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| ayoung | jamielennox, can you see https://adam.younglogic.com/wp-admin/post.php?post=2765&action=edit&message=10 | 00:20 |
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| jamielennox | https validate failure, i get a wordpress login - sure that was supposed to be a public message? | 00:21 |
| ayoung | jamielennox, just sent you it via email | 00:22 |
| ayoung | jamielennox, public is fine..it is just a request for you to take a look at a blog post before I make it public | 00:22 |
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| ayoung | jamielennox, sent to you RH email... | 00:22 |
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| jamielennox | ayoung, ok interesting | 00:26 |
| ayoung | jamielennox, I have my internal rseolv.conf pointed at the IPA instance there. Now when I create a VM, I get a DNS entry that I can use to SSH to it. | 00:27 |
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| jamielennox | race condition for the floating ip, but i assume that can't be helped | 00:29 |
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| ayoung | jamielennox, yeah | 00:29 |
| ayoung | jamielennox, could also do an allocate new and use that one, then free them up when you delete vms | 00:30 |
| ayoung | I need to add a page about clean up...you want to delete the host from IPA using the option that does the DNS cleanup, too, or you can't reuse the IP addresses | 00:30 |
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| jamielennox | so is this the kind of integration you're expecting with devstack? | 00:31 |
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| ayoung | jamielennox, yeah | 00:33 |
| ayoung | jamielennox, although, I think that this approach is standalone useful\ | 00:33 |
| ayoung | you get DNSaaS for free | 00:33 |
| ayoung | SSO, | 00:33 |
| ayoung | of, for devstack, the centralized sudo works | 00:33 |
| jamielennox | you have namesserver hardcoded | 00:34 |
| ayoung | correction..I added ayoung to the wheel group, modified the sudoers file, and it works for | 00:34 |
| jamielennox | int | 00:34 |
| jamielennox | nit | 00:34 |
| ayoung | devstack | 00:34 |
| ayoung | jamielennox, ah..yeah, that needs to be an env var...OK | 00:34 |
| jamielennox | i think the order would have to change a little for devstack, but cool | 00:36 |
| ayoung | this is a way to kick off a vm...for devstack...we're talking more about the undercloud | 00:36 |
| ayoung | jamielennox, the thing that is apparent, though, is that we would be better off with some tie in direct to nova | 00:37 |
| ayoung | doing the user-data thing seems to be a bit of a one off, and dleeting the VM should also clean up in the ipa server | 00:37 |
| jamielennox | you think? it would be nice if the interface was a bit cleaner but i don't think nova should know this stuff | 00:38 |
| ayoung | But this is just a shot across the bow...this needs to mature before it will be useable in production | 00:38 |
| ayoung | Horizon should....better than the Keypair approach to security | 00:38 |
| jamielennox | for example it would be nice if you could tell nova to just grab a floating ip from the pool and assign it to your vm and return it later | 00:38 |
| ayoung | +1 | 00:39 |
| jamielennox | but i don't think nova should be in the business of managing the vm it creates | 00:39 |
| jamielennox | ahh, the runtime | 00:39 |
| jamielennox | as in boot the new vm then stay out of the vm's userspace | 00:39 |
| jamielennox | the little bit that it does now always bites me, eg it keeps messing with /etc/ssh/sshd_config and breaking it | 00:40 |
| ayoung | Well, if it doesn't then you end up wioth two syustems, and someone needs to come by and make a wrapper utility like this. | 00:40 |
| ayoung | jamielennox, the deployments need to be customizable. | 00:41 |
| jamielennox | maybe integration with cloud-init (though i'm not sure where that applies) | 00:41 |
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| ayoung | the other thing that I am not doing here is registering the host with a host group. I think that I would probably make each project into a hostgroup, and put the new host into that for policy management | 00:41 |
| jamielennox | does ipa verify the IP for the host when it registeres? | 00:42 |
| ayoung | cloud-init is a file that is run on a per vm basis. But you can see here that I need to autogenerate it using the Heredoc in order to replace the values for the OTP at a minimum. That doesn't work from Horizon, either | 00:42 |
| jamielennox | +1, project == hostgroup | 00:42 |
| ayoung | jamielennox, yeah, you can tell it to create the host with out an IP, but it is an addiotion '--force' flag | 00:43 |
| jamielennox | horizon can specify a startup script, though it's not exactly a nice way of doing things | 00:43 |
| ayoung | it does the reverse lookup, too | 00:43 |
| jamielennox | i meant more that i would have thought that the ip that the new vm will connect from will be the private ip not the floating ip | 00:43 |
| ayoung | jamielennox, right, so if you want to make something that end users can use, we need Horizon, and nova, to allow plugging in actions upon VM creation | 00:43 |
| ayoung | ah...no, you want the public IP, if you plan on logging into this machine from outside the cloud | 00:44 |
| jamielennox | yea, i get that - but it would appear that IPA lets you do a host-add, then a ipa-client-install from different ips | 00:44 |
| ayoung | otherwise you need to do additional work to add a DNS entry once you create the floating IP, or you can't reference the new VM. THis approach gives you DNSaaS integrated | 00:45 |
| ayoung | yeah ipa-client-install just cares that the OTP is set, and that the hostname matches | 00:45 |
| jamielennox | ok, that was my question | 00:45 |
| ayoung | jamielennox, so I am doing secure uuids for OTPs | 00:46 |
| ayoung | same approach that devstack takes. uuid -r = "generate randomly" | 00:46 |
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| ayoung | it would be nice if I didn't have to do the yum install. If the freeipa package was already in the image, this would be smoking fast | 00:47 |
| jamielennox | would it make sense to do client registration as a post build operation? | 00:47 |
| jamielennox | for example horizon build the vm, then have a horizon action that says register these into IPA? | 00:47 |
| ayoung | you mean from the same machine that is doing the nova and ipa commands? Can't, due to ssh issues. No way to execute commands as root. | 00:48 |
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| jamielennox | ah, of course | 00:48 |
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| ayoung | user-data does not have to be a shell script. There are puppet, chef, and other formats as well. | 00:49 |
| ayoung | jamielennox, it also would be cleaner with DHCP integration...shouldn't have to set /etc/resolv.conf... | 00:49 |
| jamielennox | same problem though right, one of those will have to be on the image and configured and let you drop the config in | 00:50 |
| ayoung | jamielennox, anyway, does the blog post look good? I'd like to publish it tonight. | 00:50 |
| jamielennox | but still this sounds like more of a first boot configuration than a nova integration | 00:50 |
| ayoung | user-data is the right tool for this kind of stuff, I think that is even how the keys are done...cloud-init | 00:50 |
| jamielennox | looks ok to me but somebody else must approve | 00:52 |
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| jamielennox | it's in category uncategorized | 00:52 |
| jamielennox | as you say it's not a production strategy but it's a good start and a good reference | 00:52 |
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| ayoung | Updated the category...thanks | 00:53 |
| jamielennox | haven't run it yet, but as i said i'm going to do some devstack stuff so i will | 00:53 |
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| ayoung | jamielennox, just did a little addendum to address cleaning up. Refresh and you should see it. | 00:56 |
| jamielennox | looks good | 00:57 |
| ayoung | jamielennox, if you add the FreeIPA servers public IP address to your resolv.conf, you cn see all of the machines registered. I have on, ayoung-portal, that I am making home-dirs on to be able to run this script on. You need to have the ipa client in order for the script to run | 00:57 |
| ayoung | er...the machine needs to be an ipa client. rcrit and I were trying to work around that on Friday | 00:58 |
| jamielennox | to run the script? | 00:58 |
| ayoung | yeah | 00:59 |
| ayoung | jamielennox, to do the IPA steps | 00:59 |
| ayoung | creating the host and such | 00:59 |
| jamielennox | yea, ok - ipa host-add isn't authentciated | 00:59 |
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| jamielennox | so it must be a client - i'll need to setup a new vm to test it then | 01:00 |
| ayoung | jamielennox, still working through the details here...something is wonky with this IPA install | 01:00 |
| ayoung | I can;t use GSSAPI to ssh into the vms | 01:00 |
| ayoung | and right now, I can't do a user-find even though I just did a kinit...telling me ticket is expired. I think I have ntp problems | 01:00 |
| ayoung | I have the ntp port open on the ipa server, and on the security group | 01:01 |
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| ayoung | jamielennox, you should have a user on the ipa server...let me confirm | 01:09 |
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| fandikurnia01 | hello | 01:57 |
| fandikurnia01 | how to bond interface, if we are using puppet and cobbler | 01:57 |
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| fandikurnia01 | someone already using bond interface for their production site? | 01:57 |
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| gongysh__ | EmilienM ping | 06:48 |
| EmilienM | gongysh__: pong | 06:48 |
| EmilienM | finally ! | 06:48 |
| gongysh__ | yeah | 06:51 |
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| gongysh__ | EmilienM: Do u have time read my google doc, and answer some questions there? | 06:52 |
| EmilienM | gongysh__: sure, it's actually on my todo for this morning :) | 06:52 |
| gongysh__ | https://docs.google.com/document/d/1D49wg2gbWWvV83IYL4N9ctWgBS3tZGuH_4IAk8i4CBc/edit | 06:53 |
| gongysh__ | what is the time on your side? it is 14:53 my local time. | 06:54 |
| EmilienM | it's 09:53 am here | 06:54 |
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| EmilienM | gongysh__: unicast_peer is implemented in last keepalived release. We are investigating if it's relevant to use unicast | 06:54 |
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| gongysh__ | EmilienM: virtual_router_id 20 # This id needs careful arrangement since we cannot get it duplicated in a LAN. In additions, we have only 254 ids, which will become the limitations. Am I right? | 06:55 |
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| EmilienM | gongysh__: I'm note sure, since we run it within namespace :) | 06:56 |
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| gongysh__ | EmilienM: I need to investigate if the VIP's package will have the virtual MAC as source MAC address, which is calculated with virtual router ID. | 06:58 |
| ekarlso- | yo EmilienM | 06:59 |
| gongysh__ | EmilienM: one more question is about the waste of IP addresses. The qg-xx IPs and the qr-xx IPs. | 07:00 |
| EmilienM | gongysh__: let me see this question | 07:00 |
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| EmilienM | gongysh__: why do you waste ? | 07:01 |
| EmilienM | gongysh__: both qg-xx and qr-xx are floating | 07:02 |
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| EmilienM | gongysh__: in my proposal, those ip are managed by keepalived, so I'm not sure if we need to waste other ip | 07:03 |
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| gongysh__ | EmilienM: "neutron router-gateway-set router public_net" will add an IP from public_net to qg-xxx. | 07:06 |
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| EmilienM | gongysh__: sure, and the idea is to modify l3 agent to let keepalived manage this IP. Make sense ? | 07:07 |
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| gongysh__ | EmilienM: what is your idea about "modifying the l3 agent"? | 07:08 |
| EmilienM | gongysh__: i haven't a fixed idea right now since it's still under discussion, but we will for sure have to modify the l3 agent behavior | 07:09 |
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| gongysh__ | EmilienM: yes, but I think we have to come up with an feasible idea about 'modifying the l3 agent' before we go to the summit. | 07:11 |
| gongysh__ | EmilienM: with the idea in mind and even written out, the communication will be more effective. | 07:11 |
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| gongysh__ | EmilienM: the VIP for qg-xx must be from neutron public network, right? | 07:13 |
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| EmilienM | gongysh__: sure. | 07:13 |
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| gongysh__ | EmilienM: vrrp_instance fw-cluster-qg-xxx { | 07:15 |
| gongysh__ | state MASTER | 07:15 |
| gongysh__ | interface qg-xxx | 07:15 |
| gongysh__ | virtual_router_id 20 | 07:15 |
| gongysh__ | priority 100 | 07:15 |
| gongysh__ | virtual_ipaddress { | 07:15 |
| gongysh__ | 192.168.0.1/24 brd 192.168.0.255 dev qg-xxx | 07:15 |
| gongysh__ | } | 07:15 |
| gongysh__ | } | 07:15 |
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| gongysh__ | Let us assume the VIP is 192.168.0.1. | 07:15 |
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| EmilienM | yep | 07:16 |
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| gongysh__ | the qg-xxx on both vrrp sides (A,B) should also have IPs, right? | 07:17 |
| EmilienM | gongysh__: why ? | 07:18 |
| gongysh__ | EmilienM: Don't they need to communicate with each other to participate the VRRP? | 07:19 |
| EmilienM | gongysh__: we were thinking about a dedicated namespace for service | 07:20 |
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| EmilienM | gongysh__: we don't want to waste any ip address, both in north & south | 07:21 |
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| gongysh__ | EmilienM: I am lost here with your namespace usage. How to use it in your solution? | 07:23 |
| gongysh__ | EmilienM: in general keepalived deployment, I need an IP1 on qg-xxx for node a, and an IP2 on qg-xxx for node b, one vip IP3 which floats between node a and b. | 07:24 |
| EmilienM | gongysh__: in our lab, we created a namespace in west & east for service messages (VRRP, conntrackd messages, etc) | 07:24 |
| EmilienM | gongysh__: yeah I know, but here we don't want to loose IP :) | 07:24 |
| EmilienM | gongysh__: again, maybe I'm wrong, if you have a better solution, I would be happy | 07:25 |
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| gongysh__ | EmilienM: I just want a feasible solution for neutron. I am curious about your usage with namespace. and If you can write out your solution, I think it will be a good one for the L3 issue. | 07:28 |
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| gongysh__ | EmilienM: many guys are hoping we have a HA solution for L3 HA. | 07:29 |
| gongysh__ | EmilienM: by we, I mean neutron. | 07:29 |
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| EmilienM | gongysh__: yep, i see | 07:40 |
| EmilienM | gongysh__: imo, tenant should NOT be able to see vrrp traffic. that's why dedicated namespace | 07:41 |
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| gongysh__ | EmilienM: How does tenant see the vrrp traffic, and how he is not be able to see the traffic when we use dedicated namespace? | 07:44 |
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| EmilienM | gongysh__: i can see 2 solution : | 07:45 |
| EmilienM | gongysh__: 1) use tenant ns for vrrp, we waste a ip, and tenant could see vrrp traffic with network inspection tools | 07:45 |
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| EmilienM | gongysh__: 2) create a dedicated ns for vrrp (used by all q-routers ns on l3-agent node) | 07:46 |
| EmilienM | in 2), i can't see how tenant would be able to see traffic | 07:46 |
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| EmilienM | gongysh__: what do you think about that ? | 07:52 |
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| EmilienM | gongysh__: i'm working on that with safchain by the way | 07:53 |
| safchain | gongysh__, hi | 07:53 |
| gongysh__ | EmilienM: I am thinking about it. | 07:53 |
| gongysh__ | safchain: hi | 07:53 |
| EmilienM | sure, take your time ! :) | 07:53 |
| gongysh__ | EmilienM: I just cannot imagine how to configure keepalived and ovs to implement your solution. | 07:54 |
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| EmilienM | gongysh__: we actually made a bash script to create all the workflow (ns + vrrp with keepalived + tcp session maintained by conntrackd), and it works. we investigating on small issues but concept works for both linux bridge & ovs | 07:56 |
| gongysh__ | EmilientM: can u introduce me about how to run keepalived and ovs for your solution. | 07:56 |
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| gongysh__ | EmilienM: that's great if you can show me the bash script. | 07:57 |
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| EmilienM | gongysh__: of course | 07:58 |
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| gongysh__ | EmilienM: terrific | 07:58 |
| EmilienM | gongysh__: one sec | 07:59 |
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| EmilienM | gongysh__: https://gist.github.com/EmilienM/6577792 | 08:02 |
| EmilienM | gongysh__: it's really a poc :) | 08:02 |
| gongysh__ | EmilienM: got it. the code is beautiful even it is just a poc. | 08:03 |
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| EmilienM | \o/ | 08:05 |
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| chandankumar | hello | 08:18 |
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| chandankumar | i am have installed devstack on fedora 18. | 08:18 |
| chandankumar | i have followed following steps to do installation: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/OpenStack_devstack | 08:18 |
| chandankumar | when i was booting the instance , i have got status: error | 08:19 |
| chandankumar | these are following things i have done : http://fpaste.org/39797/13793195/ | 08:20 |
| chandankumar | how can fix this STATUS to active? | 08:20 |
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| safchain | gongysh__, here is the diagram related to the bash script, http://paste.openstack.org/show/47103/ | 08:34 |
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| gongysh__ | safchain: great | 08:36 |
| gongysh__ | safchain: I am just drawing it myself. | 08:36 |
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| safchain | gongysh__, we just added two ns in order to simulate wan / lan | 08:37 |
| chandankumar | on each time i am booting i am getting status Error | 08:38 |
| chandankumar | . How can i solve it? | 08:38 |
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| gongysh__ | safchain, EmilienM, I have read it. | 08:55 |
| gongysh__ | one point: you are doing vrrp vip via third-party interface. | 08:56 |
| safchain | gongysh__, just to check the state of the connection | 08:56 |
| gongysh__ | I mean the floating ip is on qg-xxx, but we are tracking qa-xx interface. | 08:57 |
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| safchain | gongysh__, yes, we are tracking the qa-xx interface to check if we still have a connection between two l3 agent | 08:58 |
| gongysh__ | safchain: if tracking the third party interface is ok to community, we also need to manage the IPs assigned to qa-xxx interface. | 08:59 |
| safchain | gongysh__, yes probably | 08:59 |
| safchain | gongysh__, by the way, what do you think about this first design/poc ? | 09:00 |
| EmilienM | safchain: gongysh__ sorry, I was afk | 09:01 |
| gongysh__ | safchain: I think it is good. | 09:01 |
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| safchain | gongysh__, as EmilienM said we still have some issues, so we need to investigate a bit more | 09:02 |
| gongysh__ | such as? | 09:03 |
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| safchain | gongysh__, with tcp session maintained by conntrackd, sometimes it fails | 09:04 |
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| safchain | gongysh__, and we also need to test with two "real" l3 agents, not only with namespaces | 09:05 |
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| gongysh__ | bad, isn't conntrackd used to do it? is it failing to its promise?! | 09:06 |
| gongysh__ | safchain: Do u want to write code to do poc on real L3? | 09:06 |
| safchain | gongysh__, yes the tcp connection issue seems to come from conntrackd, but we didn't investigate a lot | 09:07 |
| gongysh__ | safchain: I see in the bash script, you are using a notify bash to add all of the floating ip, and iptables rules once the backup is a master. | 09:08 |
| safchain | gongysh__, yes the notify script is used in order to add nat rules | 09:09 |
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| gongysh__ | safchain: I am concerned about the performance, i.e. the downtime before we can bring up a l3 agent. | 09:09 |
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| safchain | gongysh__, agree, we need to do some tests/benchmarks | 09:10 |
| gongysh__ | safchain: do u want me to help with anything during the process? | 09:11 |
| gongysh__ | safchain: tcp failure due to the conntrackd's failure to its promise, how to manage the qa-xxx's IPs, the quick bring up of back l3 agent | 09:12 |
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| safchain | gongysh__, of course, for your help, great ! | 09:13 |
| gongysh__ | safchain: that is the points we need to take care with the solution. | 09:13 |
| safchain | gongysh__, totaly agree with you, that's the next point we want to investigate with EmilienM | 09:13 |
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| safchain | gongysh__, we are going to work on the conntrackd failure in the few next days | 09:17 |
| gongysh__ | safchain: find, I will also have a look at it. | 09:17 |
| gongysh__ | find -> fine | 09:17 |
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| EmilienM | gongysh__: thx for your help ! | 09:17 |
| safchain | gongysh__, great thx for you help ! | 09:17 |
| safchain | you -> your | 09:18 |
| gongysh__ | EmilienM safchain, thanks for the nice bash. the idea is great. | 09:18 |
| gongysh__ | I will try to write a more detailed solution based on that bash and our discussion | 09:19 |
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| gongysh__ | and then we can have more discussion. | 09:20 |
| EmilienM | sure | 09:20 |
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| sandywalsh | :) | 14:04 |
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| sandywalsh | Hey!, I'm doing a report card on oslo.notification usage in the various openstack projects. I see that Marconi doesn't support them yet and was wondering what the plans were? | 14:04 |
| sandywalsh | (likewise with oslo usage in general) | 14:04 |
| sandywalsh | I mean, ideally, at some point we should be using marconi as the notification tool, but in the meanwhile ... | 14:05 |
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| flaper87 | sandywalsh: agreed, so, adding oslo.notifications to Marconi is in our roadmap, I'm assuming that will happen for Icehose. With that we're planning to emit notifications for every operation so we can integrate better with ceilo | 14:06 |
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| sandywalsh | excellent ... that's great to hear. I'll put a comment in the report to highlight that. | 14:06 |
| alexxu | hi, guys, would you like help me review this patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/41349/, it got FFE and already got one +2, actually it already approved previously, just conflict after rebase. i will appreciate any review! | 14:08 |
| flaper87 | sandywalsh: awesome, thanks a lot! | 14:08 |
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| shardy | sandywalsh: hi | 16:36 |
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| sandywalsh | shardy: hey! quick question ... wondering if Heat will be supporting oslo notifications in Icehouse? | 16:37 |
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| sandywalsh | shardy: it would be very handy for ceilometer | 16:37 |
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| shardy | sandywalsh: Sounds like something we should look into | 16:40 |
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| shardy | sandywalsh: Can you raise a Heat BP with a much detail as possible, describing how you see Heat integrating with the functionality? | 16:40 |
| sandywalsh | shardy: cool ... I'm just doing up a report card for notification support in all the projects and would like to be able to say that Heat is behind it. | 16:41 |
| sandywalsh | shardy: will do ... the report card will explain how notifications should be supported in detail | 16:41 |
| shardy | sandywalsh: atm I'm not that clear where we'd use it, as I assume it's not intended for user-facing messaging (ie like marconi) | 16:41 |
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| sandywalsh | shardy: correct ... unless there are billable events | 16:41 |
| shardy | sandywalsh: Do you see it as an alternative to the Ceilometer->Heat webhook notification we currently use? | 16:41 |
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| sandywalsh | shardy: yeah, it's a different mechanism. Since there are likely billable events, we need to ensure things don't get lost if the target system is unavailable | 16:42 |
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| sandywalsh | shardy: most services are still HTTP -> HTTP for interop (until TaskFlow is available), this is for monitoring/billing/etc | 16:43 |
| harlowja | sandywalsh pong | 16:43 |
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| sandywalsh | hey harlowja! Same question I've been asking everyone. Looking for your plans for Oslo support in TaskFlow and oslo notification support in icehouse? | 16:44 |
| shardy | sandywalsh: One thing is, atm we're keen to stick with the webhook signal interface, as it provides more flexibility in terms of e.g some other service or application signalling heat (all they need is the pre-signed URL) | 16:44 |
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| harlowja | oslo support in taskflow means? :-P | 16:44 |
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| sandywalsh | harlowja: 1. using the oslo common library (rpc, notifications, etc) ... and specifically 2. using the notifications for ceilometer, etc integration | 16:45 |
| sandywalsh | shardy: that's fine. Most systems use http for interop. This is for monitoring/billing/etc | 16:46 |
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| shardy | sandywalsh: Ok, well we can discuss further when you've raised the BP ;) | 16:46 |
| harlowja | sandywalsh still not sure i understand, taskflow u can imagine doesn't really have an rpc system, the piece of taskflow that is running on celery u could say does, but the other piece doesn't, is that what u mean? | 16:46 |
| sandywalsh | shardy: That said, I can foresee Ceilometer handling the webhook calls at some point. Distribution center, but that's a larger topic. | 16:47 |
| sandywalsh | shardy: I'll get the BP in place | 16:47 |
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| sandywalsh | harlowja: right, the notifications are the big thing. Getting an event on state transitions, timeouts, errors, etc would be very important to ceilometer and monitoring | 16:47 |
| harlowja | sure | 16:48 |
| sandywalsh | harlowja: so, can I put you down for "planned for icehouse"? | 16:48 |
| harlowja | so there is https://blueprints.launchpad.net/taskflow/+spec/builtin-metric , that is sort of similar | 16:48 |
| harlowja | although i'm not sure if oslo.notifications makes sense there | 16:48 |
| harlowja | since the oslo-incubator notifier still looks like its in oslo-incubator | 16:49 |
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| harlowja | and i don't really want to pull any of oslo-incubator in that is dependent on oslo.cfg | 16:49 |
| sandywalsh | well oslo incubator is oslo common | 16:49 |
| sandywalsh | ah, I see your concern | 16:49 |
| harlowja | ya, if taskflow sucks in anything that touches oslo.cfg it then forces people to use oslo.cfg, oslo.cfg not library-compatiable imho | 16:50 |
| sandywalsh | so, you'd want the oslo adoption easier | 16:50 |
| harlowja | oslo.cfg is good for applications, but not for libraries | 16:50 |
| sandywalsh | like a regular pypi library | 16:50 |
| harlowja | ya | 16:50 |
| harlowja | taskflow is also a library | 16:50 |
| sandywalsh | cool ... totally makes sense | 16:50 |
| sandywalsh | yep | 16:51 |
| sandywalsh | I'll bring that up with the oslo guys | 16:51 |
| harlowja | ya, i think its known | 16:51 |
| sandywalsh | :) yep | 16:51 |
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| sandywalsh | k, stay tuned ... I'll try and some answers and put them in the summary. | 16:51 |
| harlowja | k | 16:51 |
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| sandywalsh | harlowja: actually, the notification stuff has been stable for a long time. It's available in the oslo that's on pypi. | 17:01 |
| harlowja | which pypi package is that in? | 17:02 |
| sandywalsh | lemme find the link | 17:02 |
| harlowja | thx | 17:02 |
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| sandywalsh | harlowja: hmm, I may be mistaken ... perhaps it's only oslo.config on pypi ... still checking :) | 17:03 |
| harlowja | ya, i can't find it either, but maybe u know the special link | 17:03 |
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| sandywalsh | heh, more likely I'm just wrong :) | 17:04 |
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| sandywalsh | harlowja: yeah, only config in there. Phooey. | 17:08 |
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| harlowja | ya :-/ | 17:08 |
| harlowja | i'd be nice if the rest of oslo showed up there | 17:09 |
| harlowja | *without strong dependencies on oslo.cfg | 17:09 |
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| morganfainberg | henrynash pong | 17:10 |
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| sandywalsh | harlowja: yeah, I think there was a versioning concern that had to be addressed (iirc) | 17:12 |
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| harlowja | possibly, there's also a 'damn everything is tied to oslo.cfg' concern, which means that the oslo-incubator code will likely require medium amount of refactoring to make it a true independent library | 17:14 |
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| sandywalsh | harlowja: I guess the argument will be "other projects are using oslo and making libraries, why can't taskflow?" | 17:17 |
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| harlowja | taskflow not a project though :-p | 17:17 |
| sandywalsh | yet | 17:17 |
| harlowja | the other projects are applications | 17:17 |
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| harlowja | oslo is good for applications/projects, but not for libraries i would argue | 17:17 |
| sandywalsh | not sure that's really a concern ... or arguably taskflow should be part of oslo | 17:18 |
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| sandywalsh | harlowja: and you're likely going to want the db stuff at some point too, no? | 17:19 |
| harlowja | i threw that stuff out of taskflow | 17:19 |
| harlowja | due to the same problem | 17:19 |
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| harlowja | oslo.cfg got dragged in | 17:19 |
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| harlowja | oslo.cfg being dragged in makes taskflow less of a library | 17:20 |
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| harlowja | libraries shouldn't impose configuration formats/globals on users of that library | 17:20 |
| harlowja | oslo.cfg being dragged in does | 17:20 |
| harlowja | http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2013-September/015135.html | 17:21 |
| harlowja | i already fixed in up for taskflow | 17:21 |
| harlowja | *fixed it | 17:22 |
| sandywalsh | gotcha ... interesting. | 17:22 |
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| ayoung | jaypipes, any idea if the policy backend for Keystone was ever vetted, reviewed, implemented or expected to work? How would a service be expected to find its own policy file? | 17:22 |
| sandywalsh | harlowja: I'll add that to the notes ... good reference | 17:22 |
| jaypipes | ayoung: sorry, I don't know the answer :( | 17:23 |
| ayoung | jaypipes, I suspect that no one does | 17:23 |
| ayoung | jaypipes, http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?LavaCode | 17:23 |
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| jog0 | jgriffith: ping | 18:40 |
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| jog0 | we got a cinder recheck bug | 18:45 |
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| lbragstad | hey bnemec I know you're familiar with qpid implementation in OpenStack, just wondering if you could take a look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/oslo/+bug/1224565 if you have a minute. | 18:59 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1224565 in oslo "Can't establish qpid connection with impl_qpid.py" [Undecided,New] | 18:59 |
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| ayoung | bknudson, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/46797/ | 19:26 |
| ayoung | bknudson, I ran a keystone instance in devstack with that and it ran, and the unit tests run...so lets see if smokestack etc like it | 19:27 |
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| bknudson | ayoung: did you want to check self.oaauth_api is None (at line 400, for example)? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/46797/1/keystone/token/providers/uuid.py | 19:28 |
| bknudson | ayoung: also, I should clean up the optional dependency stuff. I posted it before removing duplication. | 19:29 |
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| bknudson | wasn't sure if that's the way you wanted to go or not | 19:29 |
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| ayoung | bknudson, nah | 19:31 |
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| ayoung | just let it 500 if someone does that | 19:31 |
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| ayoung | bknudson, duplication? | 19:32 |
| bknudson | ayoung: I did some copy-pasting in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/46363/1/keystone/common/dependency.py | 19:33 |
| ayoung | bknudson, yeah...you can clean that up before merge...but having the code quickly was a help, so I support the Q&D appraoch for this | 19:33 |
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| ayoung | bknudson, I think that erroring out is actually preferable to what I did there... | 19:35 |
| ayoung | there should probably be an else block that explicitly derails the code path | 19:36 |
| bknudson | ayoung: derails oauth support in token.providers.uuid ? | 19:36 |
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| bknudson | if oauth isn't available? | 19:37 |
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| ayoung | bknudson, yeah...posting an updated patch in a moment that does that explicitly...raises a Forbidden... | 19:39 |
| ayoung | bknudson, we should change run_tests.sh so that it runs the pep8 test first, and won't run if pep8 fails | 19:40 |
| bknudson | ayoung: not a bad suggestion, or have it run pep8 even if only do a single test. | 19:41 |
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| ayoung | bknudson, updated the patch....I think that is the right logic | 19:43 |
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| bknudson | ayoung: actually, the attr should be there, it's just set to None | 19:44 |
| bknudson | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/46797/2/keystone/token/providers/uuid.py line 402 | 19:45 |
| bknudson | this happens at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/46363/1/keystone/common/dependency.py line 151 (it does get which will return None if it's not there) | 19:45 |
| bknudson | I thought setting to None would be easier because then could do "if self.oauth_api:" | 19:46 |
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| ayoung | bknudson, ok..that makes sense...shows that this code path is not tested | 19:51 |
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| ayoung | bknudson, how would I test that? | 19:52 |
| bknudson | ayoung: it's going to be tough because you have to once have that dependency there and once not have the dependency... | 19:52 |
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| bknudson | so you could explicitly set provider.oauth_api to None (there is testing that optional dependency sets the value to None) | 19:53 |
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| bknudson | ayoung: I think what you could do is explicitly set provider.oauth_api to None in a test that does issue_v3_token with oauth1 in the methods? | 19:54 |
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| bknudson | and then you'd have a test where provider.oauth_api is set to the actual provider | 19:55 |
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| bknudson | looks like we always load the oauth packages for testing. | 19:55 |
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| ayoung | bknudson, I just want to test that the exception happens without the dependency | 19:55 |
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| bknudson | ayoung: set the provider oauth_api to None, since that's what's going to happen. | 19:56 |
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| ayoung | once again, the test is harder than the live code | 20:08 |
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| edmund | I noticed that the request ids from Nova (e.g.) do not get propagated to glance, cinder, etc. Is there a way to include request ids in HTTP headers so that activity related to a "top level" request can be correlated to other components (cinder, glance, quantum, etc)? | 20:14 |
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| dolphm | larsks: https://bugs.launchpad.net/grenade | 21:01 |
| larsks | Woo, thanks. | 21:02 |
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| ttx | anteaya: I just sent the "timeline" email for the elections | 22:43 |
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| ttx | anteaya: I was wondering if we should change the mailing-list for the election candicacy to openstack-dev@ | 22:44 |
| ttx | that might make more sense | 22:44 |
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| ttx | for the election announcements maybe doing openstack-dev + openstack-announce would be good | 22:45 |
| anteaya | ttx: awesome thanks I was just looking for that | 22:45 |
| anteaya | ttx yes -dev makes more sense to me | 22:46 |
| ttx | anteaya: +1 | 22:46 |
| * anteaya nods | 22:46 | |
| ttx | and if for the announcements we do announce and dev we should be covered | 22:46 |
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| ttx | anteaya: so the next step is to announce the PTL self-nomination opening Friday | 22:47 |
| anteaya | ttx great, I will take care of the Friday announcement for the opening of the self-nomination period | 22:48 |
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| ttx | anteaya: I'll be traveling back on Thursday/Friday so if you have any question, ping me before | 22:48 |
| anteaya | ttx ack | 22:49 |
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| anteaya | ttx I will change the wiki pages to direct candidates to post to openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org. rather than openstack@lists.openstack.org | 22:53 |
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