Thursday, 2013-04-11

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jeblairshardy_afk: I added steve baker to the heat-ptl group in gerrit so that he can make a release of heat-cfntools.00:21
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack-infra/devstack-gate: Update devstack-gate grenade branches for G/H.  https://review.openstack.org/2663200:23
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/nova: Optimize some of compute/manager's periodic tasks' DB queries  https://review.openstack.org/2642000:24
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/tempest: Adds create volume from image test  https://review.openstack.org/2622000:24
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zzshi there, can I use the baremetal to deploy the EXSi to the physic host?00:25
zzsI had succeed to deploy the Ubuntu to the physic host00:26
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zzsbut I am not sure has anyone tried the ESXi00:30
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/tempest: Re-enable detach volume from unrescued VM  https://review.openstack.org/2616601:06
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bentremRight channel for StackTach/Stacky / monitoring?02:30
clarkbno, this channel focuses on openstack development02:31
bentremThanks. I thought I'd start here.02:31
bentremSo those aren't related projects?02:32
bentremI assumed that "monitoring" would fit here.02:32
clarkbI think they are related but stachtach isn't a core project02:32
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bentremRight. Let my take a step back ... let's say Ganglia ... does anyone here work on that? or something related to that?02:33
* bentrem is new to OStack ... different nomenclature in different commnities.02:34
bentremhttps://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/PerformanceMonitoring is what I'm playing off.02:34
clarkbits possible that fokls here work on ganglia, I don't so am not sure if others here do02:36
bentremOk, that you recognize the name shows me I'm close. Thanks. (No replies from @OpenStack, and the community page on GPlus has like 23 members and is silent.) cheers02:36
clarkbthere is ask.openstack.org if you have specific questions02:37
bentremheehee sync ... had just found it, logged in, and after that turned back to IRC. ^502:38
bentremLooks like user support. I think this is more right.02:38
bentremAm scanning https://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_name=ganglia-developers now.02:39
bentrem.02:39
bentremNothing in Ask aboug ganglia. HeyHo.02:41
bentrem.02:41
bentremclarkb: 66 questions in ask ... looks to me that's just new.02:43
clarkbit is new02:43
bentremLooks nice. I'm partial to @ZenDesk ... https://askbot.com/ is new to me.02:44
bentremOh now this is nice (@FirePad is getting buzz right now) https://etherpad.openstack.org/02:47
bentrem.02:47
bentremAh, @SDague posted that to Twitter.02:47
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bentremFYI OpenStack Community page on GPlus: https://plus.google.com/u/0/communities/10829939377801579195802:52
bentrem.02:52
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bentremWell ... that was a succesful com-check. Results were negative ... but that's valid result for a check.03:10
bentrem"Social" media ... heh.03:10
bentrem.03:10
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Samos123- which type of tokens are in use, UUID or PKI?  how to check this?03:36
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rezax<Samos123> in keystone.config03:59
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jamielennoxmy review just failed with some weird errors: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/26436/04:24
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jamielennoxglance: error: argument --os-auth-token: expected one argument04:25
jamielennoxquantum router-interface-add: error: too few arguments04:25
rezax<jamielennox> i have this too04:26
jamielennoxrezax: well in a way that's good, it's not just me04:27
jamielennoxdo you know if there's anything we can do about it or if it's been seen before?04:27
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rezax<jamielennox> i try to workaround now, you can try: export SERVICE_TOKEN=admin ./stack.sh04:29
jamielennoxah,04:29
clarkbjamielennox: http://status.openstack.org/rechecks/ is supposed to track these things (when you recheck to rerun tests the provided bug number is tracked on that page). I do not see anything related to this particular error there04:29
jamielennoxmine came from jenkins no idea how to modify how it is run04:30
jamielennoxor desire to modify how reviews are run04:30
jamielennoxclarkb: don't you love discovering something new :p04:31
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rezax<jamielennox> it too strange, along time ago it happens when wget handle buggy utf-8 id's04:31
clarkbfwiw it doesn't appear to be affecting all changes https://jenkins.openstack.org/job/gate-tempest-devstack-vm-postgres-full/12009/console04:31
clarkbjamielennox: are you sure your change isn't causing the behavior? looking in devstack's git log os-auth-token errors are related to openssl04:32
jamielennoxpretty sure, but i'll go do further checking. It really shouldn't be in that path at all, but that doesn't mean it isnt04:33
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clarkbjamielennox: http://paste.openstack.org/show/35778/ from devstack's git log04:34
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jamielennoxbut this is the 4th patch set though and they have all been with openssl, does this mean that one of the jenkins slaves doesn't have openssl?04:35
clarkbdevstack should install it if it isnt already there04:36
clarkbthat is what the commit is doing I think04:36
clarkbI just noticed that the error appears to be related to ssl04:37
rezaxclarkb, aha04:37
jamielennoxdamn04:37
jamielennoxit is mine04:37
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clarkbjamielennox: is it related to the config change?04:38
jamielennoxyes, it just showed the error quite a lot earlier up the run04:38
rezax<jamielennox> i showed this error after first install averywhere04:42
rezaxopenssl installed04:42
jamielennoxyea, in my case it wasn't that openssl wasn't installed, but the setup that calls openssl fails and so has the same result04:43
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rezax<jamielennox> damn, may be we can turn-off this04:44
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/cinder: Clean up attach/detach tests.  https://review.openstack.org/2635904:45
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/cinder: Add service list functionality cinder-manage  https://review.openstack.org/2620804:46
rezaxjamielennox, i guess $KEYSTONE_TOKEN_FORMAT" == "PKI" in keystone colud be set on UUID, and no need openssl04:48
jamielennoxit could, but i've never had this problem using openssl except for this one issue which i caused04:49
clarkbin jamielennox's case we want to be testing this specifically in order to catch what was caught04:49
clarkbthis is intentionally04:49
jamielennoxdo you have a log?04:49
clarkbs/intentionally/intentional/04:49
jamielennoxclarkb: oh absolutely, I read that a number of times and never caught it and it wasn't handled by the test framework as it was being stubbed04:50
rezaxjamielennox> log with UUID install?04:50
jamielennoxusing openssl04:50
jamielennoxcausing that error04:50
rezax<jamielennox> yes04:50
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rezaxone moment04:50
rezaxjamielennox, http://apikabu.ru/img_n/2013-04_3/tb7.png04:52
jamielennoxrezax: c&p all of it to http://paste.openstack.org/04:53
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rezax<jamielennox> ok, where it stores?04:54
jamielennoxall the output from devstack04:54
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/cinder: fix default config option types  https://review.openstack.org/2660204:55
rezaxjamielennox, ok, one moment04:56
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rezaxtry to find any logs...05:05
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jamielennoxwhen you run devstack and if fails, do ./stack.sh | tee log.txt then post the contents of log.txt05:07
rezax<jamielennox> do it in begin ir after ./stack.sh?05:09
rezaxs/ir/or/05:09
rezaxafter run*05:09
jamielennoxthe whole thing in one go, that's one command05:09
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jamielennoxsorry didn't realize the output was on err05:14
jamielennoxrun05:14
jamielennox./stack.sh 2>&1 | tee log.txt05:14
rezaxok05:15
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/nova: Don't join metadata twice in instance_get_all()  https://review.openstack.org/2669405:26
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/nova: Imported Translations from Transifex  https://review.openstack.org/2669005:27
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/nova: Fix issues with check_instance_shared_storage.  https://review.openstack.org/2662205:29
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rezaxjamielennox, finished http://paste.openstack.org/show/35779/05:33
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jamielennoxrezax: on line 3963 you have: unable to write 'random state'05:39
jamielennoxhttp://adamyoung.net/OpenSSL-unable-to-write-random-state05:39
jamielennoxor here: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/94445/using-openssl-what-does-unable-to-write-random-state-mean05:40
rezax<jamielennox> he-he, now i try change permissions for .rnd05:41
jamielennoxor just delete it openssl will create a new one if it doesn't find it05:42
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rezaxi delete it, now try to rerun ./stack.sh with succes05:45
rezaxs05:45
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rezaxjamielennox, i delete .rnd, no luck, same error05:55
jamielennoxis there a .rnd file in /etc/keystone/ssl/certs?05:57
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rezaxjamielennox, no one05:58
rezaxonly *.txt, openssl.conf, serial, *.pem05:59
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jamielennoxdo you have a $HOME set?06:00
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rezaxjamielennox, $HOME=/home/nonroot06:01
rezaxtoo clear06:02
jamielennoxon what os/06:02
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rezaxubuntu 12.10 quasal06:03
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rezaxs/quasal/quantal/06:03
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jamielennoxcan you run openssl rand 6406:03
rezaxjamielennox, http://apikabu.ru/img_n/2013-04_3/m6d.png06:07
jamielennoxthats ok, garbage is to be expected, i just wanted to know it ran06:08
rezaxit run, i think glance: error: argument --os-auth-token: expected one argument - is no openssl error06:09
rezaxnow i try change default KEYSTONE_TOKEN_FORMAT from pki to UUID06:10
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jamielennoxrezax: new idea,06:20
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jamielennoxshould be better06:20
rezax<jamielennox> ?)06:20
jamielennoxline 696706:20
jamielennoxi don't know what would be causing it but it looks like keystone can't connect to the database and so the token is never gotten06:20
jamielennoxwhich is why it is never given to glance06:21
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/ceilometer: pipeline, publisher, transformer: reorganize code  https://review.openstack.org/2623806:21
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/ceilometer: transformer, publisher: move down base plugin classes  https://review.openstack.org/2646906:22
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rezax<jamielennox> yea, a got it when create users with GRANT ALL ON keystone.* TO 'keystoneUser'@'%' IDENTIFIED BY 'keystonePass'; trouble with - %, when i change it on localhost all is works, but devstak uses %06:22
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jamielennoxcould be related to all the  unable to resolve host ubuntu-openstack-node-106:26
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rezaxjamielennox, today i try rewrite devstack for my use, too many strange things06:27
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rezaxjamielennox, and no really need to resolve domains for install openstack06:30
jamielennoxrezax: i'm not sure what that is from06:31
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rezaxno luck with UUID, seems we don't know what that is from - maybe nobody jnows06:33
rezaxknows06:33
rezaxand have too very strange thing in /etc/keystone/keystone.conf while run devstack, mysql://root:123456@localhost/keystone?charset=utf8 - localhost dont work if mysql table consists 'user'@'%' pole06:35
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rezaxjamielennox, tomorrow i try to end my script, if it interesting to look for you im paste it after success install06:36
jamielennoxit won't06:36
jamielennoxi saw a thing about that06:36
jamielennox% only works for tcp connections or something, this will be a socket connection so permissions are different06:36
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jamielennoxhttp://stackoverflow.com/questions/10823854/using-for-host-when-creating-a-mysql-user06:37
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rezaxreand i don't see as devstack create services in mysql, it don't do it06:38
rezaxno glance, no keystone, no cinder users in mysql06:39
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rezaxjamielennox, see issue about % in stackoverflow, but it not work for me тумук06:41
rezaxnever06:41
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rezaxusing % as the host does not include 'localhost' (c) stackoverflow06:45
rezaxdamn wildcard06:46
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flask11Hello! Is someone familiar with oz?11:24
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/nova: Remove "undefined name" pyflake errors  https://review.openstack.org/2665612:14
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flask11Hello! Is someone familiar with oz?12:22
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apevecmikal, ttx - please check if I captured correctly relnote requested in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/25665/ https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ReleaseNotes/2012.2.4#Upgrade_Notes13:44
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ttxapevec: hmm, actually for Folsom that quota did not exist13:47
ttxlet me rewrite that with my understanding13:47
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apevecttx, ah it was introduced post 2.313:50
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ttxapevec: modified, could use russellb's +113:50
ttxre-fixed13:51
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apevecttx, thanks, looks good13:52
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russellbttx: apevec: looks good ... it can also be updated via the API, though13:58
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apevecrussellb, in Folsom too?13:59
russellbum.13:59
russellbthink so13:59
russellbwould have to go back and look at the patch .. don't hold me to that13:59
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bknudsonin nova, it's pretty common to elevate the context for a DB call, is there any reason to NOT elevate? could it cause a security problem?14:32
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bknudsonfor example, compute_node_get_all requires admin context14:33
bknudsonand it's called from nova/api/openstack/compute/contrib/hypervisors index function, which doesn't elevate.14:34
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bknudsonso hypervisors index is now admin only14:34
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apevecttx, as markmc predicted, it's bad day for gate: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/26749/14:42
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apevecany ideas what's going on?14:43
annegentlettx: around?14:43
ttxannegentle: yes14:43
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annegentlettx: just read your blog post "The Need for Releases" and wanted to chat a bit14:44
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ttxannegentle: sure go ahead14:44
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annegentlettx: I dont' remember a conversation around docs being the blocker for 3 month releases?14:44
annegentlettx: (if 3 months was the other proposed schedule)14:44
ttxhmm, right, it was when we talked about monthly14:44
ttxdid I say 3 months ?14:45
annegentlettx: I've been in agile enviroments where docs had to be ready every 2 weeks but they weren't very useful docs :)14:45
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annegentlettx: no really just trying to understand more context14:45
annegentlettx: I don't remember monthly ever being discussed with docs14:45
ttxannegentle: maybe I should say "dramatically shortening"14:45
annegentlettx: it's more of an academic research question for me than an actual concern :)14:45
ttxannegentle: trying to remember which design summit that was14:46
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack-dev/grenade: change cannonical url in documentation to openstack-dev  https://review.openstack.org/2673114:46
annegentlettx: I jumped to 3 months since I was around when we did 3 month releases14:46
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annegentlettx: fascinating. Do tell. I hope you can recall.14:46
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack-dev/grenade: set cannonical upstream url to openstack-dev  https://review.openstack.org/2673214:46
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ttxit was after we moved to 6 months, we considered doing formal "releases" with the same rhythm as the current milestones (every 6 weeks)14:47
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annegentlettx: ah yes, I do recall that. There was no way for docs to meet milestone releases with the resources/helpers/etc.14:47
ttxannegentle: and in that session there were a number of objections, the most vocal definitely being related to docs14:47
annegentlettx: but yeah it would be interesting to visit. We are having a discussion on restructuring docs anyway. https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Blueprint-restructure-documentation14:48
annegentlettx: but our restructuring is more about serving users than serving dev cycles14:48
ttxannegentle: anyway, my goal was not to single out Docs as being a blocker to change... more to say that Docs is one of those areas that benefit from periodicity rather than continuity14:49
ttxdue to the need to produce a polished a complete set14:50
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annegentlettx: yeah docs never wants to be a blocker, but definitely users and docs benefit from releases14:50
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ttxapevec: looking14:54
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ttxapevec: let's bring that to #openstack-infra14:56
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eglynnmarkwash: can you take another peek at https://review.openstack.org/24988 ?15:54
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ausxxhfor lxc container qemu-nbd is used to 'mount' the image, can I use something else?15:54
ausxxhdo I have to use qemu-nbd with lxc?15:54
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markwasheglynn: sure, +215:55
eglynnmarkwash: thank you sir!15:55
markwasheglynn: for the record, I've since been told I was wrong about the copyright header15:55
markwashpredicated on the fact that redhat is a corporate member of openstack15:55
markwashthat has signed contributor agreements or somesuch15:55
markwashI wish we could just have one repo-level copyright statement15:56
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/ceilometer: Extend swift middleware to collect number of requests.  https://review.openstack.org/2662915:58
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/python-novaclient: Make --vlan option work in network-create in VLAN mode  https://review.openstack.org/2672616:00
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annegentledprince: around?16:07
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dprinceannegentle: hi16:13
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annegentledprince: hey. Do you have a minute to look over os-services API doc at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/26517/16:13
annegentledprince: we're in a doc bug fix frenzy!16:13
dprinceannegentle: yep. sure thing.16:13
annegentledprince: thanks16:13
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/glance: Add placeholder migrations to allow backports  https://review.openstack.org/2498816:35
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harlowjarussellb: yt17:10
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arosengaryk: ping17:36
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jclifteharney: Might be a false alarm.  Looks to just be a problem with the cinder scheduler not picking up the backend change unless it's restarted as well.17:51
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jclifteharney: Previous run, with the error, only had openstack-cinder-volume get restarted.17:53
jclifteharney: Testing now with debugging and verbosity enabled (so restarted all cinder services), and it's working fine.17:54
* jclift will test a bit more, just to make sure17:54
eharneyjclift: ok sounds good17:58
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reedrussellb, I'm considering copying this text https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/TroubleshootingNova#common_errors over to Ask OpenStack. Thoughts?17:59
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/horizon: Fix floating IP management from instance panel.  https://review.openstack.org/2648418:02
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russellbreed: or maybe just link to it to avoid duplicating content18:03
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reedrussellb, I'd deprecate the content on the wiki, link the nova faq in Ask from wiki18:03
reedso the content is 'live'18:04
reedi mean, lively, it changes more easily18:04
russellbsure ...18:04
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reedok, will work on it18:04
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jclifteharney: Yeah, seems fine.18:11
* jclift just learned that much more about cinder ;D18:11
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ausxxhi need modify cinder's lvcreate to append -Z n (avoid zeroing) to get cinder working18:22
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ausxxhhow can I do that? change cinder's rootwarp filters?18:22
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ausxxhvolume.filters18:23
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reedrussellb, added a link to this page https://ask.openstack.org/questions/scope:all/sort:activity-desc/tags:nova,faq/page:1/18:25
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/swift: fix email address  https://review.openstack.org/2676818:26
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termieayoung: do you ever write short emails?18:27
ayoungtermie, no18:27
ayoungthat is what IRC is for18:27
ayoung:)18:27
termieayoung: any email that long has a 2+ day turnaround for me18:27
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termieayoung: before i build up the will to try to read it18:28
ayounghttp://www.theonion.com/articles/nation-shudders-at-large-block-of-uninterrupted-te,16932/18:28
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sc68calhahaha so true18:28
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ayoungtermie, right now I am ready to chew through nails.  I am trying to get more debugging info out of a Fedora Nova install beyond "Malformed URL"  and it refuses to bend to my will18:30
termieayoung: cool, maybe that will keep you from sending any more epics to my inbox18:31
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ayoungrussellb, any idea why a default Fedora Nova API install is logging to /var/log/messages?18:36
russellbwhat do you mean, what log level?18:36
russellbdebug=False verbose=False i suspect ...18:36
russellbthat'd be the sane thing to do :)18:36
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apevecayoung, I guess systemd redirects stderr/out there18:40
ayoungapevec, ah...systemd18:41
ayoungapevec, so I can blame Lennard18:41
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apevecayoung, always18:41
ttxmarkwash: don't forget to schedule and push to sched your last sessions !18:41
ayoungapevec, we need to do a scrub of the "Getting started on Fedora" page18:41
markwashah, ttx, thanks!18:41
ttxmarkwash: np18:42
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apevecayoung, is that on Fedora wiki which is still for Essex?18:43
ayoungapevec, I think Folsom18:45
ayounghere18:45
ayounghttps://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Getting_started_with_OpenStack_on_Fedora_1718:45
ayoungapevec, I started by cloning here18:45
ayounghttps://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Getting_started_with_OpenStack_on_Fedora18:45
ayoungVersion     : 2012.1.318:46
apevecayoung, ok, make sure you link it from https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/OpenStack18:46
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ayoungapevec, yeah, once I have something workable....18:46
apevecayoung, yeah 2012.1.3 is Essex18:47
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apevecf17=essex f18=folsom f19=grizzly18:47
ayoungapevec, so I am wondering if the right approach starts with "install puppet"18:47
ayoungI realize we are pushing packstack, but that doesn't solve the "I have a working keystone on one server, now let me install nova over here"18:48
ayoungkind of hids the details18:48
ayounghides18:48
apevecyeah, manual instructions would be good, but worst part (and most error prone) is keystone bootstrap18:49
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ayoungapevec...well, IO think I can help out there18:50
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ayoungapevec, I have a Keystone talking to LDAP install, which will be one of the first things I'll write up after the summit18:50
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ayoungapevec, ImportError: No module named auth_token18:54
ayoung2013-04-11 18:51:05.032 28499 TRACE nova18:54
ayoung/etc/nova/api-paste.ini:paste.filter_factory = keystoneclient.middleware.auth_token:filter_factory18:54
ayoungand keystoneclient rpm is installed....18:55
ayoungpython-keystoneclient-0.2.0-1.fc18.noarch18:55
apevecayoung, which version? looks like Folsom18:55
apevecyeah, that's f18=folsom18:56
apevecayoung, if you're trying grizzly on f18 you need siderepo enabled18:56
ayoungapevec, interesting.  Let me see what my keystone machine has18:56
apevechttp://repos.fedorapeople.org/repos/openstack/openstack-grizzly/fedora-openstack-grizzly.repo18:56
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/nova: baremetal: Change node api related to prov_mac_address  https://review.openstack.org/2607818:56
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ayoungopenstack-keystone-2013.1-0.10.rc3.fc19.noarch18:57
ayoungmust have done a release version or something18:57
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ayoungapevec, hmm...I have that18:58
apevecayoung, yeah, I've pushed release build to siderepo18:58
apevecayoung, http://repos.fedorapeople.org/repos/openstack/openstack-grizzly/fedora-18/18:59
apevecayoung, maybe stale yum cache?18:59
sandywalshjaypipes, hey! Trying to get the AND clauses in the join ... I'm very close, but lines 5 & 6 are causing grief http://paste.openstack.org/show/35839/ ... my sqlalchemy foo is weak18:59
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ayoungapevec, yep19:00
jaypipessandywalsh: looking...19:01
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ayoungapevec, thanks....been beating on this for a while....too proud to ask for help.  I am now appropriately humbled.19:01
jaypipessandywalsh: oh...you can put the AND clauses in the WHERE. They aren't required to be in the JOIN clause...19:01
jaypipessandywalsh: so just move these:19:02
jaypipesschema.Trait.key_id == 10,19:02
jaypipes182                               schema.Trait.t_string == 'ins-301fbb11-2669-4be2-8f36-d7dc',19:02
jaypipesinto the filter()19:02
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jgriffithsdague: can you update the commit message on 2677019:04
jgriffithsdague: referene the original commit Change-Id: Ic4bfa1aee3a4b6a7588be3678ac033a1b13e2b1819:04
sandywalshjaypipes, ah, I went that way at first, but thought the semantics were different (or is that only for a left join?)19:05
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garykarosen: hi. you around19:09
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ayoungapevec, Victory!  Thanks.  nova flavor-list now returns values....19:10
sdaguejgriffith: sure thing19:13
jgriffithsdague: there's also some question if it needs to go back to stable19:13
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jgriffitheharney: brought that up and I think it's valid19:13
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/cinder: Fix incompatible Storwize/SVC commands.  https://review.openstack.org/2658719:14
jgriffithalthough I'm thrilled to see the enthusiasm this morning with folks proposing backports :)19:16
sdaguejgriffith: sure, but it is a no risk change, and it will make 2013.1.1 not have a gpl script in it, so it seemed worth proposing19:16
jgriffithsdague: I'm fine with it given where we are in the cycle and it's zero risk as you point out19:17
jgriffithsdague: might also be worth putting that in the commit message as well to justify19:17
sdaguesure19:17
eharneythat probably does make sense if it's explained in the msg19:18
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sdaguejgriffith: how about that commit message - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/26770/19:20
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jgriffithsdague: perfect.. thanks19:20
jgriffitheharney: if no objections I'll +2/A19:20
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jgriffithgoing once...19:22
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eharneyi don't have any19:23
jgriffithsold... :)19:23
jgriffiththanks guys19:23
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soleblazeHas anyone here worked with getting openstack to use another arch with qemu?  Such as starting arm images with qemu-system-arm instead of having everything start with kvm or qemu-system-x86_64?19:40
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jaypipessandywalsh: was that successful?19:46
sandywalshjaypipes, yep, worked like a charm ... had to switch a few column references to alias names, but it's great. thanks!19:46
jaypipesrock on :)19:47
sandywalshjaypipes, now I need to understand the nuances of what's going on there :)19:47
jaypipessandywalsh: DS session? :)19:48
sandywalshjaypipes, but your tip of thinking in terms of for-loops vs. sets is bang on. need to break that way of thinking.19:48
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sandywalshjaypipes, yes, DS session for sure.19:48
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sandywalshjaypipes, picked up a copy of Pro MySql too, started reading that.19:49
jaypipessandywalsh: lol :)19:49
sandywalsh(check is in the mail :)19:49
jaypipessandywalsh: could've just asked me to bring a copy ;)19:50
sandywalshheh19:50
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sandywalshjaypipes, why does the sub-select have to go in the join clause in the first place? What can't it just be part of the where clause?19:51
jaypipessandywalsh: short answer or long answer?19:52
sandywalshjaypipes, is it because the outer ON clause needs to reference the rawdata.id of the inner select?19:52
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/swift: Account Quota Correction  https://review.openstack.org/2662819:53
sandywalshjaypipes, and, if so, why wouldn't that work as a subselect on the where clause instead (where id in [select ...])19:53
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/tempest: Create tests for multiple server creation  https://review.openstack.org/2351119:53
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/tempest: make stack traces tool find individual traces  https://review.openstack.org/2499219:53
sandywalshjaypipes, methinks I need to review the two explain statements again19:54
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jaypipessandywalsh: so, when a subselect is in the where clause, sometimes MySQL doesn't realize if that subselect is a actually non-dependent. This often happens when you have a subselect inside a subselect, both in the where clause. By structuring things to put the subquery in the FROM clause (called a derived table), you essentially are tricking the MySQL optimizer to evaluate the derived table before any WHERE clause in t19:56
jaypipeshe outer select.19:56
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/cinder: new cinder.conf.sample and fix extract_opts.py  https://review.openstack.org/2672219:56
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/quantum: Implement LB plugin delete_pool_health_monitor().  https://review.openstack.org/2674219:56
sandywalshjaypipes, ah ha ... now I get it. So, theoretically the where clause should work, but the nuances of the optimizer don't let that happen19:57
jaypipessandywalsh: by tricking the optimizer to evaluate the subselect in the FROM clause first, you create a set of records that can then be used in the primary join in the outermost table. It doesn't actually have anything to do with outer (left or right) joins vs. inner joins.19:57
jaypipessandywalsh: correct.19:57
sandywalshbingo19:58
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jaypipessandywalsh: and as I mentioned yesterday, Michael Bayer isn't really interested in having SQLAlchemy "pre-optimize" a SQL expression for any particular database driver because that database driver's optimizer doesn't happen to be very smart ;)19:58
sandywalshjaypipes, ok, cool ... would that be an issue with something like postgres?19:58
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/nova: Remove multi scheduler.  https://review.openstack.org/2662519:59
jaypipessandywalsh: so it's up to the developer to write the SA ORM queries in a manner that the ORM -> SQL translater will produce more optimized SQL that will run well on any db driver.19:59
sandywalshjaypipes, in other words, is that an generic problem with most db's or particular to mysql19:59
sandywalshjaypipes, specifically I mean 2+ nested where's with sub-queries19:59
jaypipessandywalsh: postgresql's optimizer, when given both those queries, will likely reduce them both to the same query execution plan.19:59
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jaypipessandywalsh: particular to mysql.20:00
sandywalshhmm, interesting20:00
sandywalshtribal knowledge20:00
jaypipessandywalsh: but the SQL generated from the latter reworked ORM code will perform well on both enginers20:00
jaypipesengines20:00
jaypipessandywalsh: indeed.20:00
jaypipesvery tribal :)20:00
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sandywalshok ... cool ... I'll bug you more during the masters game :)20:01
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/python-novaclient: Support force update quota  https://review.openstack.org/2636520:43
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/python-novaclient: make sure .get() also updates _info  https://review.openstack.org/2667820:43
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salv-orlandomarkmcclain:  are you around?21:05
markmcclainyes21:05
salv-orlandowow, you're always around21:05
salv-orlandosometime I think you're a bot21:05
markmcclainhaha21:05
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/python-glanceclient: Fix problem running glance --version  https://review.openstack.org/2621921:06
salv-orlandoI recall you manifesting some interest in contributing to the "Quantum DB improvement" session21:06
salv-orlandoAs I'm preparing the agenda, I wanted to check with you if there was any argument in particular you wanted to cover21:06
markmcclainthis is the agenda from the proposal correct?21:07
salv-orlandoyes21:08
markmcclainok.. I'm good with what you have21:08
huatsI am wondering with who I can talk about a weird (I think) behaviour of the keystone python client ? according to the help of the user-role-list I can have things that I beleive are obtained by the command itself. And so I'd like to correct it... but I want to talk with someone about it first :)21:09
salv-orlandoi, I'll put a few slides together21:09
markmcclainsalv-orlando: cool21:09
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bknudsonls -l /usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/oslo/__init__.py23:06
bknudsonshould this file exist?23:06
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jamielennoxdoes anyone know if running sql migration tests for keystone should pass as is using mysql or postgres as the backend?23:08
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clarkbjamielennox: assuming jenkins tests both like it does with nova then yes23:10
clarkbotherwise I wouldn't expect them to23:10
clarkbbknudson: oslo is a namespace package. is the __init__.py necessary to make that magic happen?23:11
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clarkbbknudson: reading namespace packages today under http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0382/ implies that that is what oslo/__init__.py would be for23:14
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themadcanudisthey guys… any swift devs here? really quick question about where  self.app.logger.exception() sends the log message. it's not showing up in my proxy-server logs with loglevel debug on23:16
bknudsonclarkb: running pydev in eclipse, it doesn't find oslo or oslo.config . creating the __init__.py makes pydev work.23:16
jamielennoxclarkb: do you know where/if the jenkins configs for this are available?23:16
clarkbjamielennox: it would be in the tests themselves, not in jenkins23:17
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jamielennoxclarkb: ah, then probably they are not being run as it is a configuration option23:17
clarkbjamielennox: https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/tests/test_migrations.py is how nova does it23:18
jamielennoxayoung: do you know?23:18
clarkbjamielennox: the docstring in that file describes what is necessart to have nova's tests run23:19
clarkbthen on the slaves we have DBs with the requirements listed there so nova takes advantage of that23:19
rezaxjamielennox, do you fix the error with glance: error: argument --os-auth-token: expected one argument ?23:19
jamielennoxclarkb: keystone's are controlled by a config file: https://github.com/openstack/keystone/blob/master/tests/backend_sql.conf so its not going to be changed on a standard test run23:19
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clarkbjamielennox: keystone might want to adopt what nova does and make it opportunistic, or set the appropriate parameters in tox.ini to run with mysql and postgres23:21
clarkbhowever it is nice when everyone does it the same way23:21
bknudsonhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/23660/ - Adds port of test_migrations.py from Nova23:21
jamielennoxrezax: i thought you had that one, to do with permissions on the mysql db23:22
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rezax<jamielennox> he-he-he, i change % on localhost, no luck with automated install, need manual tuning23:22
rezax<jamielennox> when i create databases by-hand, all's works finely23:23
jamielennoxrezax: line 6977 it fails to connect to mysql db, 6698 sets TOKEN=   and so there is no env variable to pass to glance23:23
clarkbbknudson: should I restore that change?23:23
rezax<jamielennox> too many lines, i though)23:23
jamielennoxclarkb: i'm pretty sure there is a bug up for that or similar23:24
bknudsonclarkb: I liked the change. cores are busy planning for the summit, I guess.23:24
jamielennoxrezax: why the db setup fails though i've got no idea, i'm not running it on ubuntu but plenty of others are23:25
jamielennoxrezax: it _shouldn't_ matter but i'd fix the 'unable to resolve host ubuntu-openstack-node-1' as it's the most obvious oddity23:25
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rezax<jamielennox> i guess on gentoo it should works better)23:28
rezax<jamielennox> im no clue what fucking about devstack resolves local hostname, it's no needed really23:28
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evanpaging Anita Kuno23:29
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evanAnita Kuno, please meet your party at the room lobby.23:29
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anteayahi evan it is me23:29
anteayathanks for dropping by23:29
evanno prob23:29
anteayaI failed to read the entire conversation and it appears that rackspace has said that exactly what you want to do isn't possible yet23:30
evanyeah23:30
evanso when you make an image from an instance23:30
anteayabut in the meantime is there some other way to accomplish your goal?23:30
evanthe file thats there is a tar.gz23:30
anteayaor was that the entire goal23:30
evanthat contains a couple of .vhd files and a .ovf file23:30
evanthere is an image.vhd file which is clearly the bulk of the deal23:30
evanthe .ovf file is not an OVF file23:31
evanit is a file that contains the string "windows"23:31
evan*eyeroll*23:31
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anteayayes, I am with you on the eyeroll23:31
evanI don't have a kernel or ramdisk either23:31
evanI tried to just upload the tar.gz into glance23:31
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anteayawhat happens?23:31
evanand say it was a vhd disk and ovf container23:31
evan(this is before I realized the ovf was not OVF)23:32
anteayaah23:32
evanthe instance boots and just sits there23:32
evandoing nothing23:32
anteayanice23:32
anteayaas you say helpful23:32
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evanqemu is just hanging out, doing nothing.23:32
anteayahmmmm23:32
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evanI tried uploading just the .vhd file23:32
evanbooting an instance directly from it errors the instance out23:33
evanthough, when I did that, I didn't specify a container format23:33
evanand it took about 30 minutes to upload it into glance (it's 24G)23:33
anteayafun23:33
anteayayou have put some time into this23:33
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anteayatrying to see who is both away and not currently at a meal23:34
evanthe image isn't that important23:34
evanwould be nice23:34
anteayas/away/awake23:34
evanwill save me some work23:34
evanbut I can redo the image (was going to eventually anyway)23:34
anteayaI have not done what you are trying to do myself23:35
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evanI started to convert the vhd file into qcow2 via qemu-img23:36
anteayaso I am unfortunately not much help myself23:36
evanand got bored because after 10 minutes, it was 0.00% done.23:36
anteayayeah that would take a while23:36
anteayait is a popular dinner time right now23:36
evanyep23:36
anteayaI'm still knocking on doors23:36
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anteayathanks for your patience23:36
evanoh, no problem.23:37
evanif we got it working, great23:37
anteayathanks23:37
evanif not, c'est la vie.23:37
anteayastill nice to talk to someone23:37
anteayaso you aren't talking to a wall23:37
evanyep yep23:37
lifelesshey23:37
lifelesswhats up ?23:37
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anteayayay lifeless23:38
anteayathis is evan, evan lifeless23:38
evanDr. Lifeless, I presume.23:38
anteayaevan has taken an image of a running openstack, yes?23:38
anteayaand is trying to load that image into glance23:39
anteayaand is encountering some obstacles23:39
evanthe image in question is a weird franken blob coming out of Rackspace Cloud23:39
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lifelessok23:39
lifelessevan: I jsut skimmed backscroll23:39
evancool.23:39
lifelessevan: is it a partition image or full disk image - that is, does it have a partition table ?23:39
evanfdisk indicates that it doesn't have a partition table23:40
evanhexdump indicates it has a VPC header on it as well23:40
evan"conectix" are the first whatever number of bytes23:40
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lifelessevan: virtual pc ? So, thats non-raw, which means fdisk will lie to you unless you mount it - possibly qemu-nbd will support it23:41
evanok23:41
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lifelessa quick google suggests it will be a vhd file23:43
evanyeah23:43
evanbooting from it just errors the instance out cold23:43
lifelessevan: does 'qemu-img check -f vpc <filename>'  do anything interesting?23:43
evanqemu-img: This image format does not support checks23:44
evanso.. no.23:44
lifelessevan: ok,23:44
lifelessevan: try sudo qemu-nbd -c /dev/nbd0 <filename>23:44
lifelessthen sudo sfdisk -l /dev/nbd023:45
evanthats going to take me a sec23:45
lifelesssudo qemu-nbd -d /dev/nbd023:45
lifelesswill unmount it23:45
evanthe image in question isn't on a linux machine atm.23:45
evanlet's say it were to mount fine23:45
evanwhere we would I go from there?23:45
lifelessok, so the troubleshooting tree23:45
lifelessif it is a single partition image, we need to mount that and pull out the ramdisk and kernel and supply directly to the boot command23:46
lifelessif it is a disk image, we need to verify it has a MBR with an appropriate OS-specific boot loader, and then that the content appears correct23:47
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evangotcha23:48
evanso if it's a raw image23:48
evanthen qemu will just boot it from BIOS23:48
evanif not, then the kernel and ramdisk need to be extracted23:48
evanmakes sense23:48
lifelessright23:49
lifelessnow, if it is a raw image, you can still pull a kernel and ramdisk out to override booting via the MBR, but it is optional23:50
lifelessalso you need to make sure the architecture is compatible23:50
lifelessif it is a 64-bit image, it won't boot very well on a i386 host23:50
evanyep yep23:51
lifelessall that said, when I see a instance that hangs hard right at the start, its usually MBR23:52
lifelessonce you validate it all looks good, upload to glance and away you go23:52
evan10-423:52
evanthanks!23:52
evanwe're on Essex still23:52
evanwould that make a big difference?23:52
lifelessI have no idea :)23:52
evan:D23:53
lifelessI only started with openstack during the Grizzly cycle23:53
lifelesswhile I know cloud tech in general, I've no basis for commenting on behaviours in Essex.23:53
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evansure sure23:55
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/quantum: Ensure unit tests work with all interface types  https://review.openstack.org/2665923:56
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