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| jgriffith | cburgess: sighh... I think we might be sunk | 00:14 |
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| jgriffith | cburgess: it appears that the libvirt driver in Nova may not support the newer libvirt version? | 00:14 |
| jgriffith | cburgess: unless my build just is horribly wrong | 00:14 |
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| jgriffith | http://paste.openstack.org/show/39562/ | 00:15 |
| jgriffith | cburgess: ^^ | 00:15 |
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| cburgess | jgriffith: Just back now. Taking a look. | 00:25 |
| cburgess | jgriffith: Hmm I'm running my devstack right now with 1.0.6 and we run a grizzly+ backport in production on 1.0.6 so I'm pretty sure its supported. | 00:26 |
| cburgess | jgriffith: Looks like the issue might be with accessing the libvirt socket. | 00:26 |
| cburgess | libvirtError: Failed to connect socket to '/var/run/libvirt/libvirt-sock': Permission denied | 00:26 |
| jgriffith | cburgess: ahhh | 00:26 |
| jgriffith | cburgess: yup | 00:26 |
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| jgriffith | cburgess: looks like my "make install" is not correct, or something else was missed | 00:26 |
| cburgess | jgriffith: What OS distro are you in? | 00:27 |
| jgriffith | ubu 12.04 | 00:27 |
| jgriffith | I downloaded libvirt 1.0 source and built/installed | 00:27 |
| jgriffith | but I suspect there's a nuance somewhere that I missed, or an option | 00:27 |
| jgriffith | :( | 00:27 |
| cburgess | jgriffith: Perfect. I have dpkg for you. Let me get them up publicly. | 00:27 |
| jgriffith | ha! you rock!! | 00:28 |
| cburgess | jgriffith: 64-bit or 32? | 00:29 |
| jgriffith | 64 | 00:29 |
| cburgess | k… getting them into a public place now. | 00:30 |
| cburgess | I really need to just make a public PPA we can share out. | 00:30 |
| jgriffith | cburgess: that would rock! | 00:31 |
| jgriffith | cburgess: I'm assuming there is a demand | 00:31 |
| jgriffith | cburgess: the version in 12.04 is a bit old | 00:31 |
| cburgess | jgriffith: You aren't the first PTL that we have supplied with packages. ;) | 00:31 |
| jgriffith | :) | 00:31 |
| cburgess | I can set something up on launchpad that is public. | 00:32 |
| cburgess | But… directl download will be quicker for now since that takes a while to publish etc. | 00:32 |
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| reachlin | is this a good place for question on devstack installation? | 02:49 |
| lifeless | sure | 02:51 |
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| reachlin | i installed devstack, seems fine. but launch instance failed with this error: | 03:05 |
| reachlin | | fault | {u'message': u'ConsoleTypeInvalid', u'code': 400, u'details': u'Invalid console type spice-html5', u'created': u'2013-07-03T08:57:03Z'} | | 03:06 |
| reachlin | | OS-EXT-STS:power_state | | 03:06 |
| reachlin | this is the output of "nova show <instance>" | 03:06 |
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| reachlin | lifeless? | 03:13 |
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| lifeless | sorry, have to run - am in an airport boarding a plan. GL. | 03:17 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/nova: Add tests for `db.console_pool_*()` functions. https://review.openstack.org/30895 | 10:40 |
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| dhellmann-away | markmc: ping? | 11:03 |
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| markmc | dhellmann, hey | 11:03 |
| dhellmann | hey, have a sec to discuss release permissions? | 11:04 |
| markmc | sure | 11:04 |
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| dhellmann | ok. I have no strong opinions, but jeblair suggested keeping the list of releasers small. If you think oslo-core is small enough, I can change the permissions on oslo.sphinx to allow anyone in core to do a release, instead of making new groups. | 11:04 |
| dhellmann | tbh, my first inclination was to just use oslo-core | 11:05 |
| markmc | that's what we have for others, so let's just do that | 11:05 |
| dhellmann | ok, done | 11:05 |
| markmc | if we want to restrict it to smaller | 11:05 |
| markmc | we should do it for all of them | 11:05 |
| dhellmann | makes sense | 11:06 |
| markmc | I'd love if tags actually had to be approved through gerrit too | 11:06 |
| markmc | would be cool | 11:06 |
| dhellmann | I didn't realize pbr and hacking were under oslo, so I didn't look there for examples | 11:06 |
| dhellmann | yeah, I think that's on a todo list somewhere :-) | 11:06 |
| markmc | you haven't read our wiki page?!?! | 11:06 |
| dhellmann | it came up at the bootcamp | 11:06 |
| * markmc is shocked! | 11:06 | |
| * dhellmann can't find things in the wiki on a good day | 11:06 | |
| markmc | see, no-one ever reads stuff | 11:06 |
| dhellmann | I need to go mark that page as watched | 11:07 |
| markmc | dhellmann, this is after I went to the bother of writing https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Oslo#Why_aren.27t_alphas_releases_of_oslo.config_published_to_PyPI.3F today :) | 11:07 |
| markmc | dhellmann, the second question is specially for you and flavio, but I want to dig up more references to the debates we had about it | 11:07 |
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| dhellmann | I'll take a look at that | 11:08 |
| dhellmann | my question was really about whether we were making more work for ourselves with all the pip/pbr issues, not so much whether we should do prereleases | 11:09 |
| markmc | yeah, that should all be covered there | 11:10 |
| markmc | I went back over our discussion the other day and included the points from that | 11:10 |
| dhellmann | I don't use prereleases on any of my libraries, but I tend to stick to semantic versioning and leave it up to the consuming project to deal with the dependencies. We don't have that luxury here. | 11:10 |
| dhellmann | ok, good | 11:10 |
| dhellmann | oh, nice, you have a section on the global thing | 11:10 |
| markmc | right, that's the bit for you and flavio | 11:10 |
| markmc | don't think I didn't notice ye whining on twitter :-)) | 11:11 |
| dhellmann | I had some ideas for how we might be able to eliminate that, I need to write up a blueprint to see what you think | 11:11 |
| dhellmann | haha | 11:11 |
| markmc | eliminate it it from oslo.config | 11:11 |
| dhellmann | yeah, migrate away from it | 11:11 |
| markmc | or eliminate it from all projects, including nova | 11:11 |
| dhellmann | well, it would be up to a project if they wanted to keep a global, but oslo.config wouldn't have to | 11:11 |
| markmc | it already is up to each project | 11:12 |
| markmc | project's don't have to use cfg.CONF | 11:12 |
| markmc | the fixing we'd need to do would be more in oslo-incubator | 11:12 |
| markmc | *but* | 11:12 |
| markmc | I really hate the idea of project's not sharing idioms | 11:12 |
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| dhellmann | we had a lot of trouble in ceilometer's nova notifier plugin because we had 2 sets of incubator code registering the same options | 11:13 |
| markmc | there's no good reason for projects to have differing approaches to this | 11:13 |
| dhellmann | I did some nasty things with import trickery to get around it | 11:13 |
| dhellmann | no, I agree | 11:13 |
| markmc | yeah, the ceilometer thing was an interesting case | 11:13 |
| markmc | ok, ok, ok | 11:13 |
| markmc | I'm not getting into this again | 11:13 |
| dhellmann | so maybe what I really mean is I think we can get rid of the import-time side effects of registering options | 11:13 |
| dhellmann | ok, sorry :-) | 11:14 |
| markmc | I want to write down all the rationale in that FAQ | 11:14 |
| markmc | and then be done with the debate forever | 11:14 |
| markmc | you and flavio can have at it | 11:14 |
| dhellmann | haha | 11:14 |
| dhellmann | ok | 11:14 |
| markmc | all I cared about was getting projects sharing config code and idioms | 11:14 |
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| markmc | I didn't really like the global object thing | 11:14 |
| dhellmann | yeah, that's a big win | 11:14 |
| markmc | but hit resistance, so gave up and went with it | 11:14 |
| dhellmann | yep, the global is really not as big of an issue as the import-time side effects | 11:15 |
| markmc | oh yes | 11:15 |
| markmc | I have something for that | 11:15 |
| markmc | cfgfilter | 11:15 |
| markmc | I'm going to try using that in oslo.messaging | 11:15 |
| dhellmann | a single global ceilometer could manipulate would have been just fine | 11:15 |
| dhellmann | I'm behind in reviews, is that in oslo.config already? | 11:15 |
| markmc | i.e. you'll be able to pass a conf object into oslo.messaging | 11:16 |
| markmc | and any options oslo.messaging register won't be visible via your conf object | 11:16 |
| markmc | they'll be internal to the library | 11:16 |
| markmc | it's in oslo-incubator | 11:16 |
| dhellmann | ah, interesting | 11:16 |
| markmc | openstack/common/cfgfilter.py | 11:16 |
| markmc | haven't used it anywhere yet though | 11:16 |
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| markmc | bah, that's not quite what it does | 11:17 |
| markmc | hmm, got to think about this some more | 11:18 |
| markmc | but have to head now | 11:18 |
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| dhellmann | ok, ttyl | 11:18 |
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| JordanP | sdague, after giving some more thoughts to UUID vs ID thing in security groups, I am convinced the correct fix is at Tempest's side. You can't/dont want to hide the fact that the backing network implementation is Quantum. Just by doing a nova secgroup-list you clearly whether it provider is using Quantum or Nova net. And we can't translate BadRequest Exception to NotFound exception because you need to warn the user that he is calling the API the wron | 12:17 |
| JordanP | g way | 12:17 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/quantum: Allow non-root ip in subnet CIDR https://review.openstack.org/32333 | 12:29 |
| sdague | JordanP: I disagree when it's a nova api, however, it's vacation now, so I won't really look at it until next week. I do suggest this converts to an ML thread, because there is a bigger discussion around nova api stability here, that we want all the nova core folks participating in. | 12:30 |
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| JordanP | sdague, ok | 12:34 |
| jang | hi all. | 12:35 |
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| enikanorov_ | salv-orlando: amotoki: Hi guys | 12:42 |
| enikanorov_ | may I borrow you time again? | 12:42 |
| amotoki | enikanorov_: hi | 12:42 |
| enikanorov_ | it's about service types again | 12:43 |
| enikanorov_ | I had to update the patch recently to resolve Nachi's comments | 12:44 |
| amotoki | today i could have time to follow your discussion and I am just catching up. | 12:44 |
| enikanorov_ | also we've discussed the need of DB for the conf | 12:44 |
| enikanorov_ | I'm sure I haven't convinced him :) | 12:44 |
| enikanorov_ | anyway, I've updated the doc that he has sent | 12:45 |
| enikanorov_ | this one: https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1v0nLTEsFOwWeYpYjpw4qe3QHB5lLZEE_b0TmmR5b7ic/edit#slide=id.gefc32ecf_00 | 12:45 |
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| amotoki | what is blue and red strings? | 12:45 |
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| enikanorov_ | I've added those lines and tried to emphasize by coloring them :) | 12:46 |
| enikanorov_ | I'm not sure it has indication of which line is whos | 12:47 |
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| enikanorov_ | Also, salv-orlando had same suggestion at first, to store conf in memory, and i've actually implemented this. But while moving forward it was more complex to build this on top of that | 12:49 |
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| enikanorov_ | *to build things | 12:49 |
| amotoki | enikanorov_: on top of "in memory data"? | 12:49 |
| enikanorov_ | yep | 12:50 |
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| amotoki | what is the problem? | 12:50 |
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| amotoki | The problem seems one described in Cons #4 in conf-based in nachi's docs. | 12:52 |
| enikanorov_ | yes, I've added this point | 12:52 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/nova: Fix resize ordering for COW VHD https://review.openstack.org/34528 | 12:53 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/quantum: Fix unit test for ryu-agent https://review.openstack.org/35603 | 12:53 |
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| enikanorov_ | of course it's not something impossible to implement, but I don't feel it's neccessary to introduce complexity and much change in other places... | 12:55 |
| amotoki | enikanorov_: id for providers was introduced based on the discussion with salv-orlando? | 12:56 |
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| enikanorov_ | yes, we have discussed this at earlier stage | 12:57 |
| enikanorov_ | I believe on patchset #6 | 12:57 |
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| amotoki | It is good to keep API consistency. | 13:01 |
| amotoki | I think it is the first case where quantum API exposes what values are available. | 13:01 |
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| amotoki | e.g., we want to get what provider net types are available. | 13:02 |
| amotoki | In this case I am not sure 'id' is required or not. | 13:02 |
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| enikanorov_ | if we only provide 'list providers' | 13:02 |
| enikanorov_ | that it is not required for this operation | 13:03 |
| enikanorov_ | get_provider becomes paint then. both from CLI and API perspective | 13:03 |
| enikanorov_ | also, I'd add id just for simpler relations only. why not? | 13:03 |
| enikanorov_ | i think that's quite common practice of data normalization | 13:04 |
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| amotoki | agree from the point of relationship and it looks reasonable for internal use. | 13:07 |
| amotoki | from the point of API view, is 'id' used to specify a provider? | 13:07 |
| salv-orlando | enikanorov_: I am implementing a blueprint on top of it, to see how it works for me. So far it's pretty much ok. It needs some tweaks, but nothing that has to be done in your blueprint. Not sure what to do with nati-ueno comments. He has suggested to bring them upstream for wider feedback. | 13:09 |
| enikanorov_ | :\ | 13:10 |
| enikanorov_ | i was really hoping to commit this | 13:10 |
| enikanorov_ | in 2013 | 13:10 |
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| enikanorov_ | btw what bp are you implementing? | 13:11 |
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| enikanorov_ | amotoki: sorry, have missed your question. Id is used in url if you accessing particular resource | 13:13 |
| enikanorov_ | that's a common way. I guess something additional needs to be done to access resource by group of parameters | 13:14 |
| amotoki | enikanorov_: i see. generally your implementation looks good. | 13:14 |
| amotoki | enikanorov_: I would like to consider a little more about what you all discussed on email. let me have some time to think. | 13:16 |
| enikanorov_ | ok sure | 13:16 |
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| salv-orlando | enikanorov_: bp/nicira-distributed-router | 13:48 |
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| enikanorov_ | i'll take a look | 13:48 |
| salv-orlando | I will use a different service provider for centralised and distributed routers | 13:48 |
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| enikanorov_ | i see. will it be different service type in addition to loadbalancer, fw, vpn? | 13:51 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/cinder: Quotas by Volume Type https://review.openstack.org/25059 | 17:13 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/cinder: Make os-services API extension consistent https://review.openstack.org/34670 | 17:56 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/cinder: xenapi: implement xenserver image to volume https://review.openstack.org/34336 | 18:49 |
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| numero8 | I'm bothered with a Jenkins report reporting an issue on python-keystone-client following a patch I pushe for review (see https://review.openstack.org/#/c/33532/). | 19:27 |
| numero8 | Any hint on the reason for the errors reported by Jenkins? | 19:27 |
| numero8 | It seems to deal with the token cache mecanism of the python-keystone-client. | 19:28 |
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