Tuesday, 2012-11-27

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jgriffithwinston-d: I may know the difference between the two VM's07:47
jgriffithwinston-d: The first one doesn't run apt-get update07:48
jgriffithwinston-d: Nope, never mind... that's not it07:48
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/quantum: Removes quantum.tests.test_api_v2._uuid()  https://review.openstack.org/1678707:55
winston-djgriffith, i'm still waiting for my devstack to refresh... it takes quite a while07:56
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jgriffithwinston-d: I can't reproduce it on either box no :(08:03
jgriffithwinston-d: But... I suspect there's a relationship to the dd to the LVM snapshot issue here08:03
winston-djgriffith, that's possible!08:03
jgriffithwinston-d: Only thing that makes sense08:04
jgriffithI'm going to try a different method of delete08:04
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winston-djgriffith, sounds good.08:04
jgriffithbut I htink I'll wait til tomorrow and go to bed for now :)08:04
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jgriffithwinston-d: I sent pbrady an email letting him know why I reverted and what the status is08:05
winston-djgriffith, yeah, it's already too late. gdnite, have a sound sleep. i'll try and see if i can reproduce the issue and leave message to you.08:05
jgriffithwinston-d: sounds good... thanks, talk to you later08:05
winston-djgriffith, k, bye~08:06
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avishayHi all. Anyone know how to enable CHAP authentication?08:25
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/quantum: Fix syntax error in nvplib  https://review.openstack.org/1694109:05
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/quantum: Fixes pep8 nit  https://review.openstack.org/1694909:05
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/nova: Remove unnecessary topic argument.  https://review.openstack.org/1693709:56
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/nova: Add migration_update to conductor.  https://review.openstack.org/1693809:57
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/nova: Don't hard code the xen hvmloader path.  https://review.openstack.org/1659910:04
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/quantum: Make sure we can update when there is no gateway port linked to it  https://review.openstack.org/1694510:22
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KIShi11:57
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zykes-KIS: hi!12:08
KISi have a problem with glance image-create12:08
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KISi'm trying to upload an image but i get a error HTTPOverlimit: HTTP 41312:09
KISwhy?12:09
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sgranhttp://lmgtfy.com/?q=http+413&l=112:22
zykes-anyone here had a problem with prettytables and row count in results not adding up ? I have 2 items in a list that have diff counts so prettytables says they are diff ;p12:34
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KISyou think i didn't search this on google? hah.... this is a particular case , not depending on what is http 413... i want to know what is the source of the error from glance12:47
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sgranhttp 413 means 'you gave me something too big'.  When uploading something to glance, a reply of 'too big' seems fairly straight forward to me ...12:53
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rohitkharlowja: ping13:14
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HiteshHello Guys,13:32
HiteshI am receving this error -> (403, 'Forbidden')13:32
HiteshI have disabled keystone13:32
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Hiteshcan anyone tell me how can I givve correct use in OS_USERNAME variable in order to access the resources?13:33
HiteshI have export OS_AUTH_STRATEGY=noauth13:34
Hitesharosen: Hi Aron,13:35
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jaypipesafazekas: congrats. just approved your EC2 tempest patches... Jenkins success :)15:02
jaypipesafazekas: thx for your patience!15:02
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afazekasjaypipes: Thank you :)15:16
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davidkranzsdague: Ping15:30
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sdaguedavidkranz: pong15:34
davidkranzsdague: I added you to the hourly.15:35
davidkranzsdague: Daryl15:35
sdaguedavidkranz: great, thanks15:35
davidkranzsdague: Daryl's suggestion to grab the error info from the database seemed reasonable.15:35
davidkranzsdague: Are you planning to solve this issue with the ERROR's?15:35
sdaguedavidkranz: mtreinish is going to check in with vishy later today to see where things stand, and look at it if it's needed15:36
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davidkranzsdague: OK, sounds good.15:37
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/glance: Unused variables removed  https://review.openstack.org/1696016:03
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jaypipeszul: does 12.04 have Folsom OpenStack packages?16:20
jaypipesttx: ^^16:20
zuljaypipes: er...yes :)16:20
zuljaypipes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/CloudArchive16:21
jaypipeszul: cheers.16:21
jaypipeskbringard: ^^16:21
kbringardzul: thanks16:21
kbringardah, it's in proposed16:22
kbringardoh wait, folsom, I see16:23
kbringard:facepalm:16:23
vishyjgriffith: ping16:23
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hungry-eglynnndipanov: hola16:30
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ndipanoveglynn, hi16:30
ndipanoveglyn so re https://review.openstack.org/#/c/16099/16:31
eglynnyep16:31
ndipanoveglynn, ^^16:31
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ndipanoveglynn, tl;dr is16:31
ndipanoveglynn, having images always present is a nice feature form consistency side16:32
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/cinder: Make pep8 checks a bit stricter.  https://review.openstack.org/1684016:32
ndipanoveglynn,  there are several aproaches to simplifying boot from volume16:32
eglynnndipanov: yep, so the question is whether this consistency is worth modifying your approach16:32
ndipanoveglynn, and it could be done without sacrificing this consistency feat.16:33
ndipanoveglynn, fair enough -16:33
ndipanoveglynn, do you see any immediate issues16:33
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eglynnndipanov: and further shifting course a bit on the end-goal for https://etherpad.openstack.org/grizzly-boot-from-volumes16:33
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ndipanoveglynn, with regards to celliometer for example?16:33
eglynnndipanov: well, there's a future-looking minor concern around the ImageId dimension for CloudWatch-style metrics reported from instances16:34
eglynnndipanov: with the "instances are alwyas booted from images" invarient, this dimension can always be set16:35
eglynnndipanov: with image-free instances, the dimension would have no meaning16:35
ndipanoveglynn, true16:35
eglynnndipanov: so the CW service would have to tolerant of it being unset (minor impl detail)16:35
ndipanoveglynn, or possible keep reference to images for volumes created from them16:36
ndipanoveglynn,  alos doable16:36
ndipanovs/alos/also16:36
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eglynnndipanov: fair point, if the bootable volume is created in the "new style"16:37
ndipanoveglynn, and the approach does save one trip to glance when starting from volume (not sure if really a relevant detail)16:37
ndipanoveglynn, yes - if the volume never came from an image - there will be no sense in that16:37
eglynnndipanov: the "old" style was to create the bootable volume via a builder instance16:38
ndipanoveglynn, so the invariant is ultimately broken16:38
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ndipanoveglynn, yes and the image still needed to be specified16:38
ndipanoveglynn, which didn't make any sense16:38
eglynnndipanov: yeah to grab the kernel and ramdisk ID only IIRC16:38
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ndipanoveglynn, but there can be usecases where those are not needed so in those16:39
eglynnndipanov: but yeah, I take your point, the link to the image ID was tenuous at best16:39
ndipanoveglynn, so having this builder instance aproach around for some time I would say that the invariant may have already been given up... if not officially16:40
ndipanoveglynn, because I can imagine a use case where for a number of instances the image ID makes no sense even if present16:41
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eglynnndipanov: the alternative idea thrown out in https://review.openstack.org/16099 creates a less tenuous connection16:41
eglynnndipanov: (and your idea just now of linking to the image ID that the volume was create from is an even stronger connection)16:41
eglynnndipanov: yep, so I'm agreeing with you, that the old invariant wasn't so compelling16:42
ndipanoveglynn, also we seem to have the image -> volume already built in cinder16:43
eglynnndipanov: question is whether it would make sense to construct a new instance/image ID invarient that's more solid16:43
ndipanoveglynn, although it's fairly new and could use some work16:43
eglynneglynn: yep, cinder create --image-id ... stylee?16:43
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ndipanoveglynn, hmmmm16:44
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ndipanoveglynn, do you think it's a discussion worht having on the dev list where there might be more glance/cinder people who will catch it and maybe chip in some ideas...16:45
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/quantum: Use auth_token middleware in keystoneclient.  https://review.openstack.org/1695816:46
eglynnndipanov: good idea, do you want to kick it off on the ML?16:46
ndipanoveglynn, or you could reply to my email from a few weeks back when I first posted the patches...16:47
ndipanoveglynn, since it's already there kind of16:47
eglynnndipanov: yes, I'll do that!16:47
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eglynn(and apols for not bringing it up then ...)16:47
ndipanoveglynn, thanks!16:47
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zykes-ndipanov: new to openstack ?16:59
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jaypipesayoung: Keystone doesn't have any Active Directory integration does it?17:01
ndipanovzykes-, relatively... <3 months17:01
ndipanovzykes-, that was less than 3, not a heart :)17:01
zykes-ah, haven't seen you here :p17:01
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ndipanovzykes-, yeah, I'm not very loud and I do nova mostly...17:02
zykes-;p17:02
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ayoungjaypipes, Don't you read the press reelases?17:18
jaypipesayoung: no.17:18
ayoungjaypipes, there have been many changes to make AD work for Griz 117:18
jaypipesayoung: cool, thx.17:19
jaypipesayoung: is it currently being tested in CI by anyone other than CERN?17:19
ayoungjaypipes, nope17:19
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jaypipesayoung: k, thx for the info.17:20
jaypipesayoung: some folks at AT&T are curious...17:21
ayoungjaypipes, very cool17:21
jaypipesayoung: LOL, not so sure about that ;)17:22
ayoungjaypipes, let them test it.17:23
jaypipesayoung: oh, that's fine... I was just not looking forward to "enterprise integration work".17:24
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ndipanovrussellb, ping18:06
russellbndipanov: pong18:07
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ndipanovrussellb, a question regarding the nodb-compute project18:07
russellbsure18:08
ndipanovrussellb, what is the 'approved' pattern atm if I need to hit the db from compute18:08
russellbdepends :)18:08
ndipanovrussellb, update in particular18:08
ndipanovrussellb, reads are straightforward18:08
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russellbupdates, check out nova-conductor18:08
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russellbwe've added instance_update and migration_update there so far18:09
russellbfollow the same pattern basically18:09
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ndipanovrussellb, ok - what I have sounds like it can be squeezed in the instance update18:09
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ndipanovrussellb, thanks18:09
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/quantum: fix so cisco plugin db model to not override count methods  https://review.openstack.org/1698918:28
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arosennati_ueno: ping18:42
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anteayaIn case anyone cares, I am an applicant with the GNOME Outreach Program for Women and want to work with OpenStack who is a program sponsor. Here is my blog on the topic: http://anteaya.github.com/gnome_opw/gnome_opw.html Feedback welcome.18:51
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/nova: Validate rxtx_factor as a float.  https://review.openstack.org/1697719:03
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/nova: Provide better error message for aggregate-create  https://review.openstack.org/1693519:10
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afazekasmikal: ping19:12
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heckjayoung: review approved19:17
heckjayoung: I'm not aware of a memcache that's totally in-memory on local except as fakes - memcache is a better solution so share cache across multiple API endpoints installed - straight KVS makes for a heavily fractured cache in that deployment setup19:18
ayoungheckj, of course.  But what we need is a way to abstract memcached out, and I thought maybe someone else needed that somewhere else too19:20
heckjayoung: yeah - any middleware pieces that want caching will run into this kind of issue19:21
heckjayoung: I'm not aware of the specifics though - which other thing needed that19:21
ayoungheckj, thanks for approving the review.  renumber the sql update scripts was getting old19:22
heckjayoung: word19:22
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/nova: Display errors when running nosetests  https://review.openstack.org/1560619:22
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/swift: Replace hard-coded test accounts with user-configured values  https://review.openstack.org/1698419:22
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/swift: added GoLang binding and CDMI to associated projects  https://review.openstack.org/1647619:23
ayoungheckj, BTW, I learned a neat trick about git rebase -i19:23
heckjayoung: ??19:23
ayoungfor example, I have a branch, trusts, that split off of a branch 'normalize'19:23
ayoungbut I keep making changes to the submitted review in the normalize branch19:23
ayoungso if I checkout trusts, and run git rebase -i HEAD~319:24
ayoungwhen the vi editor comes up, I replace the hash of the the old commit for 'normalize' with the one for the review you just approved, and it rebases correctly19:24
ayoungallows you to swap out one commit up the stack19:25
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ayoungheckj, make sense?  Is this something that you know  a better way how to do?19:26
heckjhaven't done that before - but it sounds pretty good19:27
ayoungheckj, http://www.fpaste.org/kqHR/19:28
heckjI've been just directly rebasing off gerrit/master and not trying to track any side branches19:28
ayoungheckj, dolphm this works if you have a series of changes, and the earlier ones keep getting code reviewed19:28
heckjit's a nice setup - I don't know of a better way to arrange that at all19:29
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clarkbwouldn `git rebase -i normalize` do the same thing?19:32
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notmynameheckj: ayoung: rather than putting a copy of swift's memcache ring in openstack-common, I'd recommend library-ifying it and publishing it on pypi (or eqiv) so that it can be used in more places19:33
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heckjnotmyname: there's similiar/equiv art out there as a pypi library, but I'm not aware of any one piece that implements everything we need19:34
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notmynameheckj: I only caught the tail of your conversation in -meeting, so maybe I don't know everything you need19:35
heckjnotmyname: right now I'm focused on making a repro setup and test to cover this going forward - once we have that, I'll dig into the underlying pieces and look for an optimal solution19:36
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heckjAlex Yang suggested and was driving some of that patching - has a BP open in openstack common, so intended to take advantage of any work he's done if I can19:36
notmynameheckj: sure, that makes sense. did my email make sense on how to repro it? you only need concurrency of 2 to trigger it, but higher concurrency will make it show up more often19:37
heckjnotmyname: yep, was perfect - that's what I'm basically cobbling now - trying to see if I can wrangle it into a test mechanism for recurring testing19:38
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ayoungnotmyname, that does sound like a good long term solution19:40
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/keystone: normalize identity  https://review.openstack.org/1632219:49
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garykdanwent: ping19:52
danwentgaryk: i responded on private chat channel already :)19:53
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danwentgaryk: did you get those messages? or i can repaste19:53
garykdanwent: i just sa them now. thanks19:53
zykes-private chan ? ;p *os secret societies*19:53
zykes-;p19:53
danwentzykes-: direct chat19:54
heckjbcwaldon: around?19:55
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zykes-hehe ;p19:56
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mtreinishvishy: do you have any ideas with what's going on with: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1079687 sdague asked me to take a look at it, but said that you might be working on it already.20:02
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1079687 in nova "Flaky failures of instances to reach BUILD and ACTIVE states" [Undecided,New]20:02
mtreinishor at least have an idea as to what's causing it20:02
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vishythe logs seem to show an issue where a delete happens before the spawn is finished20:03
vishyraising an exception and putting the instance into error state20:03
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nati_uenoarosen: pong20:06
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mtreinishvishy: ok, so adding some code to ensure that the spawn is done before deletes should fix it then?20:06
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hub_caphey, i want to consume the openstack common oslo stuff in reddwarf. Is that still a copy-pasta job into my codebase? im not exactly up to speed w/ whats changed in teh name change to oslo20:07
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vishymtreinish: no I think we should change the set instance fault code to check to see if the instance has been deleted20:09
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vishymtreinish: and make sure that it doesn't come back from the dead if so20:10
vishymtreinish: keep in mind this is just a theory20:10
vishysomething else could be going wrong20:10
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mtreinishvishy: ok then, I can run with this approach if you want me to. (Lots of code reading todo...)20:13
vishymtreinish: yeah, you might want to spend some time looking through the logs on the failed runs as well20:14
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clarkbhub_cap: yes, I believe it is still a copy paste using the old mechanism20:20
clarkbyou have a conf files with the modules you want and the destination dir and run the script to do it for you20:20
hub_capclarkb: ya i found the wiki article (http://wiki.openstack.org/Oslo) seems exactly the same20:20
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/nova: Cells: Re-add DB model and calls  https://review.openstack.org/1523820:22
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/nova: Respect the base_dir_name flag in imagebackend.  https://review.openstack.org/1695420:22
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/nova: Add exceptions to baremetal/db/api  https://review.openstack.org/1660720:23
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nati_ueno_2ping amotoki20:32
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vishyzul: thanks for the help. Still a few more @ https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:stable/folsom,n,z20:33
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hub_caphas anyone successfully run the oslo update.py script recently?20:46
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clarkbhub_cap: iirc pabelanger ran into trouble too20:49
hub_capkk, i think its just plain mucked up based on what im seein in the code, ill ping markmc?? to see if he has seen issues20:50
hub_capthx clarkb20:50
wooreamordred: can you create a repo in stackforge for the python-billingstackclient?20:50
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markmchub_cap, update.py?20:50
hub_capyar20:50
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zykes-woorea: hi20:51
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markmchub_cap, https://review.openstack.org/1638920:51
hub_capmarkmc: https://github.com/openstack/oslo-incubator/blob/master/update.py20:51
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hub_capmarkmc: Hollah!! sweet20:51
wooreazykes-: hi!20:51
markmcrussellb, could you rubber stamp that one? https://review.openstack.org/1638920:51
pabelangerhub_cap, Ya, there is a new  review up to fix it20:51
markmcrussellb, people keep running into it20:52
hub_cap<3 guys20:52
russellbmarkmc: rubber stamped20:52
markmcrussellb, ta ta20:52
russellbwant me to just approve?20:52
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russellbmarkmc: or you can20:53
pabelangerrussellb, do et!20:53
markmcrussellb, well, it's actually my patch20:53
markmcrussellb, done20:54
wooreamordred: zykes- and we want to start a POC for the openstack billing20:54
clarkbwoorea: you can propose the change yourself20:54
russellbmarkmc: we can ignore that part ;)20:54
wooreaclarkb: steps?20:54
zykes-woorea: I can do that20:55
zykes-done it before :)20:55
clarkbwoorea: http://ci.openstack.org/gerrit.html#adding-new-projects20:55
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wooreaclarkb: thanks20:55
clarkbalso 6d7002d in openstack-ci-puppet is a commit that did it for a different project20:55
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wooreazykes-: to you as well20:55
hub_capmarkmc: jenkins hates u it appears20:57
markmchub_cap, jenkins hates us all equally20:57
hub_captru20:57
clarkbthats interesting20:57
markmcin this case though20:58
markmcit's mordred's fault20:58
markmchttp://logs.openstack.org/16389/2/gate/gate-oslo-incubator-pyflakes/1/console.html20:58
hub_caplooking all smug with his little napkin over his arm...oh that jenkins20:58
markmcthis needs to land first https://review.openstack.org/1667120:58
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clarkbmarkmc: do you just need something added to the commit message that explains the removal of sitepackage=true?20:59
clarkbI can amend the commit for mordred if that is the case21:00
markmcclarkb, I'll handle it, it just needs rebasing - another commit landed with sitepackages=True removed21:00
clarkbk21:00
* markmc needs to do the ptl thing on #openstack-meeting first21:00
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/cinder: Fix None being passed into as_int().  https://review.openstack.org/1698021:08
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/glance: Use 'notifications' as default notification queue name  https://review.openstack.org/1697521:08
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zulvishy: ping im nacking this one: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/16877/21:21
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vishyzul: yeah i saw that. Fine with me21:21
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sdaguedtroyer: you working on moving grenade into an openstack repo?21:24
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markmczul, is that a nak until after 2012.2.1 or total nak for stable/folsom?21:27
* markmc suspects the former, just checking21:27
zulmarkmc: stable/folsom21:27
markmczul, ok ... -2 seems more appropriate then21:28
zulchanging21:28
markmcthanks21:28
zulmarkmc: im not so sure about the no-db backport either21:29
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markmczul, yeah, was going to look at that in a bit too - punt at least until after 2012.2.1 I reckon21:30
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vishyzul, markmc: that is part of the one mentioned in my email. We should have big warnings about turning off the image cache cleanup on shared storage21:42
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vishyif we don't want to backport those21:42
markmcvishy, could you stick something in http://wiki.openstack.org/ReleaseNotes/2012.2.1 ?21:42
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adam_ghmm. not sure what the issue is yet, but i've just found the devstack euca.sh exercise no longer passes against stable/folsom for me. need to sleep for ~10 sec. before attempting to delete the created security group, otherwise it errors because its the group is in-use. same tests pass fine against non-stable folsom.21:48
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adam_gOSAPI/floating_ip.sh seems okay, tho21:50
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/nova: Add version to conductor migration_update message.  https://review.openstack.org/1699821:53
dprinceadam_g: I believe the EC2 API has checked to make sure security groups are in use for some time now... https://github.com/openstack/nova/commit/3dc539bcb0d9031f81076ac2e1870918400150ed21:54
dprinceadam_g: my guess is that something else is now faster... so you now hit this error in the euca tests.21:54
vishymarkmc: added to release notes for 12.2 and Folsom21:56
vishy* 12.2.121:56
dprinceadam_g: it also sounds like something might be missing in the euca tests too...21:57
adam_gdprince: or slower. :) also seeing some VolumeNotFound errors around the time of termination, which i dont remember seeing before: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1392907/21:57
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markmcvishy, thanks much21:58
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jgriffithadam_g: forgive me for coming in late, but...22:00
jgriffithadam_g: It seems it could find the volume ID at all (let alone the EC2 mapping)22:00
jgriffithadam_g: Any chance you can check the volumes table in the DB and verify that volume exists?22:01
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markmcclarkb, actually, how much of a pain would it be to disable the pyflakes job for now ?22:02
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clarkbmarkmc: not a huge pain22:02
markmcclarkb, 2 patches need to land for the job to pass, tests won't pass for either individually22:02
clarkbjust some time involved while the changes get applied22:03
markmcclarkb, and I don't want to squash them or even rush a +2a on them22:03
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markmcclarkb, ok, please go that route then22:03
clarkbmarkmc: ok, I will propose a change to stop gating on pyflakes for oslo22:03
markmcclarkb, thanks22:03
adam_gjgriffith: sure, just a sec.22:03
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clarkbmarkmc: https://review.openstack.org/1700822:06
markmcclarkb, cool, +1ed22:07
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adam_gjgriffith: the volumes exist/existed okay in the database. not sure why there are not found errors so late, tho (after the create/attach/detach/delete cycle)22:10
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adam_gjgriffith: something seems to left behind in the db after the volume has been detached and deleted. tho not fatal, a describe_instance on an instance that once had a volume attached will throw that error. (this is with nova-volume, btw)22:15
adam_goh, wait22:16
adam_gyes it is fatal22:16
adam_g~$ euca-describe-instances22:16
adam_gVolumeNotFound: Volume vol-0000000b could not be found.22:16
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markmcbcwaldon, eglynn_, locking down 2012.2.1 soon - consider whether you want this in https://review.openstack.org/1699622:25
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adam_gjgriffith: FYI seems isolated to nova-volume + RBD driver, no problem using local iSCSI. will give a try with cinder22:28
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jgriffithadam_g: suspect you'll have the same issue (assuming Folsom on both)22:29
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adam_gjgriffith: 90% sure im only hitting this when running from stable/folsom, though22:30
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jgriffithadam_g: Yep, I would assume that's the case.... looking at RBD bugs.22:31
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echoheadhi, is there anyone here who could approve me for the openstack-cla group?22:50
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eglynn_markmc: 16996 looks good for stable, I've just approved it22:55
markmceglynn_, thanks22:55
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/python-swiftclient: Stop loss of precision when writing 'x-object-meta-mtime'  https://review.openstack.org/1651322:57
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danwentmarkmcclain, amotoki, are you able to re-review + approve this patch? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/16907/  You both previously +2'd it.23:00
markmcclaindanwent: done23:01
danwentmarkmcclain: thx23:01
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markmcdanwent, hey, there?23:05
danwentmarkmc: hey23:06
markmcdanwent, looking at https://review.openstack.org/1622323:06
markmcdanwent, what's your take on the riskiness of it?23:06
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danwentmarkmc: obviously a non-trivial code change.  to be honest, i'm not familiar with the linux-bridge plugin, so i don't know how well this code is covered by unit tests.  As garyk points out, the linuxbridge plugin is not widely used.23:07
danwentits definitely not a bug fix23:08
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danwentits a better way of doing something, so I can see why you're not a big fan of it in stable.23:08
danwentI think its important to garyk, as there are red hat customers who can't use the OVS plugin.23:08
markmcdanwent, I think the argument is that using libvirt's "ethernet" nic type is a bug23:08
markmcdanwent, I wrote the code that enables IFF_VNET header on tap devices managed by libvirt, so I tend to agree :)23:09
danwentmarkmc: hehe, yeah, or at least its a design flaw.23:09
markmcdanwent, but it's a stretch23:09
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/quantum: Fixes order of route entries.  https://review.openstack.org/1690723:10
danwentmarkmc: i think the set of people at risk by this change is small, as it is well scoped ot the linux bridge plugin23:11
danwentmarkmc: and you could argue that this change is probably a good risk/reward trade-off for that set of people23:11
danwentmarkmc: so on a whole, i think it should go into stable (assuming the nova change does as well), but would not be upset if others disagreed.23:11
markmcdanwent, the set of people who'd benefit from the change is equally small :)23:11
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markmcdanwent, but point taken23:11
markmcdanwent, ok, fair enough23:12
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markmcdanwent, I think I'll trust your instinct, garyk's testing and the fact that a limited set of people will be screwed if it regresses23:12
danwentmarkmc: that seems like a reasonable approach, thanks23:12
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markmcdanwent, thanks for the input23:13
danwentmarkmc: thanks for all you work on stable :)23:13
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markmcdanwent, gary did a huge amount work on the quantum side :)23:13
danwentmarkmc: yes, garyk deserves a medal23:14
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adam_gmarkmc: FYI just filed https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1083818. testing once more on non-stable folsom to confirm 100% its regressed.23:15
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uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1083818 in nova "Detached and deleted RBD volumes remain associated with insance" [Undecided,New]23:15
markmcadam_g, thanks23:15
markmcadam_g, you're thinking this is a release blocking regression?23:15
markmcadam_g, any chance you can do a git-bisect to find the culprit ?23:15
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adam_gmarkmc: i'm not sure what consitutes a release blocker in this case, TBH. wouldn't have caught it if we didn't start regularly testing ceph/RBD this week. :)  the default iSCSI stuff still works okay23:18
markmcadam_g, ok, marked it as Critical and targeted it to 2012.2.123:18
adam_gmarkmc: ill see about getting a bisect going23:18
markmcadam_g, if we can't narrow it down to a specific commit causing the regression, then yeah we may have to re-think whether it's a blocker23:19
markmcadam_g, thanks23:19
markmcjdurgin, fyi, a ceph/rbd related regression on stable/folsom ... we're planning on doing a stable release on thursday ^^^23:19
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/oslo-incubator: Fixup update.py after argparse breakage  https://review.openstack.org/1638923:40
jdurginmarkmc: thanks, i'll look into it as well. if I can reproduce it I'll probably have a patch tomorrow23:41
markmcjdurgin, excellent, thanks23:41
markmcclarkb, interesting, pyflakes didn't run on that verify job ^^23:42
markmcclarkb, but is running on these check jobs: https://jenkins.openstack.org/zuul/status23:42
markmcclarkb, e.g. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/16789/23:42
clarkbmarkmc: correct I only remvoed it from the gate queue23:43
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markmcclarkb, ok23:43
clarkbI figured the info was still potentially useful, but we didn't want to actually gate on it. So I left it in the check queue23:43
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markmcclarkb, that's fine, thanks23:44
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markmcvishy, mikal, why aren't we just defaulting the image cache manager to off in 2012.2.1 ?23:49
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vishymarkmc: you could default it off if you want23:53
vishymarkmc: maybe that is an easier fix23:53
markmcvishy, we could reconsider the real fix for after 2012.2.1, but I'm thinking disabling it might be enough for the release23:54
vishymarkmc: sure thats fine23:54
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