Thursday, 2013-01-17

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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/quantum: Update WebOb version to >=1.2  https://review.openstack.org/1985200:19
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/nova: enables admin to view instance fault "details"  https://review.openstack.org/1902400:19
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/python-keystoneclient: Blueprint memcache-protection: enable memcache value encryption/integrity check  https://review.openstack.org/1890901:14
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/quantum: Ensure that agents also set control_exchange  https://review.openstack.org/1982101:20
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mmaleskydoes anybody here have experience using the grizzly-trunk-testing PPA for ubuntu?01:32
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/python-openstackclient: Adds Glance API v2 support.  https://review.openstack.org/1972001:53
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/keystone: Test that you can undo & re-apply all migrations  https://review.openstack.org/1982606:19
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/quantum: Fixes inefficiency in quantum.api.v2.base._filters  https://review.openstack.org/1856807:31
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/quantum: Refactor hyperv plugin and agent.  https://review.openstack.org/1978107:44
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marcus_hey all, i am currently trying to follow the "building on horizon" tutorial to create a custom dashboard, I downloaded horizon, setup environment successfully, and run ./run_tests.sh -m startdash mydashboard; after that i have tried to create a panel using ./run_tests.sh -m startpanel flocking --dashboard=mydashboard --target=auto, but get an error message: Unknown command: '--dashboard=mydashboard', have someone an idea? many08:57
marcus_thanks, in advance08:57
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marcus_got it! this works: ./manage.py startpanel overview -d giraffe --target=auto09:15
marcus_tanks09:15
marcus_thanks09:15
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/quantum: _validate_security_groups_on_port was not validating external_ids  https://review.openstack.org/1892909:40
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pfreundHello, can anybody here accept my request to join OpenStack contributors group on launchpad ?09:52
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/nova: use postgresql INET datatype for storing IPs  https://review.openstack.org/1556609:57
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/nova: Fix fallback when Quantum doesn't provide a 'vif_type'  https://review.openstack.org/1983111:52
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/nova: Pull NovaWebSocketProxy class out of nova-novncproxy binary  https://review.openstack.org/1886411:59
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/nova: Add nova-spicehtml5proxy helper  https://review.openstack.org/1886511:59
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/nova: Add a get_spice_console method to nova.virt.ComputeDriver API  https://review.openstack.org/1830711:59
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maurosrdo I need to be member of some group to propose a change on devstack?12:02
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/nova: Expose a get_spice_console RPC API method  https://review.openstack.org/1886612:14
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/nova: Better instance fault message when rescheduling.  https://review.openstack.org/1987713:08
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/oslo-incubator: use regexp to parse the mailmap  https://review.openstack.org/1980613:12
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/nova: Add encryption method using an ssh public key.  https://review.openstack.org/1974513:13
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/python-novaclient: Implement get password for novaclient  https://review.openstack.org/1951313:13
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rohitkHey Nova-core: please review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/18716/14:20
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garykalaski: ping14:22
alaskigaryk: pong14:25
rohitkdims: thanks14:26
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eglynnzul, zigo: you two were involved with the deb/ubuntu packaging for ceilometer, right?15:05
eglynnzul, zigo: can you point me at the latest version of these packages?15:05
zuleglynn: yep15:05
zigoeglynn: I'm not sure if Zul did it.15:05
zigozul: Did you? :)15:05
eglynnzul: (mainly wondering if there's been an update since ceilo-api switched from flask to pecan/wsme)15:05
zulbzr branch lp:~openstack-ubuntu-testing/ceilometer/grizzly15:05
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zigoeglynn: Everything is explained here: https://wiki.debian.org/OpenStackHowto/Folsom15:06
zuleglynn: not yet im working on packaging bugs today so i havent gotten to ceilometer yet15:06
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eglynnzul, zigo: thanks for info!15:06
zigoAnd all of our Debian packages are on Alioth at: http://git.debian.org/git/openstack/15:06
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zigoeglynn: The Ceilometer package that we have there is also for Folsom (I didn't start working on the G release yet), but it's quite not what was released in October, which didn't work at all.15:07
zigoI believe the last tag I used was from december.15:07
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zigozul: When do we start working together? :)15:08
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zulzigo: whenever you want to start but we arent moving to git ;)15:10
anteayajgriffit1, ping15:10
zigozul: Whenever you want as well, but I'm not moving to BZR either.15:10
zulthats fine15:11
zigoI think so as well...15:11
zigozul: I think we should communicate on who's working on packaging what python module, for a start.15:11
zigoSo we don't duplicate the effort.15:11
zigozul: Did you see that I did the packaging of heat?15:12
zulzigo: heat is not a big priority for us15:12
zigoSure, but you can just import it ...15:12
zigoAlso, did you have a look at openstack-pkg-tools?15:12
zulyep we are pondering it15:13
zigoWhat does mean "pondering" ?15:13
zigoConsidering if you would use it or not?15:13
zulyes15:13
zigoOh ok.15:14
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zigoWell, I really think it would be cool if you did.15:14
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zigoI don't mind changing stuff in it if you think we should.15:14
zigoBut if you don't use it, then I don't see how we can work together.15:14
zigoI wouldn't even mind redesigning it if you see fit.15:14
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zigozul: What have you been discussing on it? What's the argument against / for it?15:15
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zulzigo: we are still evaluating it, we dont have a for or against it15:16
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zigoOh ok.15:16
zigoLet me know then.15:16
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zigoI'm well aware that it needs some clean-up btw.15:17
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zigozul: Do you happen to know how I may clone https://bitbucket.org/zzzeek/alembic ?15:19
zigogit clone git://bitbucket.org/zzzeek/alembic.git <--- Does not work15:19
zulzigo: mercurical15:19
zigoThere must be the mercurial to git thing installed, no?15:20
zulnot that i know of15:20
roaetHowdy. I'm having an issue with quantum that I haven't had before. For some reason my quantum-server used to be able to take an arg db_sync, but now it doesn't. Has something changed to quantum recently?15:21
roaetI have noticed a lot of the db stuff has changed recently to some unified sqlalchemy model, which is cool, but did the cli change?15:22
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/tempest: Add skips for tests when dependency not present  https://review.openstack.org/1989415:36
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/horizon: make long tenant names look better  https://review.openstack.org/1974115:36
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/quantum: Send notification on router interface create/delete  https://review.openstack.org/1896115:36
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/cinder: Relax various version constraints.  https://review.openstack.org/1970515:36
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zigozul: I did: git-hg clone https://bitbucket.org/zzzeek/alembic15:37
zigoI don't think there's any other ways...15:37
zigoThere's git over HTTPS, but not anonymously, apparently.15:38
zigo:/15:38
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EmilienMjd__: ping15:47
EmilienMjd__: I was wondering how can I test if ceilometer is working. I would like to write a exercice for devstack15:51
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marcus_hey all, is there a tutorial to integrate a new dashboard in essex, like current for the current horizon version?16:15
EmilienMmarcus_: you mean that you are running Essex, and you want to integreate Dashboard from Grizzly ?16:16
marcus_no, i am currently running essex and I would like to extend the existing dashboard with a panel or extra dashboard16:18
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marcus_with dashboard I mean nova, setting or syspanel16:18
EmilienMmarcus_: yes, Horizon16:18
marcus_i found that http://docs.openstack.org/developer/horizon/topics/tutorial.html16:19
marcus_but it won't work for essex16:19
marcus_especially ./run_tests.sh -m startdash mynewdashboard seems not to be supported16:20
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anteayajgriffith, ping16:25
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jgriffithanteaya: pong16:29
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anteayajgriffith, hello there, I am working on this bug/feature request: https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-cinderclient/+bug/106852116:31
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1068521 in python-cinderclient "cinder CLI does not support --version parameter" [Medium,Confirmed]16:31
anteayaI am looking at nova version behaviour to get a sense of what to implement16:31
jgriffith:)16:32
anteayaI notice there is some code associated in cinder associated with version behaviour already yet I can't get it to work16:32
anteayais there some history about this functionality that I should know about?16:32
jgriffithanteaya: lemme have a look16:32
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jgriffithanteaya: No, not really16:32
anteayajgriffith, thank you16:32
jgriffithanteaya: I copied over from novaclient but some things were not in a good state and others have been left behind16:33
jgriffithanteaya: we're catching up though, and version is one of those things that needs lov16:33
jgriffithlove16:33
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anteayajgriffith, okay well I will do my best, interning here so this is a good experience for me16:33
anteayajgriffith, I just wanted to ensure that I wasn't monkeying with something that someone was attached to16:33
jgriffithanteaya: Nope, it's broken right now.  Following novaclient's implementation is a good route to take16:34
anteayajgriffith, thank you, here is the gist I used for my rough work tracking the implementation of version in nova, file #1 is the summary: https://gist.github.com/95c8b75e0910e690c15b16:35
jgriffithIt's nice if we can keep things consistent across nova and cinder IMO16:35
anteayajgriffith, glad to know your vision, I will try to stay true to it16:35
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hub_capjgriffith: is there an existing BP for the multi backend cinder stuffs?16:35
anteayajgriffith, I will get to work understanding what is there already in cinder and how it needs to be edited to function, thanks16:35
jgriffithhub_cap: yeah...16:36
hub_capcool ill look for it then jgriffith16:36
hub_capi just didnt wnat to search if it didnt exist :)16:36
jgriffithhub_cap: I'm grabbing the lnk... just a sec16:36
hub_caphttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/cinder/+spec/multi-volume-backends16:36
hub_capbeeattttt uuuuuu16:36
hub_cap:D16:36
jgriffithBAHHH16:36
jgriffithMy network is too slow!!!16:36
hub_capill add to it what we discussed and then ask u to make it official16:37
jgriffithhub_cap: We'll want to update based on our talks yesterday :)16:37
jgriffithhaha16:37
jgriffithYou're way ahead of me this morning :)16:37
hub_capjgriffith: ive had my coffee16:39
hub_capjgriffith: so will we be passing scheduler hints or something of the like to make the request get down to the proper Q?16:40
hub_capor looking at something in the db to figure that out16:41
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hub_capim not 100% sure how nirmal had done it... i want to say it was passed down from nova somehow...16:42
hub_capim going to leave that part as a question for now in the BP16:43
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hub_capjgriffith: enough for now? https://blueprints.launchpad.net/cinder/+spec/multi-volume-backends16:44
hub_capalso can u assign it to me? <316:45
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jgriffithhub_cap: nice16:47
hub_capmaybe ive had too much coffee already :D16:48
jgriffithhub_cap: One other thing to think about is if we can enforce not allowing this in the case of LVM16:48
jgriffithhub_cap: but that's just a nice to have16:48
hub_capokey, ill add to the BP as a nice ot have16:48
jgriffithhub_cap: hehe... I haven't had any, so that's my excuse16:48
jgriffithhub_cap: awesome, thanks dude16:48
hub_capfin16:48
zykes-jgriffith: official what ? :)16:49
hub_capno thank you!16:49
hub_capofficial black magic16:49
jgriffithhaha16:49
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/tempest: Object write/read ACL and few security testcases  https://review.openstack.org/1879417:03
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/nova: Move compute node operations to conductor  https://review.openstack.org/1972617:03
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jd__EmilienM: request the API?17:09
EmilienMjd__: yep, I finally found how to do that17:10
EmilienMspawn VM, check if Ceilometer store datas, etc.17:10
EmilienMjd__: my script is not finished yet, but i'll push it into devstack soon17:11
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jd__EmilienM: awesome17:11
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anteayaI currently am getting an error connecting to gerrit: https://gist.github.com/1a1b290fc1abd8d0605f17:15
anteayaI have confirmed my public key is correct (I removed it and replaced it afresh) and my git config email matches my gerrit email.17:16
anteayaAny thoughts on what I might be doing wrong?17:16
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mroddenhas anyone else seen quantum tests leave the network configuration of the machine they run on in a bad state (ie. i didnt have an IP anymore...) ?17:18
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anteayaI figured it out, I entered my email address when gerrit prompted me for my username, how to I either get gerrit to prompt me for my username again or change that value from the command line?17:22
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annegentleanteaya: git review -s should do it17:28
annegentleanteaya: or check your git global settings vs. the local ones for that project17:29
annegentleanteaya: git config --global17:29
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anteayaannegentle, figured it out, the git remote I created had the wrong username, so checking my remotes and removing the erroneous one forced the prompt17:32
anteayaand thanks17:32
annegentlecool17:32
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anteayanew problem, gerrit seems to have accepted the commit but it doesn't appear on my review.openstack.org page: https://gist.github.com/ac978620f9898f912fb117:38
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jpichanteaya: Silly question - Did you run "git review" without -s? This looks like your local history17:41
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anteayajpich, I didn't but I can17:42
anteayajpich, that was it, thank you17:44
jpichanteaya: Yay :)17:44
anteaya:D17:44
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anteayajgriffith, I look forward to your comments: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/19956/17:53
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jgriffithanteaya: looks good, thanks a lot for doing that18:09
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anteayajgriffith, thank you, you are welcome18:19
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mnewbymordred: *ping*18:27
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/tempest: Adds setting to disable SSL cert validation  https://review.openstack.org/1988318:41
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/tempest: Allows identity endpoint to be specified as URI  https://review.openstack.org/1988618:47
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/quantum: Fix downgrade revision to make db migration linear  https://review.openstack.org/1993018:47
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/nova: Make nova-api logs more useful  https://review.openstack.org/1974218:47
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/nova: sync latest log and lockutils from oslo  https://review.openstack.org/1965418:48
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/nova: Fix nova.availability_zones docstring  https://review.openstack.org/1965018:48
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/quantum: Provide atomic database access nvp plugin  https://review.openstack.org/1943018:48
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/nova: libvirt: Optimize test_connection and capabilities  https://review.openstack.org/1988018:48
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/cinder: Move iscsi flags back to driver.py  https://review.openstack.org/1988118:49
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/nova: enforce server_id can only be uuid or int  https://review.openstack.org/1984618:49
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/nova: Validated device_name value in block device map  https://review.openstack.org/1759218:49
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/nova: Clean up get_instance_id_by_floating_address  https://review.openstack.org/1968018:49
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/quantum: More unittests for quantum.api.v2.base  https://review.openstack.org/1845618:50
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mordredmnewby: pong18:56
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/quantum: Update Oslo rpc module  https://review.openstack.org/1989118:57
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mnewbymordred: stupid idea for an update to jenkins unit-test job...18:58
mordredmnewby: I'm excited about stupid ideas18:58
mnewbymordred: check that there are files created in the source tree by the test run18:58
mnewbymordred: it's a small win, but persistent test artifacts can potentially cause problems with repeated runs18:59
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mnewbymordred: as i said, kind of a stupid idea.  but i figured i'd mention it anyway18:59
mordredmnewby: you mean check that there are _not_ files created in the source tree by the test run?18:59
mordredno, I like it18:59
mnewbymordred: correct18:59
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/python-cinderclient: Add upload-to-image function to client.  https://review.openstack.org/1980519:00
mordredjeblair: ^^ thoughts?19:00
jeblairohai19:00
bknudsonmordred: i like it, I was complaining a while ago about stuff getting left around after nova run_tests.sh19:01
jeblairmnewby, mordred: yeah i do too.  i'm thinking that run-tox.sh would be the natural place for that, but for some tox runs (docs, tarballs) we want new files left in the repo...19:02
jeblairi don't immediately see how to generalize it.19:02
mordredhrm19:02
jeblairclarkb: ^19:02
mordredperhaps an additional build step in the unit test job description?19:03
jeblairmordred: yeah, that would work19:03
mordredthat does a quick check for the output of git status or something?19:03
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jeblairlet me finish the review i'm on, then i'll experiment with that.19:04
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clarkbsounds good to me (some artifacts are expected though)19:06
mordredclarkb: if they are expected, they should probably be in .gitignore, right?19:06
jeblairmnewby: are the artifacts you're worried about covered by .gitignore?19:06
jeblairmnewby: (if they are, then a git status won't help us)19:06
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mnewbyjeblair: nope19:06
jeblaircool19:07
clarkbmordred: I am thinking about the subunit log and html results file19:07
jeblairthose we should be able to special case, i think19:08
mnewbyclarkb: expected artifacts should be in .gitignore.  it's the unexpected stuff that should be caught.19:08
jeblairor i guess we could add subunit log/html to .gitignore.19:08
mnewbyclarkb: the idea being that changes to .gitignore are reviewed, so unnecessary additions can be flagged.19:08
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clarkbworks for me.19:12
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jeblairfor nova, after a test run, git status just lists subunit_log.txt and testr_results.html.19:18
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jeblairshould we add those to .gitignore, or special case them in our check script?19:18
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bknudsongit status doesn't show new empty directories19:19
mordredbknudson: piddle19:20
bknudsonlike instance-00000001 and nova.compute.manager19:20
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/nova: Reduce number of iptable-save restore loops  https://review.openstack.org/1968119:28
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jeblairgit ls-files --other --exclude-standard --directory19:29
jeblairthat looks like it does what we want19:29
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/quantum: Config lockutils to use a temp path for tests.  https://review.openstack.org/1996219:45
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jeblairmnewby, mordred, clarkb: https://review.openstack.org/1996619:48
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jaypipeszul, adam_g, nijaba: status of packages for Ceilometer in ubuntu cloud archive? would be great to see soon!19:58
zuljaypipes: we are working on it19:58
jaypipeszul: w00t. for G or for Folsom point?19:59
zulG19:59
zulor g-unit19:59
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jaypipeszul: k, thx19:59
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maurosrannegentle: hi... sdague probably will not join us.. he is sick =/20:04
annegentlemaurosr: oh bummer, hope it's not the flu20:04
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annegentlemaurosr: I wanted to check in on https://blueprints.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+spec/api-samples-to-api-site20:08
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ladquinhi, people20:09
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/horizon: Adding extensibility to data_table template file  https://review.openstack.org/1966020:25
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douarddajgriffith, ping21:02
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jgriffithdouardda: pong21:03
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douarddawhat are your questions about my zfsonlinux backend for cinder?21:04
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jgriffithdouardda: So a couple things21:04
jgriffithdouardda: There's an awful lot that seems to be "missing"21:05
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jgriffithdouardda: But also I don't understand the calling the methods in the ISCSI parent class the way you are there?21:05
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jgriffithdouardda: Why not just leave the implemenation out and let the parent class method be called?21:06
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douarddaI believe this implement is a bit of a hack, but mainly due to misconception of current ISCI stuff in cinder21:06
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jgriffithdouardda: also don't quite get having create_volume_from_snapshot, when you don't have a create_snapshot21:07
douarddamisconception in the fact that volume management and volume export to VM are inthe same class21:07
jgriffithand obviously no delete_snapshot21:07
douarddagood points21:07
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douarddanote that I've implement this for my Essex setup, I've not tested it on a folsom/cinder setup21:08
jgriffithOhhhh :)21:08
douardda(don't have one under the hood)21:08
douarddayup21:08
jgriffithWell, these comments are basicly applicable to either21:08
douarddathey are21:08
douarddaindeed21:08
jgriffithdouardda: So I'm kinda of a jerk about not implementing at least *most* of the base functionality21:09
douarddagive me 2mn reread my code21:09
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jgriffithdouardda: So like, snapshots/create/delete/create-from-snap21:09
jgriffithclone was added for Grizzly21:10
douarddajgriffith, BTW where can I find some description of what is the public API one should implement21:10
douardda?21:10
jgriffithdouardda: The *easiest* way is to look at the cinder/volume/api.py21:10
jgriffithor, look at the ref driver implementation21:10
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jgriffithdouardda: Also I know the ZFS idea you have a is a bit *different* than the normal model so I we can work things out if we need to21:11
jgriffithdouardda: anyway we can set aside some time and chat later if you'd like, or if you want to hack at it I'm happy to review and add comments21:12
douarddaref driver, humm21:12
jgriffithdouardda: Also there's usually someone in #openstack-cinder that can help any time21:12
jgriffithdouardda: Well... I use that term fairly loosely :)21:12
douarddahuuu there is an #openstack-cinder21:13
jgriffith:)21:13
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douarddaso my pb with class inheritance here is that I want both the ISCSI management done in ISCSIDriver21:14
jgriffithSo some good example drivers that inherit from SanISCSI are solidfire.py and HPLeftHand21:14
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douardda*and* methods for managing remote execution from the SAN stuff21:14
jgriffithdouardda: sure21:14
jgriffithdouardda: SanISCSI gives you all of that21:15
douarddabut this later just reimplement them with "pass" so I cannot just super them21:15
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jgriffithdouardda: ohh...21:15
douarddanope21:15
douarddait hide these methods21:16
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douarddawith pass21:16
jgriffithdouardda: You may want to look at the NFS driver version?21:16
douarddaI cannot find an elegant way with current implementations21:16
douarddaand I believe there is a small design flaw there21:16
douarddavolume management and volume exposition to VMs should not be that imbricated21:17
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/tempest: Only create 1 server for server actions tests.  https://review.openstack.org/1965521:17
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/nova: Create ports in quantum matching hypervisor MAC addresses.  https://review.openstack.org/1975521:17
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jgriffithdouardda: Ok, I see what you're trying to do now21:17
douarddaso I'll try to find some time to look at thoses missing features21:17
jgriffithdouardda: cool21:18
douarddathanks21:18
jgriffithdouardda: thanks for clearing up the ISCSI calls21:18
jgriffithdouardda: one thing we need to do is some decoupling/refactoring of the iscsi heirarchy anyway21:18
jgriffithdouardda: similar to what was done with LVM and Driver21:19
jgriffithanyway...21:19
douarddaok21:19
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douarddais there any  one working on this refactoring now?21:20
jgriffithdouardda: not yet, no21:20
jgriffithdouardda: It's been discussed a bit but that's about it AFAIK21:21
jgriffithdouardda: If you decide to tackle it let me know, you'll need to base off of the LIO change-set that's pending right now21:21
douarddaI'd be happy to help there, but I'm soooo busy these days21:21
jgriffithdouardda: I hear ya21:21
jgriffithdouardda: No worries, just wanted to give a heads up if you decided to tackle it21:22
douarddajgriffith, ok21:22
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ayoungdolphm, in pure hard headedness fashion, I've been following up on running the upgrade tests against postgresql.  Leanred a few things.  One, table rename does not work for the user table on Postgres as the constraints follow the table.  Thus you can't rename and create a new table, then copy the data and drop the old table.21:25
ayoungdolphm, more interesting is that, once i account for that, the scripts work right up until the final cleanup21:25
ayoungdolphm, test_upgrade_9_to_12 runs OK, but then hangs on tearDown when it calls the downgrade.  I've chased the hang to21:26
ayoungscript 0012 downgrade rename of endpoint_221:26
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ayoung    new_table.rename('endpoint_v3'21:27
ayoungI haven't tried mysql yet, as that was hang across the board before21:27
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bcwaldonmordred: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/19043/ needs your attention21:33
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mordredbcwaldon: I'm excited about that21:38
mordredbcwaldon: sigh. rebasing.21:39
bcwaldonmordred: it will land as soon as Gerrit will let it21:39
bcwaldonmordred: I'm ready with the approve button21:39
vishyclayg: can you revive https://review.openstack.org/#/c/15796/ ?21:39
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mordredbcwaldon: w00t. thanks21:49
bcwaldonmordred: yes sir21:49
bcwaldonmordred: you need to update that whole series, though21:49
mordredbcwaldon: yah21:49
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buzztrollbcwaldon: i have been investigating some things with glance and was hoping to get your thoughts on some ideas i have21:54
bcwaldonbuzztroll: shoot21:54
buzztrollbcwaldon: the main this is managing the work load of the transfer of images21:54
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buzztrolli wrote a blog on this here: http://tropicaldevel.wordpress.com/2013/01/11/an-image-transfers-service-for-openstack/ if you want it more formally written21:55
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buzztrollbut in the shorter term, i am wondering about ways to limit the number of workers that do transfers independently from the number of works that handle lookups21:56
buzztrolland ways to horizontally scale that out21:56
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bcwaldonbuzztroll: ok - so my vision for Glance is to get it out of the business of transferring data21:56
buzztrollnod, that sounds right to me :-)21:57
bcwaldonbuzztroll: and we definitely have thoughts about supporting data transfer through separate processes21:57
buzztrollbcwaldon: cool21:57
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bcwaldonbuzztroll: the v2 api implementation is the start of this21:57
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buzztrollbcwaldon: are there any blue prints out there for it?21:57
buzztrollbcwaldon: v2 with things like direct_url?21:57
bcwaldonbuzztroll: cut out the registry api and create a new set of workers to offload image data transfer21:57
bcwaldonbuzztroll: yes, that's the first important bit21:57
bcwaldonbuzztroll: we're still missing identity impersonation, however, so the direct_url is somewhat crippled for now21:58
buzztrollbcwaldon: have you given any thought to having services on the other side of the transfer?21:58
bcwaldonbuzztroll: services such as Nova?21:58
buzztrollbcwaldon: more like something dedicated for transfers21:58
bcwaldonbuzztroll: ah , yes21:59
bcwaldonbuzztroll: thats exactly the idea21:59
buzztrollbcwaldon: so the image trasnfer would be a sort of peer to peer transfer?21:59
buzztrollbcwaldon: each side being a managed service?21:59
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bcwaldonbuzztroll: not necessarily P2P, but just offloaded from the glance-api servers22:00
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buzztrollbcwaldon: yeah p2p is a bad/loaded term22:00
buzztrollbcwaldon: i dont really mean that22:00
bcwaldonbuzztroll: there's still a lot to think through, but the idea is that glance-api should just be handling simple API requests22:00
bcwaldonah ok22:00
buzztrollbcwaldon: i mean more of a 'third party transfer'22:00
bcwaldonbuzztroll: and I want to create a new Glance service to handle the actual data transfer22:00
mordredbcwaldon: what if you wrote a "guy with a cd" driver for glance22:00
buzztrollbcwaldon: where the client talks to the source and the destination and requests that they perform the transfer22:01
bcwaldonbuzztroll: but I *really* want to get Glance out of the way and just tell people where their data is22:01
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bcwaldonbuzztroll: ah, I haven't thought of it that way22:01
bcwaldonbuzztroll: I really want Nova to ask *where* an image is then go download it itself22:01
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buzztrollbcwaldon: i previously worked on something called 'GridFTP' which did that kind of thing22:01
buzztrollbcwaldon: i like that idea22:01
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bcwaldonbuzztroll: this discussion is now evolving into the realization that I am waaaay behind and need to spend more time on Glance22:02
buzztrollbcwaldon: my thought is that it asks glance where the image is, glance returns a list of locations...22:02
bcwaldonbuzztroll: yes, that blueprint (multiple locations) in in progress in the terminal next to this one ;)22:02
buzztrollbcwaldon: then it contacts 2 transfer services (one at the source the other at the dest) and they work out the best way to transfer it between them22:02
buzztrollbcwaldon:  leaving the client as a very simple thin bit of logic22:03
bcwaldonbuzztroll: yes, which could be Glance acting as a broker between swift and nova22:03
buzztrollbcwaldon:  yeah something like that22:03
bcwaldonbuzztroll: I'll definitely read through your blog post22:03
buzztrollbcwaldon: one focus i have is making sure that nova-compute doesnt have to actually strewam any bytes22:03
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bcwaldonbuzztroll: there are *so* many different solutions to this problem in progress right now :)22:04
buzztrollbcwaldon: it just says 'i want this <src> to end up here <dst> and the transfer service would figure out how to do so22:04
buzztrollnod cool22:04
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buzztrollhow can i get involved a bit?22:04
bcwaldonbuzztroll: that's similar to the 'copy-from' feature of Glance22:04
buzztrollyeah22:04
bcwaldonyou give it an external url and glance will copy it into its internal store22:04
buzztrollbcwaldon:  agreed22:04
buzztrollbcwaldon: the main difference being, it still has to be routed through glance to the ultimate destination (compute node)22:05
bcwaldonan alternative solution to this problem is to use multiple locations, keep a copy of images in cold storage (swift/s3), pull it into hot storage (cinder-managed volume) on demand, then boot-from-volume in nova22:05
buzztrollbcwaldon: nod.  but in all cases the bit to source and sync the data stream is needed22:05
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bcwaldonbuzztroll: yeah, there will always be at a minimum a bootstrap operation to get the image into a usable place22:06
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buzztrollbcwaldon: of course.  i would just like to see that moved to more easily managed and separate service, where possible22:06
bcwaldonbuzztroll: ok - I'm not 100% convinced we need a completely new service22:07
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bcwaldonI'm curious what its responsibility to the cloud would be and how it would integrate22:07
buzztrollbcwaldon: nod, i kind of feel that it would be a bit of a hard sell22:07
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buzztrollbcwaldon: but i think it has a place22:07
bcwaldonbuzztroll: should I just read this blog post?22:08
buzztrollbcwaldon: if it is outsourced to a service (it being the receving of an image) you could have dedicated trasnfer nodes22:08
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buzztrollbcwaldon: if you can i would love that!22:08
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/glance: Replace custom tearDown with fixtures and cleanup.  https://review.openstack.org/1904322:08
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bcwaldonbuzztroll: I think you and I are more-or-less on the same page but I'm thinking it would be a service owned by glance22:09
buzztrollbcwaldon: oh sure22:09
bcwaldonok22:09
buzztrollbcwaldon: i mean, logically separate22:09
buzztrollbcwaldon: errr do i mean physically?22:09
bcwaldonright, so I think I'm with you22:09
bcwaldonnot necessarily22:09
bcwaldonbuzztroll: what do you mean 'physically'22:09
buzztrollbcwaldon: well, a separate process22:10
bcwaldonbuzztroll: gotta step away for a minute, be back soon22:10
buzztrollbcwaldon: potentially on a separate machine22:10
bcwaldonyes, separate process22:10
bcwaldonpossibly separate machine22:10
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buzztrollbcwaldon: cool, let me know what you think of the ideas in that post22:10
buzztrollbcwaldon: i would love to help in some capacity22:10
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bcwaldonbuzztroll: definitely - I think I need to brainstorm and get a plan together for g-322:18
buzztrollbcwaldon: let me know how I can help22:19
bcwaldondefinitely22:19
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack-infra/devstack-gate: Fix tempest coverage report output.  https://review.openstack.org/1985923:17
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