Tuesday, 2012-12-11

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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/nova: Fix bw_usage_update issue with conductor  https://review.openstack.org/1781300:22
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nati_uenojeblair: Hi are you around? Could you review this patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/17816/1/devstack-vm-gate.sh ? just one word addtion for devstack gating00:36
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clarkbnati_ueno: I think he is out today. I will take a look once jenkins is done running th echeck tests00:48
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/nova: Correctly init XenAPIDriver in vm_vdi_cleaner.py  https://review.openstack.org/1780000:52
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gongyshnati_ueno: ping00:55
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nati_uenoclarkb: Thanks!01:03
nati_uenogongysh: pong01:03
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gongysharosen: ping01:09
arosengongysh: pong01:09
gongysharosen:01:10
gongyshhttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1hqcivTHnB7yrcs834CpM6XF6sUEdF98d0WGFctgtyMA/edit01:10
gongysharosen: Why do we have a default empty rules in default security group?01:10
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arosengongysh: by default , the default security group that ports are a part of should allow all outgoing traffic but no incoming traffic. It should also allow communication betweens ports that are in the same default security group.01:13
arosengongysh:  I didn't any of the iptables work for this. Can you point me to the line you are talking about ?01:13
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arosengongysh:  oh i see01:14
arosengongysh:  one sec*01:14
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arosengongysh: By default, all egress is allowed from the security group until you add outbound rules to the group (then only the egress you specified is allowed.01:15
arosengongysh:   same as this: http://docs.amazonwebservices.com/AmazonVPC/latest/UserGuide/VPC_SecurityGroups.html01:16
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gongysharosen: problem is why there are two empty ingress rules when I run  quantum security-group-rule-list?01:17
arosengongysh:  these rules are for this:01:21
arosengongysh:  Instances in a group can't talk to each other unless you add rules allowing it           (exception: instances in the default security group have these rules by default).01:21
arosenThese two rules specify the source_group_id to be the default security group.01:22
zyluoyaguang, hi01:22
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gongysharosen: so all the Vms in default group accepts traffic from any IPs, right?01:23
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gongysharosen: since the ingress rule have no source IP restrict.01:25
gongysharosen: and no port restrict either.01:25
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arosengongysh:  no the source restriction is based on the members of the source_group_id.01:25
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arosengongysh:  By default there is a default security group that all ports are put into. That default security group have a rule in it that says allow ingress from anyone  in the source_group. Which is all of the ports that are part of the security group.01:27
arosengongysh:  you can either specify source_group OR source_ip_prefix.01:28
gongysharoson:  ok, understood. what if we have both?01:29
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arosengongysh:  you shouldn't have both.01:30
arosengongysh:  https://github.com/openstack/quantum/blob/master/quantum/db/securitygroups_db.py#L31101:30
arosenThat line is what does the check for preventing both.01:30
arosengongysh:  I am assuming you mean both in the same rule right?01:30
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gongysharosen: yes. I got it.  but have we avoided the loop:01:31
gongysharosen: sga's source_group_id is sgb, sgb's is sga?01:32
arosengongysh:  so in that case members in sga and sgb can talk to each other.01:34
arosengongysh:  alternatively:01:34
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arosensga's source_group_id is sgb  (and not the same the otherway around). Then members in sgb are allowed to make a connection to sga's members but not the otherway around.01:35
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gongysharoson: got it. thanks. I think we have no such des in admin doc.01:36
gongysharoson: or not in such detailed way.01:36
arosengongysh: yea I think you are correctly.01:36
arosenunfortunately *01:37
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gongysharosen: why unfortunately?01:41
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arosengongysh:  because we don't have such a detailed example. We should definitely add one.01:42
gongysharosen: and do u have plan to direct nova security group calls to quantum ones?01:42
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gongysharosen: Is it possible? I mean if quantum security group concepts and nova ones are interpolatable?01:43
arosengongysh:  Right now we are leveraging the nova security_group_handler though this goes through the nova database so they both can't work at the same time right now.01:44
arosengongysh:  yea i believe that they could be both used at the same time if nova just proxies the calls directly to quantum.01:44
gongysharosen: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/17774/1/doc/src/docbkx/openstack-network-connectivity-admin/ch_adv_features.xml01:46
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gongysharosen: you said we will not use the sgh hack-like way.01:46
gongysharosen: do u have plan to do it?01:46
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arosengongysh:  I have a blueprint created for it against nova if you are interested in doing it. Otherwise I plan to do it.01:47
gongysharosen: u have more expertise on it. But If u have no time for it, I can arrange.01:48
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arosengongysh:  I plan to start this Thursday  but if you are looking for things to do by all means :)01:52
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gongysharosen: no, I am busy with reviewing and multi-host stuff, and doc stuff.01:54
gongysharosen:  I can help to doc it when u are done with that.01:55
arosengongysh:  sounds good np01:56
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/quantum: Remove unnecessary port deletion  https://review.openstack.org/1776907:43
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Adri2000I'm looking for the slide featuring participating companies' logos that appears in a lot of presentation. anyone knows where I can find this?10:01
Adri2000I know I could do it myself from https://www.openstack.org/foundation/companies/ ... but I'd rather not :)10:01
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ttxRyan_Lane: done10:32
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/nova: Make nova/virt use aggregate['metadetails']  https://review.openstack.org/1780613:38
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*** jeblair changes topic to "OpenStack development || Support is in #openstack || Current Jenkins issues: https://etherpad.openstack.org/ci-issues-log"13:50
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jeblairNova unit tests are currently leaking tmpfiles faster than Jenkins tmpcleaners can keep up13:52
jeblairFixes are pending; current info at https://etherpad.openstack.org/ci-issues-log13:52
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/python-novaclient: Add nova client support for nova-manage account scrub command  https://review.openstack.org/1684214:03
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/keystone: Adding downgrade steps for migration scripts.  https://review.openstack.org/1690914:03
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/python-novaclient: Adds nova client support for nova-manage floating command  https://review.openstack.org/1703714:12
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/nova: Move all temporary files into a single /tmp subdir.  https://review.openstack.org/1782514:36
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anteaya_iannegentle_: hello15:01
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/nova: Make DNS drivers inherit interface.  https://review.openstack.org/1780715:14
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annegentle_anteaya_i: good morning!15:18
anteaya_iannegentle_: morning anne15:19
anteaya_iannegentle_: I was spending some time on the mailing lists yesterday and learned a lot15:19
* annegentle_ is in Python class all week15:19
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anteaya_iannegentle_: nice, I hope you are having fun15:19
annegentle_anteaya_i: so I won't be super responsive :)15:19
anteaya_iannegentle_: no worries, small thing15:19
anteaya_iannegentle_: I read that the mailing lists are focused on topic and not audience15:20
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anteaya_iannegentle_: and I looked at the openstack.org community page15:20
anteaya_iannegentle_: the openstack-dev is titled developers, and I wondered if the point about topic would be better served if it read developement?15:21
anteaya_iannegentle_: what do you think?15:21
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annegentle_anteaya_i: I get reminded of this too. It's not that openstack-dev is "for developers" but "about future development" of OpenStack.15:21
annegentle_anteaya_i: mailing list naming is something we discuss at least biannually at the Summit :)15:22
annegentle_anteaya_i: and we should probably do openstack-ops for operators15:22
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annegentle_anteaya_i: etc.15:22
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anteaya_iannegentle_: okay, so what I am hearing is that you will be discussing this at the next summit and changes will be implimented, where warrented, at the outcome of those discussions, correct?15:23
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annegentle_anteaya_i: mailing list name renames are not to be taken lightly with thousands of subscribers affected, also.15:24
annegentle_anteaya_i: yep, that's a typical pattern around here :)15:24
anteaya_iannegentle_: I agree, hence my question and I appreciate the answer15:24
anteaya_iannegentle_: glad to know the dance steps, thanks for your patience teaching me15:24
anteaya_iannegentle_: :D15:24
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annegentle_anteaya_i: good questions :) No problem at all.15:24
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anteaya_iannegentle_: happy pythoning!15:26
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/quantum: DRY for network() and subnet() in test_db_plugin.py  https://review.openstack.org/1779315:37
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/quantum: Adds validity checks for ethertype and protocol  https://review.openstack.org/1778815:37
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themadcanudistHey guys, I figure this may be a dev issue: I'm running swift 1.7.5 + swiftclient (Trunk) and trying to run "swift-dispersion-populate". It runs, creates all the containers and then gets a "411 Length Required" Error when trying to PUT the objects. This is *very* weird. Here is the traceback: http://paste.openstack.org/show/27832/ in full detail. Can anyone assist?15:44
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/nova: Don't leak info from libvirt LVM backed instances  https://review.openstack.org/1785615:48
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kbringardcan anyone briefly explain to me why VM's entries get tagged in the leases file in Folsom?16:27
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kbringardfor instance: first VM I spin up gets ,net:NW-1016:28
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kbringardthen subsequent ones get .net:NW-1116:28
kbringard,net:NW-11 I mean16:28
kbringardthen, there's an opts file which tells it not to give NW-11 a default gateway16:28
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/python-novaclient: Adds nova client support for nova-manage network command  https://review.openstack.org/1687116:29
kbringardmy guess is it's related to the use_single_default_gateway flag16:29
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kbringardah, yea, it totally is16:30
kbringardso I need to look at the code here, but I'd wager this flag is bugged16:30
kbringardit should only be tagging NW-11 to subsequent interfaces on the same instance16:31
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kbringardbut it's tagging all subsequent interfaces on any instance16:31
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/python-novaclient: Adds support for injected_file_path_bytes quota.  https://review.openstack.org/1714516:44
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/python-novaclient: Adds support for key_pairs quota.  https://review.openstack.org/1714616:44
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winston-dmarkmc: ping16:51
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kbringardoh, actually, it looks like this bug has already been fixed: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/107585916:58
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1075859 in nova/essex "use_single_default_gateway does not function correctly" [Medium,In progress]16:58
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danpbcan anyone tell me how I can programatically obtain the current Nova release version in the libvirt driver.py ?17:09
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/python-novaclient: Fixed nics param ignored when bdm is specified  https://review.openstack.org/1760117:10
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danpbah, there's a versions.py module17:12
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/python-novaclient: add host-update help info param.  https://review.openstack.org/1777817:27
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/python-novaclient: Fix a wrong substition for '-h' in bash completion  https://review.openstack.org/1770017:28
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/nova: use file instead of tap for non-blockdevice images on Xen  https://review.openstack.org/1712617:40
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/nova: Fix handling of unimplemented host actions  https://review.openstack.org/1756517:43
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/nova: Add get_backdoor_port to nova-conductor.  https://review.openstack.org/1780417:45
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/nova: i18n raise Exception messages  https://review.openstack.org/1779517:45
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/nova: Consider reserved count in os-user-limits extension  https://review.openstack.org/1780517:47
jaypipesmikal: around?17:47
jaypipesmikal: I'm wondering if libvirt_snapshots_directory=$instances_path/snapshots is relevant regarding the directory that is used *when constructing the snapshot*? IIRC, $TMPDIR is used by libvirt/qemu when doing the qemu-img snapshot work, regardless of what libvirt_snapshots_directory is. Is this correct?17:48
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/nova: Modified sample tests to FlavorExtraData API.  https://review.openstack.org/1780917:52
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/python-novaclient: Adds support for security group/rules quotas.  https://review.openstack.org/1714717:55
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/nova: Map cinder snapshot statuses to ec2.  https://review.openstack.org/1650717:58
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anteaya_imarkmc: ping18:06
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mordredmikal: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/16498/ has 2 +2s but no apprv...18:21
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jaypipesvishy: so why is the default availability zone for nova stuff (and other OpenStack services) always "RegionOne"?18:24
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kbringardjaypipes: because "RegionTwo" wouldn't make sense ;-)18:30
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mordredvishy, sdague, mikal: could I bribe one of you to go look at https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:master+topic:bp/general-bare-metal-provisioning-framework,n,z ?18:31
jaypipeskbringard: :P18:31
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sdaguemordred: I'll go take a look later in the day. I've got to push more review time off until after 5pm today to get some other work done :)  especially as the baremetal stuff is big18:33
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mordredsdague: thanks!18:40
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/python-novaclient: Adds --os-cache to replace old --no-cache.  https://review.openstack.org/1769219:03
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hub_capmarkmc: hey dude, are we waiting on Kölker to approve my wsgi.Server bugfix? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/17615/19:09
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ayoungdolphm, you around yet?19:45
mikaljaypipes: sorry, was asleep. I'm not sure on the snapshots thing. I know it changed but I'd have to read the code to remember how it works now.19:46
mikalmordred: fixed19:46
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mordredrussellb, markmc: if you get bored: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:master+topic:bp/general-bare-metal-provisioning-framework,n,z19:50
mordredmikal: thanks!19:50
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anteaya_iannegentle_: list is up, thank you20:11
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annegentle_anteaya_i: congrats and welcome!20:13
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anteaya_iannegentle_: thank you!20:17
stevemaranyone willing to help a noobie out? trying to set up devstack, running into problems starting keystone20:17
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anteaya_istevemar: as one noobie to another, you can't ask any question I consider silly20:18
anteaya_istevemar: I will do what I can20:18
stevemarthanks :)20:18
anteaya_i:D20:18
stevemarI'll copy the error that i'm seeing, apologies if it gets messy20:18
stevemarUnable to communicate with identity service: {"error": {"message": "An unexpected error prevented the server from fulfilling your request. (OperationalError) (1045, \"Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: YES)\") None None", "code": 500, "title": "Internal Server Error"}}. (HTTP 500)20:19
stevemar+ KEYSTONE_SERVICE=20:19
stevemar+ keystone endpoint-create --region RegionOne --service_id --publicurl 'http://9.23.6.170:$(public_port)s/v2.0' --adminurl 'http://9.23.6.170:$(admin_port)s/v2.0' --internalurl 'http://9.23.6.170:$(public_port)s/v2.0'20:19
stevemarusage: keystone endpoint-create [--region <endpoint-region>] --service-id20:19
stevemar                                <service-id> [--publicurl <public-url>]20:19
stevemar                                [--adminurl <admin-url>]20:19
stevemar                                [--internalurl <internal-url>]20:19
stevemarkeystone endpoint-create: error: argument --service-id/--service_id: expected one argument20:19
anteaya_istevemar: can you copy to a pastie and post the pastie url?20:19
anteaya_istevemar: it is easier to read and doesn't mess up the channel20:19
stevemarah okay20:19
anteaya_ithank you20:19
sgranthe real error is  \"Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: YES)\"20:20
sgranthat comes from mysql20:20
stevemarthere we go20:20
stevemarhttp://pastie.org/551284720:20
dolphmstevemar: sgran: +1, sql configuration in keystone.conf is bad20:20
dolphmstevemar: and endpoint-create is failing because it failed to create a service to attach the endpoint to20:21
stevemarhmm, okay, i'll start by looking at keystone.conf20:21
anteaya_istevemar: looks like you got a better grade of help than I could provide so well done20:24
stevemarthanks sgran, dolphm and anyeaya_i20:25
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anteaya_istevemar: did it get you any further?20:33
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stevemarnot yet20:38
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/nova: Improve virt/disk/mount/nbd test coverage.  https://review.openstack.org/1776020:45
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/nova: Revert "Simplify how ephemeral disks are created and named."  https://review.openstack.org/1781520:46
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stevemaranteaya_i, for fun, I took out the part in the localrc file that specifies keystone, so it is just cinder, mysql and rabbit. But now i'm seeing a similar error when cinder is starting20:49
dolphmstevemar: did you verify the sql credentials it's trying to use?20:50
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anteaya_iI have devstack running on a dedicated hard drive (ubuntu 12.04 server) on my laptop. I am solely command line over here. I have a separate hard drive with my regular OS with graphics on it. I pushed two patches (git review -s) without errors but I can't see my review.openstack.org page in lynx (no javascript). My mentor can't see my patches on my page.20:54
anteaya_iIs there anything I can do prior to shutting off the server on this OS to retrieve the urls to the patches. Would they be logged somewhere?20:54
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anteaya_iI was just told to get the change id from git log. Thanks.20:56
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anteaya_iOne of my patches created a change-id and one of my patches did not. Anyone know how I can get the commit that did not generate a change-id to generate a change-id?21:06
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ayoungdolphm?21:12
markmcanteaya_i, try 'git commit --amend'21:12
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anteaya_imarkmc: I will try, thank you21:14
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markmcanteaya_i, np, let me know if that doesn't work21:15
anteaya_imarkmc: it worked thank you21:15
anteaya_imarkmc: do you have time for another question?21:16
markmcanteaya_i, cool21:16
markmcanteaya_i, sure21:17
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anteaya_imarkmc: thanks, I have just been accepted as one of three interns with GNOME opw, iccha is my mentor. She told me that you are involved with the program as well. I understand Thursday is bug-squashing day.21:18
markmcanteaya_i, my only involvement was "I think this is a great idea" :)21:19
anteaya_imarkmc: I would like to participate to the extent that I am able. Iccha is too busy to attend but said you might be involved. May I buddy up with you to ask silly questions and learn how to squash bugs?21:19
markmcanteaya_i, yeah, bug squashing day on thursday21:19
anteaya_imarkmc: that is good enough for me, so thank you21:19
zykes-ayoung: ping21:20
markmcanteaya_i, sure, sounds good21:20
markmcanteaya_i, I may be a bit distracted and unavailable later in the day, but I'll do my best21:20
markmcanteaya_i, utc timezone here21:20
zykes-could I easily migrate from sql to an existing ldap strucutre ?21:20
anteaya_imarkmc: I will be unavailable later in the day too, Eastern timezone here, currently 16:2021:20
ayoungzykes-, define easily?21:20
anteaya_imarkmc: any assistance appreciated and thank you21:21
zykes-ayoung: as in not destroying my whole current setup : p21:21
markmcanteaya_i, cool, np21:21
ayoungzykes-, well, you need to make sure your existing LDAP works as is, and then you would need to port the data from SQL on over:  roles and tenants21:21
ayoungSo it should be possible, but we don;t have tools to support it.  Shouldn't be too bad, though21:22
anteaya_imarkmc: thank you21:22
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cp16netAnyone know if there is a way of viewing a diff between patch sets in gerrit from the browser UI?21:25
ayoungcp16net, not a usable one21:25
cp16netoh yeah?21:25
ayoungcp16net, yeah, you can set the base for the diff, but it is not what you want21:26
cp16nethow do others handle large commit changes that have many change set patches?21:26
hub_capayoung: i have a big commit in reddwarf and its hard to see what ive "added" between them, so the base diff might just work21:26
ayoungcp16net, mostly by eyeballing that the differences are what the author says they are.21:27
cp16netjoy :-P21:27
hub_capsadface21:27
ayounghub_cap, you can always try to do it in your git repo:21:27
cp16netayoung: thanks for the info!21:27
hub_capayoung: i told him to do that ;)21:27
ayoungtry this21:27
cp16netyeah i complained about that :-P21:27
hub_capcp16net: ^ ^21:27
ayounghub_cap, what is the commit?21:27
ayounger review21:27
cp16netheres the review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/17561/21:27
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hub_capi told him to fetch and diff them21:28
ayoungyeah, that is probably your best bet21:28
hub_capsweet, i think thats do-able ayoung <321:28
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cp16netyeah thanks ayoung i appreciate your input21:29
ayounghub_cap, the fetch line is in the browser:21:29
cp16netyup21:29
ayounggit fetch https://review.openstack.org/stackforge/reddwarf refs/changes/61/17561/6 && git checkout FETCH_HEAD21:29
ayoungI don't have reddwarf cloned21:29
hub_capayoung: no biggie, cp16net can figure it out fo sure21:30
ayoungbut you would do that, and do the previous commit, and the git diff.  I recommend using difftool21:30
ayounghub_cap, and idea how to get difftool to do it all in one diff, as opposed to opening each individual file?21:30
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zykes-ayoung: deploying RD ? :)21:30
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ayoungzykes-, what is RD?21:30
hub_capive not used difftool, can u xargs difftool it?21:31
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/nova: Add coverage extension to nova API.  https://review.openstack.org/1446821:31
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zykes-ayoung: the whole ldap thing, would I need to port tenant id etc to there as well ?21:31
hub_capayoung thx again, cp16net is ONIT21:32
cp16netye21:32
ayoungzykes-, you really are hoping I have a magic wand, aren;t you?21:32
zykes-ayoung: no, just wondering what I would need to port over.21:33
ayoungzykes-, so yeah, you need tenants and roles in there.21:34
zykes-ayoung: also in terms of possibly documenting it if I did it, bad idea or? I'm not trying to be "stupid" .21:34
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ayoungzykes-, I just got ambushed by a meeting21:34
zykes-ayoung: i'll look into it tmrw and document it, would be useful wouldn't it ? ;P21:36
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/nova: Catch ProcessExecutionError when building config drives.  https://review.openstack.org/1752321:37
ayoungzykes-, very much so, cool bean21:37
ayoungs21:37
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/horizon: Fixes bug 1086290 https://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/+bug/1086290, edit-flavor broken when flavor has extra specs. Includes unittest for the same, and modified mock data to to include extra-specs Change-Id: I286d97568daff26bbd03418b2ea0b808caceadba  https://review.openstack.org/1752622:03
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1086290 in horizon "Edit flavor with extra specs fails" [High,In progress]22:03
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1086290 in horizon "Edit flavor with extra specs fails" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/108629022:03
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/horizon: Removes unused imports  https://review.openstack.org/1776422:04
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/swift: Allow dot test runners from any dir  https://review.openstack.org/1693322:07
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sdaguedtroyer: can you provide enough feedback on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/17491/ to unblock the -2? it's currently holding up some other changes that Vincent wrote which are behind that one22:10
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/ceilometer: remove direct nova db access from ceilometer.  https://review.openstack.org/1766022:16
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dtroyer-sdague: I wish he wouldn't daisy-chain so many commits like that.  It's always the first one that I have an issue with too...22:33
dtroyer-I suppose I can live with this now22:34
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/nova: Set instance_ref['node'] in _set_instance_host_and_node  https://review.openstack.org/1759022:39
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sdaguedtroyer: or give feedback as to the concerns so they are fixable :)22:44
sdagueI'm ok either way22:44
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sdagueit just seemed stuck22:44
sdaguedevananda: about?22:44
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devanandasdague: for a few minutes :)22:52
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sdaguedevananda: so I was going through the baremetal patches, at least a couple. One of the things that bugs me is their wild inconsistency on i18n, left some comments on that22:53
sdaguei get that there isn't a firm policy at this point, but patches at least need to be consistent :)22:54
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devanandasdague: is thta enough to block the patches?22:58
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devanandasdague: the origin of the inconsistnecy is probably the original patches not doing _(), and me adding it where ever I touched something ;)22:59
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/python-glanceclient: Support --os-cacert  https://review.openstack.org/1769823:08
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sdaguedevananda: it's one of those things that once it gets in will get forgotten :)23:18
sdaguedevananda: I didn't -2 them. So it's not actually enough to block, but I can't feel good about a +2 with that kind of inconsistency in them23:18
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devanandasdague: fair 'nuf. if that's the biggest issye you can find, i should be pretty happy :)23:20
sdagueyeh, I don't "love" the rest of the code, but I can live with it23:20
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sdagueI was really close to +2, then that just got to me23:21
devanandacool. i'll fix the first 3 patches asap23:21
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