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| kashyap | Hien, does this appear like a bug - http://www.fpaste.org/1nS4/ . I erroneously added a security rule for ICMP with port 22 (icmp doesn't run on ports) , and now I can't delete the rule using existing syntax. Any hints | 13:53 |
| ayoung | kashyap, I don't know the nova api well enough to help you | 13:54 |
| kashyap | no worries ayoung , I'll wait | 13:55 |
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| sdague | as I don't like that grenade is regenning conf files | 14:08 |
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| ayoung | dolphm, are you still hunting down the "too many open files" problem from this morning, or have you moved on? | 18:21 |
| dolphm | ayoung: still poking at it, yes | 18:21 |
| ayoung | dolphm, I'll let you work on it then | 18:22 |
| dolphm | ayoung: i don't have a solution at all, i'm just working on narrowing down the configurations that are causing it | 18:23 |
| dolphm | ayoung: at this point, my only solution would be to switch the default token_format to UUID in milestone-proposed | 18:23 |
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| ayoung | dolphm, have you looked at the connection pooling? | 18:23 |
| dolphm | ayoung: switching from sqlite to mysql appears to make it more difficult to reproduce, testing now w/ PKI + mysql and ulimit -n 256 (ubuntu's default) | 18:23 |
| ayoung | dolphm, lets go the other way. Lets drop the ulimit and see if we can reliably recreate ut | 18:24 |
| ayoung | it | 18:24 |
| ayoung | then hit it with the debugger | 18:24 |
| ayoung | dolphm, you are looking at mysql? I'll tackle sqlite then | 18:25 |
| dolphm | ayoung: my normal ulimit is 1024, but i can run uuid + sqlite + v2 or v3 w/ a value of 64 just fine | 18:25 |
| ayoung | dolphm, so default falls over with PKI and sqlite? | 18:26 |
| dolphm | i don't know if sqlite vs mysql is the cause or is mysql just exacerbating the issue somehow | 18:26 |
| dolphm | ayoung: yes, see https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/1162857 | 18:26 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1162857 in keystone ""Too many open files" with PKI + sqlite + v3 auth" [Medium,New] | 18:26 |
| dolphm | sqlite + v2 + PKI seems to work fine | 18:27 |
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| ayoung | dolphm, this is not an in memory sqlite, out of curiousity | 18:30 |
| dolphm | on disk | 18:30 |
| ayoung | how was the system set up? | 18:30 |
| dolphm | default keystone.conf, except for overriding paths to pki files | 18:30 |
| ayoung | dolphm, can you post diffs you used? | 18:31 |
| ayoung | want to make sure I am doing the same thing | 18:31 |
| dolphm | ayoung: http://paste.openstack.org/raw/35062/ | 18:31 |
| dolphm | ayoung: the only difference between my current testing and prior testing is setting the connection string to a non-default mysql one | 18:32 |
| ayoung | ah, that is the mysql one | 18:32 |
| ayoung | default for sqlite is in pwd, right? | 18:32 |
| dolphm | ayoung: ///keystone.db -- yeah | 18:33 |
| ayoung | sqlalchemy.exc.OperationalError: (OperationalError) unable to open database file None None | 18:33 |
| ayoung | been a while since I messed with this... | 18:33 |
| ayoung | bin/keystone-manage db_sync should generate that file if there is none, right? | 18:34 |
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| dolphm | ayoung: yes | 18:45 |
| dolphm | ayoung: if it has write access | 18:45 |
| ayoung | dolphm, there is no way to do sqlite with devstack, is there? | 18:46 |
| ayoung | It would be nice to minimize the differences between the two | 18:47 |
| dolphm | ayoung: sure, switch /etc/keystone/keystone.conf sql's connection string to sqlite://opt/stack/keystone/keystone.db or whatever | 18:48 |
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| dolphm | ayoung: bug 1162845 does not appear to be a dupe of bug 1162857 | 19:12 |
| dtroyer | sdague: still around? I'm finally free... | 19:12 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1162845 in keystone ""Too many connections" with MySQL + sql token driver + v3 auth" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1162845 | 19:12 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1162857 in keystone ""Too many open files" with PKI + sqlite + v3 auth" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1162857 | 19:12 |
| sdague | dtroyer: give me 15, just doing some lab config stuff | 19:13 |
| sdague | back in my office shortly | 19:13 |
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| dtroyer | np | 19:13 |
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| ayoung | dolphm, cool | 19:13 |
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| topol | crazed, you around? | 19:16 |
| boris-42 | sdague Hi | 19:17 |
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| termie | dolphm: did that token patch make it in to any of the RCs? | 19:20 |
| dolphm | termie: did you propose it for milestone-proposed? | 19:21 |
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| termie | dolphm: no, the email about it said you had? or somebody did? | 19:21 |
| dolphm | termie: link? | 19:21 |
| dolphm | termie: the email i sent was just linking the bug, commit & review | 19:22 |
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| termie | dolphm: oh, it just says you tagged it | 19:24 |
| termie | dolphm: i don't have any idea what milestone-proposed is | 19:24 |
| termie | dolphm: well i have an idea, is it a branch? | 19:24 |
| dolphm | yes | 19:24 |
| bknudson | dolphm: by the way, v3 PKI tokens don't work with auth_token middleware. https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-keystoneclient/+bug/1161633 | 19:24 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1161633 in tempest "V3 token fails with KeyError 'expires'" [Undecided,In progress] | 19:24 |
| dolphm | termie: backport your patch and git-review milestone-proposed | 19:24 |
| termie | backport it to what? | 19:24 |
| dolphm | henrynash: ^ bug 1161633 | 19:25 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1161633 in tempest "V3 token fails with KeyError 'expires'" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1161633 | 19:25 |
| dolphm | termie: to https://github.com/openstack/keystone/tree/milestone-proposed | 19:25 |
| termie | dolphm: did that answer my question in some way? | 19:25 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/nova: Switch nova-baremetal-deploy-helper to use sfdisk. https://review.openstack.org/24484 | 19:27 |
| termie | okakaaakkykyyyy | 19:28 |
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| termie | dolphm: i assume origin/milestone-proposed and not gerrit/milestone-proposed ? | 19:30 |
| dolphm | termie: pull from origin, push to gerrit? | 19:30 |
| dolphm | git-review milestone-proposed will push appropriately | 19:31 |
| termie | dolphm: seeing what happens | 19:31 |
| termie | dolphm: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/25830/ | 19:31 |
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| dolphm | termie: +2'd, thanks! | 19:33 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/nova: Fix migrating instance to the same host. https://review.openstack.org/25373 | 19:34 |
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| dolphm | ayoung: found one fix | 19:36 |
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| dolphm | ayoung: for bonus points it also packs a small performance improvement lol | 19:37 |
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| topol | ayoung, so I have the TLS LDAP stuff working as long as I set TLSVerifyClient: never | 19:39 |
| sdague | dtroyer: ok, back now | 19:41 |
| dtroyer | sdague: roger | 19:42 |
| sdague | dtroyer: so grenade was doing a full reset of all the config files in switching to grizzly | 19:43 |
| dolphm | ayoung: if you've been able to reproduce at all, try this fix: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/25831/ | 19:43 |
| dolphm | termie: this may also affect your low ulimit while running tests https://review.openstack.org/#/c/25831/ | 19:43 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/nova: Convert host value from unicode to a string. https://review.openstack.org/25496 | 19:43 |
| dtroyer | sdague: right…my thought was to re-perform the same mods that devstack makes both times. | 19:43 |
| sdague | dtroyer: but from an upgrade perspective, that's kind of unrealistic | 19:44 |
| sdague | because operators aren't going to completely rewrite their configs | 19:44 |
| sdague | I wanted to excise that part, and just do the minimum changes required to start again in grizzly | 19:44 |
| sdague | which would also be a good map towards what's required to upgrade | 19:44 |
| dtroyer | it is how I did upgrades for years, especially when the config file formats (or comments) changed so as not to carry old stuff forward | 19:45 |
| sdague | sure | 19:45 |
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| sdague | but given that we make the claim that we don't break people's configs, as we only deprecate | 19:45 |
| sdague | we could use grenade to test that statement | 19:46 |
| sdague | and figure out where we fall down | 19:46 |
| topol | ayoung, allow works as well but for the new stronger levels the following is tripping me up: TLS: gnutls_certificate_verify_peers2 failed -49 | 19:46 |
| topol | 5159e1ae connection_read(13): unable to get TLS client DN, error=49 id=1008 | 19:46 |
| dtroyer | ok, sure | 19:46 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/nova: Add missing unit tests for FlavorActionController https://review.openstack.org/25604 | 19:47 |
| termie | dolphm: i need to try to get any tests running again :/ | 19:47 |
| dolphm | termie: new issue? | 19:47 |
| sdague | dtroyer: it means landing those devstack changes, then some scrambling to figure out what's needed | 19:47 |
| termie | dolphm: hasn't worked since we last spoke | 19:48 |
| termie | dolphm: but will try again right now | 19:48 |
| sdague | but at least nova looked pretty good when I commented out the config generation | 19:48 |
| dolphm | termie: send me a paste if it craps out | 19:48 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/nova: Better iptables DROP removal. https://review.openstack.org/25790 | 19:48 |
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| dtroyer | sdague: how would you feel about doing those devstack changes a bit differently? say moving setup_develop into the install_XXX functions? I've been looking and cant come up with a reason to keep that split…I did it initially as a just-in-case sort of thing that never materialized | 19:49 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/nova: Ensure only pickle-able objects live in metadata https://review.openstack.org/25536 | 19:49 |
| dtroyer | sdague: that would totally eliminate all of the configure_XXXclient functions too | 19:49 |
| sdague | sure, that seems fine | 19:50 |
| sdague | I can redo those now | 19:50 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/nova: Return proper error message when network conflicts https://review.openstack.org/25116 | 19:50 |
| termie | dolphm: made it through all the tests on master, not sure what changed but at least no more ulimit | 19:51 |
| termie | dolphm: still pretty slow | 19:51 |
| termie | dolphm: so may look into the database issues some more | 19:51 |
| dolphm | termie: i'm running the tests now with ulimit -n 64 (after the patch above) | 19:52 |
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| termie | dolphm: well it wasn't failing for you before | 19:52 |
| termie | dolphm: or at least, not as drastically | 19:52 |
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| termie | dolphm: all the test_v3_auth tests still create 20 new engines per test | 19:54 |
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| termie | dolphm: actually between 6 and 40 | 19:54 |
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| dolphm | termie: how are you counting that? | 19:55 |
| termie | def new_engine(): | 19:55 |
| termie | print 'NEW_ENGINE' | 19:55 |
| termie | connection_dict = sql.engine.url.make_url(CONF.sql.connection) | 19:55 |
| termie | using --nocapture and knowing how big my terminal window is | 19:55 |
| dolphm | termie: with or without my patch? | 19:56 |
| termie | i assume without | 19:56 |
| termie | just running off master | 19:56 |
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| dolphm | termie: with my patch from above: http://paste.openstack.org/raw/35072/ | 19:58 |
| sdague | dtroyer: like this https://review.openstack.org/25832 ? | 19:58 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/nova: Remove gettext.install() from nova/__init__.py https://review.openstack.org/25823 | 19:59 |
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| dtroyer | sdague: exactly like that | 20:01 |
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| sdague | dtroyer: ok, cool, let me make sure it still works :) | 20:01 |
| jgriffith | sdague: so how does that work? I don't actually see a call to to the setup_glanceclient function anywhere? | 20:02 |
| sdague | then I'll make the changes for all of them | 20:02 |
| sdague | jgriffith: setup_glanceclient only did setup_devel | 20:02 |
| sdague | that's now inside install_ | 20:02 |
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| jgriffith | sdague: ahhh... I see it. Thx | 20:03 |
| sdague | jgriffith: the goal being to not have grenade regen the conf files | 20:04 |
| jgriffith | sdague: nice | 20:04 |
| sdague | so we can figure out the minimum require conf changes to get to working grizzly | 20:04 |
| sdague | from our folsom install | 20:04 |
| jgriffith | got ya | 20:04 |
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| ayoung | dolphm, my devstack is really messed up right now, about to reboot after having done an upgrade of about 1600 packages, lets see where i am then. | 20:10 |
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| ayoung | topol, sounds like cert issues, which is not surprising. write up what you have and I'll take a look if this machine comes back to life after reboot. | 20:11 |
| ayoung | wish me luck | 20:11 |
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| topol | ayoung I will clean stuff up and post a new patch set. Pretty much everything is good except for my pass in a bad cert test which python ldap or openldap (not sure which one) | 20:13 |
| topol | doesnt even blink at and runs just fine | 20:13 |
| topol | but I checked the debug and TLS is running doing its thing | 20:13 |
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| sdague | dtroyer: so it looks like https://review.openstack.org/#/c/25832/1/stack.sh might still be an issue | 20:14 |
| sdague | anything thoughts | 20:15 |
| jbresnah | ping bcwaldon | 20:15 |
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| dtroyer | sdague: how fresh an install are you running on? and has folsom ever been on that system? | 20:17 |
| sdague | dtroyer: .... I don't know | 20:17 |
| sdague | what should I be looking for? | 20:17 |
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| sdague | yeh, it seems to be fine in the gate. Ok, what do you think I need to purge to get back to clean on my dev box | 20:18 |
| dtroyer | a glance binary that isn't from python-glanceclient. at least that was the reason for that specific order issue, back wne the glance client binary moved to its own package. actually, that was during folsom development so it shouln't be an issue now... | 20:18 |
| sdague | I've had this blade for a while | 20:19 |
| jbresnah | bcwaldon: I was hoping you would checkout https://review.openstack.org/#/c/21380/ in the context of havana and the blueprint created for it. | 20:19 |
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| dtroyer | start by cleaning out any pip-installed clients. that's another thing I want to clean up in stack.sh, the ordering of installs so we don't get pip-installed clients | 20:19 |
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| sdague | yeh, I just purged all of /usr/local, that looks like all the culprits | 20:22 |
| sdague | let's give this another shot | 20:22 |
| harlowja | mikal: yt | 20:23 |
| sdague | (it's looking fine in the gate) | 20:23 |
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| ttx | dolphm: opening RC3 milestone for you | 20:27 |
| dolphm | ttx: thanks | 20:27 |
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| dolphm | ttx: logging off for a while -- i targeted both those bugs at grizzly -- send me an email if you need anything else from me tonight | 20:36 |
| dolphm | henrynash: ayoung: review please :) https://review.openstack.org/#/c/25831/ | 20:36 |
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| ttx | dolphm: targeted to milestone instead. | 20:37 |
| ttx | https://launchpad.net/keystone/+milestone/grizzly-rc3 | 20:37 |
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| dolphm | ttx: ah okay, i assumed it needed to be both | 20:38 |
| ttx | henrynash, ayoung: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/25831/ blocking urgent rc3 :) | 20:38 |
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| dolphm | heckj +2'd | 20:40 |
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| ttx | dolphm: looks like jenkins is unhappy | 20:42 |
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| ayoung | FAILURE Jenkins has detected you trying to sneak by, roll initiative. | 20:49 |
| ayoung | ttx, I rolled a 1 | 20:49 |
| ayoung | But I get a +3 for wearing stinking sneakers | 20:50 |
| ttx | ayoung: you go last. | 20:50 |
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| ayoung | ttx, beware. I have reason to believe that the next comment on the bug will be written using Explosive Runes | 20:51 |
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| ttx | ayoung: you can't reach me, i'm going to bed. Someone else will detonate them. | 20:52 |
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| ayoung | ttx, failures look legit | 20:55 |
| ttx | ayoung: yeah, or the Gods of Odds are clearly against us | 20:56 |
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| ttx | ayoung: feel free to steal the fix from Dolph, since he is not around in the next hours | 20:56 |
| ayoung | ttx, I'll see what I can do | 20:57 |
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| gongysh | helo | 20:59 |
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| sdague | dtroyer: I pushed the next to changes, which is what I think we need for grenade | 21:00 |
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| sdague | next two... | 21:00 |
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| sdague | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack-dev/devstack+branch:master+topic:refactor_setup,n,z | 21:01 |
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| jbresnah | is there a guidline for OpenStack on when it use scripts and when to use entry_points in setup.py? | 21:07 |
| jbresnah | i greatly prefer entry_points because they can be python modules that you can load and test much easier | 21:07 |
| clarkb | jbresnah: I think we are slowly moving towards entry_points but this may differ depending on the particular project | 21:08 |
| jbresnah | anyone from glance have feelings on that? | 21:08 |
| jbresnah | i would like to convert a few of the scripts over | 21:08 |
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| ayoung | ttx, the more I look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/25831/2 the more uneasy I feel about it | 21:21 |
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| ayoung | Not that I think it won't work, but more like I think it will break like 98% of the unit tests | 21:22 |
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| zykes- | jbresnah: ping | 21:23 |
| jbresnah | zykes: pong | 21:24 |
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| zykes- | vkmc: :P | 21:26 |
| vkmc | :D | 21:26 |
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| vkmc | zykes-, Just pinging you | 21:33 |
| vkmc | zykes-, How is you deployment going? :) | 21:33 |
| zykes- | hehe | 21:34 |
| jbresnah | zykes-, is ping culturally awkward here? sorry I am still learning these things. | 21:35 |
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| zykes- | jbresnah: hehe | 21:36 |
| zykes- | not sure :på | 21:36 |
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| vkmc | It's like a nerdier poke | 21:36 |
| vkmc | I like it | 21:36 |
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| vkmc | Useful thing with low bandwidth connections of those years | 21:38 |
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| ayoung | dolphm, so, I was looking at your patch. I suspect that you will not be able to get that one through so easily | 22:10 |
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| ayoung | THe good new, however, is that I got devstack working. Somehow, It decided that only the "keystone" user will have access to the db | 22:10 |
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| ayoung | fortunately, this is easy to work with, by putting MYSQL_USER=keystone into localrc | 22:11 |
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| dolphm | ayoung: were you referring to something wrong outside of test failures in my patch? | 23:37 |
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| dolphm | ayoung: (both branches are passing) https://review.openstack.org/#/c/25831/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/25833/ | 23:39 |
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| dolphm | forgot to revise the teardown because i only executed individual tests earlier :( | 23:39 |
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| marun | arosen: ping | 23:43 |
| arosen | marun: pong | 23:43 |
| marun | arosen: sorry for being pedantic as to the sorting, there's one more. | 23:43 |
| arosen | marun: no problem what's up? | 23:44 |
| marun | arosen: but more to the point, looking at the test code I have an idea that might make things simpler | 23:44 |
| arosen | oh i see you commented it on there. | 23:44 |
| marun | arosen: it's a bit larger than the change. i just wanted to run it by you. | 23:44 |
| marun | arosen: for background: http://googletesting.blogspot.com/ | 23:44 |
| arosen | marun: it would be nice if ./run_test.sh would tell us if our imports were our of abc ordering...nova's does. | 23:44 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-dev/devstack: change configure/install split https://review.openstack.org/25842 | 23:45 |
| marun | arosen: I think we can manage that. They've been adding support for hacking checks in nova and I think quantum can just lift them. | 23:45 |
| arosen | marun: yup, probably | 23:45 |
| marun | arosen: As per the blog post, much of the quantum testing that I've seen is about testing interactions rather than testing state. | 23:46 |
| marun | arosen: this is the easy way to do things, since how else to mock out stuff that one doesn't actually want to touch in a test (like ip, route, etc) | 23:46 |
| marun | arosen: but I'm thinking it might actually be preferable to model the commands (or at least the elements that we are interested in) directly, so state could be captured and evaluated. | 23:47 |
| marun | arosen: The idea would be that one could ask of the ip fake - hey, did that device state change as I expected? | 23:47 |
| marun | arosen: But the logic wouldn't have to appear both in the code and in the test - it could be encapsulated instead. | 23:48 |
| marun | arosen: just food for though, you have more experience with this than I. | 23:48 |
| arosen | marun: hang tight reading this blog now. | 23:48 |
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| arosen | marun: I'd say a lot of the testing is state testing especially in all the test's that are around the db stuff. | 23:54 |
| arosen | marun: I've be curious see an implementation of how you would do that for the patch we are talking about. | 23:54 |
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| arosen | marun: under the hood system('ifconfig blah blah ') is going to be called how do we check for that? | 23:54 |
| marun | arosen: it would be encapsulated | 23:55 |
| marun | arosen: ifconfig would become an object, it's methods could update the system or, for testing, hold internal state instead. | 23:56 |
| arosen | marun: Also I'd say that there is already code coverage that does state testing for the methods that i'm calling i.e: netns.execute*( | 23:56 |
| marun | arosen: I'm not saying it's not being done, I'm suggesting there's an easier way to do it. | 23:56 |
| marun | arosen: having to replicate the commands being executed in the code and the tests is the hard way | 23:57 |
| arosen | marun: gotcha so i guess the issue is we dont' have a class NetworkInterface() where we can call route add etc on and then check on that instead. | 23:58 |
| arosen | Is that more of what you are proposing? | 23:58 |
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