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| cloudchimp | azoung: will contact you later regarding: I have been testing with Grizzly now and have found that any glance command is throwing an exception that states "Authorization Failed: Unable to communicate with identity service: ...". The keystone log shows that auth is failing because there is no pem file in /etc/keystone/ssl/certs/. Is this a known problem? | 00:08 |
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| ayoung | clarkb, you need to set up the pki certs ahead of time with keystone-manage | 00:36 |
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| clarkb | ty | 00:36 |
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| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1098174 in keystone "MySQL db_sync issue" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1098174 | 01:03 |
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| ayoung | cloudchimp, sorry, just saw the note | 03:28 |
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| cloudchimp | ayoung: no problem. I was just wondering if you saw the problem I had with glance and keystone today? | 03:29 |
| ayoung | cloudchimp, thought I responded...you need to set up PKI using keystone-manage | 03:30 |
| ayoung | ./bin/keystone-manage pki_setup | 03:30 |
| ayoung | make sure it is done as the user that you will run Keystone as, not as root. | 03:30 |
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| ayoung | ah, I responded to clarkb . | 03:31 |
| cloudchimp | Thanks. I'll use that to setup that up. | 03:31 |
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| cloudchimp | ayoung: thanks for the help. I'm unblocked there and can move forward with more integration testing. | 03:45 |
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| uvg | Reviews required for: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/17592/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/19376/ ..Thank you | 05:05 |
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| garyk | alexxu: ping | 08:14 |
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| alexxu | garyk, Hi | 08:15 |
| garyk | alexxu: hi, how are you? following your comments - can you please look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/19570/ (the ovs will be updated in a similar fasion). | 08:15 |
| garyk | alexxu: thanks | 08:15 |
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| alexxu | garyk, ok, let me spend some time on that. | 08:16 |
| garyk | alexxu: thanks. i am on line if you want to discuss things. | 08:16 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/oslo-incubator: Implement importutils.try_import. https://review.openstack.org/19646 | 08:17 |
| alexxu | garyk, by the way, cloud you please have a look Maru's comment at 'https://review.openstack.org/#/c/19271/', I'm not sure the answer :) Thanks! | 08:17 |
| alexxu | garyk, s/cloud/could/ | 08:17 |
| garyk | alexxu: sure. i'll take a look | 08:17 |
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| alexxu | garyk, thanks | 08:18 |
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| flaper87 | horizon guys? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/19672/ | 08:51 |
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| k4n0 | for the nova repo, run_tests.sh is failing | 09:01 |
| k4n0 | for latest master | 09:01 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/oslo-incubator: Add missing parameter to impl_fake notify function. https://review.openstack.org/19633 | 09:23 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/python-quantumclient: Make "quantum help" to show a list of subcommands. https://review.openstack.org/19299 | 09:23 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/horizon: Horizon escapes special characters in openrc.sh https://review.openstack.org/19672 | 10:07 |
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| rohitk | k4n0: are you seeing test_libvirt.py failures? | 10:38 |
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| sgran | anyone know about custom block and interface attributes for an image? eg, for booting an appliance VM image that expects sda to be / ? | 11:15 |
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| k4n0 | @rohitk , its all good now, some python packages were missing from my env | 12:07 |
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| tm-gerry | Hi guys, do you happen to know about any documentation or example on how to build an ec2-like web api request to Openstack? couldnt find much on the documentation :-/ any help would be much appreciated! | 13:09 |
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| zul | where am i suppose to get the extra modules from? | 13:43 |
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| henrynash | dolphm/ayoung: around? | 13:45 |
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| markmc | zul, which extra modules? python-extras ? | 13:49 |
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| zul | markmc: nm found it | 13:49 |
| markmc | zul, fyi https://review.openstack.org/19646 | 13:49 |
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| k3rn | hi! | 14:42 |
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| k3rn | how could I disable ebtable rules for a specific instance/image? | 14:46 |
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| mjfork | jog0: I updated my patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/19668/ (and fixed a misspelling: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/19697/) | 15:06 |
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| davidkranz | ayoung: Can you point me at the currently most authoritative document that describes the plan for keystone domains and related topics? | 15:59 |
| ayoung | davidkranz, sure, although some of it is happening as we speak...lets start with | 15:59 |
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| ayoung | davidkranz, https://blueprints.launchpad.net/keystone/+spec/domain-scoping | 16:00 |
| ayoung | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/keystone/+spec/domain-name-spaces | 16:00 |
| zyluo | markmcclain, I responded to you comments | 16:00 |
| ayoung | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/18770/ | 16:00 |
| ayoung | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/18805/ | 16:00 |
| zyluo | markmcclain, could you take a look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/18568/ also? Thanks | 16:01 |
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| ayoung | davidkranz, the driver behind that is the newly Knighted Sir henrynash. | 16:01 |
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| davidkranz | ayoung: OK, thanks :) | 16:01 |
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| markmcclain | zyluo: I'll take a look | 16:02 |
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| henrynash | davidkranz: Hi….just on a call right now, should be free in 30 mins of so if you have questions | 16:03 |
| davidkranz | henrynash: Ok. I need to do some reading first. I am interested both as a keystone user and thinking about when the right time to start adding some domani and/or v3 stuff to the tempest identity tests. | 16:04 |
| henrynash | davidkranz: ok, cool | 16:05 |
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| eglynn | bcwaldon: got a sec for super dumb glance question? | 16:34 |
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| eglynn | bcwaldon: say we have an OVF manifest referencing multiple disks, e.g. a couple .vmdk files | 16:35 |
| eglynn | bcwaldon: is the recommended approach to tar up the .ovf and .vmdk files into a single .ova? | 16:35 |
| eglynn | bcwaldon: or is the only way to merge the .vmdk files and register only that with glance? | 16:36 |
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| zyluo | salv-orlando, leave comment to the patch if any. I'll look at them tomorrow | 16:45 |
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| salv-orlando | zyluo: sure | 16:45 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/cinder: Enhance wsgi to listen on ipv6 address https://review.openstack.org/19399 | 16:50 |
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| jaypipes | ayoung: morning. Any reason why this might be happening? http://paste.openstack.org/show/29472/ | 17:10 |
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| jaypipes | ayoung: it is (as you can see) in a PKI environment, issuing calls to the Admin Keystone API endpoint... | 17:10 |
| jaypipes | ayoung: how is the primary key for the token determined? | 17:11 |
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| ayoung | jaypipes, In meeting | 17:12 |
| ayoung | jaypipes, I'll greab you shortly, OK? | 17:12 |
| jaypipes | ayoung: no probs. thx! | 17:12 |
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| k3rn | hi | 17:14 |
| k3rn | Is it possible to disable the ebtables rules for a specific instance/image? | 17:15 |
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| ayoung | davidkranz, are there specific tests for Keystone in Tempest, or is it assumed that it gets tested by the other components? | 17:32 |
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| jaypipes | ayoung: yes, there are many.... | 17:37 |
| jaypipes | ayoung: it tests the full API with a SQL backend for identity, tokens, service_catalog. | 17:37 |
| jaypipes | ayoung: tempest/tests/identity/ | 17:37 |
| jaypipes | ayoung: https://github.com/openstack/tempest/tree/master/tempest/tests/identity/admin | 17:38 |
| ayoung | jaypipes, if we wanted to run those against the LDAP back end, I assume we would need LDAP setup from devstack first, right? | 17:39 |
| jaypipes | ayoung: yes. | 17:40 |
| jaypipes | ayoung: I'm looking into whether this is a Folsom thing.. | 17:43 |
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| ayoung | jaypipes, It should be agnostic of the distribution. The LDAP schema for a Grizzly setup should work for Folsom | 17:44 |
| ayoung | There might be subtrees (example is what we are doing for Groups right now) that won't be used in Folsom | 17:45 |
| jaypipes | ayoung: https://github.com/openstack/keystone/blob/stable/folsom/keystone/service.py#L445 | 17:46 |
| jaypipes | ayoung: ^^ that block of code does not seem to be working correctly... since the call to create_token throws an IntegrityError, but line 449 never seems to be run... | 17:47 |
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| jaypipes | ayoung: see http://paste.openstack.org/show/29472/ | 17:47 |
| ayoung | jaypipes, ok, my meeting is over, you have my full attention for 13 minutes | 17:47 |
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| jaypipes | lol | 17:47 |
| ayoung | jaypipes, my guess is that the blank value is going into a field that is unquie foreign key | 17:48 |
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| ayoung | hence the SQL error | 17:48 |
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| ayoung | I saw that before. | 17:49 |
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| ayoung | test_role_create_blank_name should be moved into our unit tests, probably | 17:49 |
| ayoung | It is also possible that the '' is messing up some Python string substitution in building the query | 17:50 |
| ayoung | But a blank role name should not be allowed. We can catch that in the controller level | 17:51 |
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| jaypipes | ayoung: what is weird is if I run nosetests -svx tempest/tests/identity/admin/ multiple times, the ERROR occurs in different tests... it's almost like there is some caching or delayed deletion of the token that doesn't seem to be working. | 17:53 |
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| jaypipes | ayoung: the blank role IS caught... it's the POST /tokens call for the user making the call to POST /roles to authenticate that is the problem. | 17:53 |
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| jaypipes | ayoung: and all I see in the keystone log is this: http://paste.openstack.org/show/29475/ | 17:56 |
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| jaypipes | ayoung: got it! | 17:57 |
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| jaypipes | ayoung: see https://github.com/openstack/keystone/blob/stable/folsom/keystone/service.py#L445 | 17:58 |
| jaypipes | ayoung: note that line 452 re-raises the original IntegrityError... | 17:58 |
| ayoung | jaypipes, is there a bug for this? If not, open one and assign to me. I'll look at it later today | 17:59 |
| ayoung | It would be worthwhile to see what Tempest tests should become Keystone unit tests | 17:59 |
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| jaypipes | ayoung: so what is happening is that the token is in the table when line 438 runs, which raise IntegrityError from MySQL and causes the line 445 block to run, and then the token is deleted from the table before the call to get_token occurs on line 449, which raises NotFound, but then we re-raise the original IntegrityError :) | 17:59 |
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| ayoung | jaypipes, cool. That should be easy enough to address | 18:00 |
| jaypipes | ayoung: perhaps a loopback to create_token if the NotFound occurs... | 18:01 |
| jaypipes | ayoung: I will file a bug. | 18:01 |
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| swaT30 | getting some "Unable to execute errors" | 18:23 |
| swaT30 | http://paste.openstack.org/show/29478/ | 18:24 |
| swaT30 | any ideas? | 18:24 |
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| lifeless | it would be lovely if http://pypi.python.org/pypi/python-quantumclient/2.1 had docs on it | 18:57 |
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| henrynash | dolph, gyee" | 19:04 |
| henrynash | ? | 19:04 |
| gyee | yeah | 19:04 |
| henrynash | ahh, thought I'd lost everyone... | 19:04 |
| gyee | so are we cool with the current auth plugin proposal? | 19:04 |
| dolphm | was updating meeting page | 19:04 |
| gyee | henrynash, it was a long meeting, restroom break first :) | 19:05 |
| ayoung | gyee, in your blueprint, please enumerate the factors that would be used to select the authentication mechanism for a given request. Cool? | 19:05 |
| jk0 | n | 19:05 |
| henrynash | gyee: :-) | 19:05 |
| dolphm | gyee: haha +1 | 19:05 |
| gyee | {"auth"{"auth_mechanism"{<auth payload> | 19:05 |
| gyee | "auth_mechanism" -> plugin | 19:06 |
| ayoung | gyee, the user should not specify, nor know anything about the mechanisms used. | 19:06 |
| ayoung | correction | 19:06 |
| gyee | ayoung, that's up to the deployment | 19:06 |
| ayoung | they can specify the mechanism, but not the identity provider | 19:06 |
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| dolphm | gyee: the only problem i see with that implementation is that you're determining which auth plugin to use by process of elimination (ignoring attributes you know aren't plugins because they're part of the spec, like 'projects' and 'domains'), which could leave more than 1 match | 19:07 |
| gyee | for example, specific admin can force a specific mechanism | 19:07 |
| ayoung | gyee, so they can say LDAP, but not identify the LDAP server. | 19:07 |
| gyee | admin UI | 19:07 |
| gyee | dolphm, not sure what you mean, auth_mechanism is unique | 19:08 |
| henrynash | ayoung: so what about an enterprise being hosted in a domain who wants their own LDAP to do the auth? | 19:08 |
| ayoung | Keystone gets to control the list of identity providers, but probably shouldn't advertise them. Thus, it ight be athat we say "kerberos is supported" but it won;t be supported for all users. I say we divide this based on domains | 19:08 |
| dolphm | gyee: {'auth': {'credentials': {**anything that goes here is blindly passed to every auth plugin until one returns successfully**}, 'projects': [{'id': '123abc'}]} | 19:08 |
| gyee | LDAP server is part of ldap auth plugin config | 19:08 |
| ayoung | henrynash, good example | 19:08 |
| gyee | user doesn't care | 19:08 |
| dolphm | gyee: so then you just do... for plugin in auth_plugins: plugin.authenticate(**auth['credentials']) | 19:09 |
| ayoung | henrynash, Keystone would be configured with to LDAP servers. One for the cloud provider, and one for the enterprise customer | 19:09 |
| gyee | dolphm, no | 19:09 |
| gyee | plugins['mechanism'].authenticate() | 19:09 |
| henrynash | ayoung: +1 | 19:09 |
| ayoung | the enterprise customer's user set would be authed against their LDAP server, based on the Enterprises domain | 19:09 |
| gyee | ayoung, domain can be part of the payload | 19:10 |
| gyee | its up to the LDAP plug in to map domain to a tree or server or whatever | 19:10 |
| ayoung | gyee, so domain is the IdP, and the user can specify the mechanism. That works fine by me. | 19:10 |
| ayoung | BUt... | 19:10 |
| ayoung | I really only care about the backend part of this | 19:10 |
| ayoung | Eventlet is never going to do Kerberos or X509 Client certs | 19:10 |
| gyee | ayoung, the whole point of having plugin is that plugin can determine *how* to authenticate the user base on the information provided in the auth payload | 19:11 |
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| ayoung | gyee, I understand. I just don't think that it is worth the development effort. Now, I might make an exception for SAML or Oauth2, provided I took the time to actually read and understand them. | 19:12 |
| gyee | take a look at apache mod_ldap | 19:12 |
| gyee | it can do a search on the user dn using LDAP filter | 19:13 |
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| gyee | doesn't matter which domain | 19:13 |
| gyee | with auth plugin, we can effectively wrap any protocal in the payload | 19:14 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/nova: Renames the new os-networks extension https://review.openstack.org/19516 | 19:14 |
| ayoung | gyee, so ldap is a bad example. It is not a secure auth mechansim (simple bind with a shared password) | 19:14 |
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| ayoung | the real use cases is for multi-factor | 19:14 |
| ayoung | and for different LDAP servers | 19:14 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/nova: Move network call from compute API to the manager https://review.openstack.org/19500 | 19:14 |
| Ryan_Lane | ayoung: it should be secure. ldaps or ldap+start_tls | 19:14 |
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| Ryan_Lane | you guys are setting off my ping mechanism like crazy in here :D | 19:14 |
| ayoung | Ryan_Lane, bah. Humbug | 19:15 |
| gyee | ayoung, or run Keystone over 2-way SSL | 19:15 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/nova: More HostAPI() cleanup for cells. https://review.openstack.org/19602 | 19:15 |
| ayoung | gyee, yes | 19:15 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/python-novaclient: Adds tenant network support to the client https://review.openstack.org/18986 | 19:15 |
| Ryan_Lane | does keystone still not support ldaps or ldap+start_tls? | 19:15 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/nova: Cells: Commit resize quota reservations immediately https://review.openstack.org/15232 | 19:15 |
| zykes- | anyone giving keystone love for horizon ? | 19:15 |
| ayoung | Ryan_Lane, irrelevant | 19:15 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/glance: Use testtools for unittest base class. https://review.openstack.org/18624 | 19:15 |
| * Ryan_Lane shrugs | 19:15 | |
| ayoung | Ryan_Lane, with out two way auth | 19:15 |
| ayoung | it is susceptapickle to man in the middle attacks | 19:16 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/python-novaclient: Move from untitest2 to testtools. https://review.openstack.org/18629 | 19:16 |
| Ryan_Lane | ummm | 19:16 |
| Ryan_Lane | it definitely is not | 19:16 |
| Ryan_Lane | it's PKI | 19:16 |
| ayoung | Ryan_Lane, that is only between Ketystone and LDAP | 19:16 |
| gyee | how LDAP plugin deals with LDAP servers is not a concern for Keystone | 19:16 |
| ayoung | user to keystone is over HTTP | 19:16 |
| ayoung | and that needs SSL to secure | 19:16 |
| ayoung | with either client certs or Kerberos to do 2 way auth | 19:17 |
| gyee | you can use biomatric for all I care :) | 19:17 |
| henrynash | dolphm: (side topic) - could you re-approve the domain-scoping api change, it failed to merge and I had to re-base: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/18770/ | 19:17 |
| ayoung | gyee, biometric bad. How do you revoke a retina? | 19:17 |
| gyee | nice | 19:17 |
| ayoung | http://sgallagh.wordpress.com/2013/01/14/we-are-not-who-we-are/ | 19:17 |
| Ryan_Lane | this is about two-factor auth? | 19:18 |
| ayoung | Ryan_Lane, in part, yes | 19:18 |
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| ayoung | Ryan_Lane, and also about pluggable authentication, which is a related topic | 19:18 |
| gyee | with the plugin approach, we can support MFA or multi-roundtrip auth | 19:18 |
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| ayoung | gyee, we *can* but I am still not convinced we *should* | 19:18 |
| ayoung | Be that as it may | 19:19 |
| ayoung | lets assume we should | 19:19 |
| gyee | so we're cool with the current proposal then? | 19:19 |
| ayoung | so the request specifies the mechanism | 19:19 |
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| ayoung | gyee, in part | 19:19 |
| gyee | which part? :) | 19:19 |
| dolphm | henrynash: going to skim through it again, but yes | 19:19 |
| ayoung | gyee, selecting IdP for tghe request | 19:19 |
| henrynash | dolphm: thx | 19:20 |
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| gyee | so lets do this then? | 19:20 |
| gyee | dolphm, henrynash, we're cool with this? | 19:20 |
| ayoung | gyee, I want the seelction of the IdP specified by the Domain. Is that OK? | 19:20 |
| dolphm | gyee: with pluggability, i'd also like to support two plugins providing the same "mechanism" (e.g. two backends both providing password-based auth) ... the user shouldn't have to care which backend they auth against | 19:21 |
| gyee | ayoung, that's auth policy | 19:21 |
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| ayoung | gyee, if the user specifies a combination of mechanism and domain that is not supported by their IdP, they get no-authed | 19:21 |
| ayoung | gyee, it needs to be in there. | 19:21 |
| henrynash | ayoung: +1 on that, seems to be a sensible mapping | 19:21 |
| gyee | ayoung, then why stop at domain? | 19:22 |
| gyee | why not project or individual user? | 19:22 |
| ayoung | gyee, because I don't want to create a rules engine | 19:22 |
| gyee | you see where I am going with this | 19:22 |
| ayoung | gyee, domain is the logical analogue to IdP | 19:22 |
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| gyee | my point is if we are going to do auth policies, lets not do half-monty | 19:23 |
| ayoung | gyee, because then you need every use in the local Identity store, and that doesn't map to the requests we are getting from the field | 19:23 |
| henrynash | dolphm: (separate side topic): do we have to provide db table migration across grizzly-1, grizzly-2 boundaries…or just Folsom<->Grizzly ? | 19:24 |
| ayoung | gyee, nope. | 19:24 |
| ayoung | gyee, chicken and egg again | 19:24 |
| ayoung | Lets say a user comes in | 19:24 |
| dolphm | henrynash: not sure what you mean? they should be continuous | 19:24 |
| ayoung | and that user is not in the MySQL user store | 19:24 |
| ayoung | which IdP do you go to? | 19:24 |
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| ayoung | The logical answer is "the one specified for the user's domain" | 19:25 |
| ayoung | The only other choices are "the default one" and "you don't, auth fails." | 19:25 |
| dolphm | ayoung: how do you know what the user's domain is before you've authenticated the user? | 19:26 |
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| henrynash | dolphm: e.g. I'm pulling the domain_id out of the extra and make it a full attribute in user entity..can I just modify the identity-normalization code that we wrote for grizzly-1, or do I need to do another totally separate migration step | 19:26 |
| gyee | hey, I gotta run, lets cont this discussion later | 19:26 |
| ayoung | gyee, OK | 19:27 |
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| swaT30 | anyone here available to help me out with a quantum issue? | 19:28 |
| dolphm | henrynash: ah, i see what you mean -- only worry about data at the state of a major release (so, you can modify migration 9) | 19:28 |
| swaT30 | running trunk | 19:28 |
| henrynash | dolphm: ok, yep, that was my question | 19:28 |
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| ayoung | henrynash, so, lets say that we do a lazy fetch of users from an LDAP server (based on domain) what would we do about roles? Default them? Additional LDAP query? | 19:30 |
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| ayoung | Or would we have to say " user must exist locally before going to remote LDAP?" | 19:31 |
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| henrynash | ayoung: so I think this goes to the question of whether we have the ID in some local keystone store and are just authenticating agains KSAP | 19:31 |
| henrynash | LDAP | 19:31 |
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| ayoung | henrynash, yep | 19:32 |
| henrynash | ayoung: I haven't actually spent time thinning through how all these combinations might fit together | 19:33 |
| ayoung | henrynash, every time I think about it I come to the same conclusion. It is an LDAP problem, and the best solution is to set up a local LDAP server and let that server solve it. But that is really just avoiding the question | 19:33 |
| henrynash | ayoung: i.e. if you have users in LDPA, do you also have groups by default | 19:33 |
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| dolphm | if authentication plugins were made independent of the backends, we could start writing a single fast sql driver with cross-backend foreignkeys and whatnot :P | 19:34 |
| henrynash | ayoung: (how many random spellings of LDAP can I type?) | 19:34 |
| ayoung | dolphm, one config option should be "lazy load of users from IdP" | 19:34 |
| dolphm | henrynash: 14 by my count | 19:35 |
| ayoung | henrynash, 4 characters lead to 4! permustations. But each char could be mistyped by the 4 keys around it. There is some overlap betwwen keys, as you could mistype both D and A as S. | 19:35 |
| henrynash | ayoung: …in such an arrangement, if the user is disabled in LDAP, when would we notice? | 19:35 |
| ayoung | and both L and P as O | 19:35 |
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| ayoung | so...lets say roughly 8! ways you can mistype LDAP | 19:36 |
| dolphm | 14! | 19:36 |
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| ayoung | dolphm, oh, I realize that the A is next to Caps lock | 19:36 |
| ayoung | that doubles the NUMber of characters upper and lower | 19:36 |
| ayoung | 34! | 19:37 |
| dolphm | ayoung: i'm not counting case | 19:38 |
| henrynash | …I could be at this some time….. | 19:38 |
| ayoung | dolphm, then 17! | 19:38 |
| dolphm | ayoung: i'm trying to enumerate them | 19:38 |
| ayoung | henrynash, if the user is disabled in LDAP, they won;t authenticate | 19:38 |
| dolphm | stuck at: LDAP + LDA + LDP + LAP + DAP + LDPA + LPAD + PDAL + LADP + ADLP + DLAP | 19:38 |
| dolphm | 10 wrong + 1 correct? | 19:39 |
| ayoung | dolphm, that is somewhere between 4! and 5! | 19:39 |
| henrynash | ayoung: so they authenticate, then the user is disabled, I assume we don't notice until they re-authenicate? If we update a user i keystone to disable them, I assume we revoke any tokens | 19:39 |
| dolphm | ayoung: 4! == 24, 5! == 120 | 19:40 |
| ayoung | henrynash, LDAP does not push notifications. I'd say we push for short term tokens (1 mintue) and stop worrying about revocations | 19:40 |
| henrynash | ayoung: just thinking aloud.... | 19:40 |
| dolphm | henrynash: your productive questions are distracting | 19:40 |
| henrynash | dolphm :-) | 19:40 |
| dolphm | henrynash: but yes to everything you said (i don't know how to solve the problem of remote users being disabled) | 19:41 |
| ayoung | dolphm, I think it would be 4! + 3! + 2! to account for dropping letters | 19:41 |
| lifeless | don't drive trucks over them ? | 19:41 |
| ayoung | No, wait. | 19:42 |
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| ayoung | It would be 4 Choose 4 plus 4 choose 3 plus 4 choose 2 plus 4 choose 1 | 19:42 |
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| dolphm | ayoung: i've been thinking along those lines | 19:42 |
| dolphm | ayoung: is 4 choose 4 the correct spelling? | 19:42 |
| henrynash | dolphm, young: btw, is it ok for me to be adding in things like domains (and of course I have already added groups) into the v2 token auth code? They are all optional, so won't break anything…but in theory they would only be in a v3 token... | 19:42 |
| lifeless | ayoung: 4^4 + 4^3 + 4^2 + 4 ? | 19:43 |
| ayoung | henrynash, what happens if we pass a V3 token to the V2 API | 19:43 |
| dolphm | henrynash: i'd rather not, but you'd need to modify the v2 spec, and it should either be an extension or require a minor version bump (v2.1) thus requiring awful changes to our impl | 19:43 |
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| ayoung | lifeless, only if we allow duplication of letters | 19:43 |
| ayoung | so LLLL would be valid | 19:43 |
| ayoung | but people don't tend to typo that way | 19:44 |
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| lifeless | ayoung: you don't then its 4! + 4!-1! + 4!-2! + 4!-3! | 19:44 |
| ayoung | lifeless, yep | 19:44 |
| ayoung | 4*4!-(1!+2!+3!) and since 4! = 24, 3! = 6.... | 19:45 |
| lifeless | actually, its not -, its / | 19:46 |
| ayoung | 96-(6*2*1)=96-12=84 | 19:46 |
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| henrynash | young, dolpm: so groups are actually ok….since you can't tell from the token whether the role came from group membership or a direct user role | 19:47 |
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| henrynash | ….but domains will be different | 19:47 |
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| ayoung | henrynash, I'm OK with saying V2 cannot consume V3 tokens | 19:48 |
| ayoung | I just want it to be explicit | 19:48 |
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| ayoung | henrynash, but it seems like V2 should be able to handle domained-tokens.... | 19:49 |
| dolphm | ayoung: domain-scoped tokens? | 19:49 |
| ayoung | dolphm, tokens where the user is per domain... | 19:49 |
| henrynash | ayoung: I was just thinking that…if it didn't know about domains, it just won't match anything | 19:49 |
| dolphm | ayoung: i'm not following | 19:50 |
| ayoung | bascially a keystone deployment with multiple domains | 19:50 |
| ayoung | henrynash, I think that we need V2 to be domain aware | 19:50 |
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| dolphm | ayoung: scope v2 to resources owned by the default domain | 19:50 |
| ayoung | henrynash, dolphm I have to head home. I'll be back on line in about 45 minutes | 19:51 |
| henrynash | ayoung: sorry V2 of what? what a policy engine expect to able to consume? | 19:51 |
| dolphm | ayoung: cool | 19:51 |
| henrynash | ayoung: ok | 19:51 |
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| henrynash | I'll be back on later too | 19:51 |
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| topol | ayoung: I updated https://etherpad.openstack.org/devstack-ldap but I have some questions for you | 20:53 |
| ayoung | topol, looking... | 20:54 |
| ayoung | topol, fire away | 20:54 |
| topol | So I did a manual install of openldap on ubuntu | 20:54 |
| ayoung | topol, which version of openldap did it install? | 20:55 |
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| topol | some of the commands pull up a simplified user interface in which to enter the admin password , pick a database, and choose some options | 20:55 |
| ayoung | topol, as I recall, there are two main ways that OpenLDAP sets up for initial config | 20:56 |
| topol | most of devstack is a pretty silent install. You may have to enter a password (that gets stored in localrc) | 20:56 |
| topol | k, is there a more silent approach | 20:56 |
| ayoung | for Fedora, I used ldap using a local socket to the admin schema | 20:56 |
| ayoung | I have notes... | 20:56 |
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| topol | I was focusing on the ubuntu appraoch described in http://wiki.openstack.org/OpenLDAP | 20:57 |
| ayoung | http://fpaste.org/WSKM/ | 20:58 |
| ayoung | that is in an ldif | 20:58 |
| ayoung | I kept it in | 20:58 |
| ayoung | ~/etc/manager.ldif | 20:58 |
| ayoung | and to configure I ran: | 20:58 |
| ayoung | sudo ldapmodify -Y EXTERNAL -H ldapi:/// -f ~/etc//manager.ldif | 20:59 |
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| ayoung | topol, so, yeah, I bascially did what that said | 21:00 |
| topol | I saw that same snippet in http://wiki.openstack.org/OpenLDAP | 21:00 |
| topol | will that work for ubuntu openldap as well? | 21:00 |
| ayoung | I'd assume we would generate the password the same way the mysql passwords are done and cached in localrc | 21:00 |
| jgriffith | o/ | 21:00 |
| jgriffith | bahh | 21:00 |
| ayoung | then run that through slappasswd | 21:00 |
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| ayoung | topol, so LDAP_PASSWORD=freeipa4all in localrc | 21:02 |
| ayoung | and you would run slappasswd -h {SSHA} -s $LDAP_PASSWORD | 21:02 |
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| ayoung | there probably needs to be a temporary manager.ldif.template in devstack/lib/daps | 21:03 |
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| topol | any reason why http://wiki.openstack.org/OpenLDAP states that for ubuntu setup to do it with the "different approach" | 21:03 |
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| ayoung | Ubuntu 11.10 topol | 21:04 |
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| ayoung | was probably before they caught up to the version of OpenLDAP shipped with Fedora 16 | 21:04 |
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| topol | ayoung, gotcha. was hoping it was something like that | 21:05 |
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| ayoung | topol, good to know that Fedora and Ubuntu will be done the same way, if only for now | 21:05 |
| topol | ayoung, I will manually try the steps you suggest. do you of an easy way for me to blow my installed LDAP away so I can start over? | 21:07 |
| ayoung | topol, once you have something somewhat functional, you can post it to git using git review and setting it to draft. It is the -D command line option. Once you do that, there is some way to share the review with me. I think you add me as a reviewer on gerrit. | 21:08 |
| ayoung | topol, are you working in a VM? | 21:08 |
| topol | yes | 21:08 |
| ayoung | I would probably checkpoint it the pre-installed state and just reset it to the checkpoint | 21:09 |
| ayoung | howver, you probably want to get it back to the pre-installed state | 21:09 |
| ayoung | I think that with apt you can do a purge | 21:09 |
| ayoung | apt-get --purge remove <package> | 21:10 |
| ayoung | apt-get clean | 21:10 |
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| ayoung | topol, you also might want to make sure you know where all the files are that OpenLDAP uses. There are probably config files in /etc and the rest of the data under /var, probably in /var/lib | 21:10 |
| ayoung | /var/lib/ldap/ is owned by openldap-servers on my system | 21:11 |
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| ayoung | so when you purge, it should not only remove the package, but all of the files in /var/lib/ldap or whereever and /etc/openldap/slapd.d/ or whereever Debian based installs put them | 21:12 |
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| ayoung | topol, something like dpkg-query -f '${Package} ${Status}\n' -W | grep config-files$ | cut -d" " -f1 | 21:13 |
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| ayoung | topol, But my Debian Know-how is a little rusty. | 21:14 |
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| topol | ayoung, I was able to get my lad cleaned out. for the initial install would I use the sudo yum install or the sudo apt-get? | 21:26 |
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| ayoung | topol, for ubuntu, apt-get | 21:26 |
| ayoung | yum is fedora | 21:26 |
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| topol | ugh. the sudo apt-get prompts for a password with a funny dialogue box. Ideally it should have a silent install option and I could pass that command the admin password | 21:28 |
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| dolphm | henrynash: when do you plan on having bandwidth to implement domain name spaces? | 21:34 |
| topol | ayoung, looks like there is a silent install option: sudo DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive | 21:34 |
| ayoung | topol, lets avoid that for now | 21:34 |
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| ayoung | I'd like to keep Debian and Fedora in sync. UNless that exact command exists on both, we are better off managing it directly | 21:35 |
| topol | K, sowhat would work for both? | 21:36 |
| topol | I dont have a fedora machine to test on | 21:38 |
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| henrynash | dolphm: ready to start either domain-scoping or namespaces now... | 21:44 |
| dolphm | henrynash: domain-scoping is blocked by a v3 auth api implementation, right? | 21:45 |
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| henrynash | dolphm: yes. really…that's why I was asking about that…. | 21:46 |
| dolphm | henrynash: k, i think a v3 auth implementation is the highest priority item for grizzly-m3, as it's obviously a blocker for doing anything with v3 besides management | 21:46 |
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| dolphm | henrynash: i'm also thinking that if we don't do namespaces before grizzly-m3, it might be worth pulling it back out of the spec, calling the result v3.0, and then putting it back in for v3.1 | 21:47 |
| henrynash | dolphm: I can do some backend prep work for domain-scoping but in the end need to plug in the aug tstuff | 21:47 |
| dolphm | henrynash: yeah | 21:47 |
| dolphm | henrynash: i wonder if gyee has anything he can post up for a WIP review | 21:48 |
| dolphm | henrynash: so we can start working on the client against that | 21:48 |
| dolphm | etc | 21:48 |
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| henrynash | dolphm: I don;t think name-sapce will take that long, not that much code…so we could do it for m3 | 21:48 |
| dolphm | henrynash: alright | 21:48 |
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| henrynash | dolphm: so maybe i get that done fast, then as we get the v3 auth stuff up, can then move to the scoping | 21:49 |
| dolphm | henrynash: technically we don't need client support by the time grizzly-m3 lands | 21:49 |
| henrynash | dolphm: agreed | 21:50 |
| vishy | jgriffith: made one more request on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/19495/ | 21:51 |
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| jgriffith | vishy: I'm fine either way on that one, I'll change it | 21:53 |
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| jgriffith | vishy: done, and updated cinder.conf.sample | 21:56 |
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| jgriffith | vishy: I'll keep an eye out for the next version that implements mirrored thins, but for now we're hosed | 21:56 |
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| dolphm | henrynash: after the spec change, we already have client + server support for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/18706/ ... correct? | 21:58 |
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| topol | ayoung: fortunately I had a pre ldap install snapshot. Otherwise cleaning it completely off seemed very difficult | 22:28 |
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| nati_ueno | danwent: Hi Are you around? | 22:29 |
| nati_ueno | danwent: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/19436/7,publish I mentioned bp in commit message "implements bp quantum-security-groups-iptables-ovs" | 22:29 |
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| danwent | nati_ueno: you are right. seems like for some reason LP did not get updated automatically… either that or i just got confused. one sec. | 22:30 |
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| danwent | nati_ueno: actually, i see it on LP now. you can ignore my comment, sorry! | 22:31 |
| nati_ueno | danwent: I got it :) | 22:31 |
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| henrynash | dolphm: if you mean, do we have client and server support for grant roles on a domain…then yes | 22:37 |
| dolphm | henrynash: was asking if i could mark the bp as Implemented, which I did | 22:37 |
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| dolphm | henrynash: i feel comfortable that it's satisfied, but wanted to double check with you | 22:37 |
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| henrynash | dolphm: yes, although there is a bug raised to say that although you can set them, they are not yet honored (….and of course we really need the domain scoping for that) | 22:41 |
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| dolphm | henrynash: exactly | 22:41 |
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| dolphm | vishy: what do you use to produce this? http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2012-November/002648.html | 22:57 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/ceilometer: Update pep8 to 1.3.3 https://review.openstack.org/19213 | 23:00 |
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| vishy | dolphm: http://173.203.107.207/~soren/stats/ | 23:03 |
| dolphm | vishy: ah, cool -- thanks | 23:04 |
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| gugl | hi all, where is the best document to follow in order to install openstack grizzly | 23:14 |
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| vishy | jgriffith: btw, cinderclient doesn't support cinder delete --force | 23:50 |
| vishy | jgriffith: and it probably should | 23:50 |
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| jgriffith | vishy: I'll add it | 23:51 |
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