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| markmc | lifeless, (just catching up) | 00:06 |
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| markmc | lifeless, imho, there's no need to be afraid of proposing as a new incubating project | 00:06 |
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| markmc | lifeless, i.e. if we fill the incubation process with so much bureaucracy that people try to merge projects into existing projects ... | 00:07 |
| markmc | lifeless, ... rather than apply for incubation, we're really screwing up | 00:08 |
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| notmyname | ttx: release notes upgraded. I'll push final versioning later this evening | 00:33 |
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| lifeless | mordred: lets wait for markwash's thoughts. | 00:44 |
| lifeless | can apply on tuesday or so if we decide to | 00:44 |
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| clarkb | I think as ttx is able to roll it out | 02:42 |
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| lifeless | mordred: you've dropped out of -nova :P | 03:40 |
| lifeless | mordred: btw +3427, -3205 <- *not reviewing this* | 03:40 |
| mordred | lifeless: thanks | 03:40 |
| mordred | lifeless: which patch? | 03:41 |
| mordred | oh - that's not nearly that many lines of change | 03:41 |
| lifeless | by dropped out, I mean the IRC channel | 03:41 |
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| clarkb | is that a translations change? | 03:42 |
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| mordred | clarkb: no, it's the nova entrypoints console_scripts change | 03:43 |
| mordred | lifeless: it's mostly because the patch moves all of the files from bin/ to nova/cmd/ | 03:43 |
| mordred | and gerrit is showing it weirdly | 03:43 |
| clarkb | mordred: if you change any of the files too then git does a Delete and Add rather than just a Move | 03:44 |
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| mordred | clarkb: yeah - I know - but gerrit is showing as an add and a modify | 03:44 |
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| ttx | Today is BugMail avalanche day! | 10:15 |
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| eglynn_ | bcwaldon: can you take a peek at https://review.openstack.org/24988 ? | 10:34 |
| * eglynn_ is eager to get this landed before any actual migrations turn up in havana ... | 10:34 | |
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| zykes- | nice! | 10:40 |
| zykes- | G day today :D | 10:40 |
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| garyk | pixelbeat: ping | 11:49 |
| jd__ | ttx: is there a tag for bugs we want to backport fixes in stable/grizzly? | 11:52 |
| ttx | jd__: grizzly-backport-potential | 11:52 |
| jd__ | ttx: thx | 11:52 |
| ttx | or you can just create a grizzly task now | 11:52 |
| ttx | the tag is more to suggest to do it | 11:52 |
| jd__ | you mean milestone? | 11:53 |
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| ttx | no... "target to series" and select grizzly | 11:53 |
| jd__ | ok | 11:53 |
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| * ttx gives a few more minutes to jgriffith, dolphm and markmcclain to oppose immediate promotion of their RC3 to final | 14:10 | |
| sdague | ttx: after you promote everything else to final, can you set stable/grizzly tag on tempest milestone proposed | 14:11 |
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| ttx | sdague: you mean creating the stable/grizzly branch from current milestone-proposed ? | 14:11 |
| sdague | ttx: correct | 14:12 |
| ttx | i'll do that now. Need to kill some time | 14:12 |
| sdague | great | 14:12 |
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| ttx | sdague: done | 14:14 |
| sdague | ttx: thanks much | 14:14 |
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| zykes- | Any Quantum folks, what does: https://github.com/openstack/quantum/blob/master/quantum/common/test_lib.py do ? | 14:23 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/oslo-incubator: Add a gettextutils.install() helper function https://review.openstack.org/25820 | 14:39 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/horizon: Refactor the quotas tests https://review.openstack.org/25375 | 14:40 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/oslo-incubator: Support overriding oslo localedir too https://review.openstack.org/25821 | 14:41 |
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| ttx | Grizzly is now out. Congrats everyone ! | 14:50 |
| chmouel_ | let's all get drunk now | 14:50 |
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| ttx | need to push the incubated projects out first. Or maybe after. Would be funnier | 14:51 |
| chmouel | :) | 14:51 |
| maoy | ttx: congrats! | 14:53 |
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| marun | mordred: ping | 15:00 |
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| mordred | marun: morning! | 15:02 |
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| marun | mordred: morning! https://review.openstack.org/#/c/26070/ | 15:04 |
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| marun | mordred: It was made a lot easier with emacs integration for pylint/pyflake. hopefully you have similar editor integration to make correcting the issues easier? | 15:05 |
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| mordred | marun: AWESOME | 15:06 |
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| mordred | marun: there is a vim plugin that will run flake8 on save ... I've been looking for one that will help with auto-correction :) | 15:06 |
| zykes- | mordred: or just get sublime with pyflake and pep8.... | 15:06 |
| mordred | zykes-: :) | 15:07 |
| zykes- | i've got autovalidation on save and on every 5 secs.. | 15:07 |
| zykes- | gives me a "dropdown" menu if there's errors | 15:07 |
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| marun | mordred: the emacs integration does the whole tree at a go, and allows navigation via hotkeys for each issue found (it's based on the compilation mode). does the vim plugin support the same? | 15:09 |
| mordred | marun: nope - that's a good reason for me to use emacs (I use both editors interchangably) ... do you have a link to the plugin? | 15:09 |
| marun | mordred: un momento | 15:10 |
| mordred | jeblair: you might be interested in the above as well ^^ | 15:10 |
| mordred | marun: also - did I tell you that we havea hacking plugin for flake8 already? | 15:11 |
| mordred | marun: I think I need to add a config option for it to enable/disable it, so that it's safe to have it generally installed | 15:11 |
| marun | mordred: I heard there was one, wasn't sure it was done… I'll make sure to work on a secondary patch... | 15:12 |
| marun | mordred: http://andialbrecht.de/blog/2011/09/26/running-flake8-in-emacs.html | 15:12 |
| jeblair | nifty! | 15:12 |
| marun | mordred: So there is one fix I had to make to get it working against a whole tree... | 15:12 |
| mordred | marun: it's just called "hacking" | 15:12 |
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| marun | mordred: Here's everything you need: http://pastebin.com/hHbdg3TS http://pastebin.com/jdRhgvGf http://pastebin.com/Pifnk1mk | 15:17 |
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| marun | mordred: I should probably clean this stuff up, since the change I made makes pylint/pyflake only work on a tree rather than the current buffer. But it's enough of a timesaver for a flake8 cleanup effort that I figure it's best to just hand it over. | 15:18 |
| mordred | marun: yah. totally | 15:19 |
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| FunnyLookinHat | So it looks like w/ devstack - nova sets a rule to block external access to any machine that is spun up ( i.e. it blocks 10.0.0.2/32 when a machine is spun up on that IP ) - is there a reason for that? Or a way to disable it besides remoing the iptables rule ? | 15:22 |
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| dtroyer | FunnyLookinHat: do you have a security group defined for that vm? | 15:24 |
| FunnyLookinHat | dtroyer, nope - just the default setup | 15:24 |
| marun | FunnyLookinHat: Is that a private ip you're talking about? | 15:24 |
| FunnyLookinHat | marun, yes | 15:24 |
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| FunnyLookinHat | My goal is to ssh directly into spun up boxes with a static route - and the routes all work if I remove those rules (obvs. ) | 15:24 |
| marun | FunnyLookinHat: Why not assign a floating ip? | 15:25 |
| FunnyLookinHat | So I'm wondering if there is a proper way to create a public interface for those machines via the host-only adapter | 15:25 |
| FunnyLookinHat | marun, I don' | 15:25 |
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| FunnyLookinHat | I've tried setting a block for the floating range to something like 192.168.56.128/25 | 15:25 |
| FunnyLookinHat | But it doesn't get passed to nova and ( in effect ) doesn't seem to work. | 15:25 |
| FunnyLookinHat | Trying again as we speak though to make sure it's not me | 15:25 |
| marun | FunnyLookinHat: Why do you think it doesn't get passed to nova? | 15:26 |
| FunnyLookinHat | marun, because floating_range = blank in nova.conf - and it seems nova ignores any IP range that it can't perceive as having full control over | 15:26 |
| FunnyLookinHat | as per dtroyer 's suggestion | 15:27 |
| FunnyLookinHat | stacking now to verify.... :) | 15:27 |
| dtroyer | FunnyLookinHat: look at devstack's exercises/floating_ips.sh for an example of how to setup floating IPs and security groups. in fact, run that script and make sure it works in your setup. | 15:27 |
| FunnyLookinHat | dtroyer, Ah ok | 15:27 |
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| sdague | ttx: yay for grizzly day | 15:29 |
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| ttx | working on opening the stable/grizzly branches | 15:30 |
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| FunnyLookinHat | Yeah I don't think it'll be that easy - it successfully gets an IP ( 192.168.56.129) - but the host computer doesn't know how to route to it and I'm not sure that devstack is using the correct interface for that conn | 15:31 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/nova: Fallback to conductor if types are not stashed. https://review.openstack.org/26033 | 15:33 |
| markmc | ttx, we also add the branch name to .gitreview | 15:34 |
| markmc | ttx, no biggie on that, though - happy to do it later | 15:34 |
| chmouel | marun: I would use flymake+flake8 with emacs this would make even easier to spot the errors | 15:34 |
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| marun | chmouel: For ongoing use, sure. But this is in the initial repo-wide cleanup. | 15:35 |
| ttx | markmc: ah. Will do on further proposals | 15:35 |
| chmouel | marun: i.e: https://github.com/chmouel/emacs-config/blob/master/configs/programming/python.el#L7 | 15:35 |
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| chmouel | marun: ah cool | 15:35 |
| marun | chmouel: :) | 15:35 |
| markmc | ttx, ok, that's nova andkeystone approved | 15:35 |
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| ttx | markmc: what should I change to .gitreview exactly (for the next ones) ? | 15:36 |
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| markmc | ttx, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/24216/ | 15:36 |
| ttx | markmc: ok, will do on the others | 15:37 |
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| markmc | ttx, coolness | 15:37 |
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| ttx | markmc: will ping you again in ~10min when I have all reviews aligned | 15:40 |
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| ttx | arhh | 15:50 |
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| FunnyLookinHat | dtroyer, marun - After spinning up an instance and assigning it a floating IP - I can ping it via the private IP - 10.0.0.2 - but when I try to ping the floating IP 192.168.56.130 I get ping: sendmsg: Operation not permitted | 15:56 |
| FunnyLookinHat | Strangest thing ever. | 15:56 |
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| FunnyLookinHat | But supposely ./floating_ips.sh is passing it's test "SUCCESS" at the end | 15:56 |
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| jd__ | ttx: can I announce to o-announce@l.o.o too? | 16:04 |
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| ttx | jd__: it's a good question. I guess yes | 16:04 |
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| ttx | push there and i'll approve it | 16:05 |
| jd__ | ttx: ok :) | 16:05 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/nova: Remove deprecated Grizzly code. https://review.openstack.org/26062 | 16:05 |
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| FunnyLookinHat | Seems to be more iptables jankiness.... :-P | 16:13 |
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| supaku | anyone know how to build a valid cpudef for Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2430 0 @ 2.20GHz ? | 16:22 |
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| mkollaro | n swift, is there some nice way to find out how many replicas there really are of some object? say that replication count is 3, but one disk dies -> I need to check that there are only 2 replicas of it now and later check if it got replicated and there are 3 again | 16:30 |
| notmyname | mkollaro: you can use a monte-carlo method with the swift-dispersion-report, but if you are looking for a specific object, use swift-get-nodes to see where it should be and check to see if it's really there | 16:31 |
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| notmyname | mkollaro: I've gave a talk demoing that very scenario. let me find a link | 16:32 |
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| mkollaro | notmyname: thanks :) | 16:32 |
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| notmyname | mkollaro: http://mirror.linux.org.au/linux.conf.au/2013/mp4/Playing_with_OpenStack_Swift.mp4 | 16:33 |
| notmyname | mkollaro: tl;dr: you keep your full durability when you lose a drive | 16:33 |
| mkollaro | notmyname: btw, do you know about any fail injection tests for swift? | 16:35 |
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| notmyname | mkollaro: perhaps, but I'm not familiar with that phrase. can you describe it? | 16:35 |
| mkollaro | for example, you would create some swift setup, kill 2 disks and see if the objects survived it and if they got replicated after a while | 16:36 |
| mkollaro | or kill a whole zone and see if swift survived it | 16:36 |
| notmyname | mkollaro: heh, that's actually exactly what that video shows. I've got it all written up in an unpublished blog post. I'll try to get that out in the next few weeks | 16:37 |
| notmyname | mkollaro: and I know of anecdotal evidence of eg pulling the plug on a full rack of prod gear and seeing that customers are not impacted | 16:37 |
| mkollaro | notmyname: would you perhaps give me an alpha version of the block post? I just started writing automated tests for this | 16:38 |
| mkollaro | *blog post | 16:38 |
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| notmyname | mkollaro: basically, what you're describing is exactly what swift is designed to do. it's pretty easy to take data off a socket and write it to a disk. what swift does is place your data across many disks and work around failures | 16:40 |
| mkollaro | notmyname: I know that, but there aren't any automated tests for it :) | 16:40 |
| notmyname | mkollaro: ah. you may be interested in the probe tests for swift. that's what they do | 16:40 |
| notmyname | mkollaro: they are part of the codebase. .probetests | 16:41 |
| notmyname | mkollaro: sorry I didn't make that connection earlier | 16:41 |
| mkollaro | notmyname: I'll look at it | 16:43 |
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| mkollaro | notmyname: aren't those tests just for a single host setup? | 16:45 |
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| notmyname | mkollaro: yes, those tests are intended to be run in a swift-all-in-one so that it can start and stop the processes that are running to test their functionality. something that tests that on a cluster would probably be much more complex and much more specific to a particular deployment | 16:49 |
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| mkollaro | notmyname: yeah, that's what I have in mind | 16:50 |
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| jgriffith | annegentle: ping | 16:54 |
| Shri | hey all… having tough luck getting tempurl to work with swift and keystone v2.0. hoping folks here may have answers :) | 16:54 |
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| vishy | adam_g: are you looking into this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1158563 | 17:06 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1158563 in nova "After grizzly upgrade, EC2 API requests fail:Could not find: credential" [Undecided,New] | 17:06 |
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| adam_g | vishy, i haven't yet. filed it before i split for holiday last week. :) ill poke at it in a bit if i can reproduce and update the bug | 17:08 |
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| vishy | that would be awesome | 17:10 |
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| zykes- | vishy: what do I need to do in order to get spiec working ? | 17:17 |
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| annegentle | jgriffith: hey | 17:32 |
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| jgriffith | annegentle: hey there | 17:39 |
| jgriffith | annegentle: I was trying to figure out where things were with getting the new manuals showing up on the docs page | 17:39 |
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| jgriffith | annegentle: I pinged thingee as well | 17:39 |
| annegentle | jgriffith: okay | 17:39 |
| jgriffith | annegentle: think he's on the case, probably looking for you :) | 17:39 |
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| thingee | annegentle, jgriffith: I'm updating the /run page now. | 17:43 |
| thingee | have a patch in a sec | 17:43 |
| annegentle | thingee: yeah that's a good spot | 17:43 |
| jgriffith | thingee: awesome! | 17:43 |
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| ayoung | ttx, I just noticed that IBM has a couple copyright strings in some files like https://review.openstack.org/#/c/25906/1/tests/test_v3_protection.py and it seesm like they are the only company that has those. Is this Kosher? | 17:43 |
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| ayoung | I realize that IBMers origianlly wrote those files, but I haven;t been throwing Red Hat or personal copyright on any of the files I've written, and it seems like a strange exception. | 17:44 |
| jgriffith | ayoung: we had a discussion on not doing copyright going forward I thought and just doing the Apache license header | 17:45 |
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| annegentle | ayoung: here's the guidance we have: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Documentation/Copyright | 17:47 |
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| zaitcev | guys... Say I download signature from keyserver, e.g. 25B10423 | 17:54 |
| zaitcev | so, like gpg --recv-key 25B10423 | 17:54 |
| zaitcev | gpg: key 25B10423: public key "Thierry Carrez (ttx) <thierry@openstack.org>" imported | 17:54 |
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| zaitcev | good. Now, I need to "trust" it, I guess | 17:54 |
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| zaitcev | Say I meet ttx in Portland. How does he verify it... I mean I got the key from keyserver. He carries a private key on his persona, I presume. With this private key he does what? | 17:55 |
| zaitcev | I just don't see a link between my ~/.gnupg/trustdb.gpg and his | 17:56 |
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| zaitcev | I just want to verify something I'm packaging for Grizzly for Fedora | 17:57 |
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| zaitcev | gpg says gpg: WARNING: This key is not certified with a trusted signature! | 17:58 |
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| sdague | ttx: you still about? | 18:03 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/nova: Optimize resource tracker queries for instances https://review.openstack.org/26109 | 18:06 |
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| jgriffith | markwash: https://etherpad.openstack.org/cinder-local-driver | 18:16 |
| jgriffith | vishy: ^^ | 18:16 |
| jgriffith | This may or may not be anything like what you had in mind but... lemme know | 18:16 |
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| markwash | looking | 18:17 |
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| jgriffith | markwash: no rush... going to lunch | 18:17 |
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| vishy | arosen: ping https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1163670 | 18:20 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1163670 in nova "Cannot boot Nova as quantum throws 404 when Floating IP extension unavailable" [Undecided,New] | 18:20 |
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| arosen | vishy: I assigned it to myself. About to grab lunch and then i'll check it out. | 18:22 |
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| adam_g | vishy, dont worry about that ec2 thing. total packaging issue. | 18:34 |
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| ttx | sdague: yes | 18:38 |
| sdague | ttx: you get my email about the unconference switches? | 18:39 |
| * ttx reads | 18:39 | |
| ttx | sdague: sure, edit the google doc | 18:40 |
| sdague | can you pm me the link again? I don't have it any more | 18:40 |
| WormMan | ooo, I could do an unconference session on horrifying applications of networking in Openstack... | 18:42 |
| ttx | sure jus ta sec | 18:42 |
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| ausxxh_ | there are currently two iscsi solutions for Linux, one is LIO(default) and another one is SCST, openstack is still using the old iscsitarget solution, and added LIO in Grizzly | 18:46 |
| ausxxh_ | how can I add iscsi-scst support? | 18:46 |
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| vishy | adam_g: whew thanks | 18:47 |
| ttx | vishy: hola! anything urgent ? | 18:48 |
| vishy | yeah | 18:48 |
| vishy | i think we should produce a .1 really quick | 18:48 |
| vishy | ttx: note the critical and highs: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bugs?field.tag=grizzly-backport-potential | 18:49 |
| Shri | swift.__version__ in grizzly is 1.7.6? or 1.8.0? | 18:50 |
| notmyname | Shri: 1.8.0 | 18:50 |
| ttx | vishy: let's backport them to sta ble/grizzly and document them in release notes first | 18:50 |
| Shri | notmyname: thanks. I see 1.8.0-dev. That means this isn't the officially released build? | 18:50 |
| ttx | (stable/grizzly is now open) | 18:51 |
| notmyname | Shri: are you installing from source? | 18:51 |
| Shri | I copied a VM from someone who followed these directions: http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/openstack-compute/install/apt/content/osfolubuntu-swift.html | 18:52 |
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| notmyname | Shri: there's a tar download link on https://launchpad.net/swift | 18:58 |
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| imsplitbit | devananda: yt? | 19:05 |
| devananda | imsplitbit: on a call for the next hour or so | 19:06 |
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| imsplitbit | devananda: ok hit me up when you're done, wanted to bounce some things off you | 19:07 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/python-glanceclient: Improve unit tests for python-glanceclient.glanceclient.common.http https://review.openstack.org/23690 | 19:42 |
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| zykes- | vishy: you around ? I've installed kvm-qemu-spice on my devstack node but still I get by libvirt that it doesn't have spice or so | 20:00 |
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| sdague | any keystone folks around? I'm trying to figure out if there is a narrow subset of these changes - http://paste.openstack.org/show/35300/ we can get away with for upgrade testing on keystone. (that's the difference between a folsom devstack install and a grizzly devstack install) | 20:03 |
| topol | ayoung, dolphm, , been through a couple of rounds of review with bknudson so Im ready for both of you to take a look: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/25327/ (TLS for LDAP) | 20:03 |
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| topol | sdague, I assume you are not testing the ldap identity driver, correct? | 20:05 |
| sdague | topol: not intentionally | 20:06 |
| sdague | grenade basically does a folsom default install | 20:06 |
| sdague | injects some data, shuts it down, then brings up grizzly devstack install | 20:06 |
| topol | sdague, my guess is no so all the changes in the ldap section you can ignore | 20:07 |
| sdague | and I'm trying to prune down to a minimum of config changes required for each component | 20:07 |
| sdague | using the folsom configs definitely doesn't work | 20:07 |
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| topol | sdague, you definitely need the member_role_* stuff! | 20:08 |
| Ryan_Lane | added some comments, but didn't -1 | 20:08 |
| Ryan_Lane | we should really default to being secure | 20:08 |
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| sdague | topol: aren't all the member_role things commented out, so we're taking defaults? | 20:09 |
| topol | sdague, you should be able to disable trusts | 20:09 |
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| sdague | topol: so what about the [auth] section, or from 182 down? | 20:11 |
| devananda | imsplitbit: back. wassap? | 20:12 |
| topol | sdague, the policy json stuff and the wsgi config stuff Im pretty sure you need | 20:12 |
| sdague | yeh, so the policy is fine, I'll just copy that file | 20:13 |
| sdague | I'm more concerned with the .conf file changes | 20:13 |
| imsplitbit | I'm looking through your openvz-tools and the setup script looks like it takes care of everything. I'm gonna fork it and propose a fix that incorporates parallels prebuilt kernel | 20:14 |
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| imsplitbit | devananda: ^^ | 20:14 |
| imsplitbit | devananda: also have you tested that script with devstack-gate to see if it can launch tests after setting up the box? | 20:14 |
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| topol | Ryan_Lane, so I did a full regression test with TLS, just watching the test files run there is a little bit of a performance hit compared to when I would run a regression with no TLS | 20:17 |
| Ryan_Lane | of course there's a performance hit :) | 20:19 |
| Ryan_Lane | if people want that performance back at the cost of their security, they're free to disable it | 20:20 |
| Ryan_Lane | but we should protect people by default | 20:20 |
| topol | Ryan_Lane, also given python ldap on the client side does not appear to verify cacertfile at all hypothetically we could make it the default without causing folks grief | 20:20 |
| devananda | imsplitbit: i haven't touched those openvz tools in a while, but ya, it did handle everything :) | 20:20 |
| Ryan_Lane | even using require or demand, it doesn't check? | 20:20 |
| vishy | zykes-: don't know what the problem is there | 20:21 |
| devananda | imsplitbit: as for d-g, i was testing it in a headless mode (basically faking what a jenkins master would do) but it was able to run the tests (and fail a lot) | 20:21 |
| vishy | possibly libvirt/qemu version mismatch | 20:21 |
| imsplitbit | devananda: I'm still waiting to hear back from kir at parallels regarding their automated kernel builds | 20:22 |
| devananda | imsplitbit: you mention parallels' kernel -- can you point me to it again? iirc, they didn't have one for ubuntu | 20:22 |
| devananda | imsplitbit: oh. nvm :( | 20:22 |
| imsplitbit | but as you've probably seen I've re-proposed the driver for nova | 20:22 |
| imsplitbit | it's in much better shape | 20:22 |
| devananda | indeed! | 20:22 |
| imsplitbit | supports raw devices now | 20:22 |
| topol | Ryan_Lane, even with demand it does not verify the CACERT. So there is a minor risk of a man in the middle attack but my security folks said it wasn't the end of the world. What I have not tried is reconfiguring my openldap on the server side to not use TLS and see if having TLS enabled on the client side breaks in that scenario | 20:22 |
| imsplitbit | err raw devices for volumes | 20:22 |
| lifeless | markwash: when you're done in that meeting, lets continue from yesterday | 20:23 |
| Ryan_Lane | I find it really hard to believe it doesn't verify the cert.... | 20:23 |
| Ryan_Lane | but, yeah, it's not the end of the world, but it's bad | 20:23 |
| devananda | imsplitbit: i haven't started reviewing it yet. if not today, then over the weekend i should have some time | 20:23 |
| imsplitbit | devananda: do you have any time to kinda walk me through what you had setup to jumpstart me with setting up the d-g testing | 20:23 |
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| devananda | imsplitbit: pleia2 would probably be the better resource for that | 20:24 |
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| imsplitbit | devananda: yeah I know we're a week or two away from getting testing working but I knew it was alot of code to review so I figured the sooner I got it out there the better | 20:24 |
| Ryan_Lane | topol: google searches imply it checks | 20:24 |
| devananda | imsplitbit: she's been looking at it more recently, specifically for baremetal testing. there may be some differences between the two sets of tests, but not much | 20:24 |
| Ryan_Lane | (and in my experience it checks) | 20:24 |
| topol | Ryan_Lane, its still using the server side stuff to encrypt. But look at the the bad certfile testcases. I was able to put complete crap in for certfiles and the tls happily ran even when using demand on the client side | 20:24 |
| topol | Ryan_Lane, please try the code and see if you get a different result | 20:25 |
| * Ryan_Lane nods | 20:25 | |
| imsplitbit | devananda: well I was hoping to reuse the other driver's functional tests since a driver is a driver | 20:25 |
| Ryan_Lane | this is implemented correctly | 20:25 |
| imsplitbit | I have unittest coverage | 20:25 |
| Ryan_Lane | I'll try it when I get a chance | 20:25 |
| devananda | imsplitbit: the difference is requiring a separate kernel to use the openvz driver, which required some separate tooling in d-g to pre-install that kernel | 20:26 |
| topol | Ryan_Lane, I did notice that setting demand on the server side (and hence demanding a client CA) does work. That will bring things to a halt in a hurry | 20:26 |
| topol | Ryan_Lane, excellent. Thanks! | 20:26 |
| devananda | imsplitbit: if you guys have cloud images with openvz kernels baked into them, then that tooling isn't necessary, and it'd be just like any other d-g job | 20:26 |
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| imsplitbit | devananda: yeah I figured that would be a little wonky since AFAIK no other driver requires that | 20:26 |
| devananda | imsplitbit: let's move to -infra for a minute | 20:26 |
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| imsplitbit | kk | 20:26 |
| Ryan_Lane | topol: well, that would require us adding client certificate support | 20:27 |
| Ryan_Lane | it's not really used very heavily | 20:27 |
| Ryan_Lane | I think most environments that care that much end up with kerberos | 20:27 |
| topol | Ryan_Lane, agreed. | 20:27 |
| Ryan_Lane | and then add client certificate requirements on the kerberos server | 20:27 |
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| topol | Ryan_Lane, one difference may be I was using gnutls underneath which maybe weaker with cert verification that what you compiled your python ldap with | 20:31 |
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| Ryan_Lane | that's the default for debian | 20:31 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/nova: Move console scripts to entrypoints. https://review.openstack.org/11556 | 20:31 |
| Ryan_Lane | and ubuntu | 20:31 |
| Ryan_Lane | wait. you compiled python-ldap? | 20:31 |
| Ryan_Lane | you didn't use the distro package? | 20:32 |
| topol | Ryan_Lane, no I used the default | 20:32 |
| Ryan_Lane | ah. ok | 20:32 |
| topol | I just figured maybe your environment was different | 20:32 |
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| zykes- | vishy: i've installed it from packages | 20:33 |
| zykes- | have you gotten it to work earlier ? | 20:33 |
| vishy | zykes-: yeah i have used it | 20:33 |
| vishy | but i was using all sorts of custom verisons of things | 20:34 |
| zykes- | isn't it just the spice thing ? k | 20:34 |
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| jgriffith | imsplitbit: which change were you referring to (raw devs for volumes)? | 20:51 |
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| jgriffith | imsplitbit: NM.. found it | 20:52 |
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| ayoung | topol, yeah, figured I let you two duke it out. He's far more stringent than I am. | 20:56 |
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| ayoung | topol, thanks for working through that, though. Very important to some people | 20:57 |
| Shri | Is there a difference between using "use = egg:swift#keystoneauth" vs "paste.filter_factory = keystone.middleware.swift_auth:filter_factory" in the proxy-server.conf? | 20:57 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-dev/devstack: Add rhel to DISTRO match https://review.openstack.org/25456 | 20:58 |
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| topol | ayoung, NP. glad I could contribute | 21:02 |
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| markwash | lifeless: oh no I forgot about image building in the meeting :-( | 21:02 |
| lifeless | markwash: tis ok :) | 21:03 |
| markwash | lifeless: I saw some more talk on the dev list about other image building solutions as well | 21:03 |
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| lifeless | 12:46 < markwash> bye! | 21:03 |
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| lifeless | 12:46 < lifeless> So, I'm looking for something like the recently discussed nova cooperating-adults thing. | 21:03 |
| lifeless | 12:46 < lifeless> damn, too slow. | 21:03 |
| lifeless | markwash: was a one liner you missed yesterday | 21:03 |
| lifeless | markwash: yes, it is a Hot Topic :) | 21:03 |
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| markwash | cooperating-adults? | 21:04 |
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| lifeless | markwash: do you remember the thread when vish stepped down from nova lead ? | 21:04 |
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| markwash | lifeless: yup, so more of a committee approach? | 21:05 |
| lifeless | markwash: the essence I got was not needing rules and beauracracy but instead knowing that the voted PTL is sane and will collaborate with the other knowledgeable folk | 21:06 |
| lifeless | or could even nominate a group if that's what they wanted | 21:06 |
| markwash | I imagine myself to be passably sane | 21:06 |
| lifeless | so what I mean here is that if image building is part of glance, I'm -not- seeking a PTL label or anything, but the knowledge base needed to care for image building is very different to image management and serving | 21:07 |
| markwash | I can certainly agree that the knowledge base is very different | 21:07 |
| lifeless | so having a verbal understanding that you delegate or something, for the context of image build, would be sufficient | 21:07 |
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| markwash | so you are proposing that we bring image-building on as a concern of OpenStack Glance | 21:08 |
| markwash | bring it in to the fold, but as a separate code base, possibly one that includes the various tools being discussed on the list | 21:08 |
| ayoung | topol, some nits. What do you think about defaulting to TLS? I think it would break things, but Ryan_Lane should probably be answered on that | 21:08 |
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| markwash | and, acknowledging that I know little about it at all, defer to a group to manage its review/design/development process? | 21:09 |
| markwash | lifeless: ^^ | 21:09 |
| lifeless | markwash: yes; tweaking a little - bring the concept into the fold; at least one code base (diskimage-builder), perhaps 3 or four (diskimage-builder, oz, a web API for folk that want to run these things remotely) | 21:09 |
| ayoung | I'd probably tend to go with ldaps myself, so TLS would actually get in my way. We'd have to check the URL, I guess | 21:10 |
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| topol | ayoung, if the python TLS was fully functional on ca-cert verification then it would definitely break things | 21:10 |
| markwash | lifeless: so its an ingriguing idea, but I honestly don't feel qualified to pass any judgement on it | 21:10 |
| lifeless | markwash: and you don't need to agree to defer on everything, just agree that all things being equal the image-building folk should have precedence in that area | 21:10 |
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| topol | ayoung, right now we could probably get away with it but its a point in tme statement that will bite us later | 21:11 |
| markwash | lifeless: maybe I can bring it up with some more TC folks? and the former Glance PTL? | 21:11 |
| lifeless | markwash: one thing that the chat yesterday did for me was help me think more about when things should be under one umbrella, and when not. | 21:11 |
| lifeless | markwash: by all means | 21:11 |
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| markwash | yeah, deciding about the size of that umbrella feels kind of like more of an OS concern than a specific glance concern | 21:12 |
| lifeless | markwash: my key objectives are: -> get the mature code off of stackforge. Its real now. Ensure good leadership of it going forward, as a (hopefully) critical bit of CICD/deploying of openstack. | 21:12 |
| topol | its easy enough to turn on if you know what you are doing. and really if we are worried about secuity out of the box, how many of the other components are connecting out of the box to keystone using HTTPS? | 21:12 |
| markwash | lifeless: I'm really excited about OS users and deployers being able to potentially share more similarities in the typical images they build | 21:12 |
| lifeless | markwash: So the other 'obvious' path is to make image building a Thing in the same way glance/swift/nova are; I can start that process in parallel perhaps | 21:12 |
| Ryan_Lane | ayoung: well, it should default to tls if using ldap | 21:13 |
| Ryan_Lane | not ldaps | 21:13 |
| Ryan_Lane | if using ldaps tls should definitely not be used | 21:13 |
| lifeless | markwash: and we can discuss and debate and see what makes sense. | 21:13 |
| Ryan_Lane | and the code should be smart enough to know that :) | 21:13 |
| Ryan_Lane | topol: I very much dislike that we don't use https by default for keystone | 21:13 |
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| Ryan_Lane | *very* much | 21:14 |
| markwash | lifeless: I'll bring it up at the TC meeting next tuesday, both the subject of "should it be part of openstack?" and "should it live in the glance project?" | 21:14 |
| Ryan_Lane | it's an authentication system that defaults to being insecure. | 21:14 |
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| Ryan_Lane | and that makes me want to stab | 21:14 |
| markwash | and see if I can get some more feedback from other folks before then | 21:14 |
| lifeless | markwash: cool | 21:14 |
| lifeless | mordred: ^ FYI | 21:14 |
| lifeless | markwash: thank you | 21:15 |
| topol | Ryan_Lane you may need to add another comment regarding the ldaps not using TLS. I will add such a change. just comment so I dont slack off | 21:15 |
| markwash | yeah, I guess mordred can drive a lot of that too at the TC, so we'll just share | 21:15 |
| * Ryan_Lane nods | 21:15 | |
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| Ryan_Lane | done | 21:15 |
| topol | Ryan_Lane, the use of https needs buy in from the other projects for them to at least offer that as an option, correct? | 21:16 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/nova: Modify _verify_response to validate response codes. https://review.openstack.org/24664 | 21:16 |
| Ryan_Lane | yep | 21:17 |
| topol | Ryan_Lane, so basically if the ldap URL is ldaps disable TLS correct | 21:17 |
| Ryan_Lane | yes | 21:17 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/nova: Fix SecurityGroups XML sample tests https://review.openstack.org/24870 | 21:17 |
| topol | Ryan_Lane, so on the https is there a slot where that can be discussed at the summit | 21:17 |
| topol | I have security folks going into convulsions when they see https not as an option | 21:18 |
| Ryan_Lane | for good reason | 21:18 |
| topol | :-) | 21:18 |
| Ryan_Lane | I'm surprised we're this many releases in and still have no support for it :) | 21:19 |
| bknudson | we can add https without changing clients. | 21:19 |
| bknudson | they can add it in their own time then. | 21:19 |
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| Ryan_Lane | indeed | 21:19 |
| Ryan_Lane | for proper security everything needs to support it, but no need to wait for everyone else to stop sucking :) | 21:20 |
| bknudson | where are we going to get the cert? | 21:20 |
| Ryan_Lane | of course it's possible to just stick an ssl terminator in front, but that's kind of lame | 21:20 |
| topol | gotta run but hopefully there is a slot (or over a beer) when we can discuss this in portland? | 21:20 |
| Ryan_Lane | I'm not sure if there's a slot | 21:21 |
| Ryan_Lane | I'd imagine there's a security slot, though | 21:21 |
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| termie | ayoung: looks like this can be done without ill effects now https://review.openstack.org/#/c/26144/ | 21:38 |
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| notmyname | ttx: ping | 21:47 |
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| notmyname | ttx: can I push to sched for swift? | 21:51 |
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| ayoung | termie, I'll look when I get home, have to run and catch a bus | 21:59 |
| ayoung | but that looks fantastic. | 21:59 |
| termie | ayoung: RUN FAST | 21:59 |
| termie | ayoung: ZOMBIES | 21:59 |
| termie | ayoung: GET OUT WHILE YOU CAN | 21:59 |
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| ayoung | Nah, they are looking for brains. I'm safe. | 22:00 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/swift: Allow a configurable set of TempURL methods https://review.openstack.org/26111 | 22:17 |
| jesusaurus | where is the source for docs.openstack.org? how can i update a page? | 22:19 |
| clarkb | jesusaurus: it depends on the page, what are you wanting to update? | 22:20 |
| jesusaurus | the commands on http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/openstack-compute/admin/content/adding-images.html dont seem to work with current python-glanceclient | 22:21 |
| jesusaurus | you need to s/_/-/g and move the position of --file | 22:21 |
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| clarkb | jesusaurus: https://github.com/openstack/openstack-manuals/tree/master/doc/src/docbkx/openstack-compute-admin I think | 22:22 |
| jesusaurus | clarkb: thanks, openstack-manuals is the bit i was looking for | 22:22 |
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| bknudson | If I have two functions with the same name in python, what does it do? last one wins? | 22:27 |
| bknudson | two class members | 22:27 |
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| notmyname | bknudson: "last" one at the time of line execution, yet | 22:33 |
| notmyname | *yes | 22:33 |
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| bknudson | notmyname: thanks, that's what my testing showed too. | 22:34 |
| notmyname | reed: do you manage the sched.org site for the summit? | 22:34 |
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