openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/horizon: Bump version to 2013.2. https://review.openstack.org/24844 | 00:00 |
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openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/quantum: Add bulking support for Cisco plugin https://review.openstack.org/22470 | 00:00 |
openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/nova: Fix missing argument to QemuImageInfo https://review.openstack.org/24839 | 00:00 |
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openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/tempest: Add bug number for skips in CLI tests. https://review.openstack.org/24814 | 01:37 |
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openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/nova: Imported Translations from Transifex https://review.openstack.org/24618 | 02:26 |
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openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/nova: fix add-fixed-ip with quantum https://review.openstack.org/24852 | 02:34 |
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zul | jgriffith: whats up | 02:57 |
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openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/keystone: Correct spacing in warning msg https://review.openstack.org/24868 | 03:05 |
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openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/nova: Add missing tests for db.virtual_interface_* methods https://review.openstack.org/24606 | 03:22 |
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jgriffith | zul: still around? | 03:54 |
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openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/cinder: remove cinder-rtstool because of rtslib dep https://review.openstack.org/24815 | 04:33 |
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openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/cinder: Allow snapshot_delete for NFS/GlusterFS drivers https://review.openstack.org/24651 | 04:34 |
openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/cinder: Fix Storwize/SVC LUN allocation with holes. https://review.openstack.org/24761 | 04:35 |
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openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/nova: Update the network info when using quantum. https://review.openstack.org/24845 | 06:00 |
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openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/quantum: Imported Translations from Transifex https://review.openstack.org/24859 | 06:48 |
openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/nova: Refactor db.service_destroy and db.service_update methods https://review.openstack.org/24849 | 06:48 |
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sgran | hi | 08:16 |
sgran | can someone take a look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/23256/ ? | 08:16 |
sgran | I'm not looking for a merge, I'm just confused about the failure | 08:16 |
sgran | http://logs.openstack.org/23256/6/check/gate-nova-python26/18988 | 08:17 |
sgran | is this a known failure case? | 08:17 |
sgran | (I'm waiting for the merge window to reopen, and periodically rebasing to keep the delta minimal) | 08:19 |
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openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/keystone: Validate domains unconditionally (bug 1130236) https://review.openstack.org/24813 | 08:26 |
uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1130236 in keystone "Domains are not validated on authentication" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1130236 | 08:26 |
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henrynash | ttx: you there? | 10:00 |
ttx | henrynash: I am | 10:00 |
henrynash | morning! have we cut the keystone rc1 yet? | 10:00 |
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ttx | henrynash: no | 10:02 |
ttx | let me look | 10:02 |
ttx | Two bugs still in progress | 10:03 |
ttx | https://launchpad.net/keystone/+milestone/grizzly-rc1 | 10:03 |
henrynash | ttx: ok, just checking since an approved change of mine was hung up last night, but merged this moring | 10:03 |
henrynash | ttx: so I just approved the first of those: Bug 1157430 | 10:04 |
uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1157430 in keystone "V3 V2 token intermix should not allowed for non-default domain" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1157430 | 10:04 |
ttx | Blokcing on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/24701/ now | 10:04 |
ttx | henrynash: should be able to cut in ~ 5 hours | 10:04 |
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ttx | when the US crew wakes up | 10:04 |
koolhead17 | ttx: sounds like busy day for you :) | 10:04 |
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henrynash | ttx: Ok, I just pushed in a minor doc update to the identity api as well (not sure if we included that api doc in "the cut") | 10:05 |
ttx | koolhead17: not that much. The process is getting quite streamlined those days | 10:05 |
ttx | henrynash: anything that hits master before the version bump will be in | 10:05 |
koolhead17 | sounds good :) | 10:05 |
henrynash | ttx:. ok, thx | 10:06 |
ttx | henrynash: though identity-api is a different repo | 10:06 |
henrynash | ttx: that's true | 10:06 |
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openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/keystone: Prohibit V3 V2 token intermix for resource in non-default domain (bug 1157430) https://review.openstack.org/24869 | 10:23 |
uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1157430 in keystone "V3 V2 token intermix should not allowed for non-default domain" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1157430 | 10:23 |
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openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/ceilometer: Switch to python-keystoneclient 0.2.3. https://review.openstack.org/24755 | 10:39 |
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openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/ceilometer: Set the default_log_levels to include keystoneclient https://review.openstack.org/24285 | 10:58 |
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openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/ceilometer: remove unused dependencies https://review.openstack.org/24424 | 10:58 |
gabrielcw_ | Hi, anobody here knows about regions from keystone? | 10:59 |
gabrielcw_ | In fact, i'm tinkering with keystone regions and having two endpoints for a service, I would like to choose one of them by its region. For example when running nova boot I want to choose regionX endpoint set in keystone | 10:59 |
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zykes- | ls | 11:11 |
zykes- | clear | 11:11 |
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garyk | maroh: ping | 11:30 |
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vkmc | Hi all, do somebody know which license applies when a software is double licensed? Both? | 12:14 |
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vkmc | I'm trying to add a library and I'm not sure how to proceed... I know OpenStack uses ALv2, and read that it's compatible with MIT licences... but this library I want to add has both MIT and GPL licenses | 12:15 |
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dims | vkmc, are you fixing an openstack bug or adding a feature for one of the openstack projects? | 12:17 |
vkmc | dims, Fixing an OpenStack bug that requires adding an external lib | 12:18 |
dims | vkmc, then the first step is to ask on openstack-dev if a new dependency is acceptable. some of the distro folks don't like adding new dependencies. when you write the email you can ask both if the dependency is ok and ask for guidance on the licensing question | 12:20 |
dims | i am curious which library is this? | 12:20 |
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vkmc | dims, Sounds good to me :) I was following an already opened thread about licensing in openstack-dev list | 12:25 |
vkmc | dims, It's for this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/+bug/1102448, it's a JavaScript datepicker what I'm trying to add | 12:26 |
uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1102448 in horizon "Query a range of time for Usage Summary" [Low,In progress] | 12:26 |
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dims | vkmc, y that case is a little different as they have just AGPLv3. with this there may be leeway to consider MIT | 12:40 |
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vkmc | dims, I see | 12:44 |
vkmc | dims, Well, I will follow your pointers and ask about this dependency | 12:44 |
vkmc | dims, Thanks a lot :) | 12:44 |
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rushiagr | do anyone have any idea what is the difference between tempest and gate tests? | 13:22 |
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ttx | rushiagr: gate tests include the tempest test suite | 13:30 |
jgallard | rushiagr, from my knowledge tempest is for running the tests whereas gate tests are the infra for created the VM in which the tempest test will run | 13:30 |
rushiagr | ttx: jgallard: so if I'm adding a new feature, I should concentrate on writing the tempest tests only | 13:31 |
rushiagr | and there is no such thing as writing gate tests | 13:32 |
rushiagr | right? | 13:32 |
ttx | rushiagr: yes | 13:32 |
jgallard | yes | 13:32 |
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rushiagr | okay, cool | 13:33 |
rushiagr | thanks | 13:34 |
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crazed | LDAP add: dn=cn=default,ou=Domains,dc=openstack,dc=org, attrs=[('objectClass', ['groupOfNames']), ('enabled', ['TRUE']), ('description', ['Owns users and tenants (i.e. projects) available on Identity API v2.']), ('ou', ['Default']), ('member', ['cn=dumb,dc=nonexistent'])] | 13:51 |
crazed | damn it, back to that problem | 13:51 |
crazed | seems we need that emulated stuff for domains | 13:52 |
crazed | and probably groups | 13:52 |
crazed | ayoung: ^ | 13:53 |
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crazed | i filed a bug report for now https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/1157727 | 14:00 |
uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1157727 in keystone "ldap backend fails to work with enabled attributes on domains and groups" [Undecided,New] | 14:00 |
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henrynash | ttx: There are a couple of bugs on keystone that we have not fixed for Grizzly that have a potential security impact (not terrible, since otherwise we would have fixed them)…what is the process for making sure we include/issue them as a security notice? | 14:00 |
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ttx | henrynash: you can subscribe "openstack-vuln-mgmt" to them and we'll assess what we should do with them. | 14:01 |
henrynash | ttx: Ok, thx | 14:01 |
ttx | henrynash: generally they are either recognized as an exploitable vulnerability and pushed through the process... or not. | 14:01 |
ttx | no real middle ground | 14:02 |
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ayoung | crazed, "emulated stuff"? | 14:09 |
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ayoung | You mean https://review.openstack.org/#/c/24555/ ? | 14:09 |
ayoung | crazed, can you write a unit test that shows this? | 14:11 |
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crazed | ayoung: sorry, no when we added domains/groups they have the idea of being enabled, so they try to add an enabled: TRUE attribute to the domain/group OUs | 14:32 |
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crazed | tenants and users worked around this since there is no real ldap standard for "enabled" | 14:33 |
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dtroyer | sdague: hey, take 2…sorry I ran off last night…a non-maskable interrupt occurred | 14:37 |
sdague | dtroyer: no worries | 14:38 |
sdague | what's up? | 14:38 |
dtroyer | sdague: could you have a look at https://review.openstack.org/24831 for me? it's what will finally let https://review.openstack.org/#/c/23148/ run under quantum | 14:38 |
sdague | sure, will do | 14:38 |
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dtroyer | thanks | 14:39 |
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sdague | give me about 15 and I'll get through it | 14:42 |
dtroyer | np, thanks | 14:42 |
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sdague | dtroyer: lgtm | 14:48 |
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openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/cinder: Use OpenStack common project requires. https://review.openstack.org/24841 | 14:55 |
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openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/cinder: Rename cinder-rtstool to rtstool https://review.openstack.org/24840 | 15:02 |
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openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/oslo-incubator: clarify --log-file comments https://review.openstack.org/24889 | 15:14 |
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openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/oslo-incubator: Removes unused imports in the tests module https://review.openstack.org/24881 | 15:15 |
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vishy | some light reading if people get bored: http://vish.everyone.me/python-is-slow | 15:20 |
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openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-dev/devstack: Force Quantum processes to run in a subshell https://review.openstack.org/24831 | 15:24 |
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dolphm | markmc: totally reworked this patch this morning -- see commit message https://review.openstack.org/#/c/24701/ | 15:25 |
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markmc | dolphm, cool, will look - thanks | 15:28 |
dolphm | markmc: appreciated! | 15:29 |
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dolphm | gyee: henrynash: ayoung: this is our last release blocker; it works in devstack w/ nova and i included a test to reproduce which needs to be run in isolation; i'd like markmc's upvote before we merge it though https://review.openstack.org/#/c/24701/ | 15:50 |
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gyee | dolphm, looking ... | 15:51 |
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openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/nova: Set version to 2013.2 https://review.openstack.org/24908 | 16:00 |
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gyee | dolphm, option registration doesn't happen till keystone/config is import right? | 16:03 |
gyee | imported | 16:04 |
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henrynash | dolphm: …and the change to exceptions for AuthPlugins….could you just explain why that is needed? | 16:05 |
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gyee | henrynash, see his comments on patch 2 | 16:08 |
henrynash | gyee: ok. looking | 16:08 |
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henrynash | gyee: ah, ok, thx | 16:09 |
henrynash | dolphm: ok, cancel that question | 16:10 |
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termie | ayoung: how'd it go on project Trusts Extension? | 16:13 |
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gyee | dolphm, need your input on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/24401/ | 16:36 |
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openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/swift: fix stupid bug with bulk delete max items https://review.openstack.org/24810 | 16:42 |
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sstent | is there any recommended way of migrating from auto_assign_floating_ip to manual assignment? | 16:42 |
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ttx | dolphm: looks like you're getting very close to Keystone RC1 now | 16:43 |
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ttx | dolphm: When you're happy with the state of master (and before the end of your day) you can push a 2013.2 version bump (in setup.py) to master | 16:44 |
ttx | dolphm: Will cut your grizzly release branch from the previous commit | 16:44 |
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dolphm | ttx: just push a signed tag? | 16:44 |
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ttx | dolphm: no, s/2013.1/2013.2/ in setup.py | 16:45 |
dolphm | gyee: will do | 16:45 |
dolphm | ttx: ah, that's easy | 16:45 |
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ttx | dolphm: that opens havana development on master, basically | 16:45 |
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openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-dev/devstack: Enable multi-agent support https://review.openstack.org/24763 | 16:46 |
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termie | ayoung: i suppose i can make up a change for the move myself | 16:51 |
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sgran | I'm trying to profile nova-api in folsom. It's taking about 8 seconds to do a metadata lookup, which seems like a lot to me | 16:53 |
sgran | I can see by printf debugging that I can shave 2 seconds off of that by saving and reusing a quantum client in nova/network/quantumv2/api.py (a new client is created in each method) | 16:54 |
sgran | why is it created fresh in each method right now, as opposed to having something like self.qclient = ... ? | 16:55 |
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sgran | is it that 'context' will change between invocations? | 16:56 |
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dolphm | ayoung: henrynash: topol: https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/1157727 | 17:06 |
uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1157727 in keystone "ldap backend fails to work with enabled attributes on domains and groups" [Undecided,New] | 17:06 |
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sdague | ttx: in the summit track for qa, we seem to be getting the "doesn't fit anywhere else" set of submissions | 17:14 |
dolphm | henrynash: was this fixed in your domain validation patch? https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/1154737 | 17:14 |
uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1154737 in keystone "credentials are not loading domain_id from token_data (loaded from token table)" [Undecided,New] | 17:14 |
sdague | is there any ability to open up a related projects or cross project track or something? | 17:14 |
ttx | sdague: there is an unconference room. You should reject them and point them to that | 17:15 |
henrynash | dolphm: loooking | 17:15 |
openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/python-keystoneclient: Config value for revocation list timeout https://review.openstack.org/24796 | 17:15 |
sdague | ttx: ok, that's fine :) | 17:15 |
ttx | sdague: it's running all 4 days. it will be scheduled on-site. | 17:15 |
sdague | cool | 17:15 |
ttx | sdague: you can also try to send them my way to the Process track | 17:15 |
ttx | and I can reject them from there :) | 17:15 |
dolphm | henrynash: i'm a little confused on if this is an actual bug or just a concern that the code looks funky (and maybe just needs comments to explain what's going on) | 17:16 |
ttx | related projects -> unconference, definitely | 17:16 |
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ttx | sdague: cross-project -> Process, QA, Docs, Oslo or unconference | 17:16 |
henrynash | dolphm: thinking through it…but initial reaction is that this isn't a bug | 17:16 |
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topol | dolphm, we are looking at 1157727 now | 17:16 |
dolphm | topol: thank you, let me know if it should block release | 17:17 |
henrynash | dolphm: I think your comment is correct on the bug, I think the reportsr is confused by the different use of domain under the user auth component and domain in the scope component | 17:17 |
topol | dolphm, K. Will let you know | 17:17 |
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henrynash | dolphm: not sure why there are two user entries in the token, however | 17:18 |
dolphm | henrynash: alright, will mark as incomplete and close if we don't hear back | 17:18 |
sdague | ttx: Process == Infrastructure? for the purposes of tracks | 17:20 |
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ayoung | termie, I think Trusts are more fundamental than an Extension. | 17:29 |
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ayoung | termie, I've been thinking long and hard about this....what trusts are that makes them different, is they are a base level abstraction | 17:29 |
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ayoung | So, I would see other extensions being able to use the same concept, perhapes with different mechanisms. | 17:30 |
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ayoung | But trusts are a way of doing delegation, and nothing else in Keystone already supports that. | 17:30 |
ayoung | So it isn't just that Trusts needs access to core. | 17:30 |
ayoung | Its that Trusts need to be a core concept. | 17:30 |
harlowja | so a question for some keystone folks, i was seeing that users can actually be in tenants without any roles (at least in folsom), is this something we want to encourage, seems a little odd | 17:31 |
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ayoung | termie, lets assume for a moment that we were not talking about Keystone at all, but rather Kerberos. | 17:31 |
ayoung | Kerberos is also a solution to single sign on. | 17:32 |
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ayoung | Kerberos does not allow multiple mechanisms, just the Kerberos mechanisms | 17:32 |
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ayoung | Kerberos found that, for many operations and use cases, the existing abstractions/mechanisms were not sufficient. Those were delegation cases, where one service had to do something on behalf of another service, which was in turn operating on behalf of a user. The solution is Service For User To Proxy. Or S4U2Proxy. If you look at OAuth2, its whole reason for existance is to try and implement delegation. So Trusts, while they do h | 17:34 |
ayoung | ave a mechanism implicit in them, is much more than a mechanism. | 17:34 |
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ayoung | Ryan_Lane, can you chime in on https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/1157727 | 17:41 |
uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1157727 in keystone "ldap backend fails to work with enabled attributes on domains and groups" [Undecided,New] | 17:41 |
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termie | ayoung: how does that change its extension status? | 17:42 |
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termie | ayoung: (not implying agreement with your statement, but i also don't see how that affects whether it should be an extension) | 17:42 |
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spzala | crazed: Hi! | 17:50 |
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termie | ayoung: (also, never talk about oauth2 when people talk about oauth, they are unrelated) | 17:55 |
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openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-dev/devstack: Add run_process() to start services without screen https://review.openstack.org/23148 | 18:10 |
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ayoung | termie, quite simple. A core concept should not be an extension. | 18:14 |
termie | ayoung: it is not the way to implement the concept | 18:15 |
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openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/cinder: Add snapshots to the volume usage audit report https://review.openstack.org/24806 | 18:23 |
termie | ayoung: alright, from another perspective: you are adding a new feature, one specifically for third-party auth delegation that doesn't _need_ to share any code with the core | 18:23 |
termie | ayoung: separation of concerns would argue nicely for not messing with the existing api | 18:24 |
termie | ayoung: and, while you are at it, it should be using signed requests to get the new tokens, since it is a new feature anyway | 18:25 |
termie | ayoung: and if you are doing that, we have an existing spec defined that should be implemented instead of something newly defined | 18:27 |
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openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/swift: increase unit test coverage on account server https://review.openstack.org/24733 | 18:39 |
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ayoung | termie, "Existing spec?" | 18:40 |
termie | ayoung: oauth | 18:40 |
termie | ayoung: specifically exists to provide an authenticated third-party rights to access something on behalf of a user, they'll make a signed request to our api to get a scoped token | 18:41 |
termie | ayoung: they request an api token from the user for the roles they need, user says sure and hands em the token | 18:42 |
termie | ayoung: they later can use that token to get a standard keystone token scoped to the proper roles | 18:42 |
termie | ayoung: you get signed requests, a bunch of existing knowledge, libraries, gui design guidelines | 18:44 |
topol | dolphm, regarding 1157727. So here is what is happening, ideally you should be able to use enabled_emulation for Group and Domains but those classes did not include the emulation mixin class so right now you can use enabled for Group and Domains. the work around is to use the ignore attribute for these and then the test will work. Hmm not sure this is worth blocking a release since... | 18:45 |
topol | ...there is a work around | 18:45 |
topol | err cannot use enabled emulation for Group and domains | 18:46 |
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openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/quantum: Fix DB query returning ready devices in LoadBalancerCallbacks https://review.openstack.org/24768 | 18:46 |
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topol | dolphm, so sahdev knows how to fix this by adding the mixin to those classes and adding some corresponding values in the conf file. He will do this now and submit a patch. Up to you if you want to merge it in to RC or not | 18:49 |
spzala | I think we, brad and I, have got it .. I am going submit a patch | 18:49 |
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mjfork | is there any way to search *implemented* blueprints? | 18:51 |
mjfork | everytime I search, it appears to only search non-implemented on | 18:51 |
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jgriffith | annegentle: just noticed your comments on my docs patch, I'll have a look | 19:00 |
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annegentle | jgriffith: ok, good, git should sort it all out but wanted to ensure the doc bugs get fixed too | 19:01 |
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koolhead17 | mjfork, i think launchpad does gives you option of advance search not sure if its their 4 blueprints | 19:03 |
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jgriffith | annegentle: not too bad, just the troubleshooting doc | 19:08 |
jgriffith | annegentle: I removed all refs to nova-volume | 19:08 |
jgriffith | annegentle: since it's gone in G | 19:08 |
jgriffith | perhaps that was wrong? | 19:08 |
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jgriffith | annegentle: ohhh... hrmmmm | 19:09 |
annegentle | jgriffith: heh | 19:10 |
annegentle | jgriffith: yeah I did all that | 19:10 |
annegentle | jgriffith: and hoped to get it in first | 19:10 |
jgriffith | :) | 19:10 |
annegentle | jgriffith: so you could take it (timing should've been about right?) :) | 19:10 |
annegentle | jgriffith: but didn't want to clobber your efforts | 19:11 |
jgriffith | annegentle: yeah, worked out pretty good | 19:11 |
jgriffith | annegentle: so the only conflicts are block-storage-admin/troubleshoot-cinder.xml | 19:11 |
annegentle | jgriffith: ah ok | 19:11 |
jgriffith | annegentle: head still refs compute-admin, I'll change that and resub | 19:12 |
jgriffith | annegentle: should be ezpz | 19:12 |
annegentle | jgriffith: ohh right | 19:12 |
annegentle | jgriffith: you'll need a separate pom.xml too | 19:12 |
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jgriffith | annegentle: ummm... yeah, sure :) | 19:13 |
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annegentle | jgriffith: the compute admin one will work with a few file name changes | 19:13 |
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jgriffith | annegentle: k... https://review.openstack.org/#/c/24662/ | 19:20 |
jgriffith | annegentle: no idea if that pom is right :) | 19:20 |
jgriffith | annegentle: I'll be back in a bit to see if it's completely hosed or not :) | 19:20 |
annegentle | jgriffith: cool I'll test and review :) | 19:20 |
jgriffith | annegentle: thank you much! | 19:21 |
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sandeepr | i installed keystone rc1 on raring and keystone-all does not do anything | 19:30 |
sandeepr | any hint? | 19:30 |
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eglynn | ttx: is there any way to re-assign a proposed summit session from one track to another? | 19:46 |
eglynn | (the topic field doesn't appear to be editable ...) | 19:47 |
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dtroyer | sdague: me again…can you look at https://review.openstack.org/24615 for me? it's the first of a set of grenade-related changes, mostly just moving code around. | 20:07 |
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voliveirajr | Guys, someone can help me to understand some concepts? Im trying to setup a multinode environment but using only one keystone instance | 20:13 |
ayoung | termie, Sorry, day job got in the way there: had a meeting, and then had to drive back to the house.... | 20:14 |
sandeepr | hey ayoung - i'm still stuck with the keystone pki thing. could you please help? | 20:16 |
ayoung | So...the way that I see it, oauth is one mechanism, and certainly a popular one, for doing delegation. But it still needs server support. I wasn't aware that Keystone was built with an eye to oauth | 20:16 |
ayoung | sandeepr, sure, what are you seeing? | 20:17 |
sandeepr | ayoung, keystone token-get errors as Authorization Failed: HTTPConnectionPool(host='10.1.0.65', port=5000): Request timed out. (timeout=600.0) | 20:18 |
sandeepr | ayoung, for that matter all of the keystone commands | 20:18 |
ayoung | sandeepr, running from the CLI? | 20:18 |
sandeepr | ayoung, yes | 20:18 |
ayoung | And firewall is open on port 5000? | 20:18 |
sandeepr | this is a fresh install grizzly rc1 on raring | 20:18 |
sandeepr | yes open | 20:19 |
sandeepr | if i switch to token_format - UUID | 20:19 |
sandeepr | things start to work | 20:19 |
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ayoung | sandeepr, and there is nothing telling in the Keystone log? | 20:21 |
ayoung | Is this devstack? | 20:21 |
sandeepr | ayoung, nothing in the log, its blank. no this is manual install | 20:21 |
sandeepr | from the ppa trunk repo | 20:21 |
ayoung | sandeepr, are you sure Keystone is even running? | 20:22 |
sandeepr | ayoung, yes keystone is running, check http://paste.openstack.org/show/34173/ for the ssl and signing portion in keystone conf | 20:24 |
sandeepr | i guess i did not miss anything | 20:24 |
ayoung | sandeepr, request timed out means that Keystone is not responding. | 20:25 |
sandeepr | this is what i have done so far, install raring, add ppa repo, install mysql, install keystone, create mysql db for keystone | 20:25 |
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sandeepr | modify keystone.conf | 20:25 |
sandeepr | and problem is seen | 20:25 |
sdague | dtroyer: sure, looking now | 20:26 |
sandeepr | ayoung, did i missi anything in between? | 20:26 |
ayoung | sandeepr, this is a development set up issue. You need a method to develope and debug yourself. I suggest running Keystone in a debugger, or carnking up the logging | 20:26 |
ayoung | sandeepr, no idea, I don;t run that way | 20:26 |
sdague | dtroyer: when are you thinking about cutting devstack stable? | 20:27 |
ayoung | You should be getting a log from the initial request | 20:27 |
sandeepr | ayoung, how do you run it? | 20:27 |
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sandeepr | devstack? | 20:28 |
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ayoung | sandeepr, aside from devstack, I tend to use Eclipse PyDev for integrated debugging, but iron python is a pretty good tool for basic dev | 20:28 |
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topol | ayoung, will you have a fix merged for 1155234? sahdev is trying to do a patch for 1157727 but I think he needs 1155234 to make progress | 20:29 |
kpavel | Hi, can anybody review change i made? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/24600/ | 20:29 |
sandeepr | ayoung, is this supposed to work the way i'm doing? | 20:29 |
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ayoung | topol, links would speed up this conversation...let me check | 20:29 |
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topol | https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/1155234 | 20:30 |
uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1155234 in keystone "emulated ldap enabled improperly handles updates" [Undecided,In progress] | 20:30 |
dtroyer | sdague: we usually do stable a few days after the releases occur. | 20:32 |
ayoung | topol, I uploaded a variation of the original that just had the two skipped tests removed. | 20:33 |
ayoung | topol, give it a code review | 20:33 |
ayoung | I am ok with the patch as is | 20:34 |
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topol | ayoung, code looks good. gave it a +1 | 20:39 |
ayoung | topol, cool. gyee care to put the coup de grace on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/24555/ ? | 20:40 |
gyee | ayoung, pulled the trigger | 20:41 |
topol | dtroyer, any chance you could look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/24764/ Its an easy one | 20:42 |
dtroyer | topol: I didn't see a response to sdague's question re licensing | 20:43 |
topol | fixed that, found a way to do with out shipping the schemas | 20:44 |
dtroyer | topol: gotcha…+2 | 20:45 |
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jbresnah | can any glance folks tell me if the list of valid options to an a give REST API call are well defined anywhere? | 20:49 |
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eglynn | jbresnah: this any use to you? http://api.openstack.org/api-ref.html | 20:51 |
eglynn | jbresnah: (scroll down to the Image section and click on details) | 20:51 |
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jbresnah | eglynn, yeah that seems great | 20:52 |
eglynn | cool | 20:52 |
topol | dtroyer, thanks | 20:52 |
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jbresnah | eglynn, I think one of the tests is making an invalid call based on that | 20:55 |
jbresnah | eglynn: https://github.com/openstack/glance/blob/master/glance/tests/functional/v2/test_images.py#L487 | 20:55 |
jbresnah | it sends in ping=pong | 20:55 |
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jbresnah | but ping is not a listed option | 20:56 |
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topol | ayoung, so sahdev's patch now works after applying https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/1155234 how does he submit his patch and state that it depends on yours? | 20:57 |
uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1155234 in keystone "emulated ldap enabled improperly handles updates" [Undecided,In progress] | 20:57 |
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annegentle | jgriffith: ok, reviewed and patched https://review.openstack.org/24662 let's see what others think too | 20:57 |
eglynn | jbresnah: hmmm, that's a v2 test, but the api docco was v1 only IIRC ... | 20:57 |
eglynn | jbresnah: but yeah, it does look wrong ... | 20:58 |
ayoung | topol, if he rebases on top of my patch in his local git repo and does a git review, Gerrit will accept it as a dependency. Just don't modify my patch in any way, or it will delay the merger | 20:58 |
jgriffith | annegentle: ahh... cool, Thanks! | 20:58 |
ayoung | topol, so he should do | 20:58 |
jbresnah | eglynn, oh yes i see that is v1 | 20:58 |
jbresnah | eglynn, is there v2 doc around? | 20:58 |
ayoung | git fetch https://sahdev@review.openstack.org/openstack/keystone refs/changes/55/24555/2 && git checkout FETCH_HEAD | 20:58 |
ayoung | and name that branch | 20:59 |
ayoung | then git cherry-pick his commit on top of it | 20:59 |
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openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/nova: Enable tox use of site-packages for libvirt. https://review.openstack.org/21491 | 20:59 |
openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/python-novaclient: Make os-services API extensions consistent with Nova https://review.openstack.org/24158 | 21:00 |
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voliveirajr | Hi, someone knows how to configure a single keystone instance for a multiple regions? each region with your kvm host with nova | 21:00 |
topol | ayoung, so can he do a git fetch https://review.openstack.org/openstack/keystone refs/changes/55/24555/2 && git checkout FETCH_HEAD && git checkout -b hisbranch and then just put his stuff in on that or will that not work? | 21:02 |
eglynn | jbresnah: well the closest I can find off-hand is this draft of the v2 API design doc ... https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jPdgmQUzTuSt9iqcgPy74fbkzafCvqfQpvzRhwf2Kic/edit | 21:02 |
ayoung | topol, I think that is what I just said. | 21:02 |
ayoung | and by "put his stuff on top" I would do git cherry-pick his-old-commit | 21:03 |
topol | ayoung, he never has committed this yet | 21:03 |
ayoung | topol, he should have commited it into his local git repo | 21:03 |
ayoung | don't fear the git | 21:04 |
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jbresnah | eglynn, that does not seem to have the list as well defined | 21:06 |
termie | ayoung: doh, now i missed all yoru comments because i didn't get the notification ding :p reading now | 21:06 |
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jbresnah | eglynn, perhaps i will open up a bug and allow people to comment there | 21:06 |
termie | ayoung: okay, only seems like one comment | 21:07 |
ayoung | termie, no problem | 21:07 |
ayoung | yeah, I was waiting for you | 21:07 |
eglynn | jbresnah: yes that's fair enough, users shouldn't be reduced to reading the code to find that kind of thing out | 21:07 |
termie | ayoung: server support, yes, happily enough as an extension for now | 21:07 |
ayoung | termie, so, lets split out oatuh, which is a mechanism for delegation, from Trusts, which is a contract for delegation | 21:07 |
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jbresnah | eglynn: I became interested because I passed in 'is_public=True' to v2 and it changed the behavior of the service | 21:08 |
ayoung | You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means. | 21:08 |
jbresnah | i later found out that was not a valid parameter | 21:08 |
jbresnah | so i wanted to throw an error when invalid parameters appeared | 21:08 |
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termie | ayoung: it is still an extension, if you would like to call the contract for access to scoped tokens "trusts" that can be negotiable, but it can still easily be supported by the extensions framework | 21:09 |
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termie | ayoung: the scope of the feature becomes very obvious when using oauth, and since there isn't much of a point in continuing along the lines of the existing implementation | 21:10 |
termie | ayoung: it should be pulled out and turned into one based on oauth | 21:10 |
termie | ayoung: as an extension | 21:10 |
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ayoung | termie, leave oauth out of it. I see that as a potential approach, but not necessarily the right one. | 21:14 |
ayoung | termie, even the current tokens then should be an extension | 21:14 |
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termie | ayoung: that is needless slippery sloping | 21:14 |
ayoung | No it is not | 21:15 |
termie | ayoung: this is new code, it is additive | 21:15 |
ayoung | the current token mechanism is something we want to eventually deprecate. Bearer tokens are not the long term solution | 21:15 |
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ayoung | But what they represent now is core behavior: | 21:15 |
termie | ayoung: they represent the existing api | 21:15 |
ayoung | single sign on, and verification of authN and Z | 21:15 |
ayoung | termie, they are a single snapshot in time. | 21:16 |
ttx | eglynn: yes there is | 21:16 |
ayoung | nothing about tokens is any more core than trusts | 21:16 |
ayoung | would you be happier if I called them delegations? | 21:16 |
ttx | eglynn: you can ask the topic lead to switch it for you. Or i can do it for you | 21:16 |
ttx | sdague: yes | 21:16 |
ayoung | Forget the mechanism for a moment | 21:17 |
ttx | sdague: "Help" at he bottom of hte screen for details | 21:17 |
ayoung | to create a trusts has a separate set of URLs from tokens etc. | 21:17 |
termie | ayoung: i owuld be happier if you added new features as extensions | 21:17 |
ayoung | They are not meant to be extensions to the existing behavior. They are a new contract, one that would be usable regardless of the auth mechanism used in the future. | 21:18 |
termie | ayoung: we aren't turning the whole thing into extensions | 21:18 |
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zykes- | anyone care to help out a poor sole with a change in moniker ? | 21:23 |
zykes- | ayoung: you think the auth impl will change during havana ? | 21:23 |
ayoung | termie, I can see the argument for the V2 token API. | 21:23 |
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termie | ayoung: it is not the correct implementation adam | 21:24 |
ayoung | termie, I think that is the part you are saying should be an extension, right? Where you actually get a token? | 21:24 |
zykes- | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/23265/4/moniker/__init__.py < the rpc.set_defaults() on the bottom should be placed in a diff place because of a failing oslo.config, clues for this? | 21:24 |
ayoung | termie, or are you saying the CRUD operations for managing tokens should also be in extensions | 21:25 |
termie | ayoung: did you look at oauth before you wrote this? | 21:25 |
termie | ayoung: have you looked through it in-depth since? | 21:26 |
termie | ayoung: do you think your original approach is going to work in the long term? | 21:26 |
termie | ayoung: do you think it is going to work with oauth? | 21:26 |
termie | ayoung: you made something up, it isn't the right thing and if we move it to an extension we will not have the technical debt in core | 21:27 |
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termie | ayoung: then we can experiment on it and get it right | 21:27 |
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termie | ayoung: people can still use extensions | 21:27 |
termie | ayoung: they are still available to keystone | 21:27 |
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termie | ayoung: everything that hits core is something we have to support forever | 21:28 |
termie | ayoung: there is already too much in it, yes | 21:28 |
termie | ayoung: and this is another thing that should not be init | 21:29 |
termie | ayoung: when possible we should add new features as extensions and see how they are used before making them something we have tos upport forever | 21:29 |
ayoung | oauth is solving a different problem. That is delegation between two distinct systems. However...I think that is not your main concern. | 21:29 |
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termie | ayoung: you are wrong | 21:29 |
termie | ayoung: it is designed for exactly your use case | 21:29 |
termie | ayoung: the system you are authenticating to is keystone | 21:30 |
termie | ayoung: and you get another token afterwards | 21:30 |
termie | ayoung: of the legacy style | 21:30 |
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ayoung | termie, Ok...I think you are wrong there, and I think that OAuth is a pretty bad idea in general. I like the concept of extensions being separate from core being place, but I don't think that is actually how things will work out. We need a central mechanism for specifying delegation policy that the end systems can build on, not that "hey maybe this thing will stick around." | 21:34 |
termie | ayoung: what will be the harm of it being an extension? | 21:35 |
ayoung | I am not sure what you mean by "DOn't mention Oauth and Oauth2" togetehr, as it sounds like the 2 is an attempt to fix the mistakes of 1 | 21:36 |
openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-dev/devstack: Mova nova configuration initialization https://review.openstack.org/24615 | 21:36 |
openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/keystone: Properly handle emulated ldap enablement https://review.openstack.org/24555 | 21:36 |
termie | ayoung: that is certainly not the case, 2 is a bearer token system | 21:36 |
ayoung | so I agree that is bad | 21:36 |
termie | ayoung: 1 is in extensive use across the internet | 21:36 |
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ayoung | but Oauth 1 has its own issues....and is not the paragon I would hold up for emulation | 21:36 |
termie | ayoung: what issues are those? | 21:37 |
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ladquin | maurosr: ping? | 21:39 |
ayoung | termie, besides redirects? | 21:39 |
termie | ayoung: dude, a redirect is in a web browser, we aren't even talking about web interfaces | 21:40 |
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ayoung | understood, but it is the mechanism with which oauth is built on | 21:40 |
termie | ayoung: no it isn't | 21:40 |
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openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/tempest: Remove skips from bugs marked as fixed. https://review.openstack.org/24909 | 21:41 |
ayoung | termie, I am trying to not recreate all of the arguments, and post a link, but I can't find it due to all the noise from people complaining about auth2....sorry for the delay | 21:41 |
termie | ayoung: an authenticated third party requests a request token and hands it to the user, the user tells the service yeah this is a good token, then tells the third party, alright you're cool to use my bits, the third-party then gets their access token, they will then use that access token in the future to get scoped tokens from keystone | 21:42 |
termie | ayoung: there is no web browser required in any of that process | 21:43 |
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ayoung | termie, and when that user is not available to make that decision? What about when this needs to happen 2 months from now? When there server is failing in the middle of the night? | 21:43 |
termie | ayoung: that interaction happens ONCE | 21:43 |
ayoung | right, and gets stored somewhere | 21:43 |
ayoung | that is what the trusts are | 21:43 |
termie | ayoung: all further interactions are the service requesting normal tokens | 21:44 |
termie | ayoung: yes! | 21:44 |
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termie | ayoung: i am telling you it solves your use case | 21:44 |
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termie | ayoung: and is an existing, respected, widely used, widely supported format | 21:45 |
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ayoung | termie, just to be clear, you are saying we do oauth, 1 not 2, for establishing the initial set up of delegation of privledges and also add an additional set of urls that support oauth for translating a token for a user plus oauth equivalent of a trust ID to get another token, and that all of this should be extensions. | 21:48 |
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termie | ayoung: sure | 21:48 |
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termie | ayoung: (based on good faith interpretation of your grammatical choices) | 21:49 |
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ladquin | sdague, you around? | 21:49 |
ayoung | heh | 21:49 |
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termie | ayoung: first step being pull this thing out of core and make it an extension | 21:50 |
termie | ayoung: i can probably be convinced to write the oauth example of it and they can be compared | 21:50 |
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ayoung | termie, so the tokens in oauth 1 are not bearer tokens? | 21:51 |
ayoung | that was not my understanding | 21:52 |
spzala | ayoung: thank you so much for the quick fix for 1155234. I have committed my changes, #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/24936/ Please review as you get chance. | 21:53 |
ayoung | termie, so in real workflow, it would be something like "simulate creating a virtual machine from an image" and the server would figure out what permissions you need to do that, and create a mock token, which the user would then send that token to the keystone server, and that is what would establish the guidlines for the token that the service user would get later? | 21:55 |
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termie | ayoung: no they are not, there is a token and a secret, and it also supports RSA it turns out | 21:57 |
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termie | ayoung: (well, i always knew it supported rsa, more like btw) | 21:58 |
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termie | ayoung: work flow, you have a third-party service, likely run by a company, but possibly just that you are running yourself, you give it a consumer key and consumer secret to identify it as whoever it is to your system | 21:59 |
termie | ayoung: then, you want to go set it up for your user | 21:59 |
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termie | ayoung: it calls up keystone to create a request token, authenticated with its consumer key/secret (signed, not passed over the wire) | 22:00 |
termie | ayoung: asking for whichever roles it needs | 22:00 |
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termie | ayoung: the user tells keystone, yup, i'm okay with that and either hands the token key and secret to the third party or just tells the third party that it completed the task | 22:01 |
termie | ayoung: s/task/authorization/ | 22:01 |
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termie | ayoung: from then on, the third-party will make a signed request to keystone.com/get_me_a_token_for_this and is given a new token | 22:02 |
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ayoung | termie, so the major difference between this and Trusts, ignoring the actual protocol, is that the user is given a notification somehow "THis is what you need to delegate to my ervice in order for me to operate on your behalf" and the user then Oks it? | 22:03 |
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termie | ayoung: i would have assumed you would have to do that in your Trusts model as well, how else does the user know what is happening? | 22:04 |
ayoung | Whereas with trusts, all of that is on the user to generate the information based one out of band information | 22:05 |
ayoung | sorry, that does n't parse, let me try again | 22:05 |
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termie | ayoung: parsed to me | 22:05 |
ayoung | With trusts, we were not going that far | 22:05 |
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ayoung | we were going for stage one, which was the ability to just create the delegation. | 22:06 |
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ayoung | without the remote service having to participate | 22:07 |
termie | ayoung: you can build all the stuff on one side if you want, say "make an access token with these qualities for htis access token" but it obviously isn't as easy to use as the oauth model | 22:07 |
termie | replace second use of acess token with consumer key | 22:07 |
ayoung | termie, right | 22:07 |
ayoung | So, forget about the mechanism for communicating with the outside world for a moment. What you have at the core is an agreement for delegation. That needs to be persisted, and it needs to be retrieved and ched. Even if we use oauth, or any other delegation mechanism, we would still need to persist that data. | 22:09 |
ayoung | Right? | 22:10 |
ayoung | Forget even it being consumed to start with | 22:10 |
termie | ayoung: we need to store authentication for a third-party, and we need to store authorization for that third-party to a specific mapping of user/rules/etc | 22:11 |
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ayoung | so trusts are just that second piece "authorization for that third-party to a specific mapping of user/rules/etc" | 22:12 |
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termie | ayoung: i understnad what you are trying to do with trusts, that is why i suggested oauth | 22:13 |
termie | ayoung: yes your concept of trusts is largely similar to an access token / access secret in the oauth world | 22:13 |
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termie | ayoung: (which is easier to explain because they are already widely understood terms) | 22:13 |
openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/nova: Add placeholder migrations to allow backports. https://review.openstack.org/23759 | 22:14 |
ayoung | termie, right, I am not disagreeing with you in principal | 22:14 |
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ayoung | termie, well, the term access token already has a meaning in Keystone. As for secret, that is part of the authentication world. But what we are talking about here is the process of delegation, which has its own terminology | 22:15 |
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ayoung | Personally, I find trustor and trustee about as clear of terms as we can find in this realm | 22:15 |
termie | ayoung: that is why i added "in the oauth world" to the end of the sentence | 22:16 |
termie | ayoung: don't matter | 22:16 |
termie | ayoung: the names are baked into the spec so they will be oauth_access_token or whantot | 22:16 |
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ayoung | OK, so there are three issues here. One, should the token creation via trusts be moved to extension. Two, should the crud for trusts be moved to extensions. Three, should we adopt oauth as the dlegation mechanism | 22:17 |
termie | yes on all counts | 22:18 |
termie | SOLVED | 22:18 |
ayoung | And the argument is that by being in Extensions, we avoid committing to supporting these mechanisms in the future | 22:18 |
ayoung | As they still need experimentation to check that we have them correct. | 22:19 |
termie | we avoid committing to accidental implicit assumptions | 22:19 |
termie | based on implementation | 22:19 |
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ayoung | termie, I don't agree that we can avoid supporting trusts regardless of whether they are in extension or not: it depends on whether people build on them or not. But this isn't my decision now. Regardless of what I say, you will have to convince dolphm who is the PTL, and convince ttx who is the release manager, that, at this point, it would be in the projects best interest to make this change. | 22:22 |
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termie | ayoung: and what do _you_ think? | 22:23 |
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termie | ayoung: (still thinking or missed the message/otehrwise occupied) | 22:38 |
ayoung | termie, actually, I am at home and got dragged up to dinner.... | 22:38 |
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termie | ayoung: kk, well i can wait | 22:39 |
termie | ayoung: i need to eat some late lunch anyway | 22:39 |
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ayoung | I'm on kid duty at the moment. I think that we need delegation. extension or not is irrelevant. oauth is nice to have, not need to have.... | 22:39 |
ayoung | Idon;t think the trusts impl rules out oauth in the future, and I would probably record oauth info in the same table if we did integrate it | 22:40 |
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ayoung | have to head... | 22:41 |
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16SAA5DSR | sandeepr: did you figure out your keystone-all issue? i didn't have a chance to reply earlier | 23:20 |
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dolphm | ayoung: thoughts? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/24936/1 | 23:21 |
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jgriffith | ewindisch: ping | 23:35 |
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ewindisch | hi | 23:35 |
jgriffith | ewindisch: hey | 23:35 |
jgriffith | ewindisch: just a quick question for my own benefit :) | 23:35 |
ewindisch | jgriffith: sure. | 23:35 |
jgriffith | ewindisch: so the pyzmq patch reminded me that I'm horribly out of touch with that whole effort | 23:36 |
jgriffith | ewindisch: is there anything documented via wiki etc that I can get caught up on? | 23:36 |
ewindisch | Not yet. I did start on a patch to the openstack docs / manual. I haven't pushed it yet. (It is in code review) | 23:36 |
jgriffith | ewindisch: ahh... ok, that works | 23:37 |
ewindisch | I'm also working on a blog post of "what is new in Oslo RPC for ZeroMQ in Grizzly" | 23:37 |
ewindisch | as well as a lightning talk for the summit | 23:37 |
jgriffith | ewindisch: oh, very cool | 23:37 |
ewindisch | finally….I'm doing a talk on Friday. Perhaps I can send you the deck? | 23:38 |
jgriffith | ewindisch: that would be great | 23:38 |
jgriffith | ewindisch: also I'll be sure to make the lightning talk in Portland | 23:38 |
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* ewindisch is afraid the next month will be nothing but writing talks, blog posts, and blueprints | 23:40 | |
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jgriffith | ewindisch: I feel for ya :) | 23:43 |
jgriffith | ewindisch: thanks for the info, drop me an email (I'll PM it even though evrybody probably has it) | 23:43 |
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dolphm | gyee: any last fixes for RC1? | 23:51 |
openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/keystone: Wrap config module and require manual setup (bug 1143998) https://review.openstack.org/24701 | 23:52 |
uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1143998 in keystone "nova-api crash - keystone.middleware.auth_token broken" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1143998 | 23:52 |
dolphm | gyee: ayoung: that's our last blocker ^ | 23:52 |
gyee | dolphm, I don't have any | 23:52 |
dolphm | gyee: this seems useful and pretty safe https://review.openstack.org/#/c/24936/ | 23:53 |
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gyee | dolphm, I agree | 23:54 |
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gyee | approved it | 23:55 |
dolphm | gyee: great, i'll make that the last patch | 23:55 |
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gyee | RC1 ftw! | 23:55 |
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dolphm | gyee: jenkins didn't like it lol | 23:56 |
gyee | ah, rebase | 23:56 |
dolphm | ah, it touched config | 23:56 |
dolphm | ah. | 23:56 |
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dolphm | gyee: done, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/24936/ | 23:59 |
dolphm | gyee: just had to move two new config options to keystone.common.config | 23:59 |
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