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| insanidade | is openstack-dev the mail list I should subscribe if I would like to ask questions to the developer community ? | 00:43 |
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| morganfainberg | insanidade, that is correct | 00:47 |
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| insanidade | morganfainberg: even if I have basic questions? For instance: I'm trying to understand where in the code I should apply changes to the L3 agent so that it works with my router technology. I believe I have to work on a driver, but I still did not find the exact point/modules I have to change. Wouldn't that be a very basic question to a developers list ? | 00:49 |
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| morganfainberg | insanidade, usually that kind of stuff i hit up people on IRC for. | 01:21 |
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| morganfainberg | insanidade, but i can't say it would be bad to ask openstack-dev about. not sure how to advise you there. | 01:22 |
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| insanidade | morganfainberg: I miss some sort of documentation for those willing to start on the code. | 01:32 |
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| insanidade | morganfainberg: In my opinion, Openstack is well designed so I believe that kind of change wouldn't be that hard - and will be even easier on the next releases due to architectural changes being developed. | 01:33 |
| clarkb | insanidade: when you figure it out document it. You can do it in tree in doc/source/ | 01:34 |
| clarkb | looks like the current docs there point to https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Neutron | 01:35 |
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| morganfainberg | clarkb, out of curiosity what was the resolution to: AttributeError: Distribution instance has no attribute 'include_package_data' (saw some irc logs from a couple days ago) | 01:44 |
| morganfainberg | clarkb, i'm running into it locally now. | 01:44 |
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| morganfainberg | clarkb, and it's unclear to me why it happens sometimes but not others (it's a strange one) | 01:46 |
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| clarkb | morganfainberg: clayg was working it. It has to do with how setuptools is lazy imported on top of distutils | 01:57 |
| morganfainberg | got it | 01:57 |
| clarkb | morganfainberg: I have had luck using older setuptools eg 0.7.8 | 01:57 |
| morganfainberg | clarkb, thanks | 01:57 |
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| ghena1986 | http://bit.ly/183GBEv | 02:26 |
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| ayoung | morganfainberg, https://etherpad.openstack.org/keystone-revocation-events | 02:45 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, reading now. | 02:45 |
| ayoung | I think that answers your question about revocation of specific tokens. | 02:45 |
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| morganfainberg | ayoung, did i ask a question about revocation of specific tokens? (honestly, i dont remember) | 02:47 |
| morganfainberg | in either case, yes it does answer that question | 02:47 |
| ayoung | morganfainberg, on the blueprint | 02:47 |
| morganfainberg | oh oh right | 02:47 |
| ayoung | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/keystone/+spec/revocation-events | 02:47 |
| ayoung | morganfainberg, the thing is, the same hack would work for TRLs | 02:47 |
| morganfainberg | oh and that one question wasn't mine | 02:47 |
| ayoung | userID + timestamp | 02:48 |
| morganfainberg | mine were above my name :P | 02:48 |
| ayoung | Ah | 02:48 |
| morganfainberg | i wish whiteboards added user informaiton to the items | 02:48 |
| morganfainberg | no idea who asked that question | 02:48 |
| ayoung | morganfainberg, whiteboards suck on blueprints | 02:48 |
| morganfainberg | yep | 02:49 |
| ayoung | always do this: | 02:49 |
| ayoung | ayoung: what aboiut deliberate revocation? | 02:49 |
| morganfainberg | o | 02:49 |
| morganfainberg | i'll switch it up next round | 02:49 |
| ayoung | that way the line starts with the name of the person that wrote it | 02:49 |
| morganfainberg | yeah | 02:49 |
| ayoung | yeah, I've started doing that internally with my team | 02:49 |
| morganfainberg | not a bad way to handle things | 02:49 |
| ayoung | for example jamielennox and I have been debating this one: https://etherpad.openstack.org/devstack-freeipa | 02:50 |
| morganfainberg | and.. remenicent of IRC | 02:50 |
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| morganfainberg | ah | 02:50 |
| morganfainberg | yes | 02:50 |
| jamielennox | which if i had stopped to notice it was public i would have done the full nick, but people will get it - it would be nice to have a better system for debating them but i don't know what it is | 02:52 |
| ayoung | jamielennox, yeah, but as a norm, this is pretty good | 02:52 |
| ayoung | I did Adam: at one point myself | 02:52 |
| ayoung | jamielennox, twas'nt accidental that I invoked your name: I wanbted to talk about devtack, and the IPA purpose there | 02:53 |
| jamielennox | ok | 02:53 |
| ayoung | remember that devstack is not just for developers, but also for stuff like tempest | 02:53 |
| ayoung | so DNS, SSO, etc | 02:53 |
| ayoung | don't just think of it is setup/teardown | 02:54 |
| jamielennox | ok, and i get it for DNSaaS etc | 02:55 |
| jamielennox | but whilst devstack does have a multi machine setup - does it work, or does anything use it? | 02:56 |
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| ayoung | jamielennox, yeah, and I think tempest does use it. Not sure if it is invoked in a gate job or not | 02:58 |
| jamielennox | ah, you mean as a way of configuring the vms created on top of a devstack environment? i can see it's advantage there - i'm just not sure of the point of centralized sudo on a simngle machine | 02:58 |
| jamielennox | but i consider that a way of IPA backing the services rather than a deployment configuration | 02:58 |
| clarkb | currently all tests in the gate are single node devstack installs | 02:58 |
| ayoung | jamielennox, I'm thinking also that devstack is the mixing ground, so we tryout stuff like sudo, HBAC, and DNS in devstack first, before puppetization | 02:59 |
| ayoung | thanks clarkb | 02:59 |
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| jamielennox | and from memory there is a fair warning before the multi-machine config that it is hard | 02:59 |
| jamielennox | but so something like sudo or HBAC, that seems to be something that can be essentially unit tested rather than need to be in devstack | 03:00 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, added some comments to the etherpad. going back to trying to unravel some per-domain-backend stuff. | 03:00 |
| jamielennox | a run that says provision a new nova machine, did it get the correct sudo, HBAC etc | 03:00 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, catch ya later on. | 03:00 |
| ayoung | jamielennox, I've found that devstack can be a very valuable tool for documenting the install process for, for example openldap for Keystone | 03:01 |
| ayoung | morganfainberg, let me know if you need help with that stuff | 03:01 |
| morganfainberg | also. freeipa in devstack, color me intrigued. | 03:01 |
| ayoung | morganfainberg, excellent. I 'll be speaking on it at the summit, though maybe as just a lightning talk | 03:02 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, fantastic! | 03:02 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, i'll def need some eyes on the review shortly. there is a lot of change that should have little to no impact, but… some of it isn't quite 100% clear | 03:03 |
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| jamielennox | ayoung: anyway i don't mind giving it a try | 03:03 |
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| ayoung | jamielennox, cool beans. By the way, did my response last week make sense? | 03:04 |
| ayoung | I knw that you hav been pulling your hair out over the client.... | 03:04 |
| jamielennox | ayoung: more or less - mostly it was stuff i knew | 03:04 |
| jamielennox | the problem is at some point there has to be a radical large change | 03:05 |
| jamielennox | i've got the destination code (i think), i'm trying a new way of breaking it up now that i'm hoping may result in smaller changes | 03:05 |
| ayoung | jamielennox, yeah...and I suspect that we will bump a major version number for that. Maybe we do that in conjunction with supporting the V3 API, and leave the V2 API to rot? | 03:06 |
| jamielennox | but i realize looking at one patch like that is impossible to figure out what is going on | 03:06 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung: 1.0! | 03:06 |
| jamielennox | ayoung: v2 api will be around for a while | 03:06 |
| jamielennox | 1.0 was sometihng i was hoping to bring up in the summit session | 03:06 |
| ayoung | morganfainberg, I'm skipping right to 5.5 | 03:06 |
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| jamielennox | ayoung: yep, it's more stable that way | 03:07 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, 13.13! | 03:07 |
| ayoung | Nice | 03:07 |
| ayoung | 21.12! Syrinx! | 03:07 |
| morganfainberg | oooh palindrom! yesh. | 03:08 |
| morganfainberg | all versions henceforth should be palidroms. | 03:08 |
| morganfainberg | (it's going to be awkward if we have an rc1, rc1cr? | 03:09 |
| jamielennox | ayoung: also a review on my client tests refactoring would be useful: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/44014/ everything pretty much hangs on doing that | 03:09 |
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| sergmelikyan | Why DocBook was chosen for OpenStack documentation? | 06:21 |
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| sergmelikyan | Why not stick to RST everywhere? | 06:21 |
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| pleia2 | sergmelikyan: probably a better question for #openstack-doc (though several of them are at a sprint this week in california, so probably sleeping), but DocBook is a pretty common documentation format for FOSS projects | 06:25 |
| pleia2 | the documentation writers are largely docs people, not programming people :) | 06:26 |
| pleia2 | so more familiar with docbook than rst | 06:26 |
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| sergmelikyan | I also prefer docbook, and would like to use docbook further (we currently also have docbook for guides and rst for dev docs) but our management considering moving to RST and i try to find reasons to not move. | 06:27 |
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| pleia2 | sergmelikyan: so making it in RST certainly can make the lives of developers easier because docbook can be tricky, but if you want real docs people working on them many have a flow and toolset they use around docbook and might not be all that keen on switching, so I think it really depends upon your writing audience | 06:29 |
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| sergmelikyan | pleia2, thx, that is quite a reason. | 06:30 |
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| rdopieralski | doesn't docutils generate docbook from rst? | 06:30 |
| pleia2 | it may be able to, but in my experience all those translation tools make people familiar with the actual formats have nightmares :) | 06:31 |
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| clarkb | the docs team is playing with markdown to docbook for one build iirc | 06:32 |
| sergmelikyan | markdown is very simple, DocBook is not :) pleia2, +1 | 06:32 |
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| AndreyGrebenniko | hello there people. I'm using devstack/master. When I try to use nova api v3 it returns me "'client' object has no attribute 'os_cache'", which it tells happens in v3/client.py string "os_cache=self.os_cache" | 08:19 |
| AndreyGrebenniko | How could I force that to work? | 08:19 |
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| morganfainberg | jamielennox, haven't gotten through your httpretty patchset yet. started and realized what time it was and how tired i am (code was blurring). shall continue tomorrow | 08:36 |
| morganfainberg | jamielennox, i assume httpretty.last_request() is synonymous to httpretty.httpretty.last_request? | 08:36 |
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| enikanorov | salv-orlando: Hi. I have a question on policy framework. There is a rule "external": "field:networks:router:external=True"; when nova asks for external network it provides filter for network query - router:external=True, and then resulting networks are checked to have router:external = True by policy. That seems strange. Can you explain why? | 09:37 |
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| chandankumar | hello | 09:41 |
| chandankumar | i have a problem in configuring floating ip | 09:41 |
| chandankumar | i am using the following docs to create floating ip | 09:42 |
| chandankumar | http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/openstack-network/admin/content/l3_workflow.html | 09:42 |
| chandankumar | in the following command: | 09:42 |
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| chandankumar | neutron port-list -c id -c fixed_ips -- --device_id=<instance_id> | 09:42 |
| chandankumar | what does this <instance_id> represents? | 09:43 |
| chandankumar | is the id of the instance during boot? | 09:43 |
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| jamielennox | morganfainberg: it is, but i should really be using the httpretty.last_request() version. If you see it comment. | 10:19 |
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| sergmelikyan | Guys, how to insert correctly link to Blueprint in commit message? | 10:59 |
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| salv-orlando | enikanorov: The goal of that policy is to allow tenant to view external networks, which they do not own. The rule simply evaluates an attribute of the resource; it is meant to use in combination with other rules matching on credentials. Then admin_or_owner or external will be evaluated true if: 'admin' is in tenant roles, the object is owned by the tenant_id corresponding to the token or the network is external. | 12:43 |
| enikanorov | got it | 12:45 |
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| insanida1e | has anyone here configured openstack as pydev project within eclipse ? | 13:26 |
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| salv-orlando | insanida1e: I did it a long time ago, as I used eclipse to navigate through python modules to understand how source code works. | 13:39 |
| salv-orlando | I don't have the pydevproject files anymore | 13:40 |
| salv-orlando | but all I had to do was | 13:40 |
| salv-orlando | 1) set project as pydev project; 2) configure main project folder (i.e.: nova, neutron) as source folder. | 13:40 |
| salv-orlando | that's it. | 13:40 |
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| jeblair | hub_cap: ping | 14:41 |
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| sridevi | could someone please review this? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/34801/ | 15:31 |
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| giulivo | dtroyer, thanks for merging the c-bak thing | 15:47 |
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| giulivo | I'm waiting for a couple more things to be merged and then we'll have this backup stuff tested | 15:47 |
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| giulivo | dtroyer, namely this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/45797/ and later this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/45465/ , dosaboy edited the tests | 15:48 |
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| chenxu | I am having the weird issue with neutron. When I add a second network to the project, the dhcp agent is not created immediately. Only if I add the third network, the dhcp agent (namespace) is created for the second network. Any ideas? | 15:51 |
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| chenxu | actually, for some reason, only half of the networks are "assigned" to dhcp agents | 16:04 |
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| chenxu | now I have four networks, but only two of them are with dhcp | 16:04 |
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| roaet | has anyone had any issues with openrc and 'total: no such file or directory' | 16:11 |
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| zul | jd__: ping | 16:13 |
| anteaya | roaet: let's have a paste please | 16:13 |
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| roaet | sorry anteaya . I will get a paste | 16:18 |
| anteaya | great thanks | 16:18 |
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| roaet | anteaya: https://gist.github.com/roaet/8c884d6381fde2e56242 the openrc is the same | 16:21 |
| topol | dolphm, you around | 16:21 |
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| roaet | what I mean is, it wasn't changed. | 16:22 |
| dolphm | topol: o/ | 16:22 |
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| anteaya | roaet: okay the bash error is a red herring, ignore it | 16:22 |
| roaet | Ah, then I'm curious as to why the creds are wrong. | 16:22 |
| anteaya | how old is your devstack? | 16:22 |
| anteaya | yes | 16:22 |
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| roaet | i should just restack eh? | 16:22 |
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| anteaya | roaet: it might go away with a fresh clone of devstack | 16:23 |
| roaet | anteaya: how do I keep my changes if I reclone? | 16:23 |
| anteaya | good question | 16:23 |
| anteaya | dtroyer mtreinish how does one keep their changes and reclone devstack? is it possible? | 16:24 |
| anteaya | I have never tried it myself | 16:25 |
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| Alex_Gaynor | dolphm: ping | 16:26 |
| anteaya | one thing I try to do is keep my work on gerrit | 16:26 |
| roaet | Is it possible to get my change from a review? | 16:26 |
| anteaya | oh yes | 16:26 |
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| topol | dolphm, so i just posted a comment to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/34945/. I think all you need to do is add a line after the tox command to remind folks to make sure any necessary dependencies are installed and then refer them to http://docs.openstack.org/developer/keystone/setup.html#installing-dependencies and then I would have been able to make this work | 16:26 |
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| roaet | Ok. I'll try to figure that out. | 16:26 |
| anteaya | from master `git review -d <patch_number,patchset_version>` | 16:26 |
| anteaya | that takes you into a new branch with that patch | 16:26 |
| dolphm | topol: replied! | 16:27 |
| topol | dolphm, if you add that I would feel comfortable changing my -1 to +1 | 16:27 |
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| anteaya | if the patchset_version is one, then just use patch_number | 16:27 |
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| roaet | alright, thanks anteaya I'll restack and hope for the best. | 16:28 |
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| dolphm | topol: i'm trying to work out if the doc structure is poor (likely) or if you're only focusing on the segment of the doc that is undergoing change (equally likely?) | 16:28 |
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| topol | dolphm,, I think the one liner as a kindly reminder regarding the install dependences is enough of a bread crumb | 16:30 |
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| dolphm | topol: if i clone a project from github, i'm immediately going to try and run the test suite if it has one, or run the project/service/whatever itself if does not have one, and then work through documentation backwards to figure out why it's failing with error X | 16:32 |
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| dolphm | topol: is that reasonable / related to how you're reading the docs? | 16:33 |
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| roaet | anteaya: Sadly, it did not work. Still invalid credentials. | 16:34 |
| Alex_Gaynor | dolphm: ping | 16:34 |
| dolphm | Alex_Gaynor: o/ | 16:34 |
| topol | dolphm, so yes. I am going to try and run the test suite and follow the new tox instructions (and hopefully copy paste properly this time. cant wait to hear about that in hong Kong :-) ). So if you left a bread crumb informingg me about the dependences I would hit the error, See that breadcrumb about install dependences and proably would be able to succeed without resorting to the mailing... | 16:35 |
| topol | ...list for help | 16:35 |
| Alex_Gaynor | dolphm: Hey, so I attempted to see if keystoneclient ran under pypy, but I can't even get the keystone client tests running under CPython, want me to post a TB? | 16:35 |
| topol | thats how as a new person I would have approached it | 16:35 |
| anteaya | roaet: do you still have the bash error too? | 16:35 |
| roaet | anteaya: yes | 16:35 |
| anteaya | how odd | 16:35 |
| anteaya | did you remove that devstack directory entirely and reclone? | 16:35 |
| dolphm | Alex_Gaynor: yes! | 16:35 |
| roaet | anteaya: no :) | 16:36 |
| roaet | oops | 16:36 |
| Alex_Gaynor | dolphm: I'm running on OS X if that matters in the least | 16:36 |
| roaet | lol | 16:36 |
| anteaya | roaet: if you just set reclone in the localrc, that reclones all the project repos but not the devstack code | 16:36 |
| Alex_Gaynor | dolphm: http://bpaste.net/show/imFUh5doRNGgbLpZrzc2/ | 16:37 |
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| dolphm | Alex_Gaynor: i haven't quite seen that series of failures before.. | 16:43 |
| dolphm | Alex_Gaynor: especially from tox | 16:44 |
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| topol | dolphm, would you be willing to add the following statement after the tox command. "If you run into any errors running the tox command please make sure you followed the setup instructions referenced above. | 16:53 |
| topol | (setup) | 16:53 |
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| roaet | anteaya: yeah still the same problems. | 16:59 |
| anteaya | roaet: hmmm | 16:59 |
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| roaet | I can remake my vm | 16:59 |
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| anteaya | can you paste your openrc first - if you are willing to reveal your passwords? | 17:00 |
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| sdague | dhellmann: one more round of thoughts on the chown thing, just because your clean up made me think we could clean it up even a little more | 17:06 |
| dolphm | topol: sure, i just wanted to understand how you're approaching the doc | 17:07 |
| dolphm | topol: in case we can make similar improvements elsewhere, etc | 17:08 |
| Alex_Gaynor | clarkb: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/45908/1 | 17:08 |
| roaet | anteaya: https://gist.github.com/roaet/4bfe75f51eda5b25f9ec is the openrc, I didn't see anything in there | 17:08 |
| Alex_Gaynor | clarkb: err, wrong channel :) | 17:08 |
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| anteaya | roaet: hmmm, I don't know, I haven't seen this error before | 17:10 |
| topol | dolphm, I think the reason I ran into trouble was the following. Previously I never looked that the keystone setup instructions becuase I used devstack and that setup my environment to be good enough to run run_tests. Now I come back admittedly having never had to look at the setup instructions for keystone and tox makes it clear i better have run keystone setup instructions. That's why I... | 17:10 |
| topol | ...think its worth the extra line at the end | 17:10 |
| anteaya | I would join #openstack-nova and then remake your vm | 17:10 |
| anteaya | if you spot an opportunity to ask, if you still have the error, perhaps someone in -nova can help you find out why you can't find your nova credentials | 17:11 |
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| roaet | Alright. This is a strange bug. | 17:12 |
| topol | dolphm, so add that one line at the end and we can all forget just how dumb stevemar thinks I am :-) | 17:13 |
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| anteaya | roaet: I agree | 17:22 |
| anteaya | if you can't find a solution, file a bug report against the devstack repo please | 17:22 |
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| devoid | anyone know why "nova show" on an instance might still report it's association with a floating IP, even when that's patently not true according to the database? (nova-network) | 17:26 |
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| ayoung | dolphm, so we just saw a nasty package dependency show up in Fedora packaging. ouath1 is explicitly referencein keystone/service.py, even thous that component is inactive. We actively start managers there...and that is wrong | 17:34 |
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| dolphm | ayoung: ++ i see that | 17:35 |
| ayoung | dolphm, is there a pythonic apporach to lazy object instantiation? | 17:35 |
| ayoung | seems like the first time something needs identity.manager we should create it then | 17:36 |
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| ayoung | Or dynamically generate the list to activate or something...based on the paste.ini | 17:36 |
| dolphm | ayoung: oauth1.Manager() can be instantiated pretty much anywhere | 17:37 |
| ayoung | dolphm, it should only be instantiated if the object is in the pipeline, though | 17:37 |
| ayoung | we end up pulling in httplib2 due to oauth, but oauth is not active.... | 17:38 |
| ayoung | dolphm, something like what we do with the multiple repos for sql migrations.... | 17:39 |
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| ayoung | dolphm, is there a collection exposed by the paste api for [filter:*] ? | 17:44 |
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| dolphm | ayoung: don't know | 17:45 |
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| dolphm | ayoung: just because there's a filter defined doesn't mean it shows up in a pipeline | 17:46 |
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| ayoung | dolphm, that is true...we'd have to do something like find the pipeline, then compare the elements with the set of extensions, and activate them that way... | 17:47 |
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| dolphm | ayoung: extend this method https://github.com/openstack/keystone/blob/master/keystone/common/wsgi.py#L536-L563 | 17:52 |
| dolphm | ayoung: here https://github.com/openstack/keystone/blob/master/keystone/contrib/oauth1/routers.py#L21 | 17:52 |
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| ayoung | dolphm, interesting...I'll play around with that | 17:56 |
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| ayoung | dolphm, so we'd add a factory method to the router that would initialize the manager? That makes a lot of sense...is that something we | 17:58 |
| stevemar | dolphm: ayoung: what's goin on? | 17:58 |
| ayoung | could generalize | 17:58 |
| ayoung | stevemar, oauth1 pulls in httplib2 | 17:59 |
| stevemar | ayoung: i'm guessing we don't want that by default? | 17:59 |
| dolphm | ayoung: ++ | 17:59 |
| ayoung | and since it is disabled by default, we don't want to make that a package dependency | 17:59 |
| stevemar | gotcha | 17:59 |
| ayoung | stevemar, its due to the activate ion in keystone/service.py | 17:59 |
| ayoung | so...dolph figured out the paste magic that we can use to activate the manager when the routes are processed...I need to test it out, though | 18:00 |
| stevemar | ayoung: yes, i see the magic paste method | 18:00 |
| stevemar | cool | 18:00 |
| ayoung | dolphm, seems like it is something we can do on keystone/wsgi/ExtensionRouter | 18:00 |
| stevemar | dolphm: ayoung, on to -meeting! | 18:01 |
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| roaet | I don't get it, recreated the VM and everything, it still doesn't allow me to auth. | 18:02 |
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| anteaya | any keystone guys have a minute to lend to roaet, he is getting an ERROR: Invalid OpenStack Nova credentials. : https://gist.github.com/roaet/8c884d6381fde2e56242 | 18:04 |
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| dolphm | anteaya: roaet: we just started our weekly meeting, but hit me up in an hourish? | 18:07 |
| anteaya | k | 18:08 |
| roaet | thanks dolphm | 18:08 |
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| dolphm | anteaya: roaet: but, generic advice- make sure you're specifying a tenant with your credentials, and make sure you have a role assignment on that tenant (or it's your user's default tenant) | 18:08 |
| anteaya | he did source openrc as admin | 18:09 |
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| roaet | anteaya: dolphm, still getting the same bash error as well. | 18:09 |
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| anteaya | roaet: try source ~/devstack/openrc admin | 18:10 |
| anteaya | again | 18:10 |
| anteaya | and try a different nova command, like nova image-list | 18:10 |
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| roaet | No go. | 18:10 |
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| markwash | dtroyer: Hi there! if you get a chance can you help me figure out any clues about the devstack problems with this patch? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/45335/ | 18:12 |
| anteaya | roaet: post a fresh paste of your command attempts and output so dolphm can look when he has the time | 18:12 |
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| roaet | anteaya: dolphm: the current issue: https://gist.github.com/roaet/9acb48c0e6ae6f18bff8 | 18:14 |
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| anteaya | roaet: you are doing source openrc admin admin | 18:16 |
| roaet | nevermind... I guess i figured it out. | 18:16 |
| anteaya | what happens if you just source openrc admin | 18:16 |
| roaet | anteaya: the same thing | 18:16 |
| anteaya | roaet: what did you discover? | 18:16 |
| roaet | I figured it out, the openrc didn't change the password -secrete on line 50 | 18:16 |
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| roaet | I mean, during the setup. | 18:16 |
| anteaya | why would that be? | 18:17 |
| roaet | It didn't change that password to my password that I set during the prompt. | 18:17 |
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| roaet | Which I expected it to? Why else would is ask? | 18:17 |
| roaet | is/it | 18:17 |
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| roaet | nevermind, that is the default password. Ok then I don't know what is happening, but I changed secrete to my 'password' and it works. I will research. Sorry anteaya for the time, but thanks for the help. Thanks dolphm it has been figured out. | 18:18 |
| anteaya | roaet: glad you are on your way | 18:19 |
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| dolphm | roaet: problem in devstack? | 18:19 |
| dolphm | roaet: * bug? | 18:19 |
| roaet | dolphm: anteaya: no i guess something changed? I didn't know I had to set variables in openrc, I haven't done that before. But I had to set the $ADMIN_PASSWORD in there. Otherwise it always worked without such changes. | 18:20 |
| anteaya | roaet: were you prompted for passwords when devstack installed initially? | 18:21 |
| roaet | anteaya: yes. | 18:21 |
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| anteaya | from my understanding openrc consumes localrc and the passwords are set in localrc | 18:22 |
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| roaet | anteaya: and I entered them in, so previously (on x-men), it just 'worked'. this time it didn't. But it stopped worked. | 18:22 |
| anteaya | I don't think you should have to set your passwords in openrc | 18:22 |
| roaet | working. Why can't I type. | 18:22 |
| anteaya | what is x-men? | 18:22 |
| roaet | I will try to figure out if something changed, but I have a meeting in 8 min, so I'll be back. Thanks for all the help. | 18:22 |
| anteaya | besides a comic book | 18:23 |
| roaet | It is a bad joke, my apologies. | 18:23 |
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| anteaya | okay, let us know if there is something odd with devstack and passwords | 18:23 |
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| anteaya | I will try to stand up a fresh devstack myself today and see if I can replicate | 18:23 |
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| dtroyer | markwash: hmmm…interesting that the runs alwaystime out during the migrations, but never at the same place. | 18:41 |
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| roaet | anteaya: I'm not sure why, I will look into it further, but it appears my stackrc is not sourcing localrc, thus it is not getting the passwords. There was a change (ebdd61d1363cd8b99ee00d6d87e08e2f6e33d87e) that messed with said files, but I haven't totally looked into it. I will soon. | 18:44 |
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| anteaya | roaet: hmm that change went in June 1st | 18:46 |
| anteaya | I have installed many a fresh devstack since then | 18:46 |
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| markwash | dtroyer: yeah.. that patch adds a migration as well. . I don't suppose it could be freezing on the new migration and then there are just indeterminate forces that are making it freeze up the logs? | 18:50 |
| markwash | specifically, making it look like its freezing up earlier in the logs? | 18:50 |
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| dtroyer | markwash: it's possible that line buffering is causing the variation in the output times in the log | 18:52 |
| markwash | its the simplest explanation I can think of so far | 18:52 |
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| bknudson | dolphm: the external docs in http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/ (http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/openstack-compute/admin/content/ch-identity-mgmt-config.html) | 19:00 |
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| dolphm | jamielennox: do you keep opening new reviews for httpretty? i swear i've reviewed that patch a couple times already | 19:00 |
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| bknudson | do we just take bugs and fix them 1 by 1 or can we do a refactoring? (e.g., get Identity out of Compute) | 19:01 |
| jamielennox | dolphm: i did the one for auth_token seperately | 19:01 |
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| jamielennox | dolphm: i was trying to avoid doing the whole test suite, however there was just some really dumb stuff in there | 19:02 |
| dolphm | jamielennox: ah, that was it | 19:02 |
| bknudson | dolphm: some of this is up in the air because of the structure changes that aren't reflected on that web site | 19:02 |
| dolphm | annegentle: available? | 19:02 |
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| jamielennox | with regard to the backporting of the SQL join patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/45629/ it looks fine but why is it a backport? | 19:07 |
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| jamielennox | i thought backport was reserved for more critical fixes | 19:08 |
| dolphm | jamielennox: i don't know that there's a specific policy for 'must be critical' | 19:09 |
| morganfainberg | dolphm / ayoung, http://summit.openstack.org/cfp/details/62 | 19:09 |
| dolphm | jamielennox: as i see it, it's low risk, simple / easy to grok, and provides a significant perf gain for those api calls | 19:09 |
| annegentle | dolphm: \o for a mo | 19:09 |
| ayoung | morganfainberg, there is already a Federation session proposed. I would merge those two | 19:10 |
| jamielennox | dolphm: fair enough | 19:10 |
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| morganfainberg | ayoung, hrm. ok | 19:10 |
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| dolphm | annegentle: i don't know what that means :P but bknudson and i were wondering what happened to all the content in the openstack-manuals repo | 19:10 |
| dolphm | annegentle: there appears to be a bunch of stuff missing now | 19:11 |
| dolphm | annegentle: post-refactor | 19:11 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, done added that as a comment to stevemar's proposed session | 19:12 |
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| morganfainberg | instead of it's own submission | 19:12 |
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| ayoung | morganfainberg, oauth, fedartion, and your topic can be one session. Keystone client is one session, and tokens revocation should be one session, linked with other token based issues, I think | 19:12 |
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| morganfainberg | ayoung, makes perfect sense. | 19:13 |
| stevemar | morganfainberg: reading your comments now | 19:13 |
| ayoung | morganfainberg, we probably are only going to have 5 sessions total, if previosu summits are any indication, so we will end up consoidating sessions once the mad crush comes in | 19:13 |
| dolphm | jamielennox: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/StableBranch does mention "high impact bugs" | 19:13 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, yeah. | 19:13 |
| bknudson | annegentle: dolphm: I don't know if things have been removed and I just can't find them anymore | 19:13 |
| bknudson | on Dirk Mueller's system the performance problem might be high impact. | 19:14 |
| jamielennox | dolphm: i'll have a look through that, as you say it's a fairly simple one i was just wondering what the requirement was | 19:15 |
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| dolphm | jamielennox: every change to stable is worth debating -- this one checks all the official boxes for me: low risk of regression, user visible benefit, self-contained fix already in master | 19:17 |
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| dolphm | bknudson: did you do reviews on morganfainberg's manager caching stuff? | 19:34 |
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| bknudson | dolphm: I don't think so. | 19:34 |
| bknudson | I haven't used dogpile before | 19:34 |
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| bknudson | also, it seemed to be getting plenty of attention from others. | 19:35 |
| dolphm | bknudson: no worries, just looking for someone to review another one | 19:36 |
| morganfainberg | dolphm, mostly was ayoung and henrynash | 19:37 |
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| dolphm | ayoung: henrynash: :D https://review.openstack.org/#/c/45806/ | 19:37 |
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| morganfainberg | dolphm, thankfully that is a pretty straightforward change. | 19:38 |
| ayoung | yep | 19:41 |
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| ayoung | morganfainberg, approved. Makes sense. | 19:42 |
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| morganfainberg | ayoung, cool. thanks | 19:43 |
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| bknudson | something odd going on with pep8 requirement | 20:24 |
| clarkb | bknudson: yes, dolphm pointed it on in -infra. I am working on reproducing so that I can sort it out | 20:24 |
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| roaet | anteaya: ping | 20:53 |
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| roaet | Actually, anyone really. I'm attempting to get my change from gerrit, as I lost the commits during a reclone. Is there a way to checkout a change? | 20:56 |
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| jhesketh | roaet: on each patchset there are some git commands that let you check it out | 20:58 |
| jhesketh | what change are you working on? | 20:58 |
| roaet | jhesketh: Oh! I completely overlooked those commands. | 20:59 |
| roaet | I am working on my change: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/44942/ | 20:59 |
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| jhesketh | okay, so you got it? | 21:00 |
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| roaet | Yes, thank you. I think so. | 21:00 |
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| jhesketh | no worries | 21:01 |
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| morganfainberg | anteaya, i am sending you vagrant blog post to my company's product guy. :) need vagrant + devstack, and you have good docs on it. | 21:15 |
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| dolphm | morganfainberg: ++ | 21:18 |
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| anteaya | morganfainberg: thank you, let me know if company product guy has comments for improvement | 21:23 |
| morganfainberg | anteaya, i'll be sure to ask him | 21:23 |
| ekarlso- | reed: around ? | 21:24 |
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| reed | ekarlso-, yes | 21:24 |
| ekarlso- | reed: got clues onto where the next summit past I is gonna be ? | 21:24 |
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| reed | ekarlso-, US, most likely | 21:25 |
| reed | don't know much more than that | 21:25 |
| ekarlso- | reed: EAST / WEST ? | 21:25 |
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| reed | ekarlso-, it'll be announced soon | 21:25 |
| ekarlso- | reed: Do a Cisco Live and go Orlando :D | 21:25 |
| reed | ekarlso-, I'm fairly sure Orlando is not among the options :) | 21:26 |
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| ekarlso- | reed: why not ? ;) | 21:26 |
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| reed | anyway, the next venue will be announced for sure in HK, probably even before then | 21:26 |
| anteaya | morganfainberg: thanks | 21:27 |
| wolfdreamer | has anybody else in neutron seen this error from the pep8 test for requirements.txt | 21:28 |
| wolfdreamer | (six 1.4.1 (/home/jenkins/workspace/gate-neutron-pep8/.tox/pep8/lib/python2.7/site-packages), Requirement.parse('six<1.4.0')) | 21:28 |
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| anteaya | roaet: yes, I'm back now | 21:29 |
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| anteaya | and it looks like your question was answered | 21:31 |
| anteaya | also `git review -d <patch_number>` works too | 21:32 |
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| dolphm | ayoung: on your "Extensions must be explicitly referenced even when inactive", you're mostly describing a solution, and don't really mention the problem you're solving | 21:34 |
| wolfdreamer | wrong window, Reported as a bug : https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1223568 | 21:34 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1223568 in neutron "pep8 requirements failing" [Undecided,New] | 21:34 |
| dolphm | wolfdreamer: yes, definitely | 21:36 |
| dolphm | clarkb: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1223568 | 21:36 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1223568 in neutron "pep8 requirements failing" [Undecided,New] | 21:36 |
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| ayoung | jamielennox, http://summit.openstack.org/cfp/details/62 | 21:37 |
| ayoung | dolphm, heh, was just discussing that with jamielennox | 21:38 |
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| ayoung | I'll make the bug more specific | 21:38 |
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| dolphm | ayoung: have a goal in mind for the outcome of the session when you propose them | 21:39 |
| dolphm | ayoung: that just reads like it's a talk or something | 21:39 |
| ayoung | dolphm, https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/1223524 | 21:39 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1223524 in keystone "Inactive oauth extension creates dependency on httplib2" [Undecided,New] | 21:39 |
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| roaet | anteaya: sorry for ping, I was helped by jhesketh to figure out how to repull my changes | 21:39 |
| jamielennox | ayoung: added a line about what i'm looking for | 21:39 |
| clarkb | dolphm: jog0 is pushing a new hacking without the pinthat should fix most projects | 21:40 |
| ayoung | dolphm, I'm thinking in terms of gathering the various topics that people want to dicuss into a single session, as we are likely to have a large number of them suggested. | 21:40 |
| dolphm | clarkb: cool, thanks! | 21:40 |
| mordred | gabrielhurley: ping | 21:40 |
| clarkb | dolphm: and ceilometer is working on fixing the need for the six pin which should fix everyone once we unpin | 21:40 |
| gabrielhurley | mordred: hi | 21:40 |
| anteaya | roaet: np, happy you can call on me - my response and reading of the backscroll needs to sync up better, glad you got your help | 21:40 |
| dolphm | ayoung: let people suggest them first? | 21:40 |
| ayoung | In the case of that one...we are going to need to discuss alembic and the approach for moving over to it. I see that as part of a larger topic | 21:40 |
| jamielennox | ayoung: we're certainly not alone on the alembic migration though, i imagine that will come up outside of keystone | 21:41 |
| dolphm | jamielennox: pretty sure that's a solved problem in ceilometer land | 21:41 |
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| jamielennox | dolphm: yep, they developed/use stevedore which was mentioned in the original post | 21:42 |
| dolphm | ayoung: what is the question you want to answer regarding approach? | 21:42 |
| jamielennox | i was just looking to give a reason why to look at those things | 21:42 |
| ayoung | dolphm one: how do you do extension out of tree in keystone. two: how do you enumerate the set of migrations to perform | 21:43 |
| ayoung | dolphm, also, how do you identify the module dependencies | 21:44 |
| ayoung | for example, with oauth, we want to avoid hacing httplib2 if oauth is not active | 21:44 |
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| jamielennox | three: how do out of tree extensions interact with keystone - for example could trusts be standalone | 21:44 |
| dolphm | ayoung: isn't that about to be a solved problem? | 21:44 |
| dolphm | jamielennox: yes it could | 21:44 |
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| jamielennox | dolphm: it will need callbacks/hooks into keystone | 21:45 |
| dolphm | jamielennox: no, it doesn't | 21:45 |
| ayoung | dolphm, this is what I want to discuss. | 21:45 |
| ayoung | I think you have some pretty clear ideas, and there are some interesting approaches elsewhere in OpenStack as well: Stevedore and Alembic, for example | 21:46 |
| jamielennox | i don't like the extension as a middleware concept, i'd much prefer the hooks | 21:46 |
| jamielennox | IMO obviously | 21:46 |
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| ayoung | Our current dependency resolution feels reinvented and also fragile. I'd like to see if Stevedore is a better approach, or if it works in with Paste cleanly. | 21:47 |
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| ayoung | dolphm, If we are going to push "everything is an extension first" I'd like to have a good set of tools for people to be able to do that. | 21:48 |
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| dolphm | ayoung: best way to do that is to git init a demo | 21:48 |
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| dolphm | ayoung: i don't see a design summit session as immediately helpful unless there's a problem people want to discuss | 21:49 |
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| ayoung | dolphm, I thin that this one is the kernel of the idea. It covers what Jamie and I want to discuss. It might get subsumed under someone elses, and it might give someone else ideas....worst case, it is another button for you to click "unapproved" on when the time comes to winnow down the list | 21:50 |
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| dolphm | ayoung: i'm just giving you a heads up now -- when it comes down to <hotly debated question> or <demo hour>, <hotly debated question> will be chosen every time | 21:52 |
| ayoung | dolphm, BTW, can you unapprove items already and remove them from the list? I duplicated one of Jamies propsals: http://summit.openstack.org/cfp/details/38 can go | 21:52 |
| dolphm | ayoung: (for the design summit) | 21:52 |
| dolphm | ayoung: the conference will choose <demo> every time | 21:52 |
| bknudson | devstack is getting "CRITICAL nova [-] Core API extensions are missing: set(['flavors', ..." | 21:52 |
| bknudson | any tips? | 21:52 |
| dolphm | ayoung: i marked it "Refused" - i don't think i have any more control over that than you | 21:52 |
| ayoung | dolphm, cool | 21:53 |
| dolphm | ayoung: i figured that would send an email, or maybe ttx can just delete it? | 21:53 |
| dolphm | ayoung: other than that session, i don't want start approving/refusing *anything* yet | 21:53 |
| ayoung | dolphm, deleted | 21:53 |
| dolphm | ayoung: oh, awesome | 21:53 |
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| jamielennox | how many summit topics are we expecting? | 21:54 |
| jamielennox | or do we have time for i guess | 21:54 |
| dolphm | jamielennox: let me check | 21:54 |
| ayoung | jamielennox, last couple we had a days worth 5-6 I think | 21:54 |
| dolphm | jamielennox: we have 9 slots | 21:55 |
| dolphm | ayoung: same as in portland, actually | 21:55 |
| dolphm | jamielennox: ayoung: the big difference is that we won't be stacked up on one day | 21:56 |
| jamielennox | of approx how long? | 21:56 |
| dolphm | jamielennox: i think they're all 40 minutes | 21:56 |
| ayoung | jamielennox, http://openstacksummitapril2013.sched.org/ | 21:57 |
| ayoung | that was portland...all of Keystone was on Thursday | 21:57 |
| jamielennox | ok, so some of these may be a bit widely scoped at the moment | 21:58 |
| ayoung | gotta run and catch the bus. | 21:58 |
| dolphm | jamielennox: hence the need to focus on a single topic of contention :) | 21:59 |
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| jamielennox | dolphm: yep | 21:59 |
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| bknudson | contention in keystone? never. | 22:02 |
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| dolphm | bknudson: SELECT ALL -> APPROVE #done | 22:02 |
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| bknudson | btw - it my python-neutronclient was out of date. | 22:06 |
| dolphm | bknudson: because the new neutron has a pin on six? | 22:07 |
| bknudson | dolphm: no, because devstack overwrites files and then git pull doesn't apply. | 22:08 |
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