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| hub_cap | jamielennox: around? | 00:17 |
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| jgriffith | clarkb: around? | 00:38 |
| clarkb | not really. whats up? | 00:38 |
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| jamielennox | hub_cap: yep | 00:39 |
| jgriffith | clarkb: no worries | 00:39 |
| jgriffith | clarkb: just a note I marked that bug as a dup | 00:40 |
| jgriffith | clarkb: and it merged about an hour after the log run you posted | 00:40 |
| jgriffith | clarkb: it should be addressed, if you see it again though hit me in the face | 00:40 |
| jgriffith | clarkb: (not literally of course) | 00:40 |
| clarkb | will do thanks | 00:40 |
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| cburgess | jgriffith: *ping* | 01:00 |
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| jamielennox | bknudson: the keystoneclient test moves review, i purposefully seperated test imports from project imports so that we could see what was being tested vs what was helping with tests | 01:05 |
| jamielennox | bknudson: you think i should just lump them all into project imports? | 01:05 |
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| bknudson | jamielennox: I'm ok with them being separated... just wanted to point out that it doesn't match what I changed keystone to | 01:14 |
| bknudson | because I was following the hacking guideline | 01:14 |
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| bknudson | hacking guideline could be updated. | 01:14 |
| jamielennox | bknudson: i think it makes more sense to have them seperate like that, but i'm not that concerned | 01:16 |
| jamielennox | it's your -1, i don't think it's a good idea to put keystoneclient's HACKING out of sync with other projects - mix them back in? | 01:16 |
| morganfainberg | jamielennox, i prefer test imports being separate, but that is purely personal opinion, i'd probably go with the hacking guidelines | 01:17 |
| bknudson | jamielennox: I'd prefer they were mixed back in because I think that's what hacking wants | 01:19 |
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| jamielennox | morganfainberg: i think bknudson wins, otherwise i'd need to fight through getting a HACKING change upstream and then into all the other projects - http://docs.openstack.org/developer/hacking/ | 01:21 |
| morganfainberg | jamielennox, like i said, i like it the way you have it, but i'd go w/ the hacking guidelines for that very reason | 01:22 |
| jamielennox | me too morganfainberg, me too | 01:22 |
| morganfainberg | well, you're explination might be a bit more over-the-top than my internal description :P | 01:22 |
| morganfainberg | ;) | 01:22 |
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| jamielennox | morganfainberg: also was it you who did moved the keystone tests into the keystone package? | 01:23 |
| jamielennox | i think you missed updating at least the .coveragerc file | 01:24 |
| morganfainberg | jamielennox, i just did the approval, iirc mordred did it | 01:24 |
| mordred | what did I do? | 01:24 |
| morganfainberg | mordred the change that moved tests to kesytone.tests | 01:24 |
| mordred | jamielennox: poop. you're probably right. lemme go fix | 01:24 |
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| mordred | jamielennox: .coveragerc looks right to me | 01:25 |
| mordred | jamielennox: what's breaking? | 01:25 |
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| jamielennox | mordred: ah, not that big a deal, just add keystone/tests/* to coveragerc | 01:26 |
| jamielennox | to omit | 01:26 |
| mordred | AH. omit. duh. yeah | 01:26 |
| * mordred already drinking | 01:26 | |
| jamielennox | it's not a big deal - and i haven't tested it either, but i was using keystone for a template and noticed it | 01:27 |
| mordred | jamielennox: https://review.openstack.org/47951 | 01:27 |
| mordred | jamielennox: you know about cookiecutter? | 01:27 |
| jamielennox | wow, lighting reviews | 01:27 |
| jamielennox | i saw the -dev post about it | 01:27 |
| mordred | pip install cookiecutter ; cookiecutter https://git.openstack.org/openstack-dev/cookiecutter.git | 01:28 |
| mordred | and you'll get a nice new fresh repo | 01:28 |
| jamielennox | mordred: next step common client library code :) | 01:28 |
| * jamielennox is somewhat pushing an agenda | 01:29 | |
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| jamielennox | it will be a big use though with all the new projects starting - and all the third party projects im sure are going to exist | 01:31 |
| mordred | ++ | 01:33 |
| mordred | jamielennox: wait - which things do you want in common library code - because I probably agree with you... | 01:33 |
| mordred | oh - common client library code. | 01:34 |
| mordred | maybe I should learn to read | 01:34 |
| bknudson | getting a token should be common | 01:34 |
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| jamielennox | mordred: auth_plugins, request handling, a common manager base mainly | 01:35 |
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| jamielennox | but this is a long conversation | 01:36 |
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| jgriffith | mordred: ping | 01:42 |
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| morganfainberg | jgriffith, cburgess just left to go home, likely he'll be back on in the not-too-distant-future | 01:47 |
| jgriffith | morganfainberg: cool... thanks | 01:48 |
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| mordred | jamielennox: sounds like a good summit one | 02:15 |
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| ayoung | jamielennox, so...on the client...what if we just cut bait on the old code. Leave it there and deprecated, and started fresh with a new, v3 specific client. If we really really want, we can have the old code call into the new code, but basically just accept that trying to keep maintaing the existing client code is locking us in to an approach we don't want to support. Is that the conclusion you cme to long ago, that I have h | 02:48 |
| ayoung | ad to come to myself? | 02:48 |
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| jamielennox | ayoung: hmm - i really think that we can deprecate what's there it just makes for really ugly reviews | 02:50 |
| jamielennox | also i like the keystoneclient.v3.client.Client namespace and then it would be taken | 02:50 |
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| jamielennox | :) | 02:50 |
| jamielennox | i *think* we can run the deprecation cycle really fast | 02:50 |
| ayoung | is that agreement? | 02:51 |
| jamielennox | if you can sell it to core i'm happy with it | 02:51 |
| jamielennox | there isn't that major a change from a user perspective to warrant a major bump though - also i think we can't just leave v2 behind | 02:52 |
| ayoung | jamielennox, v3 is relatively new...does it have the same cruft as the v2 stuff? | 02:52 |
| jamielennox | yes, because it's the core of the library that is the cruft | 02:52 |
| ayoung | so we would break someone that is using the existing library to talk v3..... | 02:53 |
| ayoung | what if we make any new work v3 only. | 02:53 |
| jamielennox | maybe we would break someone | 02:53 |
| ayoung | and...have a different entrypoint | 02:53 |
| jamielennox | look the problem with this stuff is that what we are deprecating really isn't/shouldn't be used by anyone | 02:54 |
| jamielennox | once you have created a client with that big long list of kwargs do you ever retrieve password from the client? | 02:54 |
| jamielennox | client = v2_client.Client(username='abc', password='xyz') | 02:54 |
| jamielennox | print client.password | 02:54 |
| cburgess | jgriffith: *ping*, I'm back | 02:54 |
| ayoung | right...so we give them something that they should use, get good document examples, make it a different class, and deprecate the old stuff. | 02:54 |
| ayoung | Damn I make good apple pie. I am going back for a second piece | 02:55 |
| jamielennox | get some good docs, deprecated the old stuff aim for a 1.0 soon where all that base crap is deprecated | 02:55 |
| jamielennox | seriously unless you went looking through the client code to figure all this stuff out there is nothing that i have deprecated that you should even know exists | 02:56 |
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| ayoung | jamielennox, OK, so what is the client patch that you have that most needs review? | 03:00 |
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| jamielennox | ayoung: it's one you've -1ed - i need to come up with something better that ClientSession | 03:01 |
| ayoung | ah. | 03:02 |
| jamielennox | and i need to wrtie out a vision doc or something because i don't think most people understand the point of all this | 03:02 |
| jamielennox | there was another patch reviving the nova's auth_plugin in keystoneclient the other day | 03:03 |
| jamielennox | and i got another email from people asking how it's going because there are projects looking at this stuff not wanting to start implementing a client in the wrong way | 03:03 |
| ayoung | jamielennox, yeah, I was pinged by cppcabrera about it earlier today. Hate to hold them up. | 03:05 |
| jamielennox | is that a person, project or mistake? | 03:06 |
| ayoung | jamielennox, Change Session to request builder | 03:06 |
| jamielennox | i've had cern and trove in the last couple of days | 03:06 |
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| ayoung | We may end up going further with that refactoring, but that is really the way I see the code falling together. | 03:07 |
| ayoung | A request is a complex object, and we are going to maintain some state for building multiple requests. | 03:07 |
| ayoung | jamespage, ccpcabrera is adev on marconi. He was talking with aababilov who was justly griping about the holdup from Keystone | 03:08 |
| jamielennox | yeah i missed alessio last night - he sent me a message | 03:09 |
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| jamielennox | i'd be annoyed too | 03:09 |
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| jamielennox | i want to get this moving again before summit | 03:11 |
| jamielennox | i need to resurrect/recreate some form of blog for this stuff | 03:12 |
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| ayoung | jamielennox, the general pattern I see would be request builder holds the logic that we want to insulate from the user. we provide a more granular API with things like which the maanger can then select. Different managers for different use cases. | 03:13 |
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| ayoung | Different builders for big changes | 03:13 |
| ayoung | same manager should be able to talk to a different builder to get, say, bound tokens when the service is updated to support them | 03:14 |
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| jamielennox | mm, no i don't particularly want different builders - there is no reason for that i can see | 03:14 |
| jamielennox | configurable sure | 03:14 |
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| jamielennox | but i don't see anything that will prevent the use of jsut 1 | 03:15 |
| jamielennox | we may end up with a number of kwargs flags on it again but that's ok | 03:15 |
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| ayoung | actually, I've often liked the combination of builder with interpretor. You specifcy what somethihg should look like in asimple API...and the siple APi gets interpreted into a series of build commands to the granular API. | 03:16 |
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| ayoung | So we could have request_specs which are the domain specific logic like "create user" "start vm" | 03:16 |
| ayoung | OK...I'm over designing here, I know it. | 03:17 |
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| jamielennox | ya | 03:17 |
| ayoung | I'm just trying to get labels for the concepts that you already have put forth | 03:17 |
| ayoung | Request manager is fine | 03:17 |
| jamielennox | builder is fairly accurate if you consider the request an object, but we don't return a request, we return a response | 03:18 |
| ayoung | it is bascially a complex factory...we can abstract away the guts behind it over time. | 03:18 |
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| ayoung | request is a command object | 03:18 |
| jamielennox | i'll have another go with RequestManager | 03:18 |
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| ayoung | we build a command, and then execute it | 03:18 |
| jamielennox | right | 03:19 |
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| ayoung | We need to be able to build a wide variety of commands. Commands are complex objects. To build a specific command, you have a reusable piece of logic, and a piece specific to that command | 03:20 |
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| ayoung | OK...bed | 03:21 |
| jamielennox | close enough for now | 03:21 |
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| jamielennox | as i said i need to just do some actually writing i think | 03:21 |
| jamielennox | good night | 03:22 |
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| morganfainberg | i know it's late | 05:45 |
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| sridevi | folks please review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/34801/ | 06:42 |
| sridevi | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/46279/ | 06:42 |
| sridevi | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/46693/ | 06:42 |
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| zyluo | ttx, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/47987 | 08:24 |
| zyluo | ttx, is this what you meant? | 08:24 |
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| ttx | Ah! Just proposed https://review.openstack.org/#/c/47988/ | 08:24 |
| ttx | zyluo: yes, yours or mine. Then rebase the other on top of it :) | 08:25 |
| zyluo | ttx, lets go with yours then. I'll resubmit. | 08:25 |
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| ttx | zyluo: awesome | 08:25 |
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| zyluo | ttx, I figured it out while you were trying to explain :) | 08:29 |
| zyluo | ttx, resubmitted on top of your patch | 08:29 |
| ttx | zyluo: and +1ed | 08:29 |
| ttx | zyluo: fwiw cinder should really be using separate filter files for every driver | 08:30 |
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| ttx | so that you allow stuff a lot more granualrly | 08:30 |
| ttx | late for havana, but food for icehouse thoughts | 08:30 |
| * ttx -> coffee | 08:31 | |
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| tsufiev | david-lyle, mrunge, amotoki, kspear, could you please take a look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/45655/ ? | 09:13 |
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| mrunge | it seems, gating is currently broken. has anybody a status update on this? | 09:51 |
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| dolphm | markmc: bah, i was just poking around with switching to oslo.config 1.2, and then realized you had assigned yourself all those bugs | 12:23 |
| dolphm | markmc: what can i do to help? | 12:23 |
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| markmc | dolphm, I just released 1.2.0 and proposed https://review.openstack.org/48022 | 12:27 |
| dolphm | markmc: i just started a recheck on that | 12:27 |
| markmc | dolphm, happy for you to update any projects you like | 12:27 |
| markmc | dolphm, just re-assign | 12:28 |
| markmc | dolphm, I was waiting for the requirements change before proposing patches | 12:28 |
| markmc | dolphm, there's a known issue with pyparsing/cliff messing up all the gate checks | 12:28 |
| dolphm | markmc: i opened https://review.openstack.org/#/c/48031/ but hadn't referenced the bug | 12:29 |
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| dolphm | markmc: i saw that on list, is there more discussion somewhere? | 12:29 |
| markmc | dolphm, cool, just add the bug reference and re-assign | 12:29 |
| markmc | dolphm, also, you'll probably want >=1.2.0 to match whats in openstack/requirements | 12:29 |
| markmc | dolphm, I just saw some discussion on #openstack-infra | 12:29 |
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| dstanek | dolphm: should the 'extra' behavior that exists in the SQL identity driver exist in the LDAP identity driver? | 12:35 |
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| dolphm | dstanek: throw JSON into some attribute in LDAP? | 12:38 |
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| dolphm | dstanek: A) i'd say that's a new feature, so not for icehouse, B) i'd be hesitant to, because it's been a consistent source of bugs in sql | 12:40 |
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| dstanek | dolphm: k, just checking - i wrote tests to show the behavior and the update_user doesn't have the same behavior | 12:44 |
| dstanek | dolphm: get and create work ok though | 12:44 |
| dstanek | dolphm: source of bugs in keystone or by external apps? | 12:45 |
| dolphm | dstanek: have you seen chmouel's patch for update user? | 12:45 |
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| dolphm | dstanek: in keystone | 12:45 |
| dstanek | dolphm: no, is it new? | 12:45 |
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| dolphm | dstanek: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/45447/ | 12:47 |
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| dolphm | dstanek: the bug was filed specifically against project update, but it revises BaseLdap.update() | 12:47 |
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| dstanek | dolphm: that looks exactly like the issue i found while writing tests | 12:51 |
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| dstanek | dolphm: when can the essex/folsom buggy behavior of adding the extra dict to the entities be removed? | 12:57 |
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| dolphm | dstanek: "when can the essex/folsom buggy behavior of adding the extra dict to the entities be removed?" you mean support for 'extra' in the sql backend in the first place? | 13:08 |
| dolphm | dstanek: or the useless 'extra' attribute that's tacked onto API responses? | 13:09 |
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| dstanek | dolphm: the useless extra attribute | 13:09 |
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| dolphm | dstanek: that's a conversation i would *love* to have. the simple answer is that we'd have to bump the major api version, but the api governance says we can make backwards-incompatible changes "in a controlled way"... which is vague. | 13:14 |
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| * dstanek wonders if that behavior exists in v3 | 13:16 | |
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| dolphm | dstanek: there's some garbage tacked onto the token in the same vein... i can't remember if it's called 'extra' or maybe 'metadata' or something? | 13:16 |
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| dolphm | dstanek: anyway, there's definitely undocumented garbage there just causing bloat | 13:17 |
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| wink | hello, about https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1175211 - manually backporting those fixes doesn't seem to help, neither do the last comments sound hopeful - anyone got any pointer if it was indeed fixed or where I can poke around? | 13:45 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1175211 in nova "quantum DNS name does not match VM hostname" [Undecided,In progress] | 13:45 |
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| kbringard | wink: we hacked in a patch as a workaround… it'd not pretty and YMMV, but if you're interested | 13:49 |
| kbringard | https://gist.github.com/kevinbringard/6685037 | 13:49 |
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| kbringard | basically, it queries the nova API (so you need an rc file it can access) and then uses the VM name to write out the hosts file, instead of the IP | 13:50 |
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| openfly | sooo is nova-network staying in for icehouse? | 13:51 |
| wink | kbringard: thanks a lot, will have a look | 13:52 |
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| kbringard | wink: that was for grizzly, BTW, the one which is currently in the ubuntu repos | 13:52 |
| kbringard | depending on what, if anything, has changed, you may need to modify it some | 13:53 |
| kbringard | anyway, hope it helps! | 13:53 |
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| wink | kbringard: yeah, we don't have that setup running for long, just before the neutron rename, so it's perfect :) | 13:54 |
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| dolphm | dstanek: can you base any of your new tests on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/45447/ ? i'd love to extra coverage on that before RC1 if possible | 13:58 |
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| dstanek | dolphm: what is the best way to do that? fetch checkout that change and just rebase on top of it? | 14:09 |
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| dolphm | dstanek: yeah- i'd cherry pick on top of the checkout, and push them back to gerrit with git-review | 14:28 |
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| wink | kbringard: hm, probably missed something, but even after restarting basically all nova-* and quantum-* I don't even get log entries | 14:36 |
| dstanek | dolphm: this would be much faster is the test were faster ;-) | 14:37 |
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| dolphm | dstanek: try using `vi; git commit -a -m 'i made all the tests faster'; git review` ;) | 14:38 |
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| dstanek | dolphm: done | 14:58 |
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| henrynash | dolphm: are the gating problems also clobbering jenkins runs for patches for reviews? | 15:06 |
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| insanidade | hi all. I'm building a small demo using the nova client api, trying to launch an instance. for some reason it fails (http 500). Not sure what parameter I'm missing. Would anyone take a look if I paste the code at paste.openstack? | 15:13 |
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| insanidade | anyone ? | 15:16 |
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| mrodden | insanidade: you might have better luck in #openstack | 15:24 |
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| mrodden | http 500 means a server error, so you would need the stack trace from the server logs | 15:25 |
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| insanidade | mrodden: I'm not sure about the code's lifecycle. Not sure if I can invoke the api methods the way I'm doing. | 15:27 |
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| insanidade | mrodden: http://paste.openstack.org/show/47430/ | 15:28 |
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| insanidade | mrodden: I'm watching the logs in 'screen'. I'll try figure something out. | 15:29 |
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| mrodden | insanidade: that should work | 15:31 |
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| mrodden | insanidade: need more info as to why it failed | 15:31 |
| insanidade | mrodden: just found the logs. I'll try copying something useful. | 15:31 |
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| mrodden | insanidade: unfortunately i have to step out for awhile | 15:32 |
| insanidade | mrodden: no problem. thanks | 15:32 |
| mrodden | np | 15:32 |
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| openfly | hey how do you change the language on the python clients? | 15:34 |
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| openstackstatus | NOTICE: changes seem to be making it through the gate once more, and so it should be safe to "recheck bug 1229797" or "reverify bug 1229797" on affected changes as needed | 15:48 |
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| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1229797 in openstack-ci "cliff 1.4.5 & pyparsing 2.0.1 cause sadness in the gate" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1229797 | 15:48 |
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| insanidade | anyone alive? looks like netsplit is catching everyone. | 15:59 |
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| openfly | hrmm is there i18n support in any of the python clients? | 16:00 |
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| insanidade | would anyone please take a look at this nova's api error? http://paste.openstack.org/show/47435/ | 16:02 |
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| openfly | as i recall that's a fairly generic python error | 16:04 |
| openfly | usually a datatype conversion issue | 16:04 |
| insanidade | openfly: do you refer to the error I posted? | 16:05 |
| openfly | yes | 16:05 |
| insanidade | openfly: "AttributeError: 'unicode' object has no attribute 'iteritems'" | 16:05 |
| openfly | yeah | 16:05 |
| insanidade | Maybe I misunderstood this but looks like the code is invoking an attribute that does not exist. | 16:06 |
| insanidade | nova's code. | 16:06 |
| insanidade | isn't that the case ? | 16:06 |
| openfly | well it sees it as a unicode object... | 16:06 |
| insanidade | openfly: would that mean I should tell it that's not an unicode object? | 16:07 |
| openfly | and as a result the iteritems attribute is not available. | 16:07 |
| openfly | well i assume so but i don't know that segment of code | 16:07 |
| openfly | so i don't know what it's supposed to be seen as. | 16:07 |
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| openfly | i can just tell you it's not seeing that attribute and when it pulls that 'unicode' stuff it's usually a fairly generic datatype issue. | 16:08 |
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| openfly | like you do a lookup on that error without the iteritems bit and you'll see a TON of errors with that message | 16:08 |
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| openfly | it makes it a bit of a pain to diagnose as all it really tells you is the datatype isn't what it's expecting. | 16:09 |
| insanidade | openfly: yeah. Just figured that out after a quick search on google :P | 16:10 |
| insanidade | fairly common error. | 16:10 |
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| openfly | yup | 16:11 |
| openfly | o | 16:11 |
| openfly | err i've seen it before usually when i do something dumb | 16:11 |
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| insanidade | something dumb is what I'm doing - for sure :) | 16:12 |
| insanidade | I'll keep investigating. | 16:12 |
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| ayoung | stevemar, morganfainberg, henrynash I've restarted an old etherpad to collect up the current thinking about Federation https://etherpad.openstack.org/keystone-federation .Think of this more as requirements gathering than blueprints. | 16:15 |
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| stevemar | ayoung: thanks, bookmarking that ;) | 16:22 |
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| ayoung | stevemar, thanks. Set your color if you make and comments, and prepent stemevar: to them, please | 16:23 |
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| stevemar | ayoung: yep, I read your instructions at the top :) | 16:26 |
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| ayoung | stevemar, if you can fill in any answers to the SAML the questions, It wuill help me, and, I suspect, anyone else dealing with SAML in the future | 16:31 |
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| stevemar | ayoung: i wish i knew the answers | 16:32 |
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| luisg | henrynash, do u know how i could get this on the release blocker list for rc1? | 16:33 |
| luisg | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/47208/ | 16:33 |
| jgriffith | mtreinish: thanks for the note on that patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/47954/ | 16:33 |
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| jgriffith | mtreinish: curious why you'd say 1226337 versus 1229496? | 16:33 |
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| ayoung | stevemar, dchadwick is answering. | 16:35 |
| stevemar | ayoung, ruh roh | 16:35 |
| stevemar | ayoung: i feel like i should back pedal on my abfab comment | 16:36 |
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| stevemar | luisg: ping dolphm, he has authority to do that kind of stuff | 16:37 |
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| dolphm | i do what | 16:37 |
| stevemar | add https://bugs.launchpad.net/cinder/+bug/1221808 to keystone rc1 bug list | 16:37 |
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| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1221808 in keystone "some API responses which should be translated when using accept-language header are not" [Undecided,In progress] | 16:37 |
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| stevemar | dolphm ^ | 16:38 |
| dolphm | luisg: i'm not sure that needs to block RC1, but i'd love to have it in RC1 | 16:39 |
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| stevemar | jamielennox: ping | 16:40 |
| ayoung | stevemar, jamielennox is asleep. He's in Australia | 16:40 |
| ayoung | He'll be up for the Keystone meeting at 2 Eastern | 16:41 |
| stevemar | ayoung: i know hes is Oz, but a guy can hope :P | 16:41 |
| ayoung | stevemar, no, I think the abfab comment is legit, but it looks like abfab and SAML will be somewhat integrated in implementation | 16:41 |
| luisg | dolphm, yeah maybe block was not the right term, but it would be good if we could have it there | 16:41 |
| stevemar | ayoung: why would it be integrated in impl? | 16:42 |
| luisg | stevemar, thx | 16:42 |
| stevemar | luisg: np | 16:42 |
| dolphm | morganfainberg: ayoung: review? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/47208/ | 16:42 |
| dolphm | luisg: stevemar: /salute | 16:42 |
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| luisg | dolphm, thx! | 16:44 |
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| henrynash | dolphm, bknudson, morganfainberg: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/46613/ is now hopefully ready to go | 16:45 |
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| dolphm | henrynash: ooh, i hadn't seen bug 1229797 -- cool | 16:45 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1229797 in openstack-ci "cliff 1.4.5 & pyparsing 2.0.1 cause sadness in the gate" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1229797 | 16:46 |
| dolphm | henrynash: (in launchpad) | 16:46 |
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| dolphm | henrynash: +2 | 16:46 |
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| ayoung | henrynash, looking | 16:47 |
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| henrynash | dolphm: thx | 16:48 |
| DeeJay1 | shoudln't we wait with the rechecks until the pypi mirror jobs complete? | 16:49 |
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| ayoung | henrynash, so, we should delete the role first, so that no new role assignments can slip through while this code is processing, but we can't due to referential integrity constraints, right? | 16:51 |
| ayoung | so...if the delete of the role fails due to a race condition, should we re-execute the delete-assignments code? | 16:51 |
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| dolphm | bknudson: you -1'd this before, but chmouel improved the code and dstanek put up some additional tests in a subsequent commit https://review.openstack.org/#/c/45447/ | 16:52 |
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| henrynash | ayoung: so you are correct in terms of integrity constraints | 16:53 |
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| henrynash | ayoung: we could, although if the user tried again it would almost certainly work…so depends if we think we really want to re-execute for that situation…. | 16:54 |
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| ayoung | henrynash, ideally, we would "deactivate the role" before delete | 16:56 |
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| ayoung | henrynash, I think it is a OK as is, with the caveat that, if it fails, the user may want to re-execute the command | 16:57 |
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| ayoung | Just want to make sure I understand the issues. | 16:57 |
| henrynash | ayoung: ok | 16:59 |
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| ayoung | henrynash, your domain optimization is suspect | 17:02 |
| ayoung | henrynash, is that the user's domain or the project's domain referecned on line 230 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/46613/12/keystone/common/controller.py | 17:03 |
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| ayoung | henrynash, domain scoped tokens and project scoped tokens are not necessarily hierarchical. If I lose a role on a domain, it should probably have no effect on project scoped tokens | 17:04 |
| mtreinish | jgriffith: heh, that's actually a bot that jog0 and I have been playing with | 17:05 |
| mtreinish | jgriffith: https://github.com/jogo/elasticRecheck | 17:06 |
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| mtreinish | it's running on my laptop now while we're working on getting it in infra | 17:06 |
| mtreinish | so all the comments it leaves are from me | 17:06 |
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| jgriffith | HA!!! | 17:10 |
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| jgriffith | mtreinish: ^^ | 17:10 |
| jgriffith | mtreinish: well it's fairly good | 17:10 |
| jgriffith | mtreinish: it was VERY close | 17:10 |
| jgriffith | mtreinish: the test case itself was a match | 17:11 |
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| mtreinish | jgriffith: it's using a fixed list of elastic search queries we're using to fingerprint bugs. | 17:13 |
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| jgriffith | mtreinish: that's awesome | 17:14 |
| jgriffith | mtreinish: going to be extremely helpful I think | 17:14 |
| mtreinish | so we find a message in the logs and put in on the list | 17:14 |
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| mtreinish | jgriffith: in this case actually I think 1226337 and 1229496 are dups. 1226337 became the same bug after we made some changes in tempest around timeouts. | 17:15 |
| mtreinish | which is why the fingerprint matches | 17:15 |
| jgriffith | mtreinish: hmmm... indeed, I think you're correct | 17:16 |
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| jgriffith | I didn't dig quite far enough into that second one | 17:16 |
| jgriffith | although the iscsi device not found message seems out of place | 17:17 |
| mtreinish | jgriffith: yeah it should be really useful. Just in the week or so I've been running it it's helped alot and I managed to find a couple new bugs that I would have missed.(from the irc bot on -qa) | 17:18 |
| mtreinish | and hopefully it'll encourage better usage of the the recheck list | 17:18 |
| jgriffith | mtreinish: yeah, even a helpful hint like that should help a lot with the "recheck no bug" habbit :) | 17:18 |
| mtreinish | jgriffith: I actually have a feeling this bug might be related to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/tempest/+bug/1205344 | 17:21 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1205344 in nova "mkfs error in test_stamp_pattern" [Medium,Confirmed] | 17:21 |
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| cburgess | jgriffith: *ping* | 17:36 |
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| morganfainberg | henrynash, looking at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/46613/ now | 17:52 |
| morganfainberg | henrynash, oh looks like i was beaten to it. | 17:53 |
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| henrynash | morganfainberg: no problem, thx | 17:58 |
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| morganfainberg | henrynash, yeah, taking care of some internal bugs/issues the last couple days. | 17:59 |
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| morganfainberg | henrynash, the rest of this week is likely going to be the same. | 17:59 |
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| chmouel | ayoung, dolphm: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/45447/ | 18:19 |
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| chmouel | bknudson:^ | 18:19 |
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| ayoung | chmouel, looks good. Letting the tests run. | 18:20 |
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| dolphm | chmouel: ayoung: thanks for following up! | 18:26 |
| termie | dolphm: g'day sir, do you have a preference for software to spin up cloud instances? | 18:27 |
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| termie | (i haven't been paying attention to which ones are teh current hotness) | 18:27 |
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| dolphm | termie: \o/ | 18:28 |
| termie | dolphm: (would be ideal if it wasn't openstack specific but i'd like it to work there, too) | 18:28 |
| termie | dolphm: how's tricks? | 18:28 |
| dolphm | termie: other than vagrant, not really (there's a decent plugin to use vagrant to spin up on public cloud) | 18:28 |
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| termie | dolphm: hmm, yeah i use vagrant also, though haven't tried it for public cloud stuff | 18:29 |
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| dolphm | termie: https://github.com/mitchellh/vagrant-rackspace | 18:29 |
| dolphm | termie: https://github.com/mitchellh/vagrant-aws | 18:30 |
| dolphm | etcv | 18:30 |
| termie | dolphm: will those successfully assign public IPs? doesn't look like it | 18:30 |
| termie | dolphm: i'm trying to minimize the amount of config that has to be done | 18:31 |
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| dolphm | termie: the rackspace one did, i haven't tried the aws one :P | 18:32 |
| termie | orly? """# __str__ function for DBRow objects. This is done in python because it would | 18:32 |
| termie | # take considerably more effort to implement in C. It's not the most efficient | 18:32 |
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| termie | # way to display DBRows, but quite useful for debugging or inspection. | 18:32 |
| termie | _fmt = u"%s:%s".__mod__ | 18:32 |
| termie | def dbrow_str(row): return "DBRow(" + ','.join(map(_fmt, zip(row.__keys__, row))) + ")" | 18:32 |
| termie | wtf | 18:33 |
| termie | """Networking features in the form of config.vm.network are not supported with vagrant-rackspace, currently. If any of these are specified, Vagrant will emit a warning, but will otherwise boot the Rackspace server.""" | 18:33 |
| termie | wrong copy-pasta | 18:33 |
| termie | too much windowss | 18:33 |
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| dolphm | termie: as i recall, you can't impact rackspace's networking with vagrant options, but rackspace will still give you public and internal IP's by default | 18:34 |
| termie | ohhh | 18:34 |
| termie | so it sounds like anything i do will still have to result in a network query to get the IPs after launch :/ | 18:34 |
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| dolphm | termie: i want to say you should be able to get them back through vagrant? | 18:36 |
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| termie | vishy: hello sir, do you have a favorite way of launching servers and programmatically getting access to them? | 18:38 |
| dprince | jgriffith: I'm hitting issues w/ the chance/simple schedulers as of an hour ago. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/48103/ | 18:38 |
| vishy | broken | 18:38 |
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| termie | ... | 18:39 |
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| vishy | whoever just pinged me i missed it | 18:39 |
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| termie | ishy: hello sir, do you have a favorite way of launching servers and programmatically getting access to them? | 18:39 |
| termie | vishy: ^ | 18:39 |
| termie | vishy: it was mee! | 18:39 |
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| vishy | termie: !! | 18:40 |
| vishy | i don't really get the question | 18:41 |
| vishy | cloudenvy? | 18:41 |
| dolphm | vishy: cloudenvy, etc | 18:41 |
| termie | vishy: like, with vagrant i can define the IPs i want to use ona private network | 18:41 |
| vishy | oh are you talking just local vms? | 18:41 |
| termie | vishy: i'd like to do something similar with public cloud, or at least be given the IPs afterwards | 18:41 |
| termie | vishy: it seems like it involves wrangling floating IPs, or maybe it is more common just to tunnel in and vpn or something | 18:42 |
| dolphm | termie: have not tried it myself http://www.ansibleworks.com/docs/modules.html#id157 | 18:42 |
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| vishy | i guess it depends on the public cloud | 18:43 |
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| dolphm | termie: coming soon to public clouds near you? https://github.com/openstack/heat | 18:43 |
| termie | vishy: well, i'm targeting openstack stuff and aws, the few things i've looked at that seem to deal with any of thsese things are kind of whole frameworks | 18:43 |
| vishy | termie I guess I'm still a little lost | 18:43 |
| vishy | you don't like cloudenvy? | 18:43 |
| termie | whereas i kind of want a "launch some stuff, give me some IPs so i can access them" | 18:43 |
| vishy | i mean why not just use novaclient? | 18:44 |
| termie | i am okay with cloudenvy, i don't know if that is current hotness | 18:44 |
| vishy | jclouds! | 18:44 |
| termie | i am trying to find out what people use :p | 18:44 |
| vishy | you're using the wrong language | 18:44 |
| vishy | :p | 18:44 |
| jgriffith | dprince: what are you seeing? | 18:44 |
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| dprince | jgriffith: the RPC kwargs are hosed. Chance and Simple scheds are busted. | 18:45 |
| dprince | jgriffith: my guess is that we gate *only* on filter sched. | 18:46 |
| jgriffith | dprince: that's correct | 18:46 |
| jgriffith | dprince: k | 18:46 |
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| ayoung | dstanek, option DI is a band aid in this case, but it is also a viable approach to DI. | 18:59 |
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| ayoung | dstanek, in general, yes, you want to abstract away implementation, so instead of saying "this is optional" you say "the default implementation is a no-op" | 18:59 |
| dolphm | dstanek: ah, i guess i was looking for a vote | 18:59 |
| ayoung | hmmm | 19:00 |
| dstanek | ayoung: i think that is only useful when the object graph needs some work | 19:00 |
| ayoung | we could do that...make a no-op oauth impl. | 19:00 |
| bknudson | could the real oauth impl override the default (no-op) oauth impl? | 19:00 |
| ayoung | dstanek, I think you are dead on here. I would not propose this early in the sprint | 19:00 |
| bknudson | would be like a global variable. | 19:00 |
| ayoung | it was an attempt to cut a dependency in a minimally invasive manner | 19:01 |
| dstanek | ayoung: i like that better because it's more "tell don't ask", but still not the ideal | 19:01 |
| ayoung | dstanek, agreed. But the real solution is much more invasive. Make the token provider into a composite object, with oauth a node | 19:01 |
| ayoung | build the token provider out of the paste pipeline | 19:01 |
| ayoung | dstanek, I don't like the annotation approach to DI in the first place. It too tightly couples things to one implementation | 19:02 |
| dstanek | right, that's why i didn't -1 it. i can't provide a useable alternative at this time | 19:02 |
| bknudson | annotation is gross, and it happens at import time, which is also bad. We should have cleaner startup/initialization | 19:03 |
| dstanek | ayoung: i actually like it a lot - i build a framework around the idea | 19:03 |
| ayoung | bknudson, I might be able to do https://review.openstack.org/#/c/46797/ with a default no-op auth provider, but...I am not sure how to override it with the real one. | 19:04 |
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| ayoung | dstanek, nah, annotations are the wrong mechanism. You want to have a deliberate component registration step separate from object definition, otherwise you can't vary up your obejct creation policy. Makes code less reusable | 19:05 |
| ayoung | dstanek, are you fluent in C++? | 19:05 |
| dstanek | ayoung: no, thankfully :-) | 19:05 |
| bknudson | ayoung: I think you would have a global variable, default to the no-op. When import real oauth, reset the global variable. | 19:05 |
| dstanek | ayoung: i meant annotation to describe the expected types | 19:05 |
| dstanek | ayoung: take a look at this test: http://bit.ly/16FMeTT | 19:06 |
| bknudson | ayoung: oauth_provider.set_provider(RealOauthProvider()) | 19:06 |
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| dstanek | a domain object just says "he i need one of these" and the actual mapping of what that means happens somewhere else | 19:07 |
| ayoung | dstanek, ah,,,for the "requires" side..yeah, I think that is ok, but it needs to be augmented by the rest of the application to allow different things to fulfill that dependency | 19:07 |
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| ayoung | dstanek, exactly. | 19:08 |
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| dstanek | ayoung: is my model you create a mapping for each app that maps "interface" to implementation | 19:08 |
| ayoung | dstanek, I started coding one up a while ago https://github.com/admiyo/python-resolver | 19:08 |
| dstanek | it's modeled after Google Guice (a Java framework) | 19:08 |
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| dstanek | ayoung: ah, interesting - i had not seen that before | 19:10 |
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| dstanek | i think the real answer in our case isn't a DI framework, it's for make our objects more composable | 19:11 |
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| dstanek | should the identity LDAP backend allow extra attributes like the SQL backend? | 19:13 |
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| dolphm | #topic extra | 19:15 |
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| insanidade | anyone using devstack ? I do a "git pull" from time to time so that I get updated with its latest code. What do you guys usually do when a ./stack.sh command keeps asking you to resolve code conflicts during its execution? | 19:16 |
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| bknudson | insanidade: is it requirements.txt is conflicting? | 19:17 |
| bknudson | to reset a branch I do git reset --hard | 19:17 |
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| insanidade | bknudson: some files keep conflicing and annoying me during each ./stack.sh. All that I do is to update my local code. I do not contribute to devstack. | 19:18 |
| insanidade | bknudson: some py files. | 19:18 |
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| shel3over | insanidade, try thie git checkout . | 19:21 |
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| dstanek | dolphm: i've been writing tests to learn the system and running into some differences in backend behavior | 19:21 |
| dolphm | dstanek: i like your approach :) | 19:21 |
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| dolphm | dstanek: feel free to report them as bugs, you can even put your patch up as Related-Bug + WIP to illustrate the issue until it's understood | 19:22 |
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| dstanek | dolphm: i think i will create a bug to get more clarification | 19:35 |
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| insanida1e | why isn't git pull updating my local code ? It keeps asking me to resolve conflicts during a stack.sh run. I'd like to accept all code changes from remote but it keeps asking before merging things I haven't even changed. | 19:37 |
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| dstanek | insanida1e: did you make any local changes? | 19:38 |
| insanida1e | dstanek: very few, just for debugging purposes - added a few breakpoints. but it is asking me to confirm changes I have not peformed. I just need it to update my local code. It isn't even asking me to resolve conflicts on the files I've added some breakpoints. | 19:40 |
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| dstanek | insanida1e: i think there is some funky business in the requirements.txt when installing...what file has the conflicts? | 19:41 |
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| insanida1e | I don't remember the file names right now. I just erased the terminal screen. But are files from neutron, glance, etc. Not many files, but some weird stuff is happening in horizon's log screen and I'd like to have devstack absolutely clean so that I could investigate that horizon error. | 19:42 |
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| dstanek | insanida1e: the easiest way to fix it to remove all of the changes from your working copy - 'git reset --hard HEAD' should do the trick, but it will erase all of your local changes too | 19:44 |
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| insanida1e | dstanek: no important changes would be lost. I will do it. | 19:46 |
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| insanida1e | dstanek: no idea what is going on. it keeps asking me to resolve conflicts. I have even removed ALL source files. | 19:50 |
| insanida1e | dstanek: http://paste.openstack.org/show/47452/ | 19:50 |
| insanida1e | dstanek: this keeps poping up during a stack.sh | 19:51 |
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| insanida1e | looks like there are some files in /tmp | 19:53 |
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| dolphm | morganfainberg: stevemar: did ya'll figure out the test failure stevemar was having yesterday? | 19:54 |
| stevemar | dolphm: yep | 19:54 |
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| dolphm | stevemar: was there a fix / workaround? | 19:54 |
| stevemar | dolphm: we nuked everything that was not checked into git | 19:54 |
| stevemar | dolphm: git clean -fdx | 19:54 |
| dolphm | stevemar: oh okay, that's not exciting | 19:55 |
| dolphm | stevemar: thanks! | 19:55 |
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| stevemar | dolphm: not everything we do in keystone has to be exciting :P | 19:55 |
| stevemar | dolphm: i believe thats your platform as PTL | 19:56 |
| dolphm | stevemar: haha | 19:56 |
| dolphm | stevemar: +1 auth should be stable and boring | 19:56 |
| tsufiev_ | gabrielhurley, could you please take a look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/45655/ ? | 19:57 |
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| dstanek | insanida1e: is that diff from after you reset the cinderclient? | 19:58 |
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| gabrielhurley | tsufiev: approved. thanks | 19:59 |
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| vishnoianil | Hi | 19:59 |
| stevemar | ayoung: updated https://etherpad.openstack.org/keystone-federation a bit | 20:00 |
| tsufiev_ | gabrielhurley, thanks to you too :) | 20:00 |
| vishnoianil | i have a query about lbass support in openstack | 20:00 |
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| insanida1e | dstanek: uh...don't know that you are talking about. what cinderclient reset ? | 20:01 |
| vishnoianil | do all the available neutron plugin support lbaas APIs? like floodlight/ryu ? | 20:01 |
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| ayoung | stevemar, thanks | 20:02 |
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| notmyname | anteaya: I've been busy with some more pressing things. I'll be working on my swift ptl email after the IRC meetings today | 20:15 |
| anteaya | notmyname: I look forward to confirming your candidacy | 20:15 |
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| bknudson | dolphm: you ok with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/45755/ going in H? | 20:16 |
| dolphm | bknudson: yes | 20:16 |
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| dolphm | bknudson: no approve? | 20:22 |
| bknudson | dolphm: testing locally. | 20:22 |
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| dolphm | bknudson: ah, cool | 20:24 |
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| bknudson | dolphm: so looks like there's a regression, since now it doesn't check bin/ | 20:25 |
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| dolphm | bknudson: uh oh, is it checking keystone then? | 20:26 |
| dolphm | bknudson: i swear i tested this both ways | 20:26 |
| dolphm | bknudson: bin/ isn't on the exclude list obviously | 20:27 |
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| morganfainberg | hrm. | 20:32 |
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| bknudson | dolphm: here's the ouput with the change to tox.ini, it's checking keystone/ -- http://paste.openstack.org/show/47456/ | 20:34 |
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| bknudson | dolphm: here's master output: http://paste.openstack.org/show/47457/ -- also finds bin/ | 20:36 |
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| insanida1e | anyone: if a change a .py file under folder horizon/openstack_dashboard, what service should I restart to have that file revisited and its pyc created ? | 20:42 |
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| gabrielhurley | insanida1e: your webserver process, whether that's apache or nginx or the built-in django dev webserver | 20:48 |
| bknudson | dolphm: I think it's the --filename=keystone* , tells flake8 to also look at keystone-all and keystone-manage | 20:48 |
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| dolphm | bknudson: marked as WIP | 20:59 |
| dolphm | bknudson: thanks for testing, i'll give it another pass | 20:59 |
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| bknudson | dolphm: I'll upload my fix. | 20:59 |
| bknudson | dolphm: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/45755/ | 21:00 |
| bknudson | There's some files called keystone-*.ini | 21:00 |
| dolphm | bknudson: that covers bin/? | 21:00 |
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| bknudson | dolphm: bin isn't excluded, and now files with names like keystone-* are included | 21:01 |
| dolphm | bknudson: what about bin/something ? | 21:01 |
| bknudson | dolphm: bin/something wouldn't match. | 21:01 |
| bknudson | that would not have matched previously either. | 21:02 |
| dolphm | bknudson: it's have to be bin/keystone-something or bin/something.py ? | 21:02 |
| bknudson | dolphm: yes. | 21:02 |
| dolphm | bknudson: but 'bin' was explicitly included before | 21:02 |
| bknudson | dolphm: it did flake8 ; flake8 --filename=keystone* bin | 21:03 |
| bknudson | so flake8 would catch bin/*.py | 21:03 |
| bknudson | "flake8 --filename=keystone* bin" would catch bin/keystone* | 21:03 |
| dolphm | bknudson: oooh, i was reading it as --filename=keystone*,bin | 21:03 |
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| dolphm | bknudson: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/48031/ | 21:06 |
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| bknudson | dolphm: 48031 is approved | 21:08 |
| dolphm | bknudson: ty | 21:08 |
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| bknudson | dolphm: what's the keystone version for H? 2013.2 (was thinking about https://github.com/openstack/keystone/blob/master/doc/source/man/keystone-all.rst ) | 21:09 |
| bknudson | 2013.2? | 21:09 |
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| dolphm | bknudson: 2013.2 will be havana for all openstack projects, yes | 21:10 |
| dolphm | bknudson: grizzly was 2013.1 | 21:10 |
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| gyee | dolphm, ayoung, you guys working on this one? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/48111/ | 21:20 |
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| dolphm | gyee: sort of, i haven't dug in too deep | 21:21 |
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| gyee | k, I am looking at the test failures now | 21:21 |
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| dolphm | gyee: it looks like keystone/policy/backends/rules.py needs some changes -- i don't know how extensive | 21:22 |
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| gyee | k | 21:22 |
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| arosen1 | zul: ping | 21:42 |
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| arosen1 | zul: I was looking on here (https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-cloud-archive) and I didn't see any updated packaging for quantum->neutron . Just curious if i'm looking in the right place. | 21:44 |
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| luisg | bnemec, just fyi i updated the message based on ur comment thx | 21:48 |
| bnemec | luisg: Thanks, I'll take another look. | 21:49 |
| luisg | ty | 21:49 |
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| zul | arosen: its there | 21:57 |
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| zul | arosen: http://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-server-dev | 21:57 |
| arosen1 | zul: awesome thanks :) | 21:58 |
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| morganfainberg | ayoung, bknudson, re: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/46363/ (optional deps), I'll upgrade to a +2 if you think this really is going to get cleaned up in Icehouse | 22:21 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung,bknudson, I wish we had an alternative. but i don't see anything inherently wrong with the implemenation. | 22:21 |
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| jgriffith | cburgess: you were looking for me last night weren't you? | 23:31 |
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| morganfainberg | jgriffith, he was, and he just stepped off into a meeting (timing is fun like that huh) | 23:31 |
| jgriffith | morganfainberg: HA! | 23:32 |
| jgriffith | too funny | 23:32 |
| morganfainberg | jgriffith, this was regarding NFS backend and brick not being segment aware in some cases | 23:32 |
| morganfainberg | jgriffith, he has more details, but it appears that some of the previously-segment-aware config options are now no longer segment configuration aware | 23:32 |
| morganfainberg | jgriffith, and global | 23:33 |
| morganfainberg | options that is | 23:33 |
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| jgriffith | morganfainberg: well, there's been a ton of hacking on the NFS stuff | 23:33 |
| morganfainberg | jgriffith, i know, i am not 100% sure what the specifics in this case ends up being (i'm off in the land of identity service). i just know that was the gist of the conversation. i'll see if i can dig up the information before his meeting is out | 23:34 |
| jgriffith | sdague: any ideas why your "git show --oneline" drops into a git diff on devstack? | 23:34 |
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| jgriffith | morganfainberg: sure... or I'll make absolutely certain to connect with him tonight :) | 23:35 |
| morganfainberg | jgriffith, sounds good. | 23:35 |
| jgriffith | sdague: http://paste.openstack.org/show/47461/ | 23:37 |
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| jgriffith | cburgess: I'll be back in a bit and catch up with you | 23:42 |
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| ayoung | morganfainberg, just pushed the optional dependency and the oauth patches | 23:52 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, sounds good. | 23:52 |
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| ayoung | morganfainberg, so for certificates in general, I am thinking we should use certmonger https://fedorahosted.org/certmonger/ and for devstack, that should talk to cermaster https://fedorahosted.org/certmaster/ | 23:54 |
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| ayoung | I am wondering if certmaster should be the heart of Barbican's X509 code | 23:55 |
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| morganfainberg | ayoung, that could be a nice approach since it does provide a good chunk of functionality | 23:56 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, certmonger and certmaster for devstack def. seems like a reasonable approach *reading the docs atm* | 23:56 |
| ayoung | morganfainberg, cool | 23:56 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, i might need to co-opt certmonger and certmaster for internal usage | 23:57 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, in fact… i'm pretty sure these would fill a nice need i have for my non-openstack-specific cert needs | 23:58 |
| ayoung | jamielennox, talked with nalin a bit earlier today about certmonger and certmaster....it looks like , while cert monger won;t create a directory for you, it will do everything else: create the pem files or nss database if required | 23:58 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, thanks for the links! :) | 23:58 |
| ayoung | morganfainberg, so...certmaster is a toy...what your really want is Dogtag. | 23:58 |
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| ayoung | http://pki.fedoraproject.org/wiki/PKI_Main_Page | 23:59 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, i'm in need for managing a very simple CA for vpn purposes. | 23:59 |
| ayoung | morganfainberg, and certmonger knows how to talk to dogtag | 23:59 |
| morganfainberg | a toy (until i can convince the use of dogtag or something more robust) is likely better than running commands by hand to generate the certs. | 23:59 |
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| ayoung | morganfainberg, just so long as you are aware...and if we pull certmonger into the 'stack family, it might not be a toy for much longer | 23:59 |
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