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| anteaya | hey dolphm http://anteaya.info/blog/2013/09/01/installing-devstack-with-vagrant/ | 00:53 |
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| insanidade | hi all. I have a low memory machine in which I have vagrant + virtualbox with a devstack setup. Due to that low memory limitation, keystone takes too long trying to start up and then fails due to timeout. I'd like to increase that timeout (that would be ok for the time being). Would anyone let me know where that should be set ? | 01:23 |
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| anteaya | the timeout won't save you insanidade | 01:33 |
| anteaya | devstack needs 1.2G memory minimum or other things will fail | 01:33 |
| insanidade | anteaya: yeah...I'm searching and getting to that conclusion as well. | 01:33 |
| anteaya | I bashed my head against that wall for a week | 01:34 |
| anteaya | do you have any option of giving the vm 1.2G minimum? | 01:34 |
| insanidade | anteaya: I have that same setup on a windows machine and it runs. The difference is that the host machine has 4G. | 01:35 |
| anteaya | my latest blog post shows how to increase the RAM to the vagrant vm by editing the Vagrantfile | 01:35 |
| anteaya | that would be the reason | 01:35 |
| insanidade | here, I have a linux machine with 2G. 1 for the host and the remaining one for virtualbox. | 01:35 |
| anteaya | yeah | 01:35 |
| anteaya | can you increase the ram to the linux machine? | 01:35 |
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| insanidade | anteaya: yes, I've set my memory size in the vagrant file in the other setup (windows) | 01:36 |
| anteaya | great | 01:36 |
| insanidade | anteaya: I can try it here(linux env with 2G total) but things will probably go really slow. | 01:37 |
| anteaya | there are somethings that will run on devstack with 1G ram to the vm, but not neutron and keystone | 01:37 |
| anteaya | try to give the vm at least 1.2G | 01:37 |
| insanidade | anteaya: I'll try it. I'm not able to encrease the amount of memory for the physical host now. This is an old box and I'm thinking about setiing up something totally new for my lab. | 01:41 |
| anteaya | fair enough | 01:41 |
| anteaya | how is your flight? | 01:41 |
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| insanidade | old machine. core 2 quad, 2G ram, 200G hard disk. Gentoo for the host, vagrant + virtualbox (CentOs 6 as guest) | 01:49 |
| insanidade | just increased vm ram to 1.2G | 01:49 |
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| insanidade | anteaya: do you know any training/boot camps for developers? Most of the classes I see are fundamentals. | 01:50 |
| anteaya | have you considered ubuntu precise as the guest? | 01:51 |
| insanidade | anteaya: I haven't. | 01:51 |
| anteaya | devstack runs better on it, I do believe | 01:51 |
| anteaya | a training/boot camp for new openstack contributors you mean? | 01:51 |
| insanidade | anteaya: yes. or for individuals. independent developers too. | 01:52 |
| anteaya | hmmm, there are some companies running various training programs, I think mirantis has something and rackspace might have something too | 01:52 |
| anteaya | I don't know the curriculum or the instructors so I can't make a recommendation | 01:53 |
| insanidade | I know they have some introductory classes, most of them on descriptions of each service and on how to install them. | 01:53 |
| anteaya | yeah | 01:53 |
| insanidade | There's a lot of documentation around. | 01:53 |
| anteaya | yes | 01:53 |
| anteaya | I don't know if there is one that I can say is geared toward new contributors though | 01:54 |
| insanidade | But I miss some guide on how to develop. | 01:54 |
| insanidade | it's kind of an adventure :) | 01:55 |
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| insanidade | your post about pdb was key for me. | 01:55 |
| anteaya | I'm so glad | 01:55 |
| insanidade | so are other blogs. | 01:55 |
| anteaya | :D | 01:55 |
| anteaya | oh yes | 01:55 |
| anteaya | this is a feed of openstack blogs: http://planet.openstack.org/ | 01:56 |
| anteaya | you will find many writers writing about openstack topics | 01:56 |
| insanidade | I spent the whole day debugging neutron. I managed to instantiate a client but all next commands require new auth (just like the other services in Openstack) and I was not able to make it read my auth data. | 01:56 |
| pleia2 | insanidade: do you have any openstack groups around you? the ones where I am do a lot of workshops and things targeted at all levels, users and developers | 01:56 |
| morganfainberg | dolphm, ping, have a question for you. | 01:57 |
| insanidade | pleia2: afaik, there's only one small group in the south of my country. | 01:57 |
| morganfainberg | dolphm, if you're not too busy/enjoying a day off. | 01:57 |
| pleia2 | insanidade: ah, might be worth asking them too anyway, they may know of local options :) | 01:57 |
| insanidade | pleia2: things just started here. I believe I'm the only developer I know who's trying Openstack. | 01:57 |
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| insanidade | pleia2: I'll try contacting them but I know they are a small group who represents a company in the us for some classes and lectures. | 02:07 |
| insanidade | pleia2: that's a good start, tough. | 02:07 |
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| insanidade | anteaya: thanks for the feed of blogs | 02:08 |
| anteaya | np | 02:08 |
| anteaya | welcome to the group | 02:08 |
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| morganfainberg | insanidade, anteaya is awesome like that. | 02:09 |
| anteaya | *blush* | 02:09 |
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| insanidade | anteaya: keystone keeps refusing to start. vbox now with a bit more than 1.2G | 02:10 |
| anteaya | insanidade: can you post some output? | 02:11 |
| morganfainberg | insanidade, how is keystone refusing to start? output (paste.openstack.org for copy/paste) would be useful. | 02:11 |
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| insanidade | anteaya, morganfainberg: I'm trying to gatter some output. One sec, please. (By the way, it's about a timeout) | 02:13 |
| insanidade | (seems to be,actually) | 02:13 |
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| anteaya | k | 02:15 |
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| insanidade | anteaya, morganfainberg : I tried the command that starts up keystone and the output is: | 02:18 |
| insanidade | http://paste.openstack.org/show/45663/ | 02:18 |
| morganfainberg | insanidade, ah, you're missing a module it looks like. not sure how you got that far without paste installed. is this in a devstack or just trying to start keystone right after a clone? | 02:19 |
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| insanidade | morganfainberg: devstack. funny. I've tried the same set up on another vm (vagrant, virtualbox, same box, same conf) | 02:20 |
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| morganfainberg | insanidade, it isn't finding the "paste" module. That is very odd, devstack usually installs everything you need. can you provide the output of `pip freeze` please? i'm curious if somehow pip hasn't installed much of anything you need. | 02:21 |
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| morganfainberg | insanidade, the other option would be to re-stack (run stack.sh again). should resolve any odd dependencies. | 02:22 |
| morganfainberg | but i find it odd you got that far w/o paste installed. | 02:22 |
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| insanidade | morganfainberg: should I yum paste ? I've been repeating stack.sh for hours :) Same issue everytinme keystone tries to start up. Anyway, I'll show you my pip freeze output. | 02:24 |
| anteaya | morganfainberg: updated: http://anteaya.info/blog/2013/09/01/installing-devstack-with-vagrant/ | 02:24 |
| morganfainberg | insanidade, pip freeze first. lets not resorte to pasting yum output yet ;) | 02:24 |
| morganfainberg | anteaya, `vagrant resume` can be used in lieu of vagrant up --no-provision | 02:26 |
| morganfainberg | anteaya, but it looks good :) | 02:27 |
| anteaya | morganfainberg: all add that, I haven't had good success with vagrant resume on my system but I'll put it in | 02:27 |
| anteaya | and thanks | 02:27 |
| insanidade | morganfainberg: pip output: http://paste.openstack.org/show/45664/ | 02:27 |
| anteaya | s/all/I'll | 02:27 |
| morganfainberg | anteaya, i rarely use resume, so i'll trust you on that front | 02:27 |
| morganfainberg | anteaya, i usually vagrant up, do work, vagrant destroy | 02:27 |
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| anteaya | morganfainberg: I added it, so the reader can choose for themselves | 02:30 |
| anteaya | options rock | 02:30 |
| anteaya | added | 02:30 |
| morganfainberg | insanidade, i don't see how devstack got this far, everything requires "paste". and clearly it is missing from your pip-requires. | 02:30 |
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| morganfainberg | erm | 02:30 |
| morganfainberg | pip freeze | 02:30 |
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| insanidade | morganfainberg: should I yum install it ? | 02:30 |
| anteaya | insanidade: when was the last time you cloned devstack? | 02:31 |
| insanidade | anteaya: in this machine, one week ago. | 02:32 |
| morganfainberg | anteaya, that should be recent enough. | 02:32 |
| anteaya | okay | 02:33 |
| insanidade | haven't done anything different from the other vm where I run devstack. | 02:33 |
| insanidade | well, only vagrant is different. | 02:34 |
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| morganfainberg | insanidade, hrm. i am baffled. you could just `sudo pip install paste` for an immediate fix. but | 02:35 |
| morganfainberg | not sure how old/new the yum version would be. | 02:36 |
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| anteaya | I have to pack it in for the night | 02:42 |
| anteaya | pleasure to work with you both insanidade and morganfainberg | 02:43 |
| anteaya | talk to you later | 02:43 |
| morganfainberg | anteaya, take care | 02:43 |
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| insanidade | anteaya: see ya. Thanks. | 02:46 |
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| insanidade | I think I'll git pull this devstack folder I have here... | 02:48 |
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| insanidade | morganfainberg: are you there ? | 03:16 |
| morganfainberg | insanidade, i am. | 03:16 |
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| insanidade | morganfainberg: please let me show you something | 03:17 |
| morganfainberg | insanidade, sure | 03:17 |
| insanidade | morganfainberg: http://paste.openstack.org/show/45665/ | 03:17 |
| insanidade | morganfainberg: last lines | 03:17 |
| morganfainberg | insanidade, i think you have an unhappy VM. | 03:18 |
| morganfainberg | insanidade, this CentOS, Fedora, Scientific? | 03:18 |
| insanidade | morganfainberg: centOs | 03:18 |
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| morganfainberg | insanidade, yeah something very odd in that VM. your shared library there is having issues. | 03:20 |
| morganfainberg | insanidade, i'm not sure what to tell you, you could try and re-install greenlet. | 03:21 |
| insanidade | morganfainberg: that's annoying. I'll create another machine if that last attempt does not succeed. | 03:24 |
| morganfainberg | insanidade, yeah, something seems off with this VM, the kinds of issues you're running into are things i've not seen in any of my VMs over the last ~1.5 years. but I haven't worked with CentOS in this regard. mostly Fedora and Ubuntu. | 03:25 |
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| insanidade | morganfainberg: the weird thing is that I've set a very similar environment on another host machine. vagrant + virtualbox, using the same .box file (CentOs) and just clonned devstack repo. | 03:32 |
| morganfainberg | insanidade, it's an odd problem. | 03:36 |
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| insanidade | morganfainberg: anyway. thanks for the support. | 03:39 |
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| insanidade | morganfainberg: what about precise64 (ubuntu)? would you recommend it ? | 04:01 |
| morganfainberg | insanidade, i've had no issues using 12.04 (precise) | 04:01 |
| morganfainberg | insanidade, it's usually pretty good. | 04:02 |
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| morganfainberg | insanidade, i develop on a combination of fedora 18 and ubuntu (12.04 and 13.04) | 04:03 |
| insanidade | morganfainberg: I'm installing it. | 04:03 |
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| EmilienM | salv-orlando: ping | 08:09 |
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| salv-orlando | hi there | 08:09 |
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| EmilienM | salv-orlando: hey, I would like to take 2 min of your time to discuss about L3 in Neutron, can you ? | 08:10 |
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| salv-orlando | sure | 08:10 |
| salv-orlando | is that something for havana or next release? | 08:10 |
| EmilienM | not havana, maybe icehouse | 08:10 |
| salv-orlando | ok | 08:10 |
| EmilienM | salv-orlando: I'm working here on bring Neutron L3 agent highly available with OVS or Linux bridge plugin. | 08:11 |
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| EmilienM | salv-orlando: I have two ideas now and one of them that I've implemented for testing purpose. | 08:11 |
| EmilienM | salv-orlando: the first one is a neutron-l3-healthcheck service which checks if a l3 agent is alive every X seconds. If not, it reschedule virtual routers somewhere else. | 08:12 |
| EmilienM | I have a basic prototype, it's working and only for testing purpose now. I'm wondering if it deserves a blueprint / ML thread. | 08:13 |
| salv-orlando | yes definitely. Multi-host is probably the one thing we seem to not be sure re:approach. | 08:13 |
| EmilienM | salv-orlando: the second idea is to implement VRRP like some SDN controllers already manage (Ryu, etc) | 08:13 |
| salv-orlando | I think you're aware we also have another patch for it:https://review.openstack.org/#/c/24771/ | 08:13 |
| EmilienM | i.e. salv-orlando: I'm working here on bringh | 08:13 |
| salv-orlando | which pretty much is a nova porting. And this was deemed not really what we're looking for back in Portland | 08:13 |
| EmilienM | ops wrong copy paste | 08:13 |
| EmilienM | i.e. https://github.com/osrg/ryu/wiki/Test-VRRP | 08:14 |
| * EmilienM looking at the patch | 08:14 | |
| EmilienM | salv-orlando: yeah but it's *only* for DHCP | 08:14 |
| EmilienM | salv-orlando: afik | 08:14 |
| salv-orlando | I seem to recall that patch is based on having a l3 agent on each compute node (I think there's another one for dhcp). In my opinion however we should follow a different approach wrt nova | 08:15 |
| EmilienM | salv-orlando: sure. I'm not for the old multi host approach. Since we have network virtualization, we should be able to do better | 08:15 |
| salv-orlando | a monitor service which checks for agent status and ensures a maximum failover time by polling is a viable idea. However, the monitor itself would become the spof. | 08:15 |
| salv-orlando | What about leveraging vrrp? It seems this is your second idea? | 08:15 |
| EmilienM | salv-orlando: yep | 08:15 |
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| EmilienM | salv-orlando: we have here some discussions about that, and they are the 2 options for deployments. | 08:16 |
| EmilienM | salv-orlando: about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/24771/ -> do you think that will be merged ? | 08:17 |
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| salv-orlando | I am not sure at this stage. | 08:18 |
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| EmilienM | salv-orlando: I understand. | 08:19 |
| EmilienM | salv-orlando: thx for your thoughts | 08:19 |
| salv-orlando | I reckon VRRP, if properly handled, would allow a very fast failover | 08:19 |
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| pasquier-s | EmilienM: do you know this script? https://github.com/stackforge/cookbook-openstack-network/blob/master/files/default/quantum-ha-tool.py | 08:19 |
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| salv-orlando | EmilienM: also, it might be useful at it would require less management burden. | 08:20 |
| EmilienM | pasquier-s: no, what is it doing ? | 08:20 |
| EmilienM | pasquier-s: I'm not for scripts, but for upstream patches. Thanks anyway | 08:21 |
| pasquier-s | EmilienM: reschedule dead L3/DHCP agents to live nodes | 08:21 |
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| EmilienM | pasquier-s: yeah exactly like I did in my prototype, but not what I prefer | 08:21 |
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| EmilienM | salv-orlando: sure, do you think I could start a discussion on the openstack-dev ML or is there a current thread you would prefer I continue ? | 08:22 |
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| salv-orlando | I don't remember of any thread on which there have been recent posts. It won't harm starting a new one. | 08:22 |
| EmilienM | salv-orlando: far enough, thx a lot :) let's start the work now | 08:23 |
| salv-orlando | If you have code, it would be really helpful if you can point us to it. A single line of code is worth more than 1,000 words. | 08:23 |
| salv-orlando | Unless it's a docstring | 08:23 |
| EmilienM | salv-orlando: all the code we produce is open-source. For the prototype, let me clean it before :) we did it in a few time | 08:24 |
| salv-orlando | ok | 08:24 |
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| EmilienM | salv-orlando: I'll let you know asap | 08:26 |
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| EmilienM | pasquier-s: can we talk in PM about https://github.com/stackforge/cookbook-openstack-network/blob/master/files/default/quantum-ha-tool.py ? | 09:10 |
| pasquier-s | EmilienM: of course but I've not used it yet | 09:11 |
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| ttx | flaper87: hi! Was wondering how far away you were with Oslo's cache-backend-abstraction | 09:28 |
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| ttx | flaper87: it's a bit unclear looking at the linked reviews | 09:28 |
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| flaper87 | ttx: it's done, it needs review. I got some reviews from Ben lately and addressed its comments: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/32544/ | 09:29 |
| ttx | ok, that's the final review for it ? | 09:29 |
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| flaper87 | The blueprint has 3 Work Items and there are patches for 2 of them, TBH, I think it'd be worth pulling redis work item out of the cache blueprint | 09:30 |
| EmilienM | salv-orlando: i've started to document neutron highly available, I would love to have some review from neutron core devs. Again if you have some time :) > https://review.openstack.org/#/c/44631/ | 09:30 |
| flaper87 | ttx: re final review: I hope so :) | 09:30 |
| flaper87 | s/its comments/his comments/ * (spleepy) | 09:31 |
| ttx | flaper87: ok thx for the update ! | 09:32 |
| flaper87 | ttx: np, anytime | 09:32 |
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| salv-orlando | EmilienM: This might be dumb, but why is the format plain text and not docbook? | 09:35 |
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| ttx | henrynash: around ? Was wondering if https://review.openstack.org/#/c/43257/ was all that was missing from filtering-backend-support... you mention "Partially Implements" in the commit message... | 09:36 |
| EmilienM | salv-orlando: the first commiter of this guide started the work like this, and it never changed. Doc team was agree afik | 09:36 |
| salv-orlando | sound cool to me. | 09:36 |
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| ttx | flaper87: just another question... you say "patches for 2 out of 3 work items"... where is the patch for the 2nd one ? Already merged ? | 09:39 |
| henrynash | ttx: it fully implements filtering, but Dolph asked me to split out the list liming into a separate [atch…which I will post shortly | 09:39 |
| henrynash | maybe I should split the bp as well | 09:39 |
| henrynash | ttx: maybe I should split the bp as well | 09:39 |
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| henrynash | ttx: just thought it was late to do that :-) | 09:40 |
| ttx | henrynash: if it's a separate "feature", probably | 09:40 |
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| ttx | henrynash: if it's the result of a review code split, I think it's alright | 09:40 |
| ttx | (i.e. not brand-new code to review) | 09:41 |
| henrynash | ttx: it was the result of code review... | 09:41 |
| henrynash | ttx: previous version of code had filtering and list limiting combined] | 09:41 |
| ttx | henrynash: probably makes sense to split, yes | 09:41 |
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| henrynash | ttx: split the bp? | 09:43 |
| ttx | henrynash: yes | 09:44 |
| henrynash | ttx: ok, will do | 09:44 |
| ttx | will triage it up since it's just a split | 09:44 |
| ttx | henrynash: ping me with link when done :) | 09:44 |
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| henrynash | ttx: ok | 09:45 |
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| ttx | jd__: hi! Is api-group-by fully implemented with the merging of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/43043/ ? | 09:49 |
| jd__ | ttx: no we need the API part which is WIP at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/44130/ | 09:50 |
| henrynash | ttx: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/keystone/+spec/list-limiting | 09:50 |
| ttx | jd__: ack | 09:50 |
| henrynash | ttx: code is ready, just need to rebase, then will post and mark for review (it was already reviews of course as part of the previous combined patch) | 09:50 |
| flaper87 | ttx: nope, the second patch depends on the one implementing the cache API. The second patch implements a backend for memcached | 09:51 |
| ttx | henrynash: looks good, thx | 09:51 |
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| ttx | flaper87: ok, thx | 09:53 |
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| henrynash | ttx: ok, split complete, both sets of code now in review again, commit messaged updated | 10:05 |
| abdul_ | Hey, I am an undergrad student working on openstack. we are planning to develop a hybrid cloud framework for Openstack. We have registered a blueprint with nova. (https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/hybrid-cloud-framework). I wanted to know if we are going about the right way. And also how to go about the code workflow. Thank you. | 10:06 |
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| ttx | henrynash: cool | 10:06 |
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| eglynn | russellb: np | 13:19 |
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| henrynash | dolphm: just to let you know I reposted the filter patch with changes that hopefully help with the issue you had | 13:21 |
| dolphm | henrynash: i'll check it out | 13:21 |
| henrynash | dolphm: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/43257/ | 13:22 |
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| henrynash | dolphm: I split out the list limiting into a separate path and provide structure to the handling if filtering (and in the future pagination) parameters between controller and driver | 13:22 |
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| alexpilotti | dansmith Hi Dan, added the bug: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/39195/ | 13:59 |
| alexpilotti | dansmith: ops, meant: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1220256 | 14:00 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1220256 in nova "Hyper-V driver needs tests for WMI WQL instructions" [Undecided,New] | 14:00 |
| ayoung | henrynash, I'm sory to be so harsh about the filtering thing. I'm just not convinced that we are implementing the SQL binding the right way | 14:00 |
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| ayoung | henrynash, If I had my druthers, we would not let this code path go through the compiler. If we could do prepared statments, and then apply the filters, I would be fine with it. | 14:01 |
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| dansmith | alexpilotti: thank | 14:03 |
| dansmith | s | 14:03 |
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| ayoung | morganfainberg, are you done with https://blueprints.launchpad.net/keystone/+spec/caching-layer-for-driver-calls ? | 14:11 |
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| henrynash | ayoung: I understand that point of view, it's just that I haven't found anyway of breaking it yet…I can break it by typing raw SQL at, say, MySQL…but not via SQLAlchemy & filters | 14:13 |
| ayoung | henrynash, you willing to Bet the Farm on that? | 14:13 |
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| ayoung | henrynash, I don't trust SQL Alchemy | 14:14 |
| ayoung | It has to make too many compromises to account for too many different drivers to be 100% secure against these attacks. We need a comprehensive reason to say "this is good" | 14:14 |
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| ayoung | If the review from Joel Coffman had been more in depth, I'd feel a bit more confident | 14:16 |
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| dstanek | /win 3 | 14:17 |
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| henrynash | ayoung: so if we're really going to say…."we don't trust SQLAlchemy" and have to compile filters ourselves, then that's obviously an extreme point of view, and would have radical impact on how this is done. | 14:18 |
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| henrynash | ayoung: not saying that isn't a viable approach….jsut extreme :-) | 14:18 |
| ayoung | henrynash, not, it is not extrame. in that we are not tnecessarily using SQL A in the approved manner this way | 14:19 |
| ayoung | SQL A is fine, but it does not exp[licitly guard against SQL injection attacks when doing appl: | 14:19 |
| ayoung | It can't | 14:19 |
| ayoung | THe best it can do is escape certain characters and hope for the bnest | 14:20 |
| henrynash | ayoung: well it appears to be doing something | 14:20 |
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| ayoung | henrynash, "Damned by faint praise?" | 14:20 |
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| henrynash | a filter of, say, name=henry | 14:21 |
| bknudson | sqlalchemy doesn't use bound parameters? | 14:21 |
| ayoung | I'd hate to have that written on my evaluation review: Adam appears to be doing something.... | 14:21 |
| henrynash | turns into……SELECT……WHERE name=:name1 | 14:21 |
| insanidade | hi. would anyone please help me with the following issue? http://paste.openstack.org/show/45675/ | 14:21 |
| henrynash | where I assume :name1 is some kind of late bound parameter (does anyone know?) | 14:21 |
| insanidade | I'm not sure about what auth is missing. | 14:22 |
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| bknudson | henrynash: is this mysql? | 14:22 |
| ayoung | bknudson, I'm not sure if waht SQL A calls bound parameters are applied to a prepared statement or not in this case | 14:22 |
| ayoung | bknudson, it needs to work with MySQL and with Postgresql | 14:22 |
| henrynash | bknudson: that's the query that gets built by doing a filter by() or filter() in sqlalchmeny | 14:23 |
| ayoung | bknudson, I'll linke | 14:23 |
| henrynash | bknudson: I think it's the same in all DBs | 14:23 |
| ayoung | bknudson, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/43257/30/keystone/common/sql/core.py | 14:23 |
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| anteaya | insanidade: you are unauthorized | 14:26 |
| anteaya | insanidade: are you the admin user? | 14:26 |
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| anteaya | and good morning | 14:27 |
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| bknudson | ayoung henrynash: is the concern more the complexity? supporting inexact filters? (if only exact match was supported then wouldn't be a concern) | 14:28 |
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| henrynash | bknudson: so in exacts are disabled anyway for havana | 14:28 |
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| insanidade | anteaya: yes. I'd like to know that info is missing. it works with 'neutron net-create' but does'n work within the python client. | 14:29 |
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| henrynash | bknudson: INEXACT_FILTERS_SUPPORTED = [] in listdirectives.py | 14:30 |
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| bknudson | henrynash: if there's a problem in inexact filters then would be a security exposure even if it was disabled by default. | 14:30 |
| anteaya | insanidade: hmmm, well if you are the admin user and you are still unauthorized then I have to say I don't know what information is missing | 14:30 |
| anteaya | insanidade: can you paste the output when it works with neutron net-create? | 14:31 |
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| bknudson | this was the same discussion had on the mailing list about postponing key distribution | 14:31 |
| insanidade | anteaya: sure. just a sec. | 14:32 |
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| anteaya | k | 14:32 |
| henrynash | bknudson: it's disabled in code, not by config file. The code is there so a) people cash see how we wold use ListDirectives for this sort of thing (which was one of Dolphm's issues, and b) so we can quickly enable for IceHouse | 14:32 |
| bknudson | henrynash ayoung: so the question is really about line 364 -- query = query.filter_by(**filter_dict) | 14:34 |
| bknudson | does this allow for an injection attack? | 14:34 |
| bknudson | (values are not properly escaped or parameter markers are not use) | 14:34 |
| ayoung | bknudson, Yeah | 14:35 |
| ayoung | bknudson, I don't think exact or inexact really will make a difference | 14:35 |
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| ayoung | It is the fact that we are taking what comes from the URL and passing it to the SQL compiler that scares me | 14:35 |
| henrynash | bknudson: you could also write this as (something like) query.filter(column(value)…but I think the sql it generates is the same | 14:36 |
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| ayoung | bknudson, what I would like is a reasoned explanation why that is not the case. | 14:36 |
| bknudson | is this the first time we've ever done this? don't we take values from url all the time? (e.g., user IDs and stuff) | 14:36 |
| henrynash | ayoung: so let;s be clear... | 14:36 |
| ayoung | bknudson, yes, but one word at a time. | 14:36 |
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| henrynash | ayoungL we are taking part of a url and placing it in the value of a WHERE clause | 14:37 |
| insanidade | anteaya: take a look: http://paste.openstack.org/show/45676/ | 14:37 |
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| henrynash | bknudson: so other projects do it exactly this what (nova, glance), I guess the question is - should we hold ourselves to a higher standard | 14:38 |
| henrynash | bknduson: (…do it exactly this way...) | 14:38 |
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| * anteaya looks | 14:39 | |
| bknudson | would it be good enough to add testcases that attempt the SQL injection? | 14:39 |
| henrynash | bknudson: I have indeed added some of those... | 14:40 |
| ayoung | henrynash, I think I found your car. http://www.abluestar.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/for_traffic_cameras.jpg | 14:40 |
| anteaya | insanidade: try it will the actual auth token, you have "X-Auth-Token: qwe123" in the paste and that is not the actual auth token | 14:40 |
| henrynash | ayoung: nice!! | 14:41 |
| henrynash | bknudson: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/43257/30/keystone/tests/test_v3_filters.py see end of file | 14:41 |
| henrynash | bknudson: also some in test_backend.py | 14:41 |
| anteaya | s/will/with | 14:41 |
| insanidade | anteaya: but that's teh value I've set in the OS_TOKEN variable. shuldn't that work ? | 14:42 |
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| henrynash | bknudson: but I guess neither ayoung or I are "SQL injection experts"…which is ayoung's point | 14:42 |
| bknudson | henrynash: did you try it with mysql and postgresql? | 14:42 |
| henrynash | bknudson: yes | 14:42 |
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| anteaya | insanidade: this is part of the token used to authenticate to create the oraf network: "X-Auth-Token: MIIRdAYJKoZIhvcNAQcCoIIRZTCCEWECAQExCTAHBgUrDgMCGjCCD8oGCSqGSIb3DQEHAaCCD7sEgg+ | 14:43 |
| anteaya | i would give that a try and see what happens | 14:43 |
| anteaya | use the entire auth token though | 14:43 |
| henrynash | bknudson: I also type the same injection test code in a raw mysql prompt and it did then have bad effects…(i.e. to show the sql injection text was valid attack code) | 14:43 |
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| bknudson | henrynash: not sure what more you can do. | 14:43 |
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| bknudson | if there's a bug it's in sqlalchemy | 14:44 |
| AGiardini-away | Hey guys. in https://github.com/openstack/requirements/blob/stable/grizzly/tools/pip-requires why the required django version is django>=1.4,<1.6 ? I think it should be django>=1.4,<1.5 ? Am i missing something? For the grizzly version django shoud be <1.5 | 14:44 |
| AGiardini-away | \nick AGiardini | 14:44 |
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| AGiardini | ops :) | 14:44 |
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| insanidade | anteaya: that I understand. But shouldn't that token come from the auth process from keystone ? | 14:45 |
| anteaya | ah, let's ask the keystone guys | 14:45 |
| anteaya | keystone guys? ^ | 14:46 |
| henrynash | bknudson: would value any general input you have on latest filter patch…to respond to concerns from others, the parameters passed from controller to drive have changed pretty radically. | 14:46 |
| insanidade | anteaya: similar to your blog about using nova's client, you used some values for auth, right? they first authenticate against keystone, and then the nova tasks shall be executed once authorized, right? | 14:46 |
| henrynash | bknduson: (and the _in_out name wasn't popular, I'm afraid!) | 14:46 |
| henrynash | bknudson: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/43257/ | 14:47 |
| bknudson | henrynash: I'll look at it this afternoon | 14:47 |
| henrynash | bknudson: much appreciated | 14:47 |
| anteaya | insanidade: the first curl request returns the auth token, the second request uses the auth token to talk to nova | 14:47 |
| insanidade | by "for auth", I mean: for instantiating a nova client. for that purpose, you used admin, admin's password, a tenant and so forth. | 14:47 |
| anteaya | insanidade: yes if I remember correctly, I was admin | 14:48 |
| dolphm | bknudson: henrynash: can one of ya'll also check out the last two caching patches? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/43609/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/44408/ | 14:48 |
| insanidade | anteaya: yes. your blog is opened right now in front of my eyes :P | 14:48 |
| anteaya | I just sourced openrc as admin `source ~/devstack/openrc admin` | 14:48 |
| anteaya | :D | 14:48 |
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| insanidade | anteaya: one more thing:the client constructor you used takes 4 args for auth. The one I use for neutron takes only one, which is the API version. whenever I try to pass more args, it fails to return a valid instance. | 14:50 |
| anteaya | insanidade: yes, I remember from yesterday, the only thing I could suggest if you could track down any neutron devs who might be able to shed some light on why this is | 14:50 |
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| anteaya | unfortunately I don't know anyone who works on neutron | 14:51 |
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| anteaya | insanidade: I don't feel like I am being very helpful but unfortunately, right now I am out of ideas | 14:54 |
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| henrynash | morganfainberg, ayoung, gyee: and other comments on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/43257/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/44836/ would be much appreciated | 15:00 |
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| jaypipes | what the heck is firestack? | 15:04 |
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| BobBall | firestack is used by smokestack | 15:05 |
| BobBall | *grin* | 15:06 |
| BobBall | creates the packages and puppet configs I think | 15:06 |
| BobBall | dprince would be able to give a cleaner definition | 15:06 |
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| dprince | jaypipes: firestack is just what I renamed the old openstack-vpc from long ago. | 15:07 |
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| dprince | jaypipes: just seemed to fit /w SmokeStack better | 15:07 |
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| roaet | I'm scared to restart my devstack machine.. but is it as simple as rebooting it and then ./rejoin-stack? | 15:12 |
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| vkmc | roaet, Yeah, just reboot and run ./stack again | 15:13 |
| roaet | vkmc: run ./stack? Wouldn't that pull down all the masters again? I don't want to lose my changed. | 15:13 |
| roaet | changes* | 15:13 |
| anteaya | roaet: set RECLONE=no in ~devstack/localrc | 15:14 |
| anteaya | before you ./stack.sh | 15:14 |
| anteaya | turning off a vm shuts down devstack services so you have to restart them | 15:15 |
| anteaya | if you are on kvm or similar you can suspend the vm so devstack will be running when you bring it up again | 15:15 |
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| insanidade | anteaya: no worries. I'll probably find a solution and will let everyone know :) | 15:16 |
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| anteaya | insanidade: looking forward to it | 15:16 |
| anteaya | :D | 15:16 |
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| jaypipes | dprince: ah! :) ok then! | 15:19 |
| enikanorov-w | amotoki: salv-orlando: looks like I've resolved your comments folks | 15:19 |
| roaet | anteaya: thanks for the info, always so helpful! | 15:20 |
| jaypipes | dprince: and agreed, goes well with SmokeStack :) | 15:20 |
| anteaya | roaet: I try | 15:20 |
| roaet | Alright, here we go. Hoping it doesn't lose changes. *crosses fingers* | 15:21 |
| roaet | ls | 15:21 |
| roaet | err ignore that :P | 15:21 |
| anteaya | vkmc knows a lot too, roaet, I just beat her to the localrc man page this time: http://devstack.org/localrc.html | 15:21 |
| anteaya | roaet: go you | 15:21 |
| roaet | I'll keep that up. | 15:22 |
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| roaet | anteaya: it worked. Thank you. Had to give the thing more memory. Devstack is hungry. | 15:36 |
| anteaya | yay! | 15:36 |
| anteaya | devstack likes the memory yes | 15:36 |
| anteaya | minimum of 1.2G RAM and more if you can afford it | 15:36 |
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| alexpilotti | russellb hi | 15:38 |
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| roaet | anteaya: I was getting "cannot allocate memory" errors during unit tests (unless that is what they were supposed to do) with 2GB | 15:39 |
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| anteaya | roaet: really? | 15:44 |
| anteaya | with 2G? | 15:45 |
| anteaya | do you remember what tests? | 15:45 |
| anteaya | do you have any output you could put in a paste? | 15:45 |
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| roaet | No. I restarted and now my laptop is dying pretty bad (running unit tests with 4GB.. apparently too much for this laptop). | 15:45 |
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| anteaya | how much RAM does the whole laptop have? | 15:46 |
| roaet | 8GB. | 15:46 |
| roaet | Ah. Spotlight was indexing. +1 spotlight. | 15:46 |
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| anteaya | so the laptop has 8G you have 4G on the devstack vm and you are having performance issues? | 15:46 |
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| anteaya | what is spotlight? | 15:47 |
| roaet | It is OS X's system index service that allows you to search for stuff quickly. | 15:47 |
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| anteaya | ah | 15:47 |
| roaet | It is a pretty hefty service that tends to run at the most inopportune times. | 15:47 |
| anteaya | sounds like fun | 15:48 |
| AGiardini | roaet: Which virtualization software are you usign? | 15:48 |
| anteaya | so if we account for spotlight | 15:48 |
| AGiardini | using | 15:48 |
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| anteaya | do you still feel the can't allocate memory issues with 2G RAM for the vm was still related to devstack? | 15:48 |
| roaet | AGiardini: VMWare. anteaya I cannot be certain anymore. Might have been spotlight all along. | 15:49 |
| anteaya | okay | 15:49 |
| anteaya | well if you feel like doing another vm with 2G and see memory issues when running tests, I would be interested in viewing the output | 15:50 |
| anteaya | if spotlight isn't indexing concurrently | 15:50 |
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| dolphm | henrynash: i presume this is still an issue? it's targeted at havana https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/1201487 | 16:04 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1201487 in keystone "listing projects for a user omits those that only have group related roles" [High,Triaged] | 16:04 |
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| anteaya | dolphm: in response to your request last week: http://anteaya.info/blog/2013/09/01/installing-devstack-with-vagrant/ | 16:08 |
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| dolphm | anteaya: hrm, it's not really the installation process i was specifically looking for docs on... although this seems to do a great job of explaining 'why' in a lot of cases, which is invaluable | 16:11 |
| anteaya | okay | 16:11 |
| anteaya | what details of devstack installation where you looking for? | 16:11 |
| dolphm | anteaya: i was looking for a doc that explained how developers should actually use devstack once it's installed | 16:11 |
| anteaya | ah okay | 16:11 |
| anteaya | how to edit localrc | 16:11 |
| dolphm | anteaya: i.e. how to go from stack.rc to git-review | 16:12 |
| anteaya | how to use screen to view the service logs | 16:12 |
| anteaya | okay | 16:12 |
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| anteaya | I was thinking I needed to do a follow up post to this one | 16:12 |
| anteaya | so let me work on the bridge part | 16:12 |
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| anteaya | this might end up being a 3 part series | 16:12 |
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| anteaya | so from this we can assume the majority of folks will have a running devstack on a vm | 16:13 |
| anteaya | then we have to get them into a project and running tests, can I use keystone as an example? | 16:13 |
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| anteaya | and then get them creating a topic branch and submitting a patch, I think that will be the third post | 16:14 |
| dolphm | anteaya: cool | 16:14 |
| dolphm | anteaya: and sure! | 16:14 |
| anteaya | okay, let me work on post 2 | 16:14 |
| anteaya | okay thanks | 16:14 |
| dolphm | henrynash: the cache change you approved is dependent on this one- https://review.openstack.org/#/c/43609/ | 16:15 |
| anteaya | it takes me a few days to pull pieces together, I am not the fastest blog post composer | 16:15 |
| dolphm | anteaya: that's a good thing :) | 16:16 |
| anteaya | oh okay, great | 16:16 |
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| henrynash | dolphm: will look shortly | 16:28 |
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| dperaza | need some help understanding how stable/havana will be cut? | 16:47 |
| dperaza | is it just comming out of master on 9/4? | 16:48 |
| briancline | totally just blue-skying this, realizing it's out of left field and probably Not Advisable even if possible, but is it feasible at this point to run individual openstack services within their own LXC containers? | 16:48 |
| dperaza | does anyone know what is the timeframe of the cut? | 16:48 |
| clarkb | dperaza: ttx should know | 16:48 |
| dperaza | ttx: ^^^^ | 16:49 |
| dperaza | can you help? | 16:49 |
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| clarkb | dperaza: I beleive that there is some flexibility on the actual time of the stable branch being cut and happens when individual projects have fixed known bugs and are ready to release | 16:52 |
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| clarkb | however stable/havana won't be cut until october iirc. H3 occurs on 9/4 | 16:53 |
| dperaza | so 9/4 may or may not be the date | 16:53 |
| dperaza | or for sure it won't | 16:53 |
| clarkb | for feature freeze and havana3 I think 9/4 is a fairly solid date | 16:53 |
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| dperaza | ok but that means not new feature | 16:53 |
| clarkb | but when exactly on that day it happens I am not sure. Of course now that I have said this ttx will say I have it all wrong :) | 16:54 |
| dperaza | is there a new branch | 16:54 |
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| dperaza | or things still going to master? | 16:54 |
| clarkb | there is a milestone proposed branch but msot things (bug fixes, etc) will continue to be made against master | 16:54 |
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| dperaza | I'm told ttx is in France and might be delayed to get to this question | 16:54 |
| dperaza | anyone else clarkb | 16:55 |
| clarkb | dperaza: ttx would be the definitive answer | 16:55 |
| clarkb | he should be around today as today is the big day of meetings | 16:55 |
| dperaza | ok | 16:55 |
| clarkb | dperaza: is there something in particular you need to know for? | 16:55 |
| dperaza | clarkb: do you know if stable/grizzly is cut from master whenever it happens? | 16:55 |
| dperaza | or some intermadiate milestone branch | 16:56 |
| dperaza | I need to know to be able to rebase both with minimun impact to continues integration | 16:56 |
| jpich | dperaza: This may provide additional information https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Havana_Release_Schedule | 16:56 |
| briancline | moreover, is the aforementioned something anyone has seen/heard of being attempted? | 16:56 |
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| dperaza | make sure we don't need to much manual steps | 16:56 |
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| dperaza | jpich: thanks but was not sure when the stable/havana branch is cut from this site | 16:58 |
| dperaza | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Havana_Release_Schedule | 16:58 |
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| dperaza | do you think stable/havana will be cut on October? | 16:59 |
| briancline | seems like it'd be on "Havana Release" (~17 Oct) | 16:59 |
| russellb | at some point during the RC time period | 16:59 |
| jpich | dperaza: It will be closer to the release date. People will keep fixing bugs on master during the RC phase | 16:59 |
| russellb | yep | 17:00 |
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| dperaza | jpich: thanks for info | 17:01 |
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| insanidade | question: why does a request to http://192.168.200.112:35357/v2.0/tokens | 17:23 |
| insanidade | return 404 ? | 17:23 |
| insanidade | that ip is my single node devstack address. | 17:23 |
| insanidade | shouldn't that be keystone internal address ? | 17:24 |
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| insanidade | I mean, until the 'v2.0' part. the '/tokens' is added by keystone. | 17:24 |
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| morganfainberg | ayoung, there is only one thing left to do on that BP, and that is an optional 1 line-change. | 17:34 |
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| morganfainberg | ayoung, i did load testing this weekend and an explicit refresh of the revocation list is a less-than-optimal choice. | 17:35 |
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| morganfainberg | ayoung, it still performs better than no-cache if someone is doing mass create/revocations, but still not great. | 17:35 |
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| ayoung | morganfainberg, I am totally OK with that | 17:36 |
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| ayoung | I suspect your "Less than optimal" is still orders of Magnitude greater than what we have now | 17:37 |
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| ayoung | morganfainberg, and, I assume, you tested against MySQL, which has issues with large deletes, so I suspect that it is just trading one performance hit for another | 17:37 |
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| morganfainberg | ayoung, well. sortof. | 17:38 |
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| morganfainberg | ayoung, at a certain point you can saturate the lock contention | 17:38 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, since a revocation then also has to rebuild the list. it's a lot better to just invalidate. | 17:39 |
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| morganfainberg | ayoung, but it is MUCH better when you have SQL actions going on. | 17:39 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, in icehouse i'm thinking we move the cache beyond the crypto signing section | 17:40 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung so we don't need to re-sign the same data everytime. | 17:41 |
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| ayoung | yes. | 17:46 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, i'll open a couple low-prio bugs on this so we can track it. | 17:47 |
| ayoung | morganfainberg, we should not be signing the same data every time. If a new revocation comes in, we should be generating a new list and signing it. No? | 17:47 |
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| ayoung | Or you mean, each revoation event gets signed separately? | 17:48 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, correct. signing happens at the controller for the revocation list | 17:48 |
| ayoung | morganfainberg, that ^^ is a good idea | 17:48 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, i am currently caching at the manager/driver | 17:48 |
| morganfainberg | this is one case where pulling that down a layer would help. | 17:48 |
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| ayoung | morganfainberg, so...next release, when we publish revocation events, we can sign each one....that puts the onus on the consumer to individually unwrap those signatures...but maybe we can make the signature optional | 17:49 |
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| morganfainberg | ayoung, yes. | 17:50 |
| ayoung | I would suspect that signing the revocation events for an online lookup is just overhead | 17:50 |
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| ayoung | the only reason to sign them is to be able to publish them between Keystone servers | 17:50 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, well if we're putting it on a notification bus, signing (same reason KDS is a good idea) is likely a good idea | 17:51 |
| ayoung | morganfainberg, true | 17:51 |
| ayoung | but then that would be on an individual event | 17:51 |
| ayoung | not on the overall list | 17:51 |
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| ayoung | but...we can regenerate the list on demand...and if most consumers are getting revocation events via the message bus, the signed versions will be relatively rare | 17:52 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, it might make sense to still sign the whole list, prevents mitm attacks. (not super likely, but still prob. a good idea) | 17:52 |
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| ayoung | but could still lead to churn with a malicious user :create,delete, fetch | 17:52 |
| morganfainberg | yes. | 17:53 |
| morganfainberg | i think that gets solved with API limits | 17:53 |
| morganfainberg | request limits* | 17:53 |
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| dolphm | insanidade: depends on the request method, at least | 18:00 |
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| insanidade | dolphm: sorry. my bad. | 18:31 |
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| dolphm | ayoung: do you have the kds api / impl review links handy? | 18:32 |
| ayoung | sure | 18:33 |
| dolphm | ayoung: i'd like to get them on the agenda for the next meeting | 18:33 |
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| ayoung | dolphm, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/40692/ | 18:33 |
| ayoung | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/37118/ | 18:33 |
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| ayoung | dolphm, maybe we should have general buckets for the sessions. tokens. Identity and, authentication, new extensions | 19:02 |
| ttx | dperaza: we cut the havana release branch a few days before the RC1 publication, which varies between projects ("when ready") | 19:03 |
| ttx | dperaza1: that branch becomes stable/havana at release time (Oct 14) | 19:03 |
| henrynash | gyee: so how about a compromise….what if I placed any non-filtering, non paginates into a separate iterable store, that you could then enumerate…. | 19:04 |
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| henrynash | gyee: that way, we don't pass around the url, and actually allow to build extensions in a structured way | 19:04 |
| gyee | henrynash, that's would be fine | 19:04 |
| gyee | I need a way to reconstruct the entire query string | 19:04 |
| henrynash | gyee: ok | 19:05 |
| henrynash | I'll propose something later | 19:05 |
| henrynash | (today) | 19:05 |
| gyee | henrynash, thanks | 19:05 |
| dolphm | ttx: ack, thank you sir | 19:05 |
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| stevemar | ayoung: not a bad idea | 19:06 |
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| ttx | dperaza, dolphm: so master keeps on being havana (and feature frozen) until we can get the RC1 buglist down to 0. | 19:06 |
| stevemar | ayoung: the usual 1hr block might not be enough time though | 19:06 |
| dperaza1 | ttx: so at that point stable/havana is cut | 19:07 |
| dolphm | dperaza1: release-proposed first | 19:08 |
| dperaza1 | when RC1 buglist gets to 0? | 19:08 |
| dolphm | dperaza1: ah, yeah that's time for stable/havana | 19:08 |
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| dolphm | err | 19:08 |
| ttx | dperaza1: it's called milestone-proposed, but yes, it's what will become stable/havana | 19:08 |
| dperaza1 | so there is never an intermediate branch where folks do work | 19:08 |
| dperaza1 | ok | 19:09 |
| ttx | (not calling it stable because, well, it oisn't yet) | 19:09 |
| dperaza1 | right | 19:09 |
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| dperaza1 | but people will be able to submit bug fixes to milestone-proposes? | 19:09 |
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| dolphm | dperaza1: generally master first, and then they're backported to milestone-proposed | 19:10 |
| ttx | dperaza1: ocne milestone-proposed is cut, bugfixes land in master first and are backported | 19:10 |
| dolphm | dperaza1: just like would backport to stable/havana, if that existed | 19:10 |
| dperaza1 | I'm trying to figure out when master wil diverge | 19:10 |
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| ttx | which is the main reason why we don't cut it before... the road to RC1 has so many bugxies backporting all of them would just be painful | 19:10 |
| dolphm | dperaza1: when https://launchpad.net/keystone/+milestone/havana-rc1 is all Fix Implemented | 19:10 |
| ttx | master will diverge after RC1 | 19:11 |
| ttx | dperaza1: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ReleaseCycle might help | 19:11 |
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| dolphm | ttx: i stumbled into this earlier today which should maybe go away https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Process | 19:12 |
| ttx | dolphm: indeed, moving to deprecated | 19:12 |
| dolphm | morganfainberg: where was the merge conflict on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/43609/ ? | 19:14 |
| dperaza1 | ttx: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ReleaseCycle did helped, thanks | 19:14 |
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| ttx | dperaza1: i should probaly add to https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/BranchModel to show what happens around release time | 19:15 |
| morganfainberg | dolphm, someone added a super call to test_backend_ldap.LdapIdentitySqlAssignment i think. so it didn't need to delete the cach region backend explciitly | 19:15 |
| dperaza1 | so master will start getting new features when milestone-proposed is cut | 19:15 |
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| dolphm | dperaza1: yes | 19:15 |
| morganfainberg | dolphm, jenkins is almost done checking the new changeset | 19:15 |
| ttx | dperaza1: exactly, that's when icehouse opens | 19:15 |
| dolphm | morganfainberg: i'm keeping an eye on it | 19:15 |
| dolphm | morganfainberg: actually it's done | 19:15 |
| ttx | dperaza1: that should be in ~2/3 weeks | 19:15 |
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| dperaza1 | ok, makes sense | 19:16 |
| ttx | depednign how many release-critical bugs there is and how fast we go through them | 19:16 |
| dperaza1 | that gives me some time too | 19:16 |
| morganfainberg | cool. it was just tests. | 19:16 |
| morganfainberg | Falling back to patching base and 3-way merge... | 19:16 |
| morganfainberg | Auto-merging keystone/tests/test_backend_ldap.py | 19:16 |
| morganfainberg | CONFLICT (content): Merge conflict in keystone/tests/test_backend_ldap.py | 19:16 |
| dperaza1 | this is good to know to keep continous integration at a min impact | 19:16 |
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| roaet | What is the difference (and preferred use-of) Fixes-bug and Closes-bug? | 19:22 |
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| ttx | dolphm: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/keystone/+spec/notifications is marked implemented but https://review.openstack.org/#/c/44446/ is still going on | 19:25 |
| ttx | dolphm: could be handled as a bug, I guess | 19:25 |
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| stevemar | ttx: that patch is just the docs, the impl is checked in | 19:26 |
| ttx | stevemar: some would say the feature is incomplete without docs :) | 19:26 |
| dolphm | stevemar: and just a doc revision at that | 19:26 |
| ttx | stevemar: but in this precise case it could be considered a doc bug being fixed | 19:26 |
| stevemar | ++ right, just a doc revision | 19:26 |
| clarkb | roaet: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/GitCommitMessages#Including_external_references | 19:27 |
| stevemar | dolphm: is http://summit.openstack.org/ for design sessions? | 19:27 |
| dolphm | stevemar: yes | 19:28 |
| stevemar | dolphm: cool, morganfainberg: you were looking for this too iirc ^ | 19:28 |
| dolphm | stevemar: it just opened today | 19:28 |
| morganfainberg | stevemar, yep, found it earlier today. | 19:28 |
| stevemar | i am so behind on the times | 19:29 |
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| dolphm | dstanek_: you might be interested in reading http://ci.openstack.org/zuul/gating.html | 19:30 |
| morganfainberg | dolphm, https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/1099966 i tried to duplicate this over the weekend, i couldn't get an integrity error any way i tried, if you had any insight it would be appreciated, otherwise i'm going to mark it incomplete and ask for more info. | 19:30 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1099966 in keystone "Race condition when rapidly deleting and creating tokens" [Medium,Triaged] | 19:30 |
| morganfainberg | to be fair, i was testing against master not folsom or grizzly. | 19:31 |
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| dolphm | morganfainberg: that except block is still in there? | 19:32 |
| dolphm | morganfainberg: i mean, it is still in there... i just came across it recently and thought it was odd | 19:32 |
| morganfainberg | dolphm, hrm. | 19:32 |
| dolphm | morganfainberg: search for that comment | 19:32 |
| morganfainberg | oh that one. | 19:33 |
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| morganfainberg | dolphm, you mean Auth controller _authenticate_token? | 19:35 |
| morganfainberg | https://github.com/openstack/keystone/blob/master/keystone/token/controllers.py#L143 | 19:35 |
| dolphm | morganfainberg: http://pasteraw.com/lhervgzh6rnj0h04rv7u4e76fcenw5t | 19:35 |
| morganfainberg | ah moved to the provider | 19:36 |
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| morganfainberg | dolphm, oh, that is an odd one. | 19:37 |
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| dolphm | stevemar: revised https://review.openstack.org/#/c/44446/ -- see the first paragraph | 19:38 |
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| insanidade | anteaya: hey. just managed to instantiate a neutron's client and invoke commands :) | 19:38 |
| anteaya | insanidade: yay | 19:38 |
| anteaya | \o/ | 19:38 |
| anteaya | can't wait to read how you did it | 19:38 |
| anteaya | success! | 19:38 |
| stevemar | dolphm: cool | 19:39 |
| stevemar | dolphm: looks good now, do you think there are any resources with 2 words? | 19:40 |
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| stevemar | dolphm: nvm, just read your comment | 19:40 |
| insanidade | anteaya: I just missed some auth args in the constructor. Once I added the required ones - based on debugging (which I could only perform thanks to your blog post), I god the right object instance and further keystone authentications were also successful. | 19:40 |
| anteaya | yahoo! | 19:40 |
| anteaya | once you blog it up, post me the url and I will append to my post | 19:41 |
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| morganfainberg | dolphm, short of bad entropy, i don't see how uuid.uuid4().hex should be generating the same token_id. unless it isn't somehow eventlet safe and eventlet wsgi is doing something odd. | 19:42 |
| insanidade | anteaya: I'll probably write something and let you append to your post. I don't have a blog where I post such things. | 19:42 |
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| anteaya | time to start | 19:42 |
| insanidade | anteaya: probably :) | 19:42 |
| anteaya | go go go | 19:42 |
| anteaya | do it, it is way better than giving your notes to me | 19:42 |
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| insanidade | What's the difference between the demo and admin projects in a default openstack installation? Do they mean some hierarchical difference ? | 19:49 |
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| anteaya | they aren't projects as much as permissions insanidade | 19:50 |
| dolphm | anteaya: well, they are projects | 19:50 |
| anteaya | okay, new info for me | 19:50 |
| * anteaya listens | 19:50 | |
| dolphm | insanidade: 'admin' is a bit special in that it happens to be an arbitrary project upon which the admin user is granted the admin role | 19:50 |
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| dolphm | insanidade: but the 'demo' project is intended to represent the bulk of a cloud's projects... customer-owned resources, etc | 19:51 |
| morganfainberg | dolphm, that code looks like it can be ripped out. before providers, the "identical" tokens was becasuse the ID was PKI hash, not a uuid. so you could (in theory) get rapid token issuance. | 19:51 |
| morganfainberg | dolphm, i'll propose a review to remove that superfluous try/except. to that bug. (or i can jsut mark as invalid) | 19:51 |
| insanidade | hmm. makes sense. so if a user is part of the demo project, would that user be granted more permissions than a user in the demo project ? | 19:52 |
| dolphm | insanidade: (is one of those not supposed to say 'demo'?) | 19:52 |
| morganfainberg | s/get rapid token issuance/get duplicate with rapid token issuance | 19:52 |
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| dolphm | insanidade: but either way, the answer is no-- because it depends on what role is assigned... not the project they're assigned on | 19:52 |
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| dolphm | morganfainberg: attach it to the bug | 19:53 |
| morganfainberg | dolphm will do. | 19:53 |
| dolphm | morganfainberg: sounds like reasonable clean up following the bug report | 19:53 |
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| insanidade | dolphm: ops. totally messed things up :P. I meant "admin" for the first "demo" occurrence. but I got the point on your following sentence. | 19:54 |
| dolphm | insanidade: e.g. assigning the 'manager' role to a user on a project probably gives more permissions than assigning the 'guest' role | 19:54 |
| dolphm | insanidade: but the role names are just arbitrary labels, and their meaning is determined by the deployer via policy.json | 19:55 |
| * insanidade paying attention | 19:55 | |
| * dolphm that's all i wanted to say ;) | 19:56 | |
| dolphm | does all that make sense? | 19:56 |
| insanidade | dolphm: absolutely. | 19:57 |
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| insanidade | reminds me of other tools I've worked with. Permissions based on roles. | 19:57 |
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| insanidade | dolphm: so multiple roles (and hence multiple permissions) are possible inside the same project, right ? | 19:58 |
| dolphm | insanidade: definitely | 19:58 |
| insanidade | got it | 19:58 |
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| insanidade | thanks :) | 20:00 |
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| morganfainberg | dolphm, oh, i was wrong. we could still race here. i'm going to just add a token salt in to ensure we don't ever have this issue actually occuring. | 20:11 |
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| dolphm | morganfainberg: now i'm lost | 20:24 |
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| dolphm | morganfainberg: salt fixes a race condition | 20:25 |
| dolphm | ? | 20:25 |
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| morganfainberg | dolphm, the race condition is that you'd have the same token data when you generate the ID: https://github.com/openstack/keystone/blob/master/keystone/token/providers/pki.py#L37 | 20:25 |
| morganfainberg | down to the expiry/issue_at time (subsecond? in v3) | 20:26 |
| morganfainberg | dolphm, if you add some salt or any random data into to the token_data that is unique, you can't get the same token_id. | 20:26 |
| morganfainberg | sorry, salt is a bad term | 20:26 |
| morganfainberg | uhm, random data would be a better term. | 20:27 |
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| morganfainberg | dolphm, it's a fairly narrow race condition as is. | 20:32 |
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| morganfainberg | and can only result in access denied because a token was revoked while it was still in use since it was issued twice. | 20:33 |
| dolphm | morganfainberg: that's what the token ID provides in UUID tokens, and microsecond precision issued_at was supposed to limit the impact of that | 20:33 |
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| morganfainberg | dolphm, ah we could move to microsecond precision on issued_at for v2 tokens as well then? | 20:34 |
| morganfainberg | oh we are | 20:34 |
| morganfainberg | ugh, missed that. | 20:35 |
| morganfainberg | in that case my original statement stands, we are free of the race condition (sorry for the confusion) | 20:35 |
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| morganfainberg | doubful we will issue two tokens in the same microsecond | 20:36 |
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| morganfainberg | dolphm, but we should probably leave the try/except in. | 20:38 |
| dolphm | stevemar: there's just a few small changes to get this in line with the state of the proposed spec, correct? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/44504/ | 20:38 |
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| dolphm | morganfainberg: is that the only scenario where the except would be hit? duplicate issues in the same microsecond? | 20:38 |
| morganfainberg | dolphm, looks like. | 20:38 |
| morganfainberg | dolphm, well. | 20:39 |
| morganfainberg | dolphm, sec | 20:39 |
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| morganfainberg | dolphm, correct. same microsecond, issued_at is set even if a new token is issued with the same expiry. | 20:41 |
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| SlickNik | dtroyer: addressed your comments on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/38169/. Please review when you get a chance. Thanks! | 21:04 |
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| dtroyer | SlickNik: will do, thanks. likely tomorrow morning... | 21:05 |
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| SlickNik | dtroyer: Sounds good. Thanks much! | 21:06 |
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| dperaza1 | anyone knows when oslo will be synched with other projects? | 21:31 |
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| jamielennox | dperaza1, it's handled by the projects, they can submit a review to sync whenever they like | 21:40 |
| dperaza1 | so | 21:41 |
| dperaza1 | I should be asking nova for example? | 21:41 |
| jamielennox | so if there is something you need from oslo you can sync it yourself and put the review up | 21:41 |
| jamielennox | there generally isn't a schedule for these things, just as needed | 21:41 |
| dperaza1 | I suspect it will be done close to release? | 21:42 |
| dperaza1 | of this is not done automatically? | 21:42 |
| jamielennox | maybe, maybe not. If there is nothing they need from a newer oslo then i would suggest they would stay with what is known to be stable | 21:43 |
| dperaza1 | it needs to go through nova,cinder,neutron...etc review | 21:43 |
| jamielennox | no it's not automatic | 21:43 |
| dperaza1 | it sounds like a lot of reviews for the same patches? | 21:44 |
| bknudson | we don't do full review of oslo syncs. just look to see if it was done correctly | 21:44 |
| jamielennox | dperaza1, yes and there is a lot of discussion about it on the mailing list for example | 21:44 |
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| jamielennox | but generally if it's an oslo sync so long as it doesn't break anything it's just accepted | 21:44 |
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| jamielennox | keystone people, auth_token takes a paremeter http_request_max_retries. if this is set to eg 3, should this be 4 requests total? | 21:45 |
| bknudson | jamielennox: what do the tests do? | 21:46 |
| jamielennox | currently the tests say that set to 0 results in 1 request and set to 10 results in 10 tests | 21:46 |
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| dperaza1 | so lets say I want to do a nova synch with oslo-incubator | 21:47 |
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| jamielennox | dperaza1, there is an update.sh in the root folder of oslo-incubator it takes a path to another project | 21:47 |
| dperaza1 | I would need to fallow this https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Oslo Synch section | 21:47 |
| dperaza1 | right | 21:47 |
| jamielennox | so ./update.sh ../nova for example | 21:47 |
| dperaza1 | right | 21:47 |
| dperaza1 | but that will bring all the changes in not just the one I'm interested | 21:48 |
| bknudson | dperaza1: you can give it a module name. | 21:48 |
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| dperaza1 | Any nova folks here | 21:48 |
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| jamielennox | dperaza1, it takes a --module as well, you can check #openstack-nova for nova specific | 21:49 |
| dperaza1 | Let me check how they usually do this | 21:49 |
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| jamielennox | bknudson, not sure if you saw the above, the problem is that the tests are inconsistent because the test of retries is after the request is made | 21:50 |
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| jamielennox | i was making it a pre-check so i kind of need to define it one way or the other | 21:50 |
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| bknudson | jamielennox: should we be changing the behavior? | 21:51 |
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| jamielennox | i'm a little nervous about if you set it to 0 then no request is attempted at all, but that would result in 11 requests for the 10 retries | 21:52 |
| bknudson | jamielennox: is that what 0 does now? | 21:52 |
| jamielennox | 0 results in 1 attempt | 21:52 |
| jamielennox | mind you i think 1 results in 1 attempt as well | 21:52 |
| bknudson | so maybe it's just a matter of a special case for 0 | 21:52 |
| bknudson | since not making any request wouldn't make sense. | 21:53 |
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| jamielennox | ah ok, that's not quite the issue, the test is counting the number of sleep calls that the retries cause | 21:55 |
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| jamielennox | mine will suffer from the issue that the last failed request will still cause a sleep even though there will be no follow up | 21:55 |
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| jamielennox | so same amount of requests but +1 sleeps, that must be why it was written in such a strange way initially | 21:56 |
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