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| jgriffith | any horizon folks around? | 00:17 |
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| jgriffith | keystoneclient rev change has the gates in a bit of a jam: http://logs.openstack.org/16001/3/check/gate-tempest-devstack-vm/18983/console.html | 00:18 |
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| * mordred blames heckj | 00:21 | |
| jeblair | actually... | 00:21 |
| jeblair | if i'm reading that right, it's downgrading to 0.1.3 because of (python-openstackclient?) | 00:21 |
| jeblair | it normally runs out of git, but because of this: | 00:22 |
| jeblair | 00:02:24 Downloading/unpacking python-keystoneclient>=0.1,<0.2 (from -r python_openstackclient.egg-info/requires.txt (line 8)) | 00:22 |
| jeblair | pip helpfully downgrades. | 00:22 |
| mordred | have I mentioned that the arbitrary ordering of installing pip requires in devstack due to project overlap is a bit of a dog? | 00:22 |
| jeblair | why is python-openstackclient being installed? | 00:22 |
| mordred | because | 00:22 |
| mordred | git_clone https://github.com/openstack/python-openstackclient.git /opt/stack/python-openstackclient master | 00:23 |
| jeblair | it's used in the gate but not gated itself. we should probably change that. anyway... | 00:24 |
| jeblair | this is the sort of thing the global dependency list is supposed to address | 00:25 |
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| mordred | indeed | 00:25 |
| mordred | but even the global dep list isn't intended to force all of the projects to upgrade their deps to match the global dep list at the same time | 00:25 |
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| mordred | this is kinda why I was suggesting that we wrap each of the installs in their own venv in devstack - because the way things install in devstack right now is not how people are thinking/designing that they should be done | 00:27 |
| mordred | the way it's done now, devstack itself has an enforced de-facto global dep list that is coordinated | 00:27 |
| jeblair | mordred: however, it is nonsensical for projects whose master trunks are tested together to specify lower versions than what are tested. | 00:27 |
| jeblair | mordred: i don't think that's correct behavior, then you will not be testing the projects together. | 00:28 |
| clarkb | ++ | 00:28 |
| mordred | jeblair: we have not identified to coordinate a library dep upgrade across projects simulataneously | 00:28 |
| mordred | and I do think you will be testing the projects together | 00:28 |
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| jeblair | mordred: parse error | 00:28 |
| mordred | I believe you will be testing that an install of master nova works with an install of master glance | 00:28 |
| jeblair | mordred: what you are suggesting does not solve what just happened | 00:29 |
| mordred | no? | 00:29 |
| clarkb | mordred: we would be testing the interactions with the projects assuming they will all be installed in venvs or on different systems | 00:29 |
| mordred | clarkb: yes. because you know what - in a real world scenario they _WILL_ be installed on different systems | 00:29 |
| jeblair | mordred: what just happened is that the release of keystone caused a _downgrade_ of the keystone used by openstackclient | 00:29 |
| jeblair | mordred: we're not testing real-world production release deploys, we're testing the tip of master | 00:29 |
| mordred | right | 00:30 |
| mordred | but the thing we want to test is that the services work together | 00:30 |
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| mordred | not that the services dependency lists are compatible at the moment | 00:30 |
| mordred | that's a thing that the distros care about | 00:30 |
| mordred | on a per-commit middle-of-dev-cycle basis it is not a thing that we have decided that we as a project care about | 00:30 |
| jeblair | mordred: the key issue is that we're not talking about an external dependency, we're talking about an internal one... | 00:31 |
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| mordred | in fact, the projects have explicitly asked that they be able to upgrade to new versions of dependent libraries on different cadences during the dev cycle | 00:31 |
| jeblair | mordred: horizon DOES work with keystoneclient master, and it specifically should. that's the opposite of what you just said. | 00:31 |
| jeblair | the project has explicitly decided that all of the component project should always work together. | 00:32 |
| jeblair | that's why we made the devstack gate. they didn't use to. | 00:32 |
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| jeblair | the problem isn't that horizon and keystoneclient don't work together because of release cadence -- they do! the problem is that pip downgraded it because the version of keystoneclient installed was higher than openstackclient specified. | 00:33 |
| mordred | right | 00:33 |
| jeblair | and openstackclient is wrong, because it also was being tested with the latest master. | 00:33 |
| mordred | because openstackclient lists pip requirements in its pip-requires | 00:33 |
| mordred | which is not taken in to account when we have also installed those requirements via git | 00:34 |
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| mordred | unless you're saying that we should just pop in a change to openstackclient that removes the <2.0 | 00:35 |
| mordred | (although, honestly, why is openstackclient in the gate at all?) | 00:35 |
| jeblair | i believe that is the solution. | 00:35 |
| jeblair | and that was the question i lead with. :) | 00:35 |
| mordred | I'd say fix #1 is remove openstackclient from the gate | 00:35 |
| jeblair | you mean from devstack, i suppose? | 00:36 |
| mordred | I do, actually | 00:36 |
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| jeblair | https://review.openstack.org/16352 | 00:38 |
| jeblair | of course, it's not part of the gate, so we won't know if that fixes it. | 00:39 |
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| jeblair | morded: https://review.openstack.org/16353 | 00:41 |
| jeblair | (we will be able to see if that fixes it, though) | 00:42 |
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| jeblair | mordred: i think the general principal is this: master branches should not specify upper bound dependencies of other openstack projects | 00:43 |
| jeblair | mordred: stable/ branches can be changed to specify the versions of openstack projects in the stable/ branches | 00:44 |
| jeblair | mordred: (as long as it's in such a way as they don't get downgraded if you setup.py install two on the same host) | 00:45 |
| jgriffith | jeblair: +1 | 00:45 |
| mordred | ++ | 00:46 |
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| jeblair | mordred: https://review.openstack.org/16354 | 00:49 |
| jeblair | having said that, i'm not sure how you cut a release of glanceclient with an upper bound. the milestone-proposed process accounts for this, but not the 'just tag master' process. | 00:50 |
| mordred | yeah. me neither | 00:50 |
| jeblair | an alternative is that we stop gating the client libs, and just treat them as external dependencies. then what gets tested is specified by version bumps of the server projects. but then they can't evolve together as quickly. | 00:52 |
| jeblair | the client libs could have a release-stabilization branch where versions can be pinned before release... | 00:53 |
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| jeblair | mordred: i believe these changes will need to be merged in this order: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/16352/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/16354/ | 00:56 |
| jeblair | mordred: and optionally: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/16353/ | 00:56 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/python-glanceclient: Unpin keystoneclient dependency https://review.openstack.org/16350 | 00:57 |
| jeblair | vishy beat me too it. :) | 00:57 |
| vishy | that needs to be pushed to pypi right? | 00:58 |
| jeblair | vishy: not to fix the gate | 00:58 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/nova: Added sample tests to consoles API. https://review.openstack.org/15876 | 11:05 |
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| zykes- | dripton: around ? :) | 11:25 |
| zykes- | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/15196/1 < why wasn't that merged ? | 11:25 |
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| Madkiss | hmmmmmm | 11:50 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/nova: Use disk image path to setup lxc container https://review.openstack.org/16165 | 12:19 |
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| dingus9 | hey what's a typical turn around time for having my CLA approved? | 15:19 |
| dansmith | dingus9: about 30 days | 15:21 |
| dingus9 | dansmith: realy? | 15:21 |
| dansmith | (joking) | 15:21 |
| dansmith | no, not really :) | 15:21 |
| dingus9 | oh hehe | 15:21 |
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| dansmith | dingus9: usually a few working days, I'd say | 15:22 |
| dingus9 | I was like guess I should just chuck the changes I made last night | 15:22 |
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| dingus9 | lol it took me for ever to just get through all the sign up stuff… I was like just let me commit dang it | 15:23 |
| dansmith | :) | 15:23 |
| dingus9 | I guess it helps to also join the groups they tell me too hmmm | 15:26 |
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| dingus9 | cool just added my signed CLA to the appropriate wiki page, and sent a group join request that should help things along a wee bit | 15:46 |
| dingus9 | hey dansmith what would be considered a feature? | 15:47 |
| dingus9 | I added a flag for ssh —extra-opts… to pass additional opts to ssh, would that be a full feature, it's only a few lines to add an additional parameter and handling of it | 15:50 |
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| Kiall | dingus9, sounds like a feature to me.. I assume you need the extra opts to make something work right though? Which could be enough to consider it a bug fix and allow backport to the stable branch | 15:58 |
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| dingus9 | ooh | 16:06 |
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| dingus9 | Kiall: yeah I just needed to be able to do command execution and ssh masterconnection sharing | 16:07 |
| dingus9 | that allows easy scp and other commands through the control files | 16:08 |
| dingus9 | Basically I just added a single opt "—extra-opts" to the ssh command in nova client | 16:08 |
| dingus9 | personally I think it's worth a fast track, because it allows one to actually use ssh | 16:09 |
| Kiall | Oh - I'm pretty sure new features are allowed in the client libraries between releases.. | 16:09 |
| Kiall | The client libs are on a different release schedule than the server side components | 16:09 |
| dingus9 | Good, I wasn't thinking it would be a show stopper | 16:10 |
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| dingus9 | one cool thing I discovered is, once you have an ssh master control file, you don't have to re-specify the correct host info… just point ssh or scp to the control file… They use it regardless… So it makes it really easy to support the entire ssh stack with one call through nova ssh | 16:11 |
| dingus9 | heh this all started because I wanted to use my key deploy script to deploy to nova controlled resources… without doing too much grepping what not | 16:14 |
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| mordred | dingus9: yeah - sorry for the pain it is to get the CLA done - we're _actively_ working on fixing that | 16:36 |
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| dingus9 | mordred: ;) Thanks for being awesome though… it actually feels like people here want contributions so that's awesome | 16:37 |
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| Madkiss | hmm. My OpenStack VMs sometimes don't get an ip address via dhcp, and sometimes they do | 19:05 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/quantum: Use DB count to get resource counts. https://review.openstack.org/15747 | 19:57 |
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| woprandi | hi everybody | 20:23 |
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| EmilienM | Madkiss: using Quantum? | 21:27 |
| EmilienM | Madkiss: if yes, and if you run L3 & DHCP quantum agents on same node, you should enable namespace | 21:28 |
| EmilienM | that can be the solution at your issue | 21:28 |
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| zykes- | EmilienM: ! | 21:35 |
| zykes- | hoii frenchie | 21:35 |
| zykes- | long time ago seeing you here :) | 21:35 |
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| EmilienM | zykes-: I'm here 24/7 | 21:35 |
| zykes- | no you ain't :p | 21:35 |
| zykes- | EmilienM: wanna skypE ? | 21:36 |
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| zykes- | hah | 21:40 |
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| andrewbogott | If there are any python-openstackclient people online, can someone confirm that this is still roughly how to write a command? http://fpaste.org/SgTu/ (I want to make sure the state-of-the-art hasn't utterly changed since I last looked at this) | 22:19 |
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