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| jamielennox | ayoung: any thoughts on how to integrate bind checking into keystone server? it doesn't use keystone client so auth checking is a bit haphazard and we won't have the same config settings as clients | 01:23 |
| ayoung | jamielennox, can't context shift just yet, give me a few minutes | 01:23 |
| jamielennox | ayoung: not overly important just what i'm wondering about | 01:23 |
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| ayoung | jamielennox, OK, I'm here. I assume by "bind" you mean checking that the cert is bound to the token? | 01:32 |
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| jamielennox | right so in auth_token middleware this is fairly simply because you have one path through which token authentication passes and I can just put check bind is correct in there | 01:33 |
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| jamielennox | in keystone itself the middleware simply moves the token into context and does an is_admin check | 01:33 |
| ayoung | jamielennox, wouldn't it be nice to put it into the policy? | 01:33 |
| ayoung | jamielennox, that is in common/controller.py I think | 01:34 |
| jamielennox | then the main ways i can see of checking id are self.assert_admin(), @controller.protected and @controller.filterprotected though i'm not sure what the difference between them is | 01:34 |
| jamielennox | between filter and straight protected i mean | 01:34 |
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| ayoung | assert_admin needs to go away, as that should be a policy check | 01:35 |
| jamielennox | so yea, we have policy_api but is that really the right place for it? | 01:35 |
| ayoung | filterprotected probably is the right place | 01:35 |
| ayoung | We can refactor over time | 01:36 |
| jamielennox | as opposed to protected? | 01:36 |
| ayoung | erm, no, | 01:36 |
| ayoung | Both | 01:36 |
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| jamielennox | i'm just trying to get the difference now | 01:37 |
| ayoung | both call _build_policy_check_credentials | 01:37 |
| jamielennox | as does assert_admin | 01:38 |
| jamielennox | actually no it doesn't but it does call policy_api.enforce so it probably should be calling _build... | 01:38 |
| jamielennox | so is it reasonable to put this in common/ somewhere and share the code between client & server> | 01:39 |
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| jamielennox | ayoung: what would be nice is to have the actual keystoneclient middleware protecting keystone | 01:42 |
| ayoung | jamielennox, yeah, although we probably need to keep duplicating things for a while. I realized a shortcoming of our current testing approach, where we have old clients in the same process space as the current server. See if you can figure it out. | 01:43 |
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| jamielennox | ayoung: i'm pretty sure i put a bug up about that a couple of weeks ago asking for what is the expected outcome, dolph triaged but didn't give any advice | 01:44 |
| ayoung | So, until we sort that, we can't move new code to client from server | 01:45 |
| ayoung | I think the answer is tempest | 01:46 |
| jamielennox | https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/1178532 so just not quite the right phrasing | 01:46 |
| jamielennox | ayoung: but yea, if i could figure out what the desired outcome is supposed to be i could at least attempt it but it's a weird problem | 01:47 |
| jamielennox | so my thought about having it in common is similar to your cms.py, i'll have to duplicate it, but they should be more or less in sync | 01:47 |
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| jamielennox | hmm, i might just have to modify it for keystone | 01:48 |
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| mordred | ayoung: you need to make a patch to openstack/requirements | 01:55 |
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| mordred | ayoung: which you also need to do these days before adding it to requirements.txt | 01:55 |
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| ayoung | jamielennox, see mordred 's comments for HTMLPretty | 02:13 |
| jamielennox | mordred: given that this is a global req list how difficult is it to get a new package added? is there a required discussion or anything? | 02:14 |
| jamielennox | the package i want is: https://github.com/gabrielfalcao/HTTPretty which lets you stub http responses based on url rather than the current method of mocking requests or overriding HTTPConnections with custom ones | 02:15 |
| jamielennox | so there are alternative ways but this seems like a better idea, but it now needs to be approved prior to being able to show any code using it | 02:16 |
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| ayoung | jamielennox, just make the patch, and explain the rationale. It is only going to get populated into the local pip cache, so it shouldn't be too contraversial | 02:28 |
| jamielennox | yea, doing it now it can always be discussed in the review | 02:28 |
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| mordred | jamielennox: discussion mainly winds up around suitability in terms of license and upstream supportedness of the library | 02:31 |
| mordred | jamielennox: license seems fine, so it shouldn't be too much of a problem | 02:33 |
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| jamielennox | mordred: thanks, submitted https://review.openstack.org/#/c/34660/ | 02:41 |
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| gongysh | rkukura: ping | 08:22 |
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| gongysh | salv-orlando: ping | 08:27 |
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| salv-orlando | gongysh: how can I help you? | 08:31 |
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| gongysh | salv-orlando: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/34695/ | 08:40 |
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| gongysh | salv-orlando: I don't know how to test it | 08:40 |
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| gongysh | salv-orlando: the distributed lock is needed for someone who has many quantum-servers running on many servers. | 08:43 |
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| salv-orlando | gongysh: I know I have commented the same thing on your patch for lockutils.synchronized | 08:44 |
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| salv-orlando | I think acquiring a lock on the db is a decent approach; it's what is usually done. | 08:44 |
| gongysh | yes, I have not see other easy way to implement it. | 08:45 |
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| salv-orlando | this is the easiest. Then if you want to implement distributed coordination among quantum instances, I'd be happy to support you. But don't expect me to do coding! | 08:45 |
| salv-orlando | for testing it, I would simply consider a validation of the underlying mechanism. Artificially create a lock. | 08:46 |
| gongysh | you just need to help review. | 08:46 |
| salv-orlando | This can be done invoking just lok on some mac in the unit test | 08:46 |
| gongysh | and come up with idea. | 08:47 |
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| salv-orlando | hmm. I am think that this testing approach I was thinking of probably won't work. | 08:47 |
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| gongysh | I tested it with eventlet.sleep() after it is locked, and then try to do another invocation. | 08:49 |
| gongysh | but the combination of eventlet.sleep() and sqlalchemy sucks. | 08:49 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/nova: Check the instance ID before creating it https://review.openstack.org/29736 | 08:50 |
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| salv-orlando | basically the logic is that acquiring a lock would block you until the lock is released | 08:51 |
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| salv-orlando | so you would be blocked on the query on DistributedLock? | 08:51 |
| kashyap | lifeless, Hello, when you're here: d-i-b can be used in a beefy guest hypervisor (KVM w/ nested virt), right? | 08:51 |
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| gongysh | that is sure. | 08:52 |
| agorodnev | lifeless: hi. Could you please review my patch again? =) | 08:52 |
| salv-orlando | So perhaps even mock might not help us because I can't do something mock.assertBlockedHere .... | 08:53 |
| agorodnev | lifeless: here it is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/32120/7 | 08:53 |
| salv-orlando | perhaps it might be helpful for testing finding the code where locks are released? | 08:54 |
| enikanorov | gongysh: you also need to consider a case when one server is down for some reason while it holds a lock | 08:54 |
| salv-orlando | I can't find it in your patch. | 08:54 |
| salv-orlando | gongysh: not saying the code is not there. Just saying I'm not able to find it. | 08:54 |
| gongysh | locks are released when the transaction is ended. | 08:54 |
| gongysh | enikanorov: when the server down, the connection will close, and then the transaction will be ended auto. | 08:55 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/nova: Add tests for libvirt's reboot functionality https://review.openstack.org/33434 | 08:56 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/cinder: Added volume backup and restore to Ceph RBD driver https://review.openstack.org/34350 | 08:56 |
| enikanorov | gongysh: probably I'm not seeing full picture? I see you call lock() which adds lock entry to DB | 08:56 |
| salv-orlando | gongysh: so basically the lock is achieved by keeping a transaction running until the lock is released? | 08:57 |
| enikanorov | but honestly I don't see a code that checks if lock is taken, neither i see how lock is released | 08:57 |
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| salv-orlando | anyway, to answer your question about testing. | 09:00 |
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| gongysh | salv-orlando: lock is released until the transaction is ended (committed or rolled back) | 09:01 |
| enikanorov | I suspect some files are missing from the patch | 09:01 |
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| gongysh | salv-orlando: lock is released when the transaction is ended (committed or rolled back) | 09:01 |
| salv-orlando | gongysh: indeed the transaction itself is the lock in a way | 09:01 |
| salv-orlando | because of the fact that you leave the DistributedLock table locked when you query it from within the same transaction | 09:02 |
| salv-orlando | so transaction commit will remove that lock on the table and allow another transaction to proceed | 09:02 |
| salv-orlando | do I get it right? | 09:02 |
| salv-orlando | I think you can artificially acquire a lock, and then spawn a thread that acquires that lock. You should then be able to assert that the 'update_time' of the lock has not changed (i.e.: the transaction is blocked) and that the operation, for instance, create port did not complete | 09:03 |
| salv-orlando | then you remove or unlock or whatever that lock that you artificially acquired, and you should be able to verify the other thread got the lock | 09:04 |
| salv-orlando | problem might that sqllite often cheats me with multiple threads | 09:04 |
| salv-orlando | one thread does not read the updates from the other thread | 09:04 |
| salv-orlando | regarding the implementation, let's defer the comments to gerrit | 09:05 |
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| salv-orlando | I don't see any reason for which your approach won't work. But assuming a transaction might last as long as it's required to release the lock sounds a bit hackish to me. Anyway, this is just an opinion and therefore not a reason for -1 the patch. | 09:06 |
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| lifeless | kashyap: yuo can definitely run it there, or just on a regular workstation outside of vm | 09:07 |
| kashyap | lifeless, Yes, I don't have a spare workstation, but a beefy 48G mem KVM virt host, which can host a guest-hypervisor | 09:07 |
| kashyap | lifeless, Thanks for your response. | 09:07 |
| lifeless | kashyap: so you can run it on the virt host, or in a vm on it, either way is fine. | 09:08 |
| kashyap | lifeless, Yes, didn't wanted to run on host, because, it touches sudoers, etc. If I could run in a VM, I can give it to other folks :) | 09:08 |
| gongysh | salv-orlando: In DB, we can explicitly get a lock, but no way to explicitly release a lock. The way to do it is to end a transaction. | 09:08 |
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| kashyap | (Not that I can't clean the host up, anyhow.) | 09:08 |
| lifeless | kashyap: oh, just sudo first, then you don't need the sudoers.d; thats really only there so CI systems don't need to a) run it as root or b) prompt for sudo | 09:09 |
| lifeless | kashyap: I usually just answer the first sudo call it makes and after that its fine | 09:09 |
| kashyap | lifeless, Ok, thanks. Question - what's the minimal size of an image you could produce? (that can boot as a nova instance) | 09:10 |
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| lifeless | kashyap: in principle 40M or something; but we don't aim for minimal size at the moment - just minimal build time : so the smallest you'll get out would be a base ubuntu: 'disk-image-create -o test ubuntu -a i386' | 09:12 |
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| lifeless | kashyap: i386 because it has smaller binaries; ubuntu cloud images are fairly small already, and nothing additional. | 09:13 |
| salv-orlando | gongysh: I am confident you know this is the best possible approach. I will look better at the code. We have been hitter several times by long running transactions, this is the reason for my perplexity. | 09:13 |
| kashyap | lifeless, I see. | 09:13 |
| kashyap | lifeless, Do you know top off your head, would the above cli work for Fedora? | 09:13 |
| kashyap | lifeless, If not just disregard me, I'm trying it myself here. Thanks again. | 09:14 |
| lifeless | kashyap: it should, there's a bunch of Red Hat folk collaborating on TripleO, and they run diskimage-builder as part of that. | 09:14 |
| lifeless | kashyap: (And I believe they use Fedora themselves, not RHEL) | 09:14 |
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| kashyap | lifeless, Oke-doke. Will check. | 09:15 |
| lifeless | derekh: lucasagomes: ^ {offhand folk I know participating} | 09:15 |
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| lifeless | kashyap: BTW to do IMAP/POP3 I need to log into the HP VPN, outlook web access I can just use without having to deal with that just for email. | 09:17 |
| lifeless | kashyap: -> and thats why outlook. | 09:17 |
| kashyap | lifeless, No worries, sir. | 09:18 |
| lucasagomes | kashyap, yea I'm running tripleo on fedora | 09:18 |
| lucasagomes | didn't try on rhel yet tho | 09:19 |
| kashyap | lucasagomes, Ok, I'm just giving it a spin on an F19 KVM guest (hypervisor) | 09:19 |
| kashyap | Any gotchas I should be aware of? | 09:19 |
| lucasagomes | kashyap, you want to have a full fedora deployment ? (fedora host, bootstrap, baremetal nodes) ? | 09:20 |
| kashyap | lucasagomes, I'm not sure what a "full fedora deployment" in the context of diskimage-builder. I'm just trying to create a Fedora image with d-i-b. | 09:21 |
| lucasagomes | kashyap, right, it should be pretty stable then | 09:21 |
| kashyap | lucasagomes, Just a nova consumable Fedora image (preferably small <200 MB) | 09:21 |
| kashyap | lucasagomes, Thank you. Maybe if I have a questin or two, can I bother you on #tripleo? | 09:22 |
| lucasagomes | kashyap, sure np! | 09:23 |
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| enikanorov | salv-orlando: gongysh: what do guys think about moving agent scheduling extension to core api? | 10:26 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/nova: Port flavor_access extension to v3 API Part 1 https://review.openstack.org/34567 | 11:39 |
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| agorodnev | 29 июня, в эту субботу, в Саратов приезжает уникальный человек, сказочник и писатель. | 11:40 |
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| jd__ | but where is oslo 1.2.0a2? | 13:46 |
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| jd__ | (oslo.config I meant) | 13:46 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/keystone: Revert environment module usage in middleware. https://review.openstack.org/34484 | 13:49 |
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| Chocobo | Hi all, I have stuck out in the support channel and on the mailing list. Sorry to ask a question here: Does anyone know what the underlying cause of "WARNING [quantum.db.agentschedulers_db] Fail scheduling network" could be? It does not occur when launching the first VM, but each subsequent one it does. | 13:52 |
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| markmc | mordred, if you +1 https://review.openstack.org/34586 I'll approve | 13:52 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/oslo-incubator: Add netaddr.IPAddress support to to_primitive() https://review.openstack.org/34442 | 13:58 |
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| burt | I asked this briefly in nova last night, but had to leave. db.sqlalchemy.instance_get_all_by_filters explicitly filters out instances by project_id or user_id if it's not invoked in admin context. Would it be better to handle this in the policy layer? (There's a check_policy in compute.api.get_all, but it's essentially a no-op .. looks like a stub from the original policy commit.) | 14:19 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/nova: xenapi: Improve cross-device linking error message. https://review.openstack.org/33746 | 14:26 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/nova: xenapi: Make BitTorrent url more flexible https://review.openstack.org/33747 | 14:26 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/quantum: Imported Translations from Transifex https://review.openstack.org/34727 | 14:26 |
| _TheDodd_ | OpenStack rocks & so does the OpenStack community! | 14:26 |
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| jaypipes | dolphm: morning. got a moment? | 14:50 |
| jaypipes | dolphm: I'm trying to following the unified logging and eventlet thread on the ML | 14:51 |
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| jaypipes | dolphm: and was just curious about Keystone's move away from eventlet. | 14:51 |
| jaypipes | dolphm: when was this decision reached and what was the thinking there? Just curious. | 14:51 |
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| Chocobo | Apsu: Turns out I wasn't even having a problem :P | 14:52 |
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| Apsu | Chocobo: ... lolwat | 14:52 |
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| Chocobo | Chocobo: Those openvswitch warnings are normal, the fail to schedule networking warning just indicated that the network already existed and all the instances were going to to one node because... I guess that is how the scheduler works (default) | 14:54 |
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| bknudson | jaypipes: ayoung is probably the best one to answer... I think it's so that it's easier to run Keystone in Apache httpd. | 14:55 |
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| jaypipes | bknudson: gotcha. | 14:55 |
| bknudson | supposedly that will allow Keystone to handle multiple requests at a time. | 14:56 |
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| Chocobo | Any idea why the instance name increments by three? | 14:56 |
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| jaypipes | bknudson: lol. well I've been harping for a long time about having Keystone join the rest of the openstack projects and at least support the multiplexed worker model. Folks didn't seem to think it was worth it, and that people should just use a container in nginx or httpd to multiplex. | 14:59 |
| Chocobo | Apsu: Those openvswitch warnings are normal, the fail to schedule networking warning just indicated that the network already existed and all the instances were going to to one node because... I guess that is how the scheduler works (default) | 15:00 |
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| dolphm | jaypipes: i tried to rebase that patch a few weeks ago... got stuck somewhere | 15:01 |
| dolphm | jaypipes: also, o/ | 15:01 |
| jaypipes | dolphm: ya, no worries... | 15:01 |
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| dolphm | jaypipes: we're not necessarily moving away from eventlet full stop, trying to support both eventlet and httpd deployments | 15:01 |
| jaypipes | dolphm: I have an open task in our todo lists to get keystone multiplexed inside an apache container after one of our devs DDoS'd our keystone API service with only 30 concurrenty client connections. not good.... | 15:02 |
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| dolphm | jaypipes: +1 | 15:02 |
| Apsu | Chocobo: The OVS warnings are odd. You mentioned earlier you think they're because the taps are created inside namespaces, but OVS can see namespaced interfaces -- otherwise it wouldn't be able to bridge interfaces from various namespaces, which is exactly how it works. | 15:02 |
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| bknudson | jaypipes: is it easy to do add regular multiplexing? | 15:02 |
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| jaypipes | dolphm: I don't mind the "do it in httpd" deployment option... it's just that it's different from all the other services other than horizon, so it just slipped through the proverbial cracks when writing our chef cookbooks. | 15:03 |
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| Apsu | Chocobo: As for the scheduling... not sure how what you're suggesting would make sense. Of course the network exists, you're attaching multiple VMs to the same quantum network. Whether it's on one node or multiple, it shouldn't be failing on the second VM. | 15:03 |
| jaypipes | bknudson: you mean using python code like the other OpenStack services? or doing so inside httpd? | 15:03 |
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| bknudson | jaypipes: using the python code like the other services. | 15:03 |
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| jaypipes | bknudson: yeah, it's pretty simple... but it would require keystone moving closer to oslo.wsgi, IIRC... | 15:04 |
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| Chocobo | Apsu: I am worried about the openvswitch warnings as well, but according to a response on the mailing lists it is "normal". Here is my post: https://lists.launchpad.net/openstack/msg24745.html | 15:05 |
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| Chocobo | Apsu: this is what he emailed me: http://pastie.org/8086374 | 15:06 |
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| Chocobo | Apsu: My guess is "WARNING [quantum.db.agentschedulers_db] Fail scheduling network" should read "INFO [quantum.db.agentschedulers_db] network exists" | 15:08 |
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| dolphm | jaypipes: if both evenlet and httpd deployment options provided the same performance, which would you use? | 15:08 |
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| Chocobo | Apsu: as for scheduling, it looks like compute_fill_first_cost_fn_weight might control how much "spread" there is in scheduling. After creating a bunch of VMs I finally got one to launch on a second node. | 15:10 |
| jaypipes | dolphm: I would use the eventlet deployment option, simply because that is what the other services are deployed with. If our other services were all contained in httpd, we'd go that route... it's a consistency thing for us. | 15:10 |
| dolphm | jaypipes: fair enough - just curious | 15:10 |
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| bknudson | jaypipes: do the other services support running in httpd? | 15:11 |
| jaypipes | dolphm: now... if someone showed massive performance improvments when running in a wsgi container like httpd vs. the python spawning deployment, we'd definitely look to become consistent the other way around ;) | 15:11 |
| Apsu | Chocobo: That's instance scheduling though. | 15:12 |
| jaypipes | bknudson: yes, but it's not common and thus not tested much. | 15:12 |
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| Chocobo | Apsu: yes, that is another problem I was having. it seemed like all VMs were going to a single host. The network scheduling is a different issue. I think the warning is just stating that the network exists, so it couldn't be created. much like I get this warning from cinder: "WARNING [cinder.volume.drivers.nfs] dedup:/big_pool/cinder-volumes is already mounted" Perhaps I am getting these because I have verbose =True? | 15:13 |
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| Chocobo | oops! Sorry, I thought I was on #openstack (not -dev) | 15:16 |
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| markmc | dstufft, hey, there ? | 15:23 |
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| markmc | dstufft, got something which looks like a pip bug | 15:23 |
| dstufft | markmc: sup | 15:23 |
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| markmc | dstufft, https://bugs.launchpad.net/oslo/+bug/1194807 | 15:23 |
| markmc | dstufft, see the commands in the last comment | 15:23 |
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| * markmc adds some version numbers and stuff | 15:24 | |
| jd__ | markmc: when is the next Oslo meeting? | 15:24 |
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| dstufft | hum | 15:25 |
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| markmc | dstufft, ok, added all my old version numbers | 15:25 |
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| dstufft | markmc: most likely unrelated, but btw 1.2.1 is vulnerable to arbitrary code execution via MITM | 15:26 |
| dstufft | pip 1.2.1 that is | 15:26 |
| markmc | jd__, we schedule them on demand: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Oslo#Agenda_for_Next_Meeting | 15:27 |
| markmc | dstufft, a newer virtualenv would install a newer pip? | 15:27 |
| jd__ | markmc: I missed that point, thanks | 15:27 |
| markmc | jd__, np | 15:27 |
| dstufft | markmc: yea a venv release bundles whatever the newest pip is at the time | 15:27 |
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| markmc | dstufft, ok, thanks | 15:27 |
| dstufft | markmc: pip 1.3 was the first release to use and verify HTTPS from PyPI | 15:27 |
| markmc | dstufft, cool, thanks | 15:28 |
| dstufft | I'm looking at your actual problem though | 15:28 |
| dstufft | Just thought i'd mention :) | 15:28 |
| markmc | dstufft, I'm on a lamely old version of fedora | 15:28 |
| markmc | dstufft, good to know | 15:28 |
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| dstufft | markmc: interesting in that those commands work for me | 15:31 |
| dstufft | markmc: oslo is a namespace package? | 15:31 |
| markmc | dstufft, yar | 15:31 |
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| markmc | dstufft, you tried "python -c 'from oslo.config.cfg import DeprecatedOpt'" ? | 15:32 |
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| markmc | dstufft, DeprecatedOpt is a class which only exists in 1.2 | 15:33 |
| markmc | dstufft, I tried upgrade pip to 1.3 (pip install --upgrade pip) and got the same behaviour | 15:33 |
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| dstufft | markmc: yea | 15:33 |
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| markmc | dstufft, odder and odder, this gets | 15:33 |
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| dstufft | https://gist.github.com/dstufft/d96d5f198841b017844d | 15:34 |
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| markmc | dstufft, your pip install just has the oslo.config-master URL | 15:34 |
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| markmc | dstufft, mine has python-keystoneclient too | 15:35 |
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| markmc | dstufft, which pulls in oslo.config 1.1.1 as a transitive dependency | 15:35 |
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| dstufft | oh oops | 15:35 |
| dstufft | I missed that part | 15:35 |
| markmc | cool | 15:35 |
| dstufft | sec | 15:35 |
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| _TheDodd_ | Is anyone familiar with common reasons that `tox -e cover` might fail? | 15:37 |
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| _TheDodd_ | I'm getting a key error for 'VIRTUAL_ENV', but that's it | 15:38 |
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| dstufft | markmc: so | 15:38 |
| dstufft | here's something interesting | 15:38 |
| dstufft | successfully installed oslo.config-1.2.0.a34.g08203f6 python-keystoneclient six d2to1 pbr iso8601 prettytable requests simplejson oslo.config setuptools-git | 15:38 |
| ayoung | dolphm, the whole "Driver has a different interface than the Manager" thing is really starting to mess me up. Would you mind if I took it over from you? | 15:38 |
| dolphm | ayoung: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/34752/ | 15:39 |
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| ayoung | dolphm, Rock on! | 15:39 |
| clarkb | _TheDodd_: is that for keystone? I think I broke it | 15:39 |
| clarkb | thought I pusehd a fix but must've failed | 15:39 |
| _TheDodd_ | Yes, it is for keystone. | 15:39 |
| _TheDodd_ | clarkb, Yes, it is for keystone. | 15:40 |
| dolphm | bknudson: ayoung and i would really like to see this go in :D https://review.openstack.org/#/c/34752/ | 15:40 |
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| bknudson | dolphm: will take a look. sounds like it will clean things up a lot | 15:40 |
| clarkb | _TheDodd_: in your tox.ini add VIRTUAL_ENV={envdir} to the keystone cover setenv section | 15:40 |
| clarkb | _TheDodd_: and see if that fixes it | 15:40 |
| markmc | dstufft, right :) | 15:40 |
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| bknudson | I'm tired of telling people to name their context parameter because I can't figure out what a bare "None" is being used for. | 15:41 |
| dstufft | markmc: pip install http://tarballs.openstack.org/oslo.config/oslo.config-master.tar.gz#egg=oslo.config python-keystoneclient | 15:41 |
| dstufft | that works for me | 15:41 |
| clarkb | I thought I pushed that fix, but apparently I didn't | 15:41 |
| clarkb | I fail | 15:41 |
| markmc | dstufft, it seems not realize that the thing it installed from the URL satisfies the 'oslo.config>=1.1.0' requirement | 15:41 |
| markmc | dstufft, wow | 15:41 |
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| _TheDodd_ | clarkb, thanks! I will make the modification and inform you of the results. | 15:41 |
| dstufft | markmc: I can't remember off the top of my head if version is supposed to be allowed in an #egg= or not, if it is then seems like there's a bug where it's confusing the version with the name | 15:42 |
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| markmc | dstufft, confirmed that works | 15:43 |
| markmc | dstufft, it is supposed to be allowed, there's a whole bunch of code in pip around it | 15:43 |
| markmc | dstufft, but I'm vague on the details now | 15:43 |
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| dstufft | markmc: can you open a bug on github.com/pypa/pip? | 15:44 |
| markmc | dstufft, will do, thanks | 15:44 |
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| markmc | dstufft, ah, some details in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/30938/1/pbr/packaging.py | 15:45 |
| markmc | dstufft, but looking at that might start a whole other conversation :) | 15:45 |
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| dstufft | markmc: I think by now my ire towards that part of pbr is well established ;) | 15:47 |
| dstufft | Now to sort out these 502's :[ | 15:47 |
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| _TheDodd_ | clarkb, I just finished running `tox -ecover` with said change to tox.ini, and we're golden! | 15:49 |
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| _TheDodd_ | clarkb, I'll go ahead and file a bug report on the issue. | 15:50 |
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| markmc | dstufft, thanks again for looking | 15:56 |
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| ayoung | bknudson, if you get a chance, can you expedite https://review.openstack.org/#/c/34752/ as it touches a lot of code, and it is a long needed cleanup? | 16:00 |
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| bknudson | ayoung: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/34752/ generally looks good... maybe we'll come to regret it but there's got to be a better way to make the context available. | 16:08 |
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| ayoung | bknudson, agreed, and we haven't used it thus far | 16:09 |
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| bknudson | does python have thread-local variables? | 16:11 |
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| ayoung | bknudson, You, aside from the eventlet ones? | 16:11 |
| ayoung | bknudson, http://docs.python.org/2/library/threading.html#threading.local | 16:12 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/nova: Sync to_primitive() IPAddress support from Oslo https://review.openstack.org/34277 | 16:12 |
| bknudson | ayoung: does that work with the greenthreads used in keystone? | 16:12 |
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| ayoung | bknudson, nope | 16:13 |
| ayoung | bknudson, what are you trying to do? | 16:13 |
| danpb | ayoung: but greenthreads module monkeypatches the whole of 'threading' to install versions of the apis/objects which work with greenthreads | 16:14 |
| bknudson | ayoung: make the context available. | 16:14 |
| danpb | ayoung: so i would have thought that included the threading.local class | 16:14 |
| ayoung | bknudson, for HTTPD, we are probably going to run in prefork mode, so we don't even need thread local. Can be a global | 16:14 |
| bknudson | ayoung: in case somebody asks why their custom backend doesn't work anymore because they were using the context. | 16:14 |
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| ayoung | bknudson, If you look at the -2ed notifications review, you can see that they are using greenthreads local | 16:15 |
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| ayoung | danpb, I suspect you are right, just that greenthreads has its own way of doing things. SO, bknudson I think you are right: IF we decide we need the context, we can pass it in a thread local | 16:15 |
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| dolphm | bknudson: fixed everything except the extraneous style change in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/34752/ | 16:32 |
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| dolphm | bknudson: on the style change, the paren was on the wrong line, and i fixed a few of those in the same patch (the others were on relevant manager calls) | 16:33 |
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| bknudson | dolphm: oops, I approved it already | 16:59 |
| bknudson | but ayoung had already +2. | 17:00 |
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| ayoung | stevemar, here | 17:27 |
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| kbrierly | Is there anywhere in openstack that would show who deleted an instance? | 17:30 |
| kbrierly | have an issue of my instance is gone and i did not delete it | 17:32 |
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| russellb | sandywalsh: I was just looking at https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/libvirt-exists-support and I can't find where the code for this is xen specific | 18:01 |
| sandywalsh | russellb, <looking> | 18:01 |
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| russellb | sandywalsh: was going to knock it out since it sounded easy, but it looks generic to me | 18:02 |
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| russellb | sandywalsh: one potential bit of confusion is that the periodic task is off by default, so most deployments probably aren't getting it because of that | 18:03 |
| sandywalsh | russellb, it's the nova usage code, it makes calls down to the virt layer to get the instance info from the hypervisor, but those virt-level calls don't exist in libvirt (confirming with dragondm ) | 18:03 |
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| russellb | hm, ok, will look harder | 18:04 |
| sandywalsh | russellb, let me see if I can get you a line to look at ... sec | 18:04 |
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| russellb | sandywalsh: perhaps you meant the bandwidth usage notifications, instead of exists? | 18:08 |
| sandywalsh | russellb, the usage audit starts here https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/compute/manager.py#L3752 | 18:09 |
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| russellb | sandywalsh: but no driver calls in there | 18:10 |
| sandywalsh | russellb, yeah, I'm still looking, there's supposed to be a check that the instance really exists in the hypervisor (and that there are no instances in the HV that aren't in the nova db) ... still looking :) | 18:11 |
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| sandywalsh | russellb, sorry, I can't see it immediately myself either. Let me confirm with dragondm and get back to you asap. | 18:16 |
| sandywalsh | russellb, (there's a call somewhere there I'm missing I'm sure) | 18:16 |
| russellb | sandywalsh: sure, all good. ping me whenever. :) | 18:16 |
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| sandywalsh | russellb, I think this is it https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/compute/resource_tracker.py#L528 | 18:22 |
| sandywalsh | russellb, get_per_instance_usage() | 18:22 |
| sandywalsh | russellb, (and related calls in the resource tracker) | 18:23 |
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| sandywalsh | russellb, all this bubbles up to providing meaningful .exists notifications | 18:24 |
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| russellb | sandywalsh: k, i'll look into how this gets into the notifications | 18:24 |
| russellb | thanks! | 18:25 |
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| sandywalsh | russellb, np. sorry for the confusion :) | 18:26 |
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| ayoung | stevemar, been pulled a few different diretions today. I'll take another look at /29130. Anything I should be aware of? | 19:24 |
| ayoung | Ah, I see your comment | 19:25 |
| stevemar | ayoung: np, i hear ya; just eager to get it in asap | 19:25 |
| ayoung | stevemar, So look in the file token/controller.py or auth/controllers.py and checkout the logic for trusts. With oauth, I asssume that at the end of it, the user ends up with a standard Keystone token, right? | 19:26 |
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| stevemar | ayoung: main things I need help on: 1) what am i missing re: trusts, 2) your suggestion about putting the db code in a specific repo | 19:27 |
| stevemar | ayoung: yep, standard keystone token | 19:27 |
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| ayoung | stevemar, so if I set up oauth so you can get a token on my behalf, is that token impersonating me, or is there some distinction in the token saying "for ayoung, but issued to stevemar" ? | 19:28 |
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| stevemar | currently, impersonating. | 19:29 |
| stevemar | ayoung ^ | 19:29 |
| ayoung | stevemar, ok, so that is the first thing, we would actually like to get away from impersonation. It is only in trusts because it seems some swift use cases call for it | 19:29 |
| stevemar | ayoung: is there a way to change (not sure if thats the right word) the token to say 'for ayoung, but issued by stevemar'? | 19:30 |
| ayoung | stevemar, yep. So look in the trust code for 'impersonate' | 19:30 |
| ayoung | I can point you at a unit test | 19:30 |
| stevemar | ayoung: alright, let me check it out | 19:30 |
| stevemar | ayoung, yes, please do | 19:30 |
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| ayoung | stevemar, https://github.com/openstack/keystone/blob/master/tests/test_v3_auth.py#L1122 | 19:31 |
| ayoung | All of those unit tests need to pass with oauth tokens | 19:31 |
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| ayoung | stevemar, a "trust" is probably safe to parse as "consumer" for oauth | 19:32 |
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| ayoung | stevemar, get through that, and we can discuss the database thing. If we end up reusing and modifying the trust table, it probably makes sense to have it in the core migrations, otherwise we probably should put it into an oauth specific migration repo, and then we can test it separately from the rest of the migrations. | 19:35 |
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| sandywalsh | dragondm, nothing, I think we got it | 20:49 |
| sandywalsh | dragondm, I was trying to update russellb on the virt layer calls, that resource tracker uses, that are in xen but not libvirt | 20:50 |
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| sandywalsh | dragondm, I couldn't remember where they were stemming from (I was looking in compute.manager, etc) | 20:51 |
| russellb | yeah, i read the blueprint about the exists notification, looked at where it's emitted, and didn't see any driver calls | 20:51 |
| sandywalsh | it builds up the list throughout the day and blasts them out at end-of-day | 20:52 |
| russellb | yar | 20:52 |
| dragondm | yah, nova/compute/manager.py: _poll_bandwidth_usage | 20:52 |
| dragondm | virt function is self.driver.get_all_bw_counters for bw. | 20:53 |
| dragondm | it's stubbed for other virts. They will gen the notifications if they are turned on, they just woun't report bw numbers. | 20:54 |
| sandywalsh | dragondm, there are other virt layer calls in resource_tracker.py related to this as well, no? | 20:54 |
| dragondm | resource_tracker ...? I don't think that's related to notifications. | 20:55 |
| sandywalsh | I think they populate usage info | 20:55 |
| dragondm | resource _tracker is just used by the scheduler, iirc. | 20:55 |
| sandywalsh | heh, I have to look at it again now :) | 20:55 |
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| sandywalsh | dragondm, it actually has some very handy info in there (orphaned instances, etc) that /should/ be generating notifications though | 20:57 |
| dragondm | anyway, that bp is not entirely accurate. nova will emit .exists events for other virts. They just won't have bw data. they will have info on the instance. | 20:57 |
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| dragondm | And the get_all_bw_counters() method for Xen just looks at the if counters on the dom0. libvirt can probably do similar. | 21:01 |
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| markwash | jculp: I'm a bit slammed today | 21:18 |
| markwash | jculp: I think your test change works just right, it is just that sometimes I get a bad feeling about mox-based testing | 21:18 |
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| markwash | jculp: so I was wondering if you had a chance to try to write a more robust test. . but honestly I kinda think we should just merge what you have proposed, now, and revisit the testing at a later date | 21:19 |
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| dolphm | bknudson: what happened on the gate failure? i'm confused as to whether you did something wrong or not | 21:42 |
| dolphm | bknudson: (the gate job was going to fail anyway, because of a bad test on my part) | 21:43 |
| bknudson | dolphm: I approved it before it passed the gate. | 21:43 |
| dolphm | bknudson: i've never known that to cause any issues though | 21:43 |
| bknudson | dolphm: I guess it causes a gate reset, whatever that is. | 21:44 |
| dolphm | sdague: can you provide any insight into the "gate reset" you referred to? if bknudson did something wrong (approving before the initial gate jobs were completed) then i know i'm guilty of the same in the past | 21:45 |
| dolphm | sdague: i would assume that killing the check jobs in favor of skipping to the verification gate would be allowed, and if anything, save on some CI resources | 21:46 |
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| jog0 | dolphm: with regard to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/34650/ I have made it backwards compatable | 22:10 |
| clarkb | dolphm: the issue is that we test changes that get approved after a failing over and over until the failing one gets out of the gate | 22:10 |
| clarkb | dolphm it wont get kicked until it gets to the head of the queue | 22:11 |
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| clarkb | effectively turning testing into O(n) instead of O(1) | 22:11 |
| clarkb | tl;dr it slows everyone else down | 22:12 |
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| dolphm | clarkb: hmm, good to know... is that a new issue / something that can be fixed in the long run? | 22:12 |
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| clarkb | its not a new issue. it is inherent to testing serialized changes in parallel | 22:13 |
| clarkb | we still worst case to being effectively serial | 22:13 |
| dolphm | jog0: so, what about kvs is "fake" and how does the kvs token driver differ from every other kvs driver in keystone? why not actually improve the kvs driver with configurable limits, or to purge itself of expired tokens, etc? | 22:13 |
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| clarkb | we can try to make it handle somd issues better but one of legit fails is hard to understand until no other changes are ahead of it | 22:14 |
| lifeless | someone called my name ? | 22:15 |
| dolphm | clarkb: i assume you also can't enforce good behavior on our side? ignore/warn about approval votes prior to checks passing? | 22:15 |
| jog0 | lifeless: see dolphm's question. I thought you can answer it best | 22:15 |
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| lifeless | jog0: which one in particular ? | 22:17 |
| lifeless | jog0: oh right kvs | 22:18 |
| jog0 | lifeless: yup | 22:18 |
| lifeless | dolphm: the in-python store isn't suitable for production use today. I don't think it's different from any other in-python stores in keystone TBH. | 22:18 |
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| bknudson | dolphm: I think I answered your comment on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/30176/ if you could look again. | 22:18 |
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| lifeless | dolphm: they aren't clusterable - no HA; they aren't scalable to even modest load (a single rack overwhelmed the token kvs store which is why clint filed the bug about which should be the default. | 22:19 |
| lifeless | dolphm: could you make them better? Yes. But why would you? When would we /want/ to tell folk 'run this new thing rather than memcache+SQL' ? | 22:19 |
| dolphm | lifeless: where are we telling people to use the kvs driver? | 22:21 |
| dolphm | lifeless: *any* kvs driver? | 22:21 |
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| lifeless | dolphm: until a week or so ago it was *the default* | 22:21 |
| lifeless | dolphm: but if we aren't telling people to use it, and we won't tell people to use it, why shouldn't we make it clear that they shouldn't use it via the name ? | 22:22 |
| bknudson | why even have it if it's not good for anything? | 22:22 |
| dolphm | lifeless: 'kvs' indicates what it is, changing it to 'fake' is less descriptive and doesn't actually solve your problem (if you have one?) | 22:23 |
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| lifeless | bknudson: jog0 found it easier to rename than removed, because it's used in tests. | 22:24 |
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| jog0 | bknudson: because it is useful for unit/integration testing (no external dependency) | 22:24 |
| lifeless | dolphm: so your objection is that the name doesn't include any mention of the way it does it's storage? | 22:25 |
| jog0 | bknudson: I tried to move it into the testing directory but that was non-trivial to do | 22:25 |
| bknudson | I don't think it's useful for testing anything either. sqlite is better. | 22:25 |
| lifeless | bknudson: +1 | 22:25 |
| jog0 | (because of the tests being outside the keystone directory | 22:26 |
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| jog0 | bknudson: makes sense to me, thought this would be an easier approach to get accepted | 22:26 |
| dolphm | lifeless: jog0: i'd rather not support the driver at all than obfuscate it | 22:26 |
| bknudson | It's probably actually bad from a testing perspective since it would give a false sense of security. | 22:26 |
| lifeless | dolphm: so sounds to me like jog0 should plug at this a bit longer and delete it | 22:27 |
| dolphm | lifeless: if the kvs drivers were only touched by test_backend_kvs, then we could consider them deprecated in havana and delete them after that | 22:28 |
| bknudson | also we waste development time updating it and also review time trying to figure out how this weird backend works. | 22:28 |
| jog0 | dolphm: sounds good to me, what about the deprecate for one cycle policy though? | 22:28 |
| bknudson | have it print out a log message when it's loaded says it's deprecated. | 22:28 |
| dolphm | bknudson: +1 | 22:28 |
| jog0 | bknudson: done | 22:28 |
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| jog0 | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/34650/3/keystone/token/backends/kvs.py | 22:29 |
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| jog0 | I will undo the rename adn add in the warning and make sure the docstring is explicit | 22:29 |
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| lifeless | dolphm: on the name thing though, if you look at token/backends/kvs.py there is /not/ indication it isn't suitable for prod. So the issue we have is that users have no reason *not* to try KVS, unless they read the implementation and think hard about performance and HA. | 22:29 |
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| lifeless | dolphm: thats purely a quality thing, not whether TripleO is affected. | 22:29 |
| dolphm | lifeless: it shouldn't be documented in end-user documentation | 22:29 |
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| lifeless | dolphm: there isn't even a docstring | 22:30 |
| * SpamapS reads backscroll | 22:30 | |
| SpamapS | seems to me the way forward is obvious | 22:30 |
| SpamapS | switch tests to using sqlite in-memory | 22:30 |
| SpamapS | deprecate kvs, remove in "I" | 22:30 |
| lifeless | dolphm: from a pure selfish tripleo perspective we dont' need to do anything; what we want to do is help keystone be better though, by chasing the root cause of the issue. | 22:30 |
| bknudson | tests already use sqlite in-memory. | 22:30 |
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| lifeless | bknudson: not all, or jog0 wouldn't have had issues, I presume? | 22:30 |
| bknudson | we have tests that cover each backend. | 22:31 |
| jog0 | bknudson: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/34650/3/tests/test_overrides.conf | 22:31 |
| bknudson | the tests verify each backend works essentially the same. | 22:31 |
| jog0 | someting about test_overrides | 22:31 |
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| jog0 | which defaulted to the kvs backend | 22:32 |
| bknudson | there's usually a default config and then other subclass Tests override.... probably override the test_overrides to do other backends. | 22:33 |
| dolphm | bknudson: yeah, not completely... we still use kvs in a bunch of places | 22:33 |
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| lifeless | dolphm: btw I'm not saying kvs *should* be in end user docs.But it's in blog posts: http://www.sebastien-han.fr/blog/2012/12/12/cleanup-keystone-tokens/ | 22:33 |
| jog0 | going forward, I will remove the fake driver rename. mark kvs as deprecated and for testing only. and when Icehouse comes around we kill it dead | 22:34 |
| jog0 | (along with excise requirement from tests) | 22:34 |
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| lifeless | dolphm: so the basic change I'm proposing is that we make it hard for users to use kvs, because its not a production store - AIUI that is. | 22:34 |
| lifeless | dolphm: however is best to achieve that, I'm cool with. | 22:34 |
| jog0 | dolphm: bknudson: how does that sound? | 22:34 |
| dolphm | jog0: that would be awesome | 22:34 |
| dolphm | lifeless: +1 | 22:34 |
| bknudson | jog0: sounds great! | 22:35 |
| lifeless | cool. | 22:35 |
| jog0 | oh and add a docimpact flag too | 22:35 |
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| jog0 | thankgs guys, that was much easier then I thought | 22:35 |
| bknudson | was just going to say that if there's some docs that could be updated would be good. | 22:35 |
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| dolphm | bknudson: hopefully there aren't! but it's worth a DocImpact to ensure we double check | 22:36 |
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| lifeless | jog0: various architecture docs. dev docs have it. Probably some pictures e.g. | 22:37 |
| lifeless | page 5 of http://www.slideshare.net/aptira/aptira-presents-openstack-keystone-identity-service | 22:37 |
| lifeless | has a pic from the mega openstack arch diagram that references it | 22:37 |
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| bknudson | jog0: Here's where we do SQL token tests: https://github.com/openstack/keystone/blob/master/tests/test_backend_sql.py#L245 ... | 22:40 |
| bknudson | SqlTests setUp overrides overrides with SQL: https://github.com/openstack/keystone/blob/master/tests/test_backend_sql.py#L43 | 22:40 |
| bknudson | convoluted. | 22:40 |
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| dolphm | lifeless: i'd suggest changing every driver in test_overrides to use sql instead of kvs, and seeing what setUp()'s fail (because they need to db_sync) | 22:46 |
| lifeless | jog0: ^ | 22:46 |
| lifeless | dolphm: thanks | 22:46 |
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| bknudson | jog0: You might run into the problem fixed with this: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/29670/ ... so might want to try with that fix if you have a problem. | 22:48 |
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