Saturday, 2013-09-07

morganfainbergayoung, dns can be ~255 chars, just use the whole dn as the id00:04
morganfainbergDNs that is, not domain name service00:04
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morganfainbergjust urlencode/decode at the controller layer00:04
morganfainberganyway.. bbib.00:05
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henrynashmorganfainberg: ping08:58
morganfainberghenrynash, how goes?08:58
morganfainberghenrynash, wow, i guess i should be sleeping :P  ah well, fair bet i'm awake late Pacific time.08:59
henrynashmorganfainberg: good…nice sunny morning here in UK08:59
morganfainberghenrynash, nice.  betcha it's a nice temp out too, right?08:59
henrynashmorganfainberg: where are u on the west coast?08:59
morganfainbergLos Angeles08:59
morganfainbergmore specifically, pasadena.09:00
henrynashmorganfainberg: ahh, spent 10 years living in the bay area….cupertino, los gatos & walnut creek09:00
morganfainbergnice area09:00
morganfainbergused to work up in san mateo09:00
henrynashmorganfainberg: yes,bay area is since09:01
henrynashmorganfainberg: so thinking more about our user_id problem over night09:01
morganfainberghenrynash, ah yes, i haven't slept on it yet, but up for more convos09:01
henrynashmorganfainberg: there is one big fly in my arguments about letting all the assignment calls just reflect what the if mapping say09:02
henrynashmorganfainberg: groups.09:02
morganfainberghenrynash, aye09:02
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henrynashmorganfainberg: while a lot of the assignment calls are fine (e.g. grants etc.)09:02
morganfainberghenrynash, i can see that.09:02
henrynashmorganfainberg: if you want to get what roles YOU have…you need to know what groups you are in….which is inidentity09:03
henrynashmorganfainberg: ouch09:03
morganfainberghenrynash, yep =/09:03
henrynashmorganfainberg: and I'm about to make it worse….I'm working on https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/120148709:03
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1201487 in keystone "listing projects for a user omits those that only have group related roles" [High,In progress]09:04
morganfainberghenrynash, hm.  maybe we (ugh, api change) do an x-domain-subject header, if that isn't passed in it is always based on current context?09:04
morganfainberghenrynash, this might be slightly insane, couple beers and 2am here09:05
henrynashmorganfainberg: maybe not so insaine...09:05
morganfainberghenrynash, it would solve some issues.  still need user_ids to be a bit more descriptive than "cn" out of ldap.. but that is a difference bridge09:06
morganfainbergdifferent*09:06
morganfainberghenrynash, the only sticking point is dealing with unscoped tokens (does v3 even really do that?)09:08
morganfainbergbut that probably isn't too bad. actually09:08
henrynashmorganfainberg: so in fact (if we ignore authenticate by user_id, rather than username for second) we either have an explicit domain or can get one from the project with every token09:09
henrynashthat's true today09:09
morganfainbergright.  the only edge cases are "cloud admin" type roles or if you want the ability to manage across a domain.09:09
henrynashso we could say that domain IS the scope unless you tell us otherwise explicitely09:10
morganfainbergthat isn't really too bad of an idea09:10
morganfainbergthough, since it seems (at first glance) to be an API change, likely that requires icehouse09:11
henrynashand for IceHouse we add a domainID to authenticate with user_id, while still supporting the old one, and if you are using multi-domain you really need o use the new version09:11
morganfainbergyes09:11
henrynashthat's the only change we'd need09:11
morganfainbergi'm kind of likeing that09:11
henrynashproject scoped tokens can always deduce the domain from the project entity, which is assignmnet09:12
morganfainbergyep09:12
morganfainbergi see only one issue atm09:12
morganfainbergare trusts explicitly project scoped ? (sorry it's late)09:12
morganfainbergi know they are user based.09:13
morganfainbergif they are project scoped, we're ok.09:13
henrynashhmm, not sure…would have to look, that's an young question09:13
morganfainbergyep09:13
henrynashyes they must be…you delegate the roles you have on project X to user Y09:13
morganfainbergthe rest seems fine.  V2 can assume default_domain (who cares we get to deprecate that eventually, basic support is all thats needed)09:13
henrynashagreed09:14
henrynashso for H this would all hang together as long as you don't log in by user_id09:14
morganfainbergand to support the idea of cross-domain data gathering, i guess thats where x-domain-subject comes in? provided, of course, you're allowed to do that09:14
henrynashyes, have to think about that….09:15
morganfainbergfor h, i think it's shore up as much as we can easily.  get more scafolding in09:15
morganfainbergkeep it "Expirimental"09:15
henrynashexperimental, i agree09:15
morganfainbergbut mostly working, edge cases will be present09:15
morganfainberge.g. no cross domain introspection09:15
henrynashyes, I think that's right09:16
henrynashI *think* we can get away without that....09:16
morganfainbergif you don't have a token scoped to the domain, sorry i can't help you09:16
morganfainbergso, login in the domain is required to act on the domain (in split-id mode)09:16
henrynashno, if you have a project scoped token, we pull the domain out of the project09:16
morganfainberghrm.09:16
morganfainbergcould a member of domain b have membership to project in domain a?09:17
henrynashbut that does give you permission to do something (that's up to the policy file_09:17
henrynashsadly, in theory, yes09:17
morganfainbergthen we _must_ make user_id more explicit, and include domain information09:18
henrynashfor the z-domain case, we do have a problem…that will be the edge case we can't handle09:18
morganfainberge.g. 2 sql domains would have (in theory) the same issue as 2 ldap domains, which domain do you lookup against?  or just search and if you find duplicates… undefined behaviro?09:18
henrynash(x-domain)09:18
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henrynashhmmm……time for more thinking...09:19
morganfainbergactually that issue is present in the N>1 domain case (with split backend)09:19
morganfainbergthat could be part of the "experimental" nature, sorry, you can't do cross-domain yet09:20
henrynashi think there are issues there anyway, yes.  for instance, what policy file rules do you right to control what can and cannot happen across domains….a token will only contain one domain_did09:20
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morganfainbergright.09:21
henrynashyes, I'm pretty sure that will be it…we can probably solve the rest for H, but not that09:21
morganfainbergbasically, with split backend, enforce the need for domain-scope (one way or another) and don't try and solve cross-domain (token is your domain scope)09:22
morganfainbergthat seems like a reasonable starting place for H.09:22
henrynashagreed09:22
morganfainbergand, probably still a sizable delta, nothing insane. (I think i'm about 40-50% there locally atm)09:22
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morganfainbergjust in my exploration of "fixing" the bug mark miller (right?) entered09:23
henrynashaged…two main things to do…fix a fe bugs that don't pick up domain if where it should in auth09:23
morganfainbergi think there is only 1 case of that at the moment09:23
henrynashI think you are right09:24
morganfainbergand the rest is just deriving domain where we expect it.09:24
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henrynashand then if it's a project scoped token, pull the domain id out of the project and put that in the context, and a bunch more calls in the Manager layer must pick that up09:24
morganfainbergonly a couple cases where that is hard(ish) 2 or 3 (where we lookup project or domain based upon something like a user_ref lookup)09:25
morganfainbergcan't always be context, some places don't know anything about context, but know project id09:25
morganfainbergsame net effect though09:25
morganfainberglookup prtoject and snag domain09:26
henrynashwell have I did for the identity calls is I changed the controller code to grab the domain out of context (or wherever) and pass that as domain_scope into the manager layer…09:27
morganfainbergyeah i saw that09:27
morganfainbergneed to add that to a couple more things09:27
henrynashyep09:27
morganfainberge.g. delete_user :P09:27
henrynashdid I miss that…damn!!  :-)09:27
morganfainberghehe i think so09:27
henrynashoops09:27
morganfainbergalso need to guard on domain deletion for read-only id backends09:27
morganfainbergwould delete credentials and tokens for 1 user or 1 group and bail because it can't delete the object (aka ForbiddenAction)09:28
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morganfainbergi'll get a couple of those types of fixes in here as well since they technically are directly related.09:29
henrynashok, right09:29
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morganfainbergi think i have my target to work towards for early next week.  hopefully monday i'll have something up09:30
henrynashgreat job thinking all this through….a nice mess young and I have created :-)  More me, probably09:30
morganfainbergeh, the blame is spread around pretty evenly09:31
henrynashok, feel free to bounce ideas off me….it's a tough nut09:31
morganfainbergtotally will, gotta look at a couple new apartments this weekend (it's time to move! wheee)09:31
morganfainbergso, not sure how active i'll be until sunday afternoonish here09:31
morganfainbergbut i'll stew on this overnight at least.  might have an epiphany!09:32
henrynashsure, no worries, sometimes on these kind of things jut smelling it over with our writing code is a good plan09:33
morganfainberghenrynash, anyways, enjoy your nice and sunny morning! I'm going to sleep through the warm and summer-y  night.09:33
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henrynashgo for it.09:34
henrynashgood night09:34
morganfainbergcheers09:34
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ekarlso-creately or invision for ui design ?12:16
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insanida1eanyone alive this saturday ?14:18
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insanidadeanteaya: hey15:25
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anteayahello insanidade15:25
anteayahow are you doing?15:25
insanidadeanteaya: fine. hope you are fine as well.15:29
anteayayes thanks15:30
insanidadeanteaya: I'm trying to install devstack on an ubuntu vm inside the vagrant+virtualbox setup but it keeps complaining about packages in their apt-get repositories and some weird errors. I had no problems when using CentOs instead of ubuntu.15:30
insanidadeI'm giving it a last chance. if it keeps presenting errors, I'll bet back to CentOs where I had absolutely no problems for installing devstack.15:31
anteayaare you willing to share a paste with the errors?15:32
insanidadeanteaya: as soon as it happen again - I hope they wont. I'm running a ./stack.sh right now.15:32
anteayainsanidade: have you spent anytime with this? http://anteaya.info/blog/2013/09/01/installing-devstack-with-vagrant/15:33
anteayawell if you are missing packages it will complain again15:33
insanidadeabsolutely. I found your post in openstack's blog. same as I do here.15:33
anteayaah okay15:34
insanidadeanteaya: they look like repository errors.15:34
anteayathen yes, I would be interested in taking a peek at the errors15:34
anteayaokay15:34
insanidadewell, this is just a test. I had no problems with CentOs. If I get stuck in those problems, I'll create another machine and keep working with it.15:34
insanidadeanteaya: I'll paste the errors in case they happen.15:35
insanidadeanteaya: I decided trying ubuntu because most of developers say they are using it and are pretty happy with it. kind of a standard.15:35
anteayait is yes15:36
anteayathanks for giving it a try15:36
anteayahow is your blog coming along?15:36
anteayayour installation of devstack on centos would make a good blog post as well15:37
insanidadeanteaya: organizing text to be published. I've had no time to fully dedicate my efforts to it. I've been on some product presentations this week and still trying to change the default l3 agent/driver so that it works with a specific router.15:38
insanidadeanteaya: but there will be a blog :)15:39
insanidadeanteaya: and we have an error. paste is coming.15:39
anteayayay for errors15:39
anteayayay for blog15:39
insanidadehttp://paste.openstack.org/show/46082/15:40
insanidadeanteaya: this 'apt-get update' and the other suggestion were considered and executed. same issue.15:41
insanidadeanteaya: well, I'm using a precise 64 box. I could try using the 32 one you suggested in your post. What do you think ?15:41
anteayait should work with 64 bit15:43
anteayaI run 64 bit on my laptop15:43
anteayathe reason the blog post suggests 32 is in case the reader hasn't changed their bios settings to allow 64 bit virtualization15:44
anteayado you run 64 bit on your centos?15:44
anteayahave you changed your bios to allow for 64 bit virtualization?15:44
anteayasometimes it is the stuff you don't ask about that bites you15:45
insanidadeyes for 64 with centos and yes for bios.15:45
anteayaokay great15:45
anteayayou have to run sudo with apt-get update15:45
anteayadid you run `sudo apt-get update`?15:46
insanidadeyep15:46
insanidadetwice.15:46
anteayacould you do it again and paste the last 4 or 5 lines of the output?15:46
anteayaupdate just updates all the sources where it looks for packages15:47
anteayaso update doesn't change anything by running it again15:47
insanidadeseems like a clean command execution: http://paste.openstack.org/show/46084/15:48
anteayaI agree15:48
anteayaokay what is the command you run that results in an error?15:48
insanidadeanteaya: looks like it's trying to install mysql server. it happens during ./stack.sh : http://paste.openstack.org/show/46085/15:53
anteayawhat happens if you go ahead and install those packages yourself?15:54
anteayafor instance `sudo apt-get install libdbd-mysql-perl`15:54
anteayaI have no idea why they aren't installing for you15:55
anteayaperhaps we can discover why if you install them by hand15:55
anteayaonce they are on your system devstack should recognize them and not try to install them again15:55
insanidadeyeah. just tried it. They are successfully installed.15:56
insanidadeone by one.15:56
insanidadeeven dependencies are resolved.15:56
anteayagreat15:57
anteayalet's see what happens when you run ./stack.sh now15:57
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insanidadeanteaya: just fired it up again.16:00
insanidadeafter installing each of those packages.16:01
anteayagreat16:01
anteayalet's watch what happens16:01
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insanidadeanteaya: yeah...stuck again.16:55
anteayapaste?16:55
insanidadeit just got stuck at that point: http://paste.openstack.org/show/46088/16:56
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* anteaya looks16:57
anteayaby stuck, what do you mean?16:57
anteayadid it exit and return the prompt?16:57
anteayaI don't see an error16:58
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insanidadeanteaya: I mean it is still there. Nothing beyond that last line.16:58
anteayagreat16:58
anteayait is still running that command16:58
anteaya`python manage.py syncdb --noinput`16:58
anteayamake a cup of tea16:59
insanidadeanteaya: I'm not sure. The same has happened last night and it took hours there. Now, I don't see any extra execution, the system is not stressed... looks like nothing is happening.16:59
anteayawell don't cut it off yet16:59
insanidadeit didn't take that long - not even half of that time - in my previous Centos installation.16:59
anteayaokay17:00
anteayabut last night you didn't have the sql libraries correct?17:00
insanidade./stack.sh is something that runs in last than 25 minutes here. This one took 3 or 4 hours stuck at that same point last night.17:00
anteayathat seems to be a django command, at least that is what my searches are coming up with17:01
insanidadeanteaya: well, I assume I had the sql libraries - otherwise, how would the script reach this point ?17:01
anteayasomething to do with horizon perhaps?17:01
insanidadeanteaya: and for some reason the libraries were not available now. odd.17:01
anteayaI thought that ubuntu errored out when you tried to install them17:02
anteayaokay well how long has it been working on that command?17:02
insanidadeanteaya: yes, it errored out. but at the first time it did not.it was able to reach the point where I'm right now.17:02
insanidadeprobably 20 minutes now.17:02
anteayahmmmm17:02
insanidadethe whole process used to take 20 minutes or a little more.17:02
anteayaI wonder how it was able to install the packages the first time and then not find them the second time17:03
anteayathat doesn't make any sense17:03
insanidadeyeah17:03
insanidadeI agree.17:03
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anteayaI'm looking up this command to see if I can figure out why it would stall17:05
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insanidadeanteaya: I appreciate your support :)17:06
anteayano problem17:07
anteayaI admire your determination17:07
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anteayahere is manage.py https://pypi.python.org/pypi/manage.py/0.117:08
anteayait comes with django17:08
anteayaand invokations of manage.py runs django commands17:09
anteaya--noinput is a flag to tell it not to wait for anything more before running17:09
anteayaso why is syncdb stalling17:09
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anteayaso again something is happening with the db on that vm17:09
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insanidadeanteaya: yeah.17:10
anteayais that vm different in any way from the vm on which your centos + devstack is running?17:10
anteayabrb17:10
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insanidadeanteaya: it's a different vagrant box but the same kind of configuration in Vagrantfile.17:12
anteayacan I see the Vagrantfiles for both boxes?17:12
insanidadeanteaya: I delete the vagrant file for the CentOs box :(17:13
anteaya:(17:13
anteayahow can you bring it back up again without the vagrantfile?17:13
insanidadeanteaya: I shared the /opt/stack folder. I'd like to have access to the source files in my host machine. Can you think about any problem that would cause?17:14
anteayano, that shouldn't create a problem17:15
insanidadeanteaya: I can't. But it works in every horst I try. So I'm pretty confident I can retry it in this host too.17:15
anteayareally?17:15
anteayaI thought vagrant read the vagrantfile before bringing up the box17:15
anteayaperhaps I am wrong17:15
insanidadeI mean the Centos box.17:15
insanidadeyou are right.17:15
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anteayayes I mean the centos box too17:16
insanidadeI mean: the same process I use to bring the Centos machine up works everywhere.17:16
insanidadeto big changes in the Vagrantfile.17:16
anteayacan you paste the process17:16
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insanidadeI just vagrant init,increase the ammount of ram memory to use in Vagrantfile, save it, import the box, vagrant ssh into it, clone devstack, cd into devstack folder and ./stack.sh.17:17
anteayado you install any dependencies on the centos box before you run ~/devstack/.stack.sh?17:18
anteayacan I see the vagrantfile of the vm you are trying to get devstack running on ubuntu?17:19
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insanidadeanteaya: I don't install anything prior to running ./stack.sh. It tries to yum dependencies.17:19
insanidadeanteaya: I found the Vagrantfile for the Centos box: http://paste.openstack.org/show/46090/17:20
anteayaokay17:20
anteayagreat thanks17:20
insanidadeanteaya: and this is the Vagrantfile for the current machine I'm trying to configure devstack at: http://paste.openstack.org/show/46091/17:21
insanidadeanteaya: there's a minor difference in the networking config. should that matter that much ?17:21
insanidadeboth machines are capable of reaching internet.17:22
anteayait shouldn't17:22
anteayabut for the sake of exploration17:22
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anteayacan you bring up a vagrant box with ubuntu and use a Vagrantfile similar to this: http://paste.openstack.org/show/46090/17:23
anteayaso let's try not even increases the RAM for now17:23
anteayaincreasing17:23
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insanidadeok17:24
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anteayain the ubuntu vagrant file the indentation of the ruby is not exact, but I don't think that should matter17:26
anteayacan I see the vagrantfile before you bring the box up?17:27
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insanidadeanteaya: the same in //paste.openstack.org/show/46090/ . I just changed the config.vm.box to the one from the previous machine.17:29
anteayacan I see that edit then?17:30
anteayalet's ensure the syntax is correct17:30
insanidadehere you go: http://paste.openstack.org/show/46095/17:31
insanidadeeverything but the config.vm.box variable is commented out.17:31
insanidadeand it is set to 'ubuntu'17:32
anteayagreat17:32
anteayathanks for humouring me17:32
anteayalet's see what happens now17:32
anteayaso you are going to follow the steps in my blog post again, yes?17:32
insanidadedamn! remember that point where ./stack.sh got stuck?17:33
insanidadeit was still there. then I just pressed control+C so that I could start trying with the new Vagrantfile and the whole process just continued as if no problems had happened.17:34
insanidadedoesn't make any sense to me.17:34
anteayareally17:35
anteayawell let's see what happens17:35
anteayamakes no sense to me either17:38
insanidadethe logs are insane. there's a totall loss of confidence in this env I have here. Even if it tells me it successfullyinstalled, I'll prefer repeating it until things go the way we know they should be.17:40
insanidadesorry for my fat fingers :P17:41
anteayano worries17:41
anteayaI mistype all the time17:41
anteayalet's go again17:42
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insanidadeI think I'll destroy this vagrant box and create it again.17:42
insanidadewith that new vagrant file.17:42
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anteayaokay17:46
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anteayabrb18:00
insanidadesomething is annoying me:  Bad header line [IP: 91.189.91.13 80]18:04
insanidadethis messge keeps showing up18:04
insanidadeand the ./stack.sh process fails.18:04
insanidadeanyway. it failed again.18:05
insanidadeI'll try something else.18:05
anteayahmmmm18:08
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insanidadeanteaya: I'll investigate the ubuntu vm issue with devstack later. Something very weird happens and/or I'm missing something. I just started installing it in CentOs.19:25
insanidadeanteaya: and, by the way, in CentOs it installs RDO.19:25
insanidadeanteaya: thanks for helping me  :)19:25
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anteayaokay19:31
anteayayour are welcome19:31
anteayasorry we couldn't get it working19:31
anteayawhat is RDO?19:32
anteayas/your/you're19:32
insanidadeanteaya: Redhat's openstack19:32
anteayaoh19:32
insanidadeit's their product, basically19:32
anteayahow interesting19:32
anteayaso is it devstack or not?19:32
insanidadeanteaya: I might get back to that ubuntu issue later. Me and that issue have unfinished business now.19:33
anteayadevstack is the development environment, production openstack is different19:33
anteayayeah, I hear that19:33
insanidadeanteaya: It gives me the same stuff I found in ubuntu's devstack installatioin.19:34
insanidade*installation19:34
anteayado you have repos in /opt/stack?19:35
anteayado you have a tox.ini file in the project repos in /opt/stack?19:35
insanidadeyep19:35
anteayaokay looks like you are good to go19:35
insanidadeyou mean a tox.ini file for each of the repo folders, right ?19:37
anteayayes19:38
anteayafor instance logs won't have one19:38
insanidadeyep, they are there.19:38
anteayabut it is the logs from the projects, not a project itself19:38
anteayagreat19:38
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