01:30
ayoungbknudson, assgn01:30
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ayoungbknudson, trying to decide if no is better than half in this case.01:31
ayoungbknudson, so yeah, I had no problem doing a rebase on origin/master.  Looks like the repo is somehow torqued01:33
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bknudsonayoung: I think zuul is out of file descriptors.01:33
ayoungbknudson, quick, call the Keymaster01:33
bknudsonsomebody crossed the streams.01:34
ayoungThat was me.  I did that.01:34
ayoungBut its ok, the table broke its fall.01:34
ayoungbknudson, that is a  pretty patch. I like that patch.01:35
ayoung+45, almost all testing, -37 almost all in the main tree01:35
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bknudsonayoung: henrynash mentioned that this was the plan going forward so I wanted to look at updating.01:35
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ayoungbknudson, you are right on.  We still need to solve something with assignments, though01:36
ayoungWe need to map userids back to IdPs01:36
ayoungand we have no way to do that today01:36
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ayoungbut this is a good step, and will help out a lot01:36
bknudsonayoung: we had this problem with the multi-domains... couldn't figure out what domain a user is in.01:37
ayoungbknudson, yep01:37
ayoungonly now please to call them IdPs01:37
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morganfainbergbknudson, nice branch name :P01:47
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odenhello. i will try to add systemd support in the upstream mariadb source. but, what how to make this software collection safe?12:32
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odenisl for example %{_unitdir} untampered?12:33
odenis for example %{_unitdir} untampered?12:33
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dacharyI've sent a CLA signature over a week ago. Is it expected to take about two weeks ? I don't mind, just curious ;-)15:05
mordreddachary: when you say "sent a CLA signature" - what do you mean?15:07
mordreddachary: like a corporate one?15:07
dacharyno, an individual one15:07
mordredthose are instant15:07
dacharyah15:07
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dacharyI guess the PDF is somewhere in my spam box then ;-)15:07
mordredwhat PDF?15:08
mordreddachary: if you go to: https://review.openstack.org/#/settings/agreements15:08
mordreddo you see "VerifiedICLAOpenStack Individual Contributor License Agreement"15:08
mordredin the table?15:08
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dacharyyes :-)15:11
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mordredgreat. then you're all good15:13
mordredthere is no PDF15:13
mordredthere is also no spook15:13
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claytonc_dansmith: hey dan, who was going to be involved in moving nova/objects to oslo?  anyone so far?17:07
dansmithclaytonc_: russellb is the only one who has expressed interest thus far17:07
claytonc_k was trying to figure out how to isolate the exceptions without pure copy+paste17:08
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dansmithclaytonc_: okay, not sure what you mean, but let me finish something and then we can discuss17:14
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dansmithclaytonc_: okay, done17:25
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claytonc_dansmith: sorry, so nova/objects/base depends on nova/exceptions.  was trying to figure out how that's going to be commonized17:33
claytonc_the exceptions that are thrown descend from novaexception17:33
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dansmithclaytonc_: oh, only by convention, so I'd expect to just handle that however other things in oslo are handled17:37
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claytonc_dansmith: k17:39
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ChicagoWhere would someone go to register a new OS project?17:46
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morganfainbergmornin.17:58
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gyeemorganfainberg, keystone meeting?17:59
morganfainberggyee, thats why i'm here17:59
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morganfainberggyee, well, *points to other channel*18:00
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morganfainberggyee, wonder if anyone is going to be an hour late (daylight -> standard time)18:00
gyeeheh18:00
gyeewe'll see18:01
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morganfainberggyee, hows the time readjust going?18:01
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morganfainbergre-adjust that is.18:01
gyeesleepy, but alright18:01
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morganfainbergi could def. go for another.... 3-4 hours sleep today ;)18:02
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tellesnobregais anyone having any problems when stalling devstack latelly, i cant start instances and when i configure keytone api v3 the cli cant find to services18:13
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tellesnobregaanyone??18:24
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tellesnobregamorganfainberg: ping18:32
tellesnobregaanyone from nova can give a hand??18:32
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openflywhat's the issue?18:33
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morganfainbergtellesnobrega, in a meeting at the moment18:37
tellesnobregamorganfainberg: sure, thanks.18:37
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russellbclaytonc_: dansmith and in oslo, we try to avoid an across the world base exception.  basically, it would just be exceptions localized to the objects code18:50
russellbclaytonc_: if you want to work on it, that's cool with me.  i hadn't started, and i know you have a need to push it asap18:50
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ayoungdolphm_food, we sortof had the Keystone meeting.  No conf record, and only a handful of us for the first 30 minutes19:04
claytonc_russellb: i'm just trying to tease it apart now - will at least have some sort of simpler base case19:04
russellbcool19:05
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ayoungmorganfainberg, for Keystone, should it now just be "tox" from the root dir, or are there some majik parameters I should be passing?  Mine seems to hang indefiniately19:07
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morganfainbergayoung, it takes a while to build the venv the first time19:08
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ayoungmorganfainberg, is it a silent build, or should I see output?  I thought i went through that before....let me try wiping the .tox dir19:08
morganfainbergi always use explicit versions (e.g. tox -epy27)19:08
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morganfainbergayoung, i know things changed since we moved to testr.  dstanek might have some more insight19:09
bknudsonmine says this when I run: py27 develop-inst-nodeps: /opt/stack/keystone19:09
bknudsonthen py27 runtests: commands[0] | python setup.py testr --testr-args=19:10
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morganfainbergbknudson, that looks like mine iirc19:10
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gyeemorganfainberg, looks like tox is less chatty19:10
dolphm_food\o/19:11
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gyeedolphm, daylight saving screw up most of us :)19:11
dolphmi kinda figured :)19:11
dolphmeither that, or people would be MIA anyway19:11
gyeehell I am still going by HK timezone19:12
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dolphmi had another 27 hour day on my way home, so no jet lag for me :D19:12
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ayoungcan we just consoidate all of the Volume failures into one bug for the Zuul  rechecks?  http://logs.openstack.org/32/52732/4/gate/gate-tempest-devstack-vm-neutron/614beca/console.html19:12
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ayoungThat looks alike a slightly different bug from the ones in the list already, but really, really similar19:13
luisgdhellmann, when u get a chance if ur not too jet lagged :)19:13
luisghttps://etherpad.openstack.org/p/i18nmessages19:13
luisgthe list of issue at the bottom19:13
ayoung2013-11-12 18:54:57.572 | BadRequest: Invalid volume: Volume status must be available or error, but current status is: in-use (HTTP 400) (Request-ID: req-47d9a409-da7d-4805-b653-7f34b47421a4)19:14
morganfainbergayoung, do we have a BP for the keystoneclient changes (client + auth + etc) that jaimie is working on?19:14
ayoungmorganfainberg, yes19:14
morganfainbergayoung, do you know which one covers that?  i see the etherpad.19:14
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ayounghartsocks, ask in here19:14
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ayounghttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/python-keystoneclient/+spec/auth-plugins19:14
morganfainbergayoung, thanks19:15
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claytoncrussellb: what's a common'y name for an Object that is in openstack.common - it's not a NovaObject, it's a *Object or Model or DomainObject?19:35
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russellbOsloObject ?19:36
russellbdunno19:36
claytoncit's an object that forms the basis for your domain model, or your object abstraction, or your conceptual core persistence hierarchy19:36
dimsclaytonc, separating nova/objects into oslo.objects(?) ?19:36
claytoncdims: yeah was trying to take a start at it19:36
dimsclaytonc, very cool19:37
russellbdansmith: ^ thoughts?19:37
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claytoncmaybe everyone just subclasses NovaObject(OsloObject)19:38
claytoncoslo feels a bit... something19:38
dimsrussellb, claytonc - my thesaurus says doohickey is a synonym of object :)19:39
claytonc:)19:39
dansmithOpenStackObject?19:39
dansmithOsloObject is okay with me, FWIW19:39
dstanekayoung: are you still having tox issues?19:40
dhellmannluisg: I have a bunch of meetings this afternoon, but will take a look -- still catching up from last week19:40
dansmiththe later has the benefit of being shortened to OO, which is really what we're trying to go for here.. OOness in our data model :)19:40
dimsOSObject?19:40
luisgdhellmann, y understand, thx!19:40
dansmithI don't like acronyms embedded in CamelCase names, personally19:41
dhellmannclaytonc, dims, russellb : as part of proposing that objects code to oslo, I'd like to have some understanding of why none of the existing libraries that do something similar was suitable19:41
claytoncdhellmann: existing python libraries that provide persistence abstraction19:42
claytonc?19:42
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dhellmannclaytonc: yes19:42
dansmithdhellmann: I feel like we've been over that a _lot_ :)19:42
dhellmanndansmith: I guess I missed those conversations.19:42
dhellmanndansmith: is there a blueprint I can read?19:42
dansmithdhellmann: I thought markmc yanked you into the original object reviews, actually.. I'm quite sure you reviewed at least a few of those..19:43
dhellmanndansmith: I did some of the code reviews, but by that time it was a foregone conclusion that it was going into nova19:44
dhellmannat the havana summit I suggested looking at other libraries, so I assume they were rejected (or no one did that), but I never saw any conclusions19:44
dansmithdhellmann: okay, well, it's not really a persistence thing, it's mostly about making our RPC more OO19:44
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dansmithin fact, the object layer specifies nothing about how they're persisted19:45
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dhellmannI forget which other project it was, but I think someone else was looking at (de)serialization at the icehouse summit19:45
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dansmithdhellmann: this is pretty old, but I think the justification bits are still relevant: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ObjectProposal19:47
dansmithdevananda: there was someone in the nova objects session that was really keen on this going into oslo, but I don't remember who that was19:48
dansmithdevananda: an ironic person currently doing manual syncs, I think19:49
dhellmanndansmith: I understand the justification for the feature. I don't understand why we started from scratch on the implementation.19:49
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dhellmanndansmith: but maybe this is more about making rpc transparent than about serialization?19:50
dansmithdhellmann: okay, I don't think anyone else came up with anything that does what this does19:50
dhellmanndansmith: https://pypi.python.org/pypi/Pyro19:50
dhellmanndansmith: same thing, different transport19:51
dhellmanndansmith: the (de)serialization stuff is very much like what's in WSME, and could be pulled out and reused19:51
dansmithdhellmann: so Pyro is a typical remote object thing where the proxy object just remotes calls to the server, right?19:51
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dhellmannit includes code transport, and dynamic creation of remote proxies for individual objects19:52
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dhellmannit uses pickle, so we probably wouldn't want it, but the point is this *isn't* brand  new work, and so what other libraries were actually examined before doing something from the ground up?19:53
dansmithdhellmann: the client proxy doesn't know anything about the schema of the object, and just remotes myobject.foo() to the server blindly, right?19:53
dhellmanndansmith: I don't know the answer to that.19:53
dansmithdhellmann: okay, because if so, that's the opposite of what we wanted :)19:54
dhellmannI can see that as a useful feature. Was anything done to see if it could be upstreamed?19:54
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claytoncdhellmann: does your concern cover the existing oslo.rpc work as well?19:55
dansmithupstreamed where, into pyro?19:55
dansmithclaytonc: we've already built support for these objects into oslo.rpc19:55
dhellmanndansmith: What I'm trying to ask is whether any other libraries were even examined, and if so, which, and why were they rejected?19:55
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dansmithdhellmann: if you're looking for a document that lists the things that were considered, the findings, and a charter for the new work, then no19:56
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claytoncdansmith: was asking the opposite direction - does dhellmann assume oslo.rpc as a given, or should also be considered in the context of things that should be used/upstreamed19:56
dhellmanndansmith: that is the sort of thing I was hoping to find, yes19:56
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dansmithdhellmann: if you're asking if lots of people suggested existing projects to solve the problem with each having some attribute that made it not what we wanted, then yes, I think that happened :)19:56
dhellmannclaytonc: does this new work depend on oslo.messaging?19:56
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dhellmanndansmith: what I was hoping to find was the list of those things written down with the reasoning behind not adopting and improving one, yes :-/19:57
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dhellmanndansmith: I have a meeting in a couple of minutes, so we'll have to continue this later19:57
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hartsocksmorganfainberg: ping19:58
dansmithdhellmann: I feel like you might be overestimating what we've done thus far, but..sure19:58
claytoncyeah as far as i can see i see a wrapper around rpc hydration and a change tracking method19:58
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claytoncand a very minimal field/type specification19:58
dhellmanndansmith: if we're going to try to have the oslo team take ownership of something, then I want to make sure that thing really needs to exist at all19:58
dansmithdhellmann: I understand19:58
dhellmanncool19:58
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dansmithclaytonc: pretty much, barring some details of how we go about doing the magic remoting, which is a relatively nova-specific thing, but that we kinda expect other similar projects to adopt as well (although nothing requires it)19:59
claytoncyeah the version schema mismatch and conversion is the highlight that differentiates it to me from existing solutions like domainmodel, not that those might not have relevance here.  i'm happy to do some legwork as well to assist where i can20:00
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ayoungdstanek, I'm having new tox issues20:08
ayoungdstanek, I'm running it again now.  It takes a long time to fai;20:08
ayoungThis seems to be the cause of it OSError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/opt/stack/keystone/.tox/py27/build/pbr'20:09
devanandadansmith: yes. objects should go into oslo. i talked with markmc about this, too, i believe20:09
cp16netopenstack devs can we get this fix merged plz? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/55992/20:09
devanandadansmith: ironic pulled the object code from nova very early on (probably 5 reviews in), then synced once (probably more than 3 months ago). i haven't tracked the changes since, but that's on our list of things to do this cycle20:10
dolphmcp16net: at least mention the name of the project (devstack) when looking for reviews :)20:10
dstanekayoung: it would appear that it didn't install the requirements20:10
cp16netdoh...20:10
dolphmcp16net: more likely to attract useful attention20:10
cp16netyeah good point.20:10
dansmithdevananda: okay, do you know who might've attended the nova meeting on the subject? they volunteered a little help I think, but I didn't take note of who that was :/20:10
cp16netdevstack core https://review.openstack.org/#/c/55992/20:10
ayoungdstanek, so I wiped the .tox directory and re ran the command...its still in the green20:10
devanandadansmith: no. my guess would be romcheg or lucasagomez20:11
dansmithokay20:11
ayoungdstanek, assuming that it was a half-built .tox, I should be OK to run.20:11
ayoungI want to update run_test.sh to do tox.  I undertand deprecating the user of nose, but lets leave run_tests.sh in place to replace it20:11
dstanekayoung: you can pass -v to tox to hopefully get more output20:12
ayoungdstanek, yep...figured that out20:12
ayoungdstanek, it looks like it got past the problem from the fist run.20:12
ayoungON that run the last line executed was :20:13
ayoung  /opt/stack/keystone$ /opt/stack/keystone/.tox/py27/bin/pip install -U -r/opt/stack/keystone/requirements.txt -r/opt/stack/keystone/test-requirements.txt >/opt/stack/keystone/.tox/py27/log/py27-1.log20:13
ayoungand then it went red with error reporting20:13
dstanekayoung: i really like the use of tox from the link i sent you yesterday20:13
dstanekanything useful in the log?20:13
ayoungon the current run I see it is doing all of the ssh key generation20:13
ayoungso I think I'm OK.20:13
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ayoungdstanek, what link was that?20:14
ayoung^%$&&*%(()20:14
ayounghit ctrl-c20:14
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dstanekayoung: to one of the clients that use tox from run_tests.sh20:15
ayoungI want to throttle whomever decided that terminal "cut"  should be shift ctrl C...miss that shift key and kill the process20:15
ayoungdstanek, ah, yes20:15
ayoungdstanek, going to port that over once I have a successful run from the command line20:16
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morganfainberghartsocks, pong20:18
hartsocksmorganfainberg: hey, I had an idea and someone suggested I run it by you.20:18
morganfainberghartsocks, sure thing20:18
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hartsocksmorganfainberg: so, vmware's vCenter… it has it's own SAML tokens...20:19
morganfainberghartsocks, ok20:19
hartsocksmorganfainberg: … and it can be configured to take username/password from an LDAP source.20:19
morganfainberghartsocks, sure20:20
hartsocksmorganfainberg: so my idea was… do some kind of driver that chains Keystone auth with vCenter auth...20:20
morganfainberghartsocks, i've seen it configured like that before.20:20
hartsocks… then stuff the SAML token from vCenter into the context so drivers can pull out the token later.20:20
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morganfainbergwith the new Federation plans, vCenter could be the IdP keystone uses (or an IdP)20:20
hartsocksmorganfainberg: so… good idea or nutty?20:20
morganfainberghartsocks, not so nutty at all :)  totally in line with the plans for supporting federation20:21
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ayounghartsocks, it will be just another SAML provider20:21
hartsocksmorganfainberg: so, how would I contribute/help move that along?20:21
ayoungnothing vCenter specific about it20:21
hartsocksyeah. good.20:21
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ayounghartsocks, keep your eyes on the Federation reviews20:21
dimshartsocks, here were are basically saying that existing users of vCenter have a way to reuse their stuff with openstack?20:21
hartsockspretty much.20:22
morganfainberghartsocks, https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/icehouse-federation this is the etherpad that came from the summit.20:22
hartsocksThe core problem we had was...20:22
hartsockssomeone complained we were storing plain-text username and password in config files...20:22
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morganfainberghartsocks, but the best thing you can do is watch for federation reviews and help us get it right :)20:22
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hartsocks… as I thought about this I thought… that's a symptom of a bigger identity management problem.20:22
dimshartsocks, sounds good +120:22
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hartsocksmorganfainberg: I wanted to ask around before I launched into just doing something.20:24
ayounghartsocks, we are also looking at X509 authentication.  gyee specifically is looking in to that.  Ideally, passwords would be unnecessary20:24
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hartsocksmorganfainberg: also, I'd like to do a practical setup with Keystone + vCenter SSO early on so I can see if that will work, how the drivers might need to change, and so on.20:24
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hartsocksayoung: awesome! That's the right way to do that.20:24
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morganfainbergayoung and gyee  are working towards more awesomeness in keystone like that20:25
ayounghartsocks, is there anything useful in the SAML produced by vCenter, or is it basically authentication data?  Do people actually put, say, group data in there?20:26
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hartsocksayoung: off the top of my head I don't recall. vCenter does have authentication and authorization mechanisms though.20:26
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hartsocksayoung: the group data is available somewhere.20:27
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ayounghartsocks, take a look when you get the chance.  I'd love to have som real world to go along with all this theoretical20:28
gyeeayoung, I think vCenter uses X.50920:28
ayounggyee, Im guessing that, from what hartsocks is saying you are wrong20:29
ayounghttp://www.barrypopik.com/index.php/new_york_city/entry/in_theory_there_is_no_difference_between_theory_and_practice_but_in_practic/20:29
dolphmhartsocks: o/20:29
dolphmreading back20:29
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hartsocksdolphm: ? … is googling things.20:30
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hartsocksyeah, my chief concern is practical, I want to not need to config the driver with credentials.20:30
hartsocksI figured if nobody was working on that, it would be a good addition to OpenStack in general.20:31
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dolphmayoung: hartsocks: with the mapping step, keystone itself wouldn't care about the contents of the saml doc, it's up to the mapping config to handle it20:32
dolphmhartsocks: saml v2.0? :)20:32
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morganfainbergayoung, should the LP bug for python-memcache be set to20:32
dolphmhartsocks: as morganfainberg suggested, definitely catch up on the etherpad and the open reviews moving in that direction to make sure we're making the right decisions to support vcenter as an idp20:33
morganfainberg"wont fix" since it's an external dep?20:33
ayoungdolphm, my guess is that SAML is going to be provided by a company with the minimal set of information, meaning no real group data.  THat means that we wil have to do direct assignments from users into role/proejcts, or we will need a grouping mechanism for assignments.  I'm trying to test that Hypothesis with real data.20:33
morganfainbergnot really .. something we "can"/"will" fix for stable/havana20:33
hartsocksdocs on vCenter SSO for those that care: http://pubs.vmware.com/vsphere-51/index.jsp?topic=%2Fcom.vmware.ssosdk.pg.doc%2Fsso_pg_usage.3.2.html … best practice has been "use SSO" since v5.1 (current version is v5.5)20:34
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ayoungmorganfainberg, probably does not make sense to report distriburtion specific issues in Launchpad, but in this case, it helps to advertise the problem, and to let people know a solution is coming.  We need a "will fix downstream"  value..but how about just "in progress"20:35
morganfainbergsounds good.20:35
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morganfainbergayoung, i assigned the bug to you, set it to low so when bz is updated you can close it... or poke me.20:36
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morganfainbergor whatever.20:36
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ayoungmorganfainberg, thanks.  I'm tracking it20:36
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ayoungdolphm, even in the cloud JSON sample we have "role:admin" for is admin.  We really need to provide a better example, where admin is defined by the admin role on the default domain, or on the admin project or something20:43
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ayoungdstanek, it seems to be regenerating all of the certificates each time.  Is there some way I can shortcircuit the tox run if everything is all set up21:03
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dstanekayoung: what certs?21:04
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ayoungdstanek, the PKI certs for the test run21:04
ayoungthis ie Keystone21:05
dstanekayoung: are you talking about all the openssl output?21:05
ayoungdstanek, actualy, the problem might be that the certs provide output even when everything else is quiet21:05
ayoungI suspect the problem is that the tests are slow21:05
ayoungwhen I ran them before I would mount a ramdisk for the databases21:05
dstanekayoung: yeah :-)  very slow21:05
ayoungdstanek, I've pulled over the swift client's version of run tests21:06
ayoungI'm a throw the -v in there21:06
dstanekonce all of my testing reviews get in they will be slightly faster and much leaner21:06
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dstanekalthough the v2/v3 tests are what causes the spike in memory, but I haven't put in the time to figure out why21:07
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dstanekayoung: there is a review to silent the openssl output https://review.openstack.org/#/c/51610/21:08
ayoungdstanek, we want to swap out the databases.  We are currently runnign migrations against sqlite, which is dumb, and we want to run mysql (or something like drizzle) and Postgresql by deafult, but they are too slow.  I toyed with the idea of mounting a ramdisk for them...21:08
dstanekayoung: do migrations really need to be run with a normal full dev test run?21:09
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dstanekin gerrit yes, but do i need to run them when i'm developing?21:10
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ayoungdstanek, only if you are developing migrations.  In general, you should not need to run unit tets for code that you are not touching.  But the migrations should be unit tested.21:11
ayoungdstanek, so, I would say "yes, when running a full unit test run, run migrations"21:12
annegentlettx: sorry, timezone bit me this week for tc meeting21:12
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dstanekayoung: i am in the habit of running 'tox -e py27,pep8' before i push a review because our test are not well isolated21:13
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dstanekbefore i think that i would have a change in a file and corresponding tests only to find i broke other tests after pushing to gerrit21:13
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ttxannegentle: heh21:14
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* annegentle reads and reads to catch up21:14
annegentlettx: so the ical feed, it's in my Google calendar, shouldn't it not do the daylight savings?21:15
annegentlettx: should I re-import it?21:15
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annegentle(sorry it's not really your job to make my calendar work right) :)21:15
ttxannegentle: the google calendar shows the right time for me21:15
annegentlettx: Augh. Yes. So it does. Eye check!21:15
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bknudsondolphm: I don't know if we're taking security fixes to stable/folsom: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/56100/21:34
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dolphmbknudson: i think stable/folsom saw it's last point release, but i would also expect the branch to be dropped from git..21:37
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bknudsondolphm: ttx probably would have asked for a fix to folsom if he thought one was needed21:40
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dolphmbknudson: we actually had a brief conversation at the summit about not bothering with point releases, and just maintaining the stable branches without deadlines21:42
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bknudsondolphm: separately for each project?21:44
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dolphmbknudson: ? i mean across openstack21:45
dolphmbknudson: no more 2013.2.x21:45
dolphmbknudson: i.e. there would be a 2013.2 tag and stable/havana branch21:45
dolphmbknudson: but no tags on that branch21:45
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dolphmbknudson: anyway, it looks like folsom hasn't had a patch in 7 months?21:46
dolphmbknudson: i swear i've done some since then, but maybe just for packagers21:46
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bknudsondolphm: last one in stable/folsom is Sep 12 "Revoke user tokens when disabling/delete a tenant"21:47
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dolphmbknudson: that makes more sense! i don't know what i was looking at..21:48
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pabelangerAfternoon, have a question regarding cookiecutter. I have a review up in horizon to address some License header issues, for my patch I simply imported the header from cookiecutter.  However, one of the horizon developers is stating '# -*- coding: utf-8 -*-' comment isn't actually needed.  This is the case?21:49
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pabelangerI couldn't see anything in Openstack hacking that talks to the format of the header21:49
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pabelangerThis is what I imported: https://github.com/openstack-dev/cookiecutter/blob/master/%7B%7Bcookiecutter.repo_name%7D%7D/%7B%7Bcookiecutter.module_name%7D%7D/__init__.py#L121:50
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dolphmpabelanger: link to the review?21:50
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pabelangerdolphm, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/55307/21:50
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morganfainbergretr0h, ping22:22
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amandapI was pointed this way for Keystone clarification, I'm getting conflicting information about the Services Catalog that is returned during authentication.22:34
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morganfainbergamandap, what is the conflicting information you're getting?  maybe we can help clarify22:38
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amandapmorganfainberg: That would be great. I have one person saying that when a user authenticates the token and full catalo is returned. I have another person saying that the token and only the catalog entries for services the user can access will be returned. The diagram on http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/openstack-compute/install/yum/content/keystone-concepts.html makes it seem like both happen with the specific services list happening in22:53
amandap step 2. But I can't read the diagram as has text on text.22:53
morganfainbergamandap, wow that is bad rendering of that doc.22:53
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amandapmorganfainberg: It really is and no text explaining it to fall back to. :-/22:54
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amandapmorganfainberg: When I did a test I got the full catalog back. Is there a time/way that Keystone would return a list of just the services the user has access to?22:57
morganfainbergamandap, it looks like (unless you have endpoint filtering enabled, it is an extension) that the code is indicating the whole catalog is returned22:57
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morganfainbergamandap, i don't think keystone has any way of knowing if a user has "22:59
morganfainbergaccess" to a service22:59
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morganfainbergkeystone doesn't make the policy decisions for non-keystone services.23:00
lifelesskeystone does put users in roles though23:00
morganfainberglifeless, yes.23:00
lifelessso the project local policy.json can leverage keystone23:00
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morganfainberglifeless, correct, the endpoint/service can leverage the information from keystone's roles, just keystone wont know if a given user has access to that service.23:01
amandapmorganfainberg: That's what I thought as well, which is why I leaning towards it but then the diagram confused me.23:01
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rudraruggecan someone help me with changing the topic for a review23:07
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clarkbrudrarugge: yes23:08
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rudraruggegreat23:08
clarkbrudrarugge: by default git review uses the branch you are on to set the topic, or if you have bug details in the commit message it uses that23:09
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rudraruggei used the following branch bp/aws-vpc-support23:10
clarkbrudrarugge: so if you want to change the topic you can just change the local branch you are working on then push to gerrit again23:10
rudraruggebut it always shows up as bp/s23:10
rudraruggehttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/40071/23:10
clarkbhmm, we may need to override the topic then23:10
rudraruggei tried that a few times23:10
amandapmorganfainberg: Do you know by chance, when that diagram says "Keystone provides Alice her list of Services" what criteria does it use to determine "her list"?23:10
clarkbrudrarugge: you tried with `git review -t 'some-topic-here'` ?23:11
rudraruggegit status shows # On branch bp/aws-vpc-support23:11
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rudraruggelet me try that23:11
clarkbthere may be a bug in the auto topic setting, but using -t should override any brokeness23:11
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clarkbout of curiousity what version of git review are you using? `git review --version`23:12
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rudrarugge1.2323:14
rudraruggeclarkb: i am using 1.2323:14
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clarkbrudrarugge: cool thanks (that is new enough that if there is a bug it is probably a new one)23:14
rudraruggeclarkb: since there are no changes the review is being rejected23:14
rudraruggeanyway to force it?23:15
clarkbrudrarugge: you can make a change to the commit message23:15
rudraruggei am looking to change only the topic23:15
rudraruggeok23:15
clarkbrudrarugge: you have to update the review to change the topic it looks like23:15
clarkband that requires a new sha123:15
rudraruggethanks clarkb - everything worked. topic is updated.23:16
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dstanekmorganfainberg: thanks for taking a look at appserver review - i was going to ping you about it later today23:35
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morganfainbergdstanek, the other one needs a rebase now.23:35
morganfainbergdstanek, should be just hitting the rebase button but... we'll seeeeeeee23:36
morganfainberg:P23:36
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gyeedolphm, morganfainberg, you guys know if the icehouse release schedule available?23:38
morganfainberggyee, iirc ttx hasn't published it yet23:38
gyeewhen are we expecting it?23:38
morganfainberggyee, onlye thing i've seen was http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2013-November/018713.html23:39
morganfainbergso my guess is next week23:40
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dolphmgyee: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/IcehouseReleaseSchedule23:46
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