Tuesday, 2013-06-04

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yjiang5ianw: ping00:59
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ianwyjiang5: hello00:59
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yjiang5ianw: I'm considering the alias and the SR-IOV support.01:00
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ianwyjiang5: ok ... for what?  are you sure you've got the right ianw? :)01:01
yjiang5:$01:01
yjiang5are you from cisco?01:01
yjiang5ian wells01:01
ianwno, that's not me :)01:02
yjiang5sorry :(01:02
ianwi'm from red hat01:02
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yjiang5sorry for bothering?01:02
yjiang5bye01:03
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/keystone: Maintain tokens after role assignments (bug 1170186)  https://review.openstack.org/3154801:16
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1170186 in keystone "Unscope token gets revoked when adding a user to a project" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/117018601:16
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jamielennoxayoung: here?01:29
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SpamapSany chance we'll see a quantumclient release in the next 24 hours?01:34
* SpamapS is working around bugs fixed in trunk..01:34
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ayoungjamielennox, here for a little02:18
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sandeepr!ping devananda02:21
openstackpong02:21
ayoungjamielennox, tox -v -epep802:22
jamielennoxayoung: does https://blueprints.launchpad.net/python-keystoneclient/+spec/python-keystone-client-interroperate-http-auth-mechanisms more or less cover client side plugins02:22
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jamielennoxayoung: regarding the isolate patch?02:24
ayoungjamielennox, it does to me.  Might be good to specify the changes necessary, but it covers the scope02:25
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ayoungjamielennox, yea, or any other pep8 differences02:25
ayoungjamielennox,  take a look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/21942/  WRT the python-keystone-client-interroperate-http-auth-mechanisms blueprint as well02:26
jamielennoxpep8 should be running, and most of it should be picked up within the editor.02:26
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ayoungYeah, well, there is pep8 and then there is tox pep8.  It all depends on which set of rules get enforced.  For example, only the tox one caught the fact that I had imports out of order.02:27
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ayoungjamielennox, anything else?  Otherwise, I'ma crash02:31
jamielennoxthat's fine, i'm going to keep plugging away at this02:32
jamielennoxayoung: good night02:32
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devanandasandeepr: pong03:21
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asalkeldwhat is the process of getting a new package into requirements?03:34
asalkeldjust review? or email -dev ml?03:34
clarkbasalkeld: a review03:35
asalkeldcool, super simple package03:36
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asalkeld(one function)03:36
asalkeldhttps://github.com/hynek/first/blob/master/first.py03:36
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jamielennoxmy review is failing in devstack with: pkg_resources.VersionConflict: (pbr 0.4.5 (/opt/stack/new/pbr), Requirement.parse('pbr>=0.5,<0.6')), does anyone know what is going on there and why it would happen now?04:26
jamielennoxhttp://logs.openstack.org/31467/3/check/gate-tempest-devstack-vm-full/20245/04:26
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clarkbjamielennox: I think I just fixed it04:32
jamielennoxclarkb: ok, it's popped up in another review as well i was about to file an infrastructure bug04:33
clarkbjamielennox: you can try rerunning your tests. (the git repo replica that devstack pulls from had an old version of pbr so that was getting installed)04:33
clarkbreplication was failing because it was trying to do a non fast forward04:33
jamielennoxshould it be filed anyway or just no bug?04:34
clarkbup to you. I don't think it needs a bug but may be nice to track how many things died over the last few hours because of it04:34
jamielennoxthat's ok then, i'm re-running now. if it doesn't pass this time i'll file it04:36
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sandeepr_homeanyone did a openstack baremetal provisioning?04:48
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/ceilometer: sqlalchemy: migration error when running db-sync  https://review.openstack.org/3154504:52
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sandeepr_homehey devananda, i went through your video Provisioning Bare Metal with OpenStack05:03
sandeepr_homeand had questions on building the environment05:04
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lifelesssandeepr_home: hi, maybe I can help. What questions do you have?05:12
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sandeepr_homethanks lifeless, in the pre-req section. first thing is to have openstack up.05:22
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sandeepr_homelifeless, this can be achieved via devstack or manual install. https://a248.e.akamai.net/camo.github.com/ab980001cd34ba87f82f8966a259318682aa04b7/687474703a2f2f692e696d6775722e636f6d2f3538447234386e2e6a706705:23
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sandeepr_homei choose the manual install method. in the nova section is nova-compute and nova-novncproxy still needed? nova-baremetal is needed.05:25
sandeepr_homeany other package to be installed?05:25
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lifelesssandeepr_home: I don't know about packages; we work from trunk - from git05:42
lifelesssandeepr_home: you'll need all of nova : api scheduler orchestrate etc05:42
lifelesssandeepr_home: I highly recommend using devstack or bootstack unless you are very familiar with nova05:42
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sandeepr_homelifeless, i'm quite familiar with nova since i have been using grizzly manual install to provision vm instances05:44
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sandeepr_homelifeless, once we have openstack ready the next step is to have images?05:48
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lifelesssandeepr_home: next step is to set the driver to baremetal06:03
lifelesssandeepr_home: and register bare metal nodes06:04
sandeepr_homelifeless, i can do the set driver to baremetal in nova.conf. register bare metal node - is this achieved by setting the boot order to pxe in the bare metal or any other method?06:05
lifelessnova baremetal-node-create06:05
lifelesssandeepr_home: have you seen https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Baremetal#Differences_in_Starting_a_Baremetal_Cloud ?06:06
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sandeepr_homelifeless, thats super06:14
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/tempest: Update a test to work with Quantum SecGroup  https://review.openstack.org/3027107:49
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/tempest: Fixes bugs in test_s3_ec2_images  https://review.openstack.org/2838908:00
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/ceilometer: session flushing error  https://review.openstack.org/3129108:16
Adri2000anyone knows how can I fix the "Multiple positional placeholders" warning from flake8?08:17
Adri2000print _("Service %s on host %s deleted.") % (service, host)08:18
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JordanPAdri2000, : https://github.com/openstack-dev/hacking/blob/master/hacking/core.py#L56908:23
JordanPAdri2000, try something like _("Service %s on host %s deleted.") % (service, host))08:24
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JordanPerf no, don't try this, doesnt make sense08:24
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sandeepr_home!ping lifeless08:39
openstackpong08:39
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Adri2000JordanP: % {'service': service, 'host': host} seems to work08:50
Adri2000but does it make sense? I don't know08:50
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sandeepr_homelifeless, the openstack node via devstack - does it need two nics or one?08:59
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/nova: Stop libvirt errors from outputting to strerr  https://review.openstack.org/3100109:34
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/quantum: NEC plugin: Ensure to delete portinfo when port_removed RPC.  https://review.openstack.org/3161009:34
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/nova: Avoiding multiple code loops in filter scheduler  https://review.openstack.org/3148012:37
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/nova: Link to explanation of --checksum-full rule.  https://review.openstack.org/3155712:44
kaushikcmaurosr: around?12:46
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/oslo-incubator: Fix problem with long messages in Qpid  https://review.openstack.org/2871113:24
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/oslo-incubator: Enable H306 hacking check.  https://review.openstack.org/3161713:25
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/nova: Ports consoles API to v3 API  https://review.openstack.org/2892813:34
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/keystone: typo in 'import pydev' statement  https://review.openstack.org/3114713:35
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/swift: Fix faked-out account GET for JSON and XML.  https://review.openstack.org/3079713:58
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enikanorov-w_salv-orlando: hi13:59
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salv-orlandoenikanorov-w_: Hi. Is this about the service type framework review?14:06
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enikanorov-w_nope, don't worry :)14:06
salv-orlandowill review tonight; I've been busy with something else recently14:06
salv-orlandohow can I help?14:06
enikanorov-w_actually I was going to offer help on  api-core-for-services blueprint14:06
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enikanorov-w_is there a part I can implement? As far as description suggests it could be split to several parts14:07
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salv-orlandoIs there already any item you would like to take on?14:08
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salv-orlandoFor me the first work item would be to change the loading process so that each service plugin can have a 'core' RESOURCE_ATTRIBUTE_MAP14:10
salv-orlandowhich is loaded by the main API middleware rather than the extension middleware14:10
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enikanorov-w_so the idea is that once we've loaded service plugin, main API requests plugin's extension and loads it?14:11
salv-orlandonot really because indeed the goal is that a "plugin extension" is not anymore an "extension".14:12
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enikanorov-w_understood. how do we enable/disable this new part of core API?14:12
enikanorov-w_(former extension)14:12
enikanorov-w_or, better said, load or do not load14:13
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salv-orlandoI think that if one has a service plugin in the configuration file, than the corresponding core API is loaded. Otherwise it isn't.14:13
salv-orlandoI have not fleshed out the details, so this might be incorrect.14:13
salv-orlandoAs you probably are already suspecting we do not have a way to say "this is the API for this plugin" unless we use the extension framework14:14
ayoungdolphm, on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/31249/  Your comment is actually addressed by the follow on patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/31555/14:14
enikanorov-w_right14:15
enikanorov-w_ok, let me dig a bit deeper and I'll come up with some design and we'll discuss14:15
salv-orlandoIf you look at how the router is created for core resources, it's pretty much hardcoded to network, port, subnet14:15
dolphmayoung: why not finish migration 23 in a single patchset?14:15
enikanorov-w_yep14:15
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salv-orlandoI think we can add a further layer of indirection there.14:15
salv-orlandoIterating over services first and over resources for each service then.14:16
enikanorov-w_yes, that's what I'm thinking about14:16
salv-orlandoBut that where I stopped my work and moved to something else14:16
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salv-orlandoso If you can pick it up from there, it would be greast14:16
salv-orlandogreat14:16
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enikanorov-w_is it a started patch, or just design ideas?14:16
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ayoungdolphm, I can, it is just that the refactoring was necessary for the follow on, which is separate functionality.  23 could stand as is at the end of change 3124914:17
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ayoungdolphm, It is the migtation to split users off from projects that needs to distinguish between the types of constraints14:18
dolphmayoung: but it's potentially broken as is, and you have a fix in a subsequent patch..?14:18
ayoungdolphm, it is not brokne14:18
ayoungwe control the migrations14:18
ayoungso unless people have gone in and changed the schema by hand, it works correctly14:18
ayoungthat function lives only in the migration for 2314:19
dolphmayoung: which is totally the case14:19
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ayoungdolphm, OK,  you feel strongly enough about it, I am fine doing the refactoring in the earlier patch.  Go ahead an -1 and I will make it so14:19
dolphmayoung: the new constraints on valid and expires will fail for everyone who has already created them14:19
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salv-orlandoenikanorov-w_: I have no code14:20
enikanorov-w_ok14:20
ayoungdolphm, those are on the token table.  This has nothing to do with tokens14:20
ayoungthose are not constraints, those are indexes14:21
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ayoungdolphm, but I think what you are saying14:21
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ayoungis that people have gone in and modified their DBs already14:21
dolphmayoung: yeah14:22
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ayoungwhich means that for the index changes, we need to assume they might be there already?14:22
dolphmayoung: i expect to break on them in obvious ways, but not due to vague code :P14:22
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ayoungdolphm, fair enough, I was just not sure how firmly you wanted the change done as you left it at 0, figured you would have -2d it if it was a no -go14:23
dolphmayoung: one of the advantages of breaking apart the valid + expires constraints into separate migrations is that it makes it easier for people to recognize that they've already applied those changes themselves, and to skip those migrations manually14:23
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dolphmayoung: it looked suspicious, but i wasn't sure how broken it would be, so i didn't vote14:24
dolphmayoung: if you've already got an improvement though, it should go in together14:24
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ayoungdolphm, Easy enough to move the change from one patch to an earlier one, too.  Running the test now, and will resubmit.14:28
dolphmayoung: thanks14:28
ayoungdolphm, which leads to another question.14:29
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ayoungdolphm, for the I release, I think we should split the DB migrations by module14:29
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dolphmayoung: i thought you were already working on that?14:30
ayoungdolphm, right now, all of the migrations are in a single place, but the migrate code actually supports doing multiple migrations on the same db14:30
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ayoungdolphm, I was workign on it for extensions14:30
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ayoungbut we should think about doing it for core as well14:30
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dolphmayoung: oh i see what you mean, that's a good second goal then14:30
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ayoungfor example, I could see the argument that policy could be put on a different suystem than the rest of Keystone14:30
dolphmayoung: as long as config is backwards compatible (each component falls back on the existing centralized config if it's own isn't customized)14:31
ayoungand the identity and projects/domains backends could even be split14:31
dolphmayoung: +114:31
ayoungdolphm, it gives us an excuse to also compact the existing migrations:14:31
ayoungwe save the sate at the end of havana, but provide a bulk migration from contral to distributed repos14:31
ayoungand for distributed, just initialize the state14:31
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ayoungwe can keep the old step-by-step migrations around for documentation for a release or two, but we won't have to force everyone to run through each of those steps14:32
ayoungI'll blueprint it and tag it for "I"chang14:33
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dolphmayoung: icehouse14:34
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PhongLyhello, could someone help to review this whenever you have a chance? Thanks: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/29333/14:36
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Adri2000dims: hi, I think I adressed your comment at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/31059/ :) I'll propose another changeset to fix other locals() uses nearby once you confirm I did it right here14:39
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dimsAdri2000, lgtm14:54
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ayoungdolphm, I think https://review.openstack.org/#/c/29093/ needs a rebase15:00
dolphmayoung: thanks, will do15:00
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jgriffithttx: ha!  I was just updating that bug with the same opinion15:16
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kaushikcmaurosr: hi15:24
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sandeepr_ltp!ping devananda,15:25
openstackpong15:25
devanandasandeepr_ltp: pong. hi there!15:25
sandeepr_ltphey devananda, glad you are around :-)15:25
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sandeepr_ltpi'm building a baremetal environment and lifeless gave me a few pointers15:26
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sandeepr_ltpi have few more items which on which i need more information15:26
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devanandashoot15:27
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/swift: implement an rsync_bwlimit setting for object replicator  https://review.openstack.org/3093915:28
sandeepr_ltpam going through https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Baremetal#Differences_in_Starting_a_Baremetal_Cloud15:28
sandeepr_ltpthe first step is to stand up the openstack cloud - i'm not using the devstack method and i'm comfortable using the manual way to install openstack15:29
sandeepr_ltpi'll use a single node to act as the controller with all nova services. can this node be a vm and is it ok to have one nic on this vm?15:30
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devanandasandeepr_ltp: that is possible, but will require some additional networking dance to route things where they need to go15:31
devanandasandeepr_ltp: the specifics of that topology are not well documented, but it is encoded in the tripleo-image-elements repository15:31
anteayahey keystone folk, according to http://docs.openstack.org/developer/keystone/developing.html#running-tests using ./run_tests.sh in /opt/stack/keystone of a new devstack should run the tests, I am getting a lot of errors doing this15:32
anteayaany thought on how to address this?15:32
devanandasandeepr_ltp: that already builds an all-in-one openstack image, which can be run in a VM, and can manage baremetal deployments from that VM15:32
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simorussellb: is there example code on how to lookup an endpoint from the catalog from oslo code ?15:32
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sandeepr_ltpdevananda, do i need to do anything on the vswitch and the top of the rack switch on the nw dance you mentioned?15:34
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/cinder: Implement DB migration for volume transfer BP  https://review.openstack.org/2922715:35
devanandasandeepr_ltp: iirc, there are a few things which have to be reachable. I'll try to sumarize here15:35
devanandasandeepr_ltp: bare metal nodes' PXE DHCP request must be answered by the dnsmasq process in that VM15:36
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devanandasandeepr_ltp: once provisioning is done and the baremetal node boots for the first time, it must reach the metadata service on that VM at 169.254.169.25415:37
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devanandasandeepr_ltp: also, you have the option of routing all traffic between the baremetal nodes and the internet. this can either go through the VM (using GRE, for example) or it can go directly to the TOR switch15:38
devanandasandeepr_ltp: I believe lifeless' work on this has used GRE and routed all public traffic to the bare metal nodes through the VM, and if I remember correctly, he found it easier to do with 2 NICs in that VM15:39
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sandeepr_ltpdevananda, i think 2 nics in the vm makes more sense to me now. one for the private ip and the other for public ip.15:41
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sandeepr_ltpdevananda, since the single vm is the controller and the baremetal compute host - the rest of the stuff in the wiki starting with "Configuration Changes" till the end will happen on that vm?15:45
devanandayes15:45
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sandeepr_ltpi have a dhcp server running in my environment which gives public ip. i'll be creating another network profile called private which will be used for pxe. this should not create an issue?15:47
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devanandasandeepr_ltp: the dnsmasq process on the controller VM must answer the boot requests from the bare metal nodes15:51
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devanandasandeepr_ltp: and it must be able to assign IPs15:52
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sandeepr_homedevananda, do i need to do anything other than what is mentioned in the wiki for dnsmasq to work. given the conflict between the quantum dhcp and dnsmasq?15:57
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anteayaso here is the output I get running ./run_tests.sh in /opt/stack/keystone in a new devstack, I am wondering about the cause of so many errors: https://gist.github.com/anteaya/d3011f369431f6af446c#file-so-many-errors-L1301-L139016:03
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devanandasandeepr_ltp: you must disable quantum-dhcp, and allow nova baremetal to inject static IPs into each node16:05
sandeepr_ltpdevananda, have you faced issue with bm node unable to reach the metadata service on VM at 169.254.169.254?16:05
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devanandasandeepr_ltp: yes. i mentioned athat above. you need to add routes for that since you are using a VM16:06
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devanandasandeepr_ltp: you may find some inspiration in our work here: https://github.com/stackforge/tripleo-image-elements/tree/master/elements/quantum-openvswitch-agent16:07
sandeepr_ltpdevananda, what will be the route add command to be used?16:08
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devanandasandeepr_ltp: also here https://github.com/stackforge/tripleo-image-elements/tree/master/elements/boot-stack16:08
devanandasandeepr_ltp: i do not know off hand exactly what route you need to add, sorry16:09
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sandeepr_ltpdevananda, thanks so much for the start. i'll give a shout if i need any specific help during this journey which i'm sure i'll :-)16:09
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devanandasandeepr_ltp: you're welcome! also, i want to really encourage you to look at our work with tripleo -- we already have all the tooling in place to build an all-in-one-VM that does this16:11
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devanandasandeepr_ltp: no need for you to reinvent the wheel if you are going down the same road :)16:12
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sandeepr_ltpdevananda, sure will take a look at the ooo16:17
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kaushikcmaurosr: around?16:22
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maurosrkaushikc: hey, just got back from lunch, sorry16:28
kaushikcmaurosr: np16:28
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kaushikci was working on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/27468/16:29
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kaushikcwhat we are doing here is letting the admins get access to quotas of customer's16:29
kaushikcso there's a Limits controller16:30
kaushikcUsedLimits controller is an extension on that16:30
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kaushikcif you look at the way it's implemented, what is the best way to give admins access other customer quotas?16:32
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maurosrlet me see16:32
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/cinder: Don't set signing_dir by default.  https://review.openstack.org/3075616:33
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maurosrkaushikc: I think would be enough to pretty much the same of _project_id method but inside an show method16:38
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maurosrand the url with /limits/<tenant-id>16:38
maurosrinstead of the query string16:39
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kaushikcwe were trying to get that working16:40
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kaushikcbut I found that going with that would lead to a lot of code duplication16:41
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kaushikcall the logic in limits controller's index and used limits controller's index16:41
kaushikcwould have to be in show of new extension's controller16:41
kaushikcthis is going to be very bad in terms of maintenance16:42
venkatis it a good idea to store some variable as part of thread local storage (eg., under corolocal.local)?16:42
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kaushikcmaurosr: I think it's better to have a conditional check on an extension in limits controller than make this code duplication16:44
maurosrkaushikc: what about make common stuff in a separeted method?16:44
kaushikcit's not that simple16:44
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kaushikcthat requires a lot of refactoring16:44
kaushikcand template duplication16:44
kaushikcbecause it's already in two classes16:45
kaushikclimits controller and usedlimits extension16:45
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kaushikci would say, till v3 is in place, we can just have a conditional check.16:45
kaushikcthat'll keep it simple16:46
kaushikcwe can get rid of both extensions when we move to v316:46
maurosrkaushikc: ok, people are accepting things like that and I'm in a lost battle on this matter.. go on and do it the way it is, I'm removing my -116:46
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kaushikcmaurosr: thank you16:48
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dolphmwhere do bugs against pbr get filed? oslo?16:48
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maurosrIMHO that will create a mess in v2 that just make harder to organize things in v3, but as I said I'm in a lost battle16:48
maurosrkaushikc: I can recover that chance neither change my review16:49
maurosrkaushikc: do you know who is the author to recovery it from abandoned state?16:49
maurosr*cant16:49
kaushikcyes, i'll talk to him n get it unblocked16:50
kaushikcthanks16:50
kaushikcmaurosr: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/26108/16:52
kaushikcIMHO not many ppl are using cells api16:52
kaushikcI talked to the admins who wanted this feature16:52
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kaushikcand they wanted the capacity info for cells in their infra16:53
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kaushikcthey don't mind having it as a separate api16:53
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kaushikcand the aggregated info makes more sense than giving a list of all cells and their capacity16:54
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maurosrmy -1 is not blocking, it already have a +2.. will soon get merged one way or another16:56
kaushikcmaurosr: but still i want your input16:56
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maurosrkaushikc: if you would design that from the begining, what would you do? separate that in 2 stuff the way it is, or use it in the index?16:57
maurosrmaybe a detailed method16:57
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maurosrlike servers16:57
maurosrwhich I don't like much, but at least would follow the standards in novo16:58
maurosr*nova16:58
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maurosrand also I think in kind of weird to have index detailed and show detailed16:58
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maurosrimho: you have a index, want more? get on the resource to get full details16:59
maurosrbut it's just a minor stuff16:59
kaushikchmm.. yes17:00
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maurosras I said I would go following the standard in nova, call that a detail method would be the best option imhp17:00
maurosrkaushikc: ^17:00
kaushikcadding it in cells detail method?17:00
kaushikcokay17:00
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maurosrkaushikc: yup, would be really fast to change that, and will follow the servers/flavors/images api standard17:02
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ayounggyee, is keystone meeting now or in an hour?17:03
kaushikcmaurosr: i'll try to get that done by tomorrow and ping you again :)17:03
kaushikcthanks17:03
maurosryw17:04
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gyeeayoung, in an hour I think17:13
ayounggyee, thanks17:13
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kaushikcmaurosr: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/27468/17:21
kaushikci got it unblocked17:21
maurosrdone17:21
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kaushikcthanks17:26
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/horizon: Add availability zone choice to launch instance  https://review.openstack.org/3115817:35
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/swift: Change to use dash instead of slash  https://review.openstack.org/3123017:35
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/nova: Remove unused launch_time from instance  https://review.openstack.org/3128717:35
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/cinder: Replace FLAGS with cfg.CONF in scheduler  https://review.openstack.org/3150017:36
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rcritlooks like Jenkins is now doing more pep8 enforcemnt. It dinged me on a couple of unused imports in a test.17:43
rcritthese imports are done to see if optional packages are installed. Is it acceptable/possible to mark these as false-positive?17:43
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simorussellb: why nova/context.py filters the service catalog and removes anything but 'volume' ?17:46
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clarkbrcrit: it is. you probably got caught by the switch to flake8 which runs the hacking check over the code17:47
clarkbrcrit: flake8 will ignore lines if you put a # noqa comment on the line above it17:47
rcritclarkb, ah, yeah, that's it. Ok, thanks17:48
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lifelesssandeepr_ltp: one nic17:54
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lifelessdevananda: sandeepr_ltp: routing - to make the metadata server work in the first iteration we routed it via the bare metal node; no GRE. Ideally though your TOR switch handles 169.254.169.254 and your routes are as normal.17:55
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sandeepr_ltplifeless, so your environment is a vm with one nic?18:08
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lifelesssandeepr_ltp: which environment :)18:09
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lifelesssandeepr: which environment :)18:10
sandeepr_ltplifeless, lol, my question was a continuation of your comment "lifeless> sandeepr_ltp: one nic"18:10
lifelesssandeepr_ltp: you asked what was needed18:10
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sandeepr_ltplifeless, perhaps i should have asked "which one nic" :-) :-)18:10
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lifelesssandeepr_ltp: our test rack has openstack (a boot-stack image) deployed on physical hardware with three nics + vlans :)18:11
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lifelesssandeepr_ltp: which is much more complex than needed for testing18:11
sandeepr_ltplifeless, yes i agree. thats a little more complex18:11
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lifelesssandeepr_ltp: so by 'which environment', I mean - as you asking what my local dev/test setup has, or pre-prod setup, or /... ?18:11
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lifelesssandeepr_ltp: and how it maps to what you use will depend on what you're doing18:12
sandeepr_ltplifeless, the simpler one of the two and i guess thats your dev/test18:12
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lifelesssandeepr_ltp: if you're bringing up a lab of machines vs bringing up vm's emulating baremetal nodes18:12
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lifelessmy dev/test setup has two nics, one on virbr0, one on br99, br99 is shared with emulated baremetal machines, so that the libvirt dnsmasq doesn't interfere18:13
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sandeepr_ltplifeless, my objective is to understand how the baremetal works by building an environment. to achive this my plan is to standup openstack + nova on a single vm with 2 nics18:13
sandeepr_ltpone nic is public ip assigned via dhcp and the other will be pvt to honor pxe request via dnsmasq18:14
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sandeepr_ltpone physical node will be the baremetal target which will pxe boot18:15
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sandeepr_ltpso 99% of my work will be on the single vm?18:15
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lifelesssandeepr_ltp: indeed, yes18:17
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sandeepr_ltplifeless, do i have to do any specific config on the vswitch or tor switch?18:19
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lifelesssandeepr_ltp: your default route needs to hand 169.254.169.254 or the nova metadata service will be inaccessible18:20
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lifelesssandeepr_ltp: for boot-stack / devstack setups we make the bare metal machines route through the nova compute node and use iptables to intercept that address and DNAT it appropriatel18:21
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sandeepr_ltplifeless, this has been a challenge with the openstack non-baremetal environemnt18:21
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sandeepr_ltplifeless, one thing is to enable promiscous mode on both vswitch and tor. anything else?18:22
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lifelesssandeepr_ltp: promiscuous shouldn't be needed18:24
lifelesssandeepr_ltp: just the one thing; handle that ip - either by dnat, policy routes : what works best in your environment i don't know.18:24
lifelesssandeepr_ltp: are you working in a lab with actual machines?18:25
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lifelesssandeepr_ltp: the easiest thing to do is to push your test vm as the default route for the machines18:25
sandeepr_ltplifeless, if actual machines mean physical blade then yes i plan to use physical blade as the baremetal target18:27
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lifelesssandeepr_ltp: sure, yes.18:27
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sandeepr_ltplifeless, when you say push your test vm as def route to achieve this e.g. the test vm has ip 10.0.0.1 then the def route would be that without me having to do anything since that will be the primary nic?18:28
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sandeepr_ltplifeless, or should the pvt ip which will be eth1 should be the def route?18:29
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lifelesssandeepr_ltp: I mean the route that you hand out via your quantum/nova-network config to the instances, should be one of the addresses of the VM, so the VM can DNAT the 169.254.169.254 traffic18:31
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/nova: Fix postgresql failures related to Data type  https://review.openstack.org/3005718:44
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gyeesimo, I mean HMAC auth plugin18:59
simogyee: what's the point of an API for HMAC?18:59
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simogyee: so you want to use a shared secret method and HMAC as authentication ?19:00
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ayounggyee, read through simo's blueprint,19:00
gyeesimo, that's what the credential APIs are designed for, be able to authenticate using a credential19:00
simoI do that basically19:00
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simobut not as a keystone authentication method19:00
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simoperhaps I should though19:00
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ayoungsimo, link?19:00
simobut it would depend on making services full users19:00
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simoayoung: link ?19:01
simoto what exactly ?19:01
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ayounghttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/oslo/+spec/trusted-messaging19:01
simogyee: the problem is that 'services' have no credentials right now19:01
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ayoungsimo, so it turns out one benefit of launchpad is that it links to your blueprints :)19:01
simoheh19:01
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gyeesimo, service does not need credentials19:02
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simogyee: for me it does19:02
gyeeservice verify credentials on behalf of user19:02
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simoit needs credentials in order to do signatures19:02
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simoor rather keys19:02
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simobut the scheme I use is base on sharing a secret with the kds19:02
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simothat's equivalent to credentials19:03
gyeesimo, I think we are talking two difference issues :)19:03
gyeedifferent19:03
ayounggyee, WRT your question on  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/30181/"shouldn't this be in password auth plugin?" I am worried that doing that will increas the scope of this patch too much19:03
simowe are19:03
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simogyee: I know you are talking about user authentication19:03
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simogyee: I am just sayin the problems are similar19:03
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ayounggyee, how can you do HMAC without the credentials mechanism that simo is writing?19:03
simoayoung: he is talking about using HAMC as a user authentication method19:04
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gyeeayoung, you upload your secret key using credential API19:04
gyeecreate an HMAC with your key19:04
simogyee: chicken-egg though19:04
simogyee: how do you authenticate to the credentials api ?19:04
gyeesimo, I think the egg come first :)19:04
simoI'm pretty sure I ate the chicken19:04
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gyeesimo, password, multi-factor, anything19:05
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simosure, but then what's the point ?19:05
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simoif you can already authenticate with one of those methods, why HAMC ?19:05
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simo*HMAC19:05
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simonot against, just wondering19:05
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simothe more we have the more we need to support, the more will rotten and break, and so on19:05
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simogyee: anyway, at least you have readily available functions you can use in that patch I pointed you at19:06
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simogyee: it would be nice if you did not introduce yet another custom HMAC class in openstack :)19:06
gyeesimo, HMAC is common for the existing protocols, ec2, aws, formpost, tempurl, etc19:07
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gyeewe just need a unified mechanism for HMAC validation19:07
ayoungNSS19:07
simogyee: ok19:07
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simoayoung: layer below19:07
gyeeayoung, sure19:07
gyeecommon API19:07
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gyeenss is an implementation detail19:07
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ayounggyee, we have the cms module already in keystone client19:08
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gyeeayoung, simo, lets discuss it in the bp19:09
gyeehttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/keystone/+spec/generic-signature-validation19:09
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simohow do you discuss it there ?19:09
gyeeI just want to make sure we capture all the ideas there19:09
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gyeeI'll ask Nachi to create an etherpad19:10
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ayoungUse the whiteboard19:11
ayounggyee, the whiteboard will notify people of comments etc...19:11
gyeeayoung, good point19:11
ayoungso, if there are changes to the spec, note it on the whiteboard19:11
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ayounghttps://etherpad.openstack.org/HMAC19:13
ayounggyee, there ya go!19:13
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ayounggyee, so, we should not be calling back to keystoen to validate signatures, right?19:15
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gyeeayoung, we should call keystone auth to validate the signature19:20
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gyeesignature auth is no different that password auth19:20
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ayounggyee, so, you are building more auth plugin mechanisms, and I am trying to get us out of that business.19:20
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* ayoung wants it all to go to apapche19:20
simogyee: I am -1, to be honest19:21
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gyeeayoung, there's enough of a pie for both19:21
gyeeyou don't want to force ppl to use apache19:21
simoI don't think you want to proliferate authentication points19:21
ayounggyee, yes.I.do.19:21
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simogyee: the only thing you can achieve is that services start asking users for their passwords19:21
simoand they should not19:21
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simobeside apache, I see no reason why, given we have an internal token system, we should have other actors allowed to perform user authentication19:22
simogyee: what is the use case that requires that ?19:22
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gyeesimo, ec2, s3, formpost, tempurl, are all signature-based19:23
ayounggyee, sounds like a recipe for a refactoring19:23
simoso here you are talking about a service implementing ec2 compatible APIs ?19:23
gyeeayoung, if there's a mandate for apache, then sure, we'll have a different discussion19:24
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gyeesimo, take a look at the ec2 in contrib19:24
simoI don't thikn apache has anything to do with this discussion19:24
gyeeand tell me how its done today19:24
simogyee: I wrote my kds looking at it19:24
simobut didn't care much for what it does, mostly about how it does19:24
simogyee: I think I see your point19:25
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gyeeit basically validates the HMAC signature and issue a token19:25
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simogyee: please add a very clear explanation of the use case, it will make your life much easier19:25
simoeven better if you have a diagram19:25
gyeesimo, good suggestion19:26
gyeewe'll put up a diagram and explain the benefits19:26
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ayoungbknudson, are you OK with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/30999/3 ?19:26
ayounggyee, there is a mandate for Apache.  Eventlet is old and busted.  Apache is new hotness19:27
bknudsonayoung: I'll take a closer look... just noticed there was an email about this on the openstack-dev ml19:27
bknudsonApache is new!19:27
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bknudsonnginx is new!19:27
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topolwe should nudge folks towards Apache19:28
gyee:)19:28
simogyee: see my last point, I think that is critical19:28
gyeeayoung, I must've missed the apache hotness memo19:28
simogyee: you do not want just any random servr to be able to attempt brute force attacks19:29
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gyeesimo, I totally agreed, client authorization is critical19:29
ayounggyee, http://adam.younglogic.com/2012/03/keystone-should-move-to-apache-httpd/19:29
simothen it needs to be part of the scheme from the get go19:29
gyeesimo, no argument here19:30
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simoayoung: I would be content with a "threaded wsgi implementation"19:30
simonot 'fake thread, messed up, implementation :)19:30
bknudsonwe should move away from python and it's messed up global lock19:30
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simobknudson: they are supposedly fixing that global lock thing19:31
gyeebknudson, now you're stretching it :_19:31
gyee:)19:31
ayoungbknudson, Since we are dreaming, I want a Pony19:31
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simoI want a Pony-Unicorn19:31
simowith rainbows19:31
gyeeyou guys live in Washington or something, whatever you are smoking, I want some of that19:32
ayoungsimo, they tend to turn on you:  http://drmcninja.com/comics/2013-05-29-26p4.jpg19:32
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simogyee: I'll let you smoke and drown my desperation in some cheap whiskey19:35
ayoungsimo, life is too short for cheap whiskey.19:35
ayounggyee, are you cool with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/31249/19:36
simoayoung: I'll accpet good whiskey or good Rum too :-)19:36
ayounggyee, also, are you cool with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/30181/19:38
gyeeayoung, looking ...19:38
ayounggyee, you had asked if the split of the auth module should become a plugin...and I agree it should, but not in this patch19:38
ayoungwe need to complete the split before we can do that19:39
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gyeeayoung, sure, I am OK with doing it later, not critical19:41
gyeeI just want to make sure we get there eventually19:41
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lbragstad1dims: quick question for you (or any other oslo-incubator members). There is a change that recently made it into oslo-incubator that I would like to sync with nova. Mainly just the rpc module https://review.openstack.org/#/c/28711/ . I ran the update.py script in oslo to pull the changes into nova, but the tests didn't come with.. I am curious as to what the best way to go about incorporating those would be.19:41
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ayoungtopol, the documentation for the constraints list is in the preceeding patch19:42
lbragstad1bnemec: ^19:42
ayounghttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/31249/6/keystone/common/sql/migration_helpers.py19:42
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ayoungtopol, line 3419:42
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ayoungtopol, in the function that calls it19:43
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lifelesshmm, whereis jaypipes when you need him19:45
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topolayoung, I'll take a  look. thanks19:59
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topolayoung, makes a lot more sense now :-)20:06
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dimslbragstad1, i don't think we sync the tests across with update.py (as far as i know)20:11
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lbragstad1dims: thanks, I didn't think we did but I just wanted to check20:17
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lbragstad1dims: so just syncing the rpc module, even though the only thing that I am syncing from the patch is qpid fixes is it proper to push all the changes that oslo pulled in for the RPC module20:17
lbragstad1ex. changes to nova/openstack/common/rpc/service.py and nova/openstack/common/rpc/serializer.py?20:18
lbragstad1and sync the module as a whole?20:18
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dimslbragstad1, yep.20:43
lbragstad1dims: ok cool, thanks!20:44
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markmcmordred, so, is there a new pbr release coming for some quantumclient thing?21:00
mordredmarkmc: yes. I need to stop being in meetings so I can hack on it21:00
markmcmordred, ok21:00
markmcmordred, do you do a changelog with releases?21:01
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markmcmordred, (just a thought)21:01
mordredpbr generates one for me!21:01
markmcah, I mean summary of interesting stuff21:01
mordredoh. nope. I have not done one of those so far21:01
mordredbut it's not a terrible idea21:01
markmcmordred, e.g. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/30328/21:02
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markmcterriyu, welcome :)21:09
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markmcterriyu, annegentle just introduced you on #openstack-meeting :)21:09
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sandywalshmarkmc, curious what the plan for updating to oslo-config 1.2 is? (I was hoping to use DictOpt :/ )21:11
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/nova: Call scheduler for run_instance from conductor  https://review.openstack.org/2909121:13
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markmcsandywalsh, yeah, that's why I asked about the pbr release21:14
dolphmayoung: http://blogs.gnome.org/markmc/2013/06/04/async-io-and-python/21:14
markmcsandywalsh, we need https://review.openstack.org/#/c/30938/21:14
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sandywalshmarkmc, <looking>21:15
markmcsandywalsh, see #openstack-meeting21:16
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sandywalshmarkmc, will do ... I'll work around for now. Nice to see it's in the works though. Thanks.21:17
markmcsandywalsh, np21:17
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mordredmarkmc: GAH21:20
mordredmarkmc: found it21:20
mordredmarkmc: and yes, it turns out that setuptools sucks21:20
mordredmarkmc: it's going to take me probably several hours to deal with this21:21
markmcmordred, superb21:21
markmcmordred, got a pointer? I might look, but probably won't :)21:21
mordredmarkmc: it's an interaction with our defauting single-version-externally-managed to on21:21
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mordredmarkmc: which causes install_requires to be ignored21:22
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mordredmarkmc: it's one of those areas of distutils that's really better if you don't look21:22
markmcmordred, ick21:23
bknudsondolphm: you've got a lot of reviews that are approved but didn't merge...21:23
dolphmbknudson: i was just wondering about that21:23
bknudsondolphm: I've got a patch out there that would conflict with one of those.21:24
dolphmbknudson: the gate queue is stupid long21:24
terriyumarkmc: oops, I didn't know I was being introduced today!21:24
bknudsonso it would be nice to get those in.21:24
dolphmbknudson: checkout my review, rebase your patch on top of it, and git-review again21:24
dolphmbknudson: as long as you don't rebase *my* patch automatically with git-review (and change it's commit hash), you won't affect mine21:24
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bknudsondolphm: I messed up a bunch of my own patches doing the same thing!!21:25
dolphmbknudson: probably safer to `git push gerrit` than `git review`21:25
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dolphmbknudson: then don't listen to me :P21:25
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mordreddolphm: actually, with recent versions of git review21:25
dolphmmordred: yes?21:25
mordreddolphm: you can turn off auto-rebasing21:25
bknudsondolphm: it was my own fault.. not sure what the best way to handle.21:25
dolphmmordred: ooh, thanks21:26
dolphmbknudson: so use git-review -R/--no-rebase21:26
bknudsonmordred: this is the case where it asks "are you sure you want to do this"? because you've got multiple commits to push21:26
mordreddolphm: gireview.rebase = false21:26
mordredbknudson: right. it's always goign to do that21:26
bknudsonthen you push up the incorrect version of patch 2 of 3.21:27
dolphmbknudson: incorrect version?21:27
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bknudsonwould no-rebase help.21:27
dolphmbknudson: no-rebase would prevent you from changing commit 1 accidentally21:27
dolphmbknudson: but still allow you to create a review dependency in gerrit21:27
bknudsondolphm: I'll try it.21:28
bknudsonsounds safer.21:28
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bknudsondolphm: On this review: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/29669/21:28
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bknudsondolphm: "somehow" I pushed up patch set 5 which wiped out the intended changes in patch set 4.21:29
bknudsondolphm: probably when I checked out https://review.openstack.org/#/c/29670/ to make a change to it.21:29
dolphmbknudson: maybe by checking out an outdated version of a dependent review and pushing that back up?21:30
bknudsondolphm: I think that's what happened. I need to be more careful.21:30
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dolphmbknudson: that's the "are you sure you want to upload all three of these?"21:31
bknudsondolphm: but it's going to ask that even if the other 2 are up to date. So I have to somehow make sure the other one is up to date myself.21:31
dolphmbknudson: yeah (mordred- it'd be nice if it compared commit hashes to previous patchsets when asking that question)21:33
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dolphmmordred: and raised a bigger red flag, e.g. <-- OUTDATED PATCHSET21:33
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e_steveWhen I launch a qcow2 on openstack grizzly, the console.log is empty after the instance has launched21:36
e_steveif i upload as an ami with kernel+ramdisk, the console.log appears21:36
e_steveideas?21:36
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mordreddolphm: hrm. interesting idea. fungi ^^21:42
fungimordred: dolphm: if that's the feature i'm thinking of, the issue is that it adds more round-trips to gerrit to determine what's already there21:43
fungimordred: dolphm: i don't think it's a bad idea but would need to be optional so poor saps on the opposite side of the globe could just fire and forget and have slightly less waiting21:43
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dolphmfungi: how often do people work with sequences of patches, though?21:44
* mordred works with then frequently21:45
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mordredthem21:45
dolphmi do as well, but i'm wondering about the overall number of changes going through git-review21:45
bknudsonhow about it only pushes the last one as new?21:45
bknudsonI don't even know how I'd work with the other commits?21:45
fungii suppose that could auto-engage when there are additional patches and have an option to disable it. mordred works with stacks of patches while on airline wireless too21:45
mordredbknudson: you learn many things about rebase -i and the edit flag21:45
bknudsonrebase -i probably21:45
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mordredbknudson: I frequently work with stacks of patches and edit and rebase ones further down the stack21:46
mordredlike, almost every day21:46
mordredof course21:46
mordredI'm CRAZY21:46
bknudsonyou are like a jedi knight21:46
mordredso ignore me21:46
dolphmmordred: i imagine we're in the minority; i also imagine your stacks are bigger than mine21:46
fungiyeah, rebase -i and switch to a earlier patch, change stuff around, then wind the rebase forward again21:46
mordredI like re-ordering patches too. just for fun21:46
mordreddolphm: I want to make a tracts of land joke...21:47
fungimordred: you have a twisted definition for that word21:47
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bknudsonmaybe my problem is I re-check out the changes from gerrit rather than keeping on working with what's on my system.21:50
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vishy@markmcclain do the .ini files in quantum just override parameters from quantum.conf?22:05
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vishyi notice that in devstack they all have a bunch of the same values22:06
vishyarosen: ^^ any idea?22:06
markmcclainvishy: yeah they override22:06
vishymarkmcclain: so i can omit the values that I've already stuck in quantum.conf?22:06
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markmcclainyes22:06
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vishycool thx22:07
markmcclainyou're welcome22:07
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vishymarkmcclain: one more question. I notice the metadata api has a setting for authRegion but the others do not22:08
vishysorry the metadata_agent.ini22:08
vishyi assume that is just an oversight?22:08
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arosenvishy:  it's actually used to figure out which nova-api endpoint to use though it seems to only support one i think.22:09
markmcclainvishy: it's an oversight22:10
arosenit finds the match from keystone endpoint-list22:10
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/keystone: Ignore conflict on v2 auto role assignment (bug 1161963)  https://review.openstack.org/3155922:12
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1161963 in keystone "Editing User fails when the user already has a Primary Project" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/116196322:12
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/horizon: Adds methods for [] & len into LazyURLPattern  https://review.openstack.org/3045722:12
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vishy@markmcclain also devstack sets keystone config options for authtoken and the ini files have another set of configs in the ini files in [DEFAULT] which seems odd22:16
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markmcclainvishy: sorry was afk22:35
markmcclainpart of that is historical when they agents used separate files22:35
markmcclainI'll file a bug to consolidate22:36
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vishywe have a lot of copies of the same data for keystone spread around22:38
vishyconfig files22:38
vishy@markmcclain we should probably have a common config option place for keystone data22:38
vishythere is also keystone uri vs url (url seems to include the v2.0 whereas uri does not22:39
vishyall around kinda messy :)22:39
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markmcclainyeah22:41
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vishy@arosen any idea why the quantum.conf in devstack doesn't have a [DATABASE] section?22:59
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arosenvishy:  I believe the idea of that is because in theory a plugin might not have a database and could offload that to some external backend.23:00
vishyarosen: gotcha23:01
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/horizon: When launching instances, clarifies quota text to "X of Y Used"  https://review.openstack.org/3109423:05
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/horizon: Add RAM/disk requirements to image details  https://review.openstack.org/3162223:12
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/horizon: Add edit buttons for vip, member and monitor  https://review.openstack.org/3149723:12
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/horizon: Make 'Creating volume' message translatable  https://review.openstack.org/3160623:12
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/nova: IPMI driver sets bootdev option persistently.  https://review.openstack.org/3037823:12
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