Friday, 2013-10-11

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dcahilltpodowd: You probably found an answer by now, but you could maybe use Signed-off-by (see https://gerrit-review.googlesource.com/Documentation/user-signedoffby.html)- "indicates that the signer was involved in the development of the patch, or that he/she was in the patch’s delivery path". Gerrit should handle multiple patches fine, but I imagine reviewers wouldn't want to accept patch A for lack of unit tests.00:53
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tpodowddcahill: Decided to merge the patches into one as one author as you suggested and give up on it as it was taking time. I was thinking I could submit another review as a dependent but it wasn't worth the hassle to me.01:08
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tpodowddcahill: Thanks. btw. you in Tokyo?01:08
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dcahilltpodowd: Yep, I'm in Tokyo! You? The surname looks Irish. :)01:09
tpodowddcahill: yeah. Irish and in Shibuya.01:09
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dcahilltpodowd: Cool! Let me PM you, maybe start an "Irish OpenStackers in Tokyo" group. ;)01:16
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Al098How in openstackcomputeshell class does the arguments translates into some functions?02:48
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Al098This is in python-novaclient02:48
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Al098Hi Colin02:49
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Al098Any idea?02:49
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fandikurnia01can u hi all02:51
fandikurnia01i already install ceilometer, but not found command ceilometer cli02:52
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clarkbAl098: _find_actions seems to set that up02:58
clarkbfandikurnia01: are you looking for python-ceilometer client?02:58
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fandikurnia01yups .. it's done03:04
fandikurnia01i missing python-ceilometer03:04
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mordreddcahill, tpodowd: that sounds like the best group ever03:23
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morganfainbergdstanek, ping (not sure if you're here, it's a bit late)04:57
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tpodowdmordred, dcahill: Yes - probably small focused group although maybe focusing on pints.05:00
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dcahillmordred: Since you're in this chatroom, I guess you fit at least one of the membership criteria - you may have to work on the others. :)05:02
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warrenanyone have jbryce's e-mail address?07:50
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zyluowarren, jonathan@openstack.org08:20
warrenzyluo: thanks08:20
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jpichttx: Hello! I have a question about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/50869/ . I'm not sure how to interpret your comment: should I target the bug to RC2 myself, or go through the PTL to do this, or drop it 'cause we're past the RC2 deadline?09:06
ttxjpich: ideally Gabriel would add it to RC209:06
ttxjpich: I couldn't reach him yesterday09:07
ttxjpich: so I'd say Horizon RC2 won't be until Monday at this point09:07
jpichttx: Ok, I see, thanks. I'll drop him a mail as well09:08
ttxjpich: if by Monday he didn't chime in, I guess the two of us will discuss it and make a decision for him09:09
ttxjpich: anyway, backports usually go fast (no core review needed since it's already been reviewed in master)09:09
jpichttx: Ok!09:09
ttxjpich: it's more a question of making sure that's what the PTL wants :)09:10
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jpichttx: We had a chat about it in the last horizon meeting on Tuesday if that helps -> http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2013/horizon.2013-10-08-22.00.log.html - 22:18:5309:11
ttxlet's see if i can reasonably consider that a +109:12
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ttxjpich: "<gabrielhurley> if it gets into master quickly I'm good with that" -- ok, let's make it happen09:13
jpichttx: Great, thanks!09:13
ttxjpich: in the pipe now09:14
jpichttx: Awesome, cheers09:15
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mordreddcahill: I may have to work on several of them12:24
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openstackstatusNOTICE: Gate is currently stuck (probably due to networking issues preventing new test nodes from being spun)12:48
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icchahey russellb , would you like to lift -2 off of this patch, and give it a second look? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/46507/13:05
icchadprince: ^13:05
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icchaalaski: ^13:06
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dprinceiccha: Russell will remove the -2 when he sees this. He already went through his list of active -2's once since we branches for the release. This review missed that since it had expired (and wasn't active for a bit).13:14
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russellbdprince: iccha done13:19
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dprincerussellb: thanks13:19
russellbyep np13:19
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ttxrussellb: hola!13:21
ttxthe gate is a bit wedged right now13:21
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ttxrussellb: is 1238281 the only thing standing between us and rc2 ?13:22
russellbttx: let me do a status check ..13:22
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russellbttx: yep, that's it13:25
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ttxrussellb: ok so if the gate is unstuck we should be able to roll today13:25
russellbsounds good13:25
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russellbttx: I think this might be worth fixing too ... an error in a db migration for a new havana feature.  https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/122743413:33
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1227434 in nova "Quota "injected-file-content-bytes" does not work for each user" [Medium,In progress]13:33
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ttxrussellb: put in on the list and we'll see if it gets in soon enough13:35
* russellb nods13:35
russellbttx: i'll need to do the backport, there's some manual intervention required since it's a new db migration13:35
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dstanekdolphm: i got all of the test running using 'testr run', but some fail using 'python setup.py testr'14:04
dolphmdstanek: what's the difference?14:04
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dstanekdolphm: seems like cwd issues, but i'm not entirely sure yet14:05
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dstanekdolphm: then runtest.sh and docs will need a little love so that i can get a review up today14:05
dolphmdstanek: is it up for review?14:05
dolphmdstanek: ah k14:06
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dstanekdolphm: i have to compare with test names between what testr and nose report - testr seem to run a hell of a lot more tests14:06
dolphmdstanek: is that bug assigned to you in lp?14:06
dolphmdstanek: ooh, bknudson put a patch up related to that14:07
dolphmdstanek: i think nose was running anything with "test" anywhere in the name?14:07
dolphmdstanek: rather than just test_*14:07
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dstanekdolphm: yeah i saw that - this is actually testr running a lot more than what i expected (twice what nose runs)14:09
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openstackstatusNOTICE: The Infrastructure team is working through some devstack node starvation issues which is currently holding up gating and slowing checks. ETA 1600 UTC14:14
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dstanekdolphm: my issue was with parallel test execution - we can't do that :-(15:36
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dolphmdstanek: explain!15:48
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dolphmdstanek: tests manipulating fixturse?15:48
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dstanekdolphm: the setuptools integration default to parallel execution15:55
dolphmdstanek: right15:56
dolphmdstanek: what's the blocker?15:56
dstanekdolphm: we have hard coded filenames for stuff instead of using tempfile created directories15:56
dolphmdstanek: specifically for things we write to?15:56
dstanekdolphm: things blow up when 2 different tearDowns try to delete the same file :-)15:56
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dstanekdolphm: the test.db, the *.ini and other stuff15:57
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dstanekdolphm: i just turn off parallelization for now15:57
dolphmdstanek: that's a start -- test.db could be made dynamic15:58
dstanekdolphm: i want to get testr in and then i want to fix our tests15:58
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dolphmbut we are writing ini files as of recently..15:58
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dolphmdstanek: ++15:58
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dstanekdolphm: another things that frustrates me is that tests are grouped by class or module instead of grouping them by functionality15:59
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dstanekdolphm: so as a side effect our setups are really big because they contain all possible setup code for a class under test15:59
dolphmdstanek: ++16:00
dolphmour setups are expensive :(16:00
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openstackstatusNOTICE: the gate is moving again for the past half hour or so--thanks for your collective patience while we worked through the issue16:36
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shardydolphm: Hi16:47
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morganfainbergdolphm, ping16:54
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singhsdhellmann: yt17:30
singhsdhellmann: had a question about trusted message17:31
singhsrustlebee: yt17:32
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morganfainbergdolphm, http://paste.openstack.org/show/48299/ something like this for the to_str mechanism.17:46
morganfainbergdolphm, my tests are showing this should solve it.  however…. I ran into another issue with localization puking on my extra debugging in the cache backend with that17:47
dstanekmorganfainberg: is it safe to assume utf-8?17:48
dolphmshardy: morganfainberg: o/17:49
morganfainbergdstanek, any thoughts on the best approach without assuming utf-8?  python27 historically sucks w/ unicode17:49
morganfainbergwtb python33 handling of textstrings17:49
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dstanekmorganfainberg: you could use the header of the incoming request (if you have it) and see if it specifies17:50
morganfainbergdstanek, i don't have that information that far down17:50
dstanekmorganfainberg: also chardet is pretty awesome17:50
dstanekmorganfainberg: where do you have to rig up that function?17:51
morganfainbergdstanek, this only surfaces in one specific place and i can't even make a contrived test that failes unless i pass it through keystone's wsgi17:51
dolphmmorganfainberg: maybe need to handle this in wsgi then?17:51
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dolphmkeystone.common.wsgi17:51
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morganfainbergdstanek, http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/keystone/tree/keystone/assignment/core.py#n294 you would add "to_str=<method>" in the decorator options17:52
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morganfainbergdolphm, hrm. perhaps.  but like i said, localization seems to break with decoded unicode =/17:52
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dstaneki havent' really looked at the code from this perspective, but we should only use unicode objects internally and convert bytes to unicode on the edges where necessary17:54
morganfainbergdstanek, i agree.17:54
dolphmmorganfainberg: the problem is that it's actually unicode and not an ascii string, which is what dogpile is expecting, right?17:54
morganfainbergdolphm, i think it's decoded unicode by that point.17:54
morganfainbergdolphm, erm, encoded.17:55
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morganfainbergdolphm, since we're getting a decode exception17:55
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dstanekmorganfainberg: what is dogpile trying to do?17:55
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morganfainbergdstanek, https://bitbucket.org/zzzeek/dogpile.cache/src/c4ea9e7c6082ffb55519c4489df488f09af6cc1e/dogpile/cache/util.py?at=master#cl-8617:56
dolphmmorganfainberg: it's an encodeerror17:56
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dstanekmorganfainberg: oh, i see17:57
morganfainbergdolphm, ok so it's decoded unicode17:57
dolphmsigh. pasting unicode into paste.openstack.org crashes it lol17:57
dstanekmorganfainberg: then just picking an encoding won't really matter at all as long as the same one is always picked17:57
morganfainbergdolphm, betcha it's running python! :)17:57
morganfainbergdstanek, that seems correct.  i just need to solve some debug output issues as well17:58
dolphmmorganfainberg: we're essentially seeing this http://pasteraw.com/pxkjlpkn9tlbi6duq6jpaelyvldfhir17:58
morganfainbergdstanek, very useful debugging for getting into cache-key generation in the backend.  so i don't want to lose it17:58
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dstanekmorganfainberg: nm my comment then, i thought that this would mess with that data a user would see17:58
dolphmmorganfainberg: the json module is returning actual unicode, and dogpile is trying to mash that into a str()17:58
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morganfainbergdolphm, right. which means i could just force an encode each time, right?17:59
dolphmmorganfainberg: i believe so17:59
morganfainbergwe don't _really_ care as long as the cache key is consistent17:59
dolphmmorganfainberg: but you shouldn't have to try/except it17:59
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morganfainbergright, thats what i meant, i can just say str(s.encode()) basically18:00
morganfainbergvs. try/except18:00
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dolphmhttp://pasteraw.com/sfclv1161ddx2jlojplwgr9n8dcn9z418:01
dolphmmorganfainberg: you don't have to wrap it in str() either18:01
dolphm.encode() returns a str18:01
morganfainbergdolphm, hrm. awsome18:01
morganfainbergmuch better :)18:01
morganfainbergdolphm, thanks! :)18:01
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morganfainbergdolphm, do you know if repr is smart enough to not confuse gettextutil?18:02
dolphmmorganfainberg: no clue18:02
morganfainbergdolphm, i'll try it.  i don't want to lose the ability to use non-mangled-keys and cache-backend debugging with unicode because the logger + localization is being dumb.18:03
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morganfainbergdolphm, if possible.18:03
morganfainbergdolphm, i'll have a patchset (and grab the unicode tests in the other review) up shortly18:04
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morganfainbergdolphm, this needs to go against master and milestone-proposed correct?18:04
dhellmannsinghs: pong18:04
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dolphmmorganfainberg: yes18:04
morganfainbergdolphm, ok. testing locally, then will get a patchset up for review.18:05
dolphmmorganfainberg: is disabling caching not a workaround for this?18:05
morganfainbergdolphm, nope.  the key generator is called in either case.18:05
dolphmthat's what i thought, thanks18:05
morganfainbergdolphm, np18:05
dolphmraising the priority then18:06
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singhsdhellmann: hi, for the trusted message does the design allow for KDS plugins?18:06
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dhellmannsinghs: I'm not that familiar with that part of the code. Have you talked to the people working on it?18:07
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singhsdhellmann: no as not sure who is working on that part, flavio?18:08
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dhellmannsinghs: are you talking about in oslo-incubator rpc or in oslo.messaging?18:10
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rustlebeetrusted messaging was mostly simo18:11
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dhellmannthanks, rustlebee18:12
rustlebeenp18:12
dstanekdolphm: why have run_tests.sh if tox exists?18:12
dolphmdstanek: this is a valid question18:12
dolphmdstanek: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/34945/18:13
dhellmannsinghs: https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/oslo-incubator/commit/?id=9157286d1e96246a44ba9891ec302e59a0e5c7be18:13
singhsrustlebee, dhellmann : thanks, yes i am talking of the oslo-incubator rpc18:13
dstanekdolphm: hmm...i editing it now to use testr and i find myself wondering why18:14
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singhsdhellmann, rustlebee : will talk to people there, thanks for the link18:15
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clarkbdstanek: the last remaining reasons for run_tests.sh seem to be using no venv and running with a debugger18:16
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dstanekclarkb: i saw the bug to add pdb support to testrepository;  what do people do instead right now, nosetests?18:20
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clarkbdstanek: some people do. for nova run_tests I put in testtools.run to avoid another dependency18:22
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morganfainbergdolphm, i think i'm going to go for the _very_ quick fix here since i'm still stumbling on encode/decode issues (it seems to be different depending on how things are being called) and I want more time to chase this down.18:39
morganfainbergdolphm, i'm going to just yank the _by_name caching for project/domain18:39
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morganfainbergdolphm, work on a longer-term fix when we aren't under the wire for RC bugs.18:39
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dolphmmorganfainberg: :( does this only affect two calls?18:50
morganfainbergdolphm, get_project_by_name and get_domain_by_name18:50
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morganfainbergdolphm, in havana it's the only ones that are not uuid based with caching.18:50
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dolphmmorganfainberg: we're not caching on authenticate() right?18:51
morganfainbergdolphm, no.18:51
morganfainbergdolphm, but to be sure, i'll get a complete list of all on_argument calls.18:51
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morganfainbergdolphm, http://paste.openstack.org/show/48307/18:52
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morganfainbergeverything is caching by ID for the most part.18:53
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dolphmmorganfainberg: can ldap dn's contain unicode?18:54
morganfainbergdolphm, fair point, they probably can.  ok, trying to replace the entire key generator instead. (18:55
dolphm:-/ sorry lol18:55
morganfainbergdolphm, there seems to be some oddity on how the strings are formatted when they get to the key generator.  some times i am getting a decode error, sometimes an encode error18:55
simosinghs: I was working on both sides, the KDS itself has not been thought to use plugins at this stage18:56
dolphmmorganfainberg: there's two sources of data there -- the request url and request body18:56
morganfainbergdolphm, right. thats probably what is doing it.18:56
simosinghs: why would you want to use plugins ? what kind of pluggable behavior may be desirable ?18:56
morganfainbergdolphm, ok, well let me get some lucnh, i'll drag up the key generator i was playing with and get this hammered out.  i have a good test case now at least :)18:57
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dolphmmorganfainberg: json should be taking care of the request body? GET /v2.0/tenants?name={should_be_urlencoded} <-- no clue what that looks like in python18:57
morganfainbergdolphm, i think keystoneclient has an issue as well with the tenant-delete by name functionality18:58
morganfainbergdolphm, in some cases it explodes before it gets to the server hwen you do keystone tenant-delete <unicode named tenant name>18:58
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dolphmbknudson: gyee: were one of ya'll holding off on approving this for some reason? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/49791/19:29
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gyeedolphm, no, approved now :)19:32
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singhssimo: to be able to have a different key distribution and management strategy19:35
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dolphmgyee: thanks! i kept looking at it thinking "maybe i missed something in IRC?"19:37
gyeeno, I thought ayoung was going to take at it too. But hey, he had 24 hours! :)19:37
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dolphmgyee: does he have a 24 hour policy?19:45
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nagyzhi there19:45
dolphmnagyz: o/19:45
gyeedolphm, nah, I was just giving him a hard time19:46
dolphmnagyz: which bug?19:46
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nagyzdifferentiating between a disabled user and a non-existent one19:46
nagyzI had a quick chat with Henry Nash about it and of course I agree that we shouldn't leak security related info19:46
nagyzesp if it can be used in an online attack19:47
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nagyzbut let me tell you a bit about our internal use-case (I work for IBM, just logged in from home, not from the office)19:47
dolphmnagyz: how did you want to differentiate between them?19:47
dolphm404 vs 401?19:47
nagyzyeah, that's what I proposed, but I'm open to ideas19:47
nagyzbasically, by default we're authenticating from LDAP and every user is in a disabled state19:47
nagyzif you want to use openstack, and use horizon, you need to go to an external system where you accept some business license terms19:48
nagyz(usage, mostly)19:48
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nagyzand then that system sets your enabled to true19:48
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dolphmnagyz: awesome19:48
nagyznow, that system has to know if the user is disabled or just nonexistent19:48
nagyzwithout changing that, we have no way to do this.19:48
nagyzany suggestions?19:48
dolphmnagyz: GET /v3/users?name={something} will either return the user with enabled=False or you'll get an empty list19:49
nagyzyeah but I guess that I can only do as an admin19:49
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nagyzright?19:49
dolphmnagyz: you could setup a special role just for that19:50
nagyzthis external system then would have no way to authenticate against keystone directly19:50
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dolphmnagyz: with the default policy.json -- yes, you'd have to have the 'admin' role19:50
nagyzwould need to verify the username+password in LDAP first, and then check in keystone19:50
dolphmnagyz: why does it need to check anything in keystone if it's working with ldap already?19:51
simosinghs: can you elaborate a little bit more on that ?19:51
nagyzdolphm, the app uses keystone only currently; LDAP is just a keystone backend for now (we're using the hybrid implementation from suse)19:52
nagyzI could change it, tho19:52
nagyzwould pushing down how a disabled state work into the plugin framework make sense?19:52
simosinghs: we were planning on experimenting also with public key crypto in the future, so pluggability may be a good idea, however defining how the client knows what the server supports then becomes important19:52
nagyzthis is something Henry suggested19:52
dolphmnagyz: ah, so the external system is writing to ldap through keystone?19:53
dolphmnagyz: specifically, it's setting enabled=True through keystone for a given user?19:54
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nagyzyes, it does19:54
nagyzand then keystone pushes down that operation to whatever backend it uses19:54
nagyzwe'd like to base this purely on keystone19:54
dolphmnagyz: cool19:54
nagyzactually we think this is a quite common scenario, so adding it directly to horizon would make sense (at least so far in our internal code base)19:55
dolphmnagyz: so, your external system has it's own user account in keystone already?19:55
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nagyzfirst it tries to log in with the user acc, and then based on the result (401 vs 403) either proceeds to enabling the user or just saying unauthorized19:56
nagyzit currently uses the admin account for the second operation tho19:56
singhssimo: yes that is the idea that if one want to take advantage of some existing PKI or kerberos type fo infrastructure then how can that be leveraged and integreated with the current proposal19:56
nagyzbut we could use a services acc for that19:56
dolphmnagyz: right, so i'm thinking this system should neither have full admin nor be authenticating with keystone as that user19:56
nagyzdo you think this functionality would make sense in terms of integrating it directly to horizon?19:57
nagyzI'm eager to contribute something back :-)19:57
dolphmnagyz: i'd create like a user-manager role for this system, that has authz in policy.json to do list_users, get_user and update_user19:57
singhssimo: can there be a config setting to sleect a KDS19:57
dolphmnagyz: you should be able to accomplish your entire workflow with those three calls (determine whether the user already exists, change the enabled state of the user, and verify the result)19:58
singhssimo: if like message abstraction, one can have some key APIs that can then be hooked up to any real implementation, default could be the one that you  are working on19:59
nagyzdolphm, makes sense except for the first step: this system also needs to verify the user with the provided user password; would get_user cover that?20:00
dolphmnagyz: no, you'd have to attempt authentication for that20:00
nagyzand then if I get 401 I should do a get_user and check disabled. got it.20:01
dolphmnagyz: if you really need to verify the password, then maybe do that as a second step after verifying the presence of the user name and enabled state through list_users20:01
singhssimo: that will allow support for different key management strategy, from my understanding it looks like how you get the key is some detail that can be abstracted20:01
nagyzwould this functionality make sense in horizon?20:01
dolphmnagyz: i can't answer that :P20:01
singhssimo: once you have they keys then it can blend into the rest of the framework20:01
nagyzwhat would be the best way to get the feel if it makes sense?20:02
nagyzI opened a blueprint for that a while ago20:02
nagyzbut nobody commented :-)20:02
dolphmnagyz: it definitely makes sense as a horizon panel20:02
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nagyzhttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/terms-and-conditions-page20:02
nagyzthis is the blueprint20:03
dolphmnagyz: create it and share it :)20:03
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nagyzis it better usually to attach working code based on trunk to a blueprint?20:03
dolphmnagyz: developers communicate in code, so that's often a better way to get their attention :)20:03
nagyzfor bugs I know it ends up in gerrit; what about code check-ins for blueprints? same lifecycle?20:04
dolphmnagyz: exactly the same, you just cite a blueprint in the commit message rather than a bug20:04
nagyzI see20:04
nagyzI'll get my guys on it - currently it's a separate flask application20:05
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nagyzthanks20:05
dolphmnagyz: you can post it on gerrit as Work In Progress if you're just looking to talk about the code, rather than looking to have it merged20:06
dolphmnagyz: sure20:06
mjbright_*anyone*: New to Gerrit. In Jenkins I'm seeing timeouts this evening ("tempest/common/waiters.py") ... is this a Friday night thing or is there some problem with review.openstack.org ?20:08
clarkbmjbright_: specific examples would be helpful. there were some testing issues earlier this morning but those have since been resolved20:09
dolphmmjbright_: link? you can browse for similar failures here as well- http://status.openstack.org/rechecks/20:09
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mjbright_clarkb: http://logs.openstack.org/63/51263/2/check/check-tempest-devstack-vm-postgres-full/b44e6fb/console.html20:09
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simosinghs: I think it would be easier to make the client pluggable and use directly another service20:12
clarkbmjbright_ that looks like a valid failure20:13
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simosinghs: and the client is actually already basically pluggable, as all you need to do is swap one implementaion class for another as the objects implementing secure messaging are quite abstract and self contained in the interface they expose to oslo messaging20:13
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clarkbmjbright_: whether or not it is related to your change is another question. I would check the rechecks page dolphm linked and see if it happens for other folks20:15
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mjbright_clarkb: "valid" and so my code introduced a timeout problem ... or ... ?20:15
mjbright_clarkb: OK, thanks.20:16
jgriffithrustlebee: sighh... I'm trying so hard to not get sucked in to what is turning in to an absolutely ridiculous mail thread20:22
rustlebeejgriffith: heh20:22
rustlebeejgriffith: i think i need to stop20:22
jgriffithI can't resist this last one though20:22
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rustlebeejgriffith: but tell me if i'm bonkers20:22
jgriffithThe "vendor vs core"20:22
jgriffithI'm frankly a bit offended by statements like that20:22
rustlebeeyep20:22
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rustlebeesee my response to that?20:23
rustlebeei couldn't really make it past that as a part of the problem statement20:23
jgriffithahh... perfect20:24
singhssimo: so the public crypo experiment that you mentioned to do would be basically writing another of client and then in the keystone configuration one can specify whicb cleint to pick?20:24
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singhssimo: there is a thinking to make the client pluggable ?20:26
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dolphmrustlebee: jgriffith: alright, i have to ask what thread this is?20:26
rustlebeejgriffith: :)20:26
jgriffithdolphm: :)20:26
rustlebeedolphm: on openstack-dev, [Havana] Hyper-V Status20:26
rustlebeeit's fun20:26
rustlebeehas taken a couple turns20:27
dolphmreading..20:27
jgriffithanybody noticed we always seem to have one of these rat-hole postings right about the time of release each cycle?20:27
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simosinghs: yeah that was my thinking, because the client really needs to behave in a different way20:29
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dolphmyeah, this thread escalates quickly lol20:30
simosinghs: atm there isn't a pluggable infrastructure, but it really is just a matter of making it possible to load the right module at runtime instead of loading it unconditionallyi sxpect that to be easily done via paste or similar20:30
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singhssimo: sounds a very promising, you plan to have the client configuration in keystone conf so that it can be also used when keystone is not deployed behind hhtpd20:46
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simosinghs: client configuration will need to belong in the indvidual applications I guess20:47
simoimported via oslo20:48
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singhssimo: by application you mean openstack components20:59
singhssimo: what is different components configure different key clients21:00
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simosinghs: bad confiuration, sam as if some component have wrong keys/passwords in configuration, ie, not my problem :)21:04
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singhssimo: yes, but i was thinking if one can put that type of config at a place where we avoid this type of mismatch might be a better place21:06
simosinghs: I know of no way to configure a client in the server21:07
simobut feel free to propose something there21:07
simosinghs: if you think config could be retrieved from the server esecurely somehow ...21:07
simosinghs: keep in mind that you have to give keys to the clients, so it's not like you can do a sero-conf effort here21:08
simo*zero-conf21:08
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singhssimo: my nowledgeat this point is limited and yes there are other settings as well where one has to have cooperation settings for the components to work so that is probbaly not a big issue21:32
singhssimo: one could also put in some common setting if possible21:32
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xarsesdolphm: ping22:44
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